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 Author Thread: Is chivalry dead?
 pelandor
Joined: 8/27/2006
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Is chivalry dead?
Posted: 1/18/2007 9:42:50 PM
Chivalry? OH YEAH ITS DEAD! Who killed it? Well women had a huge role to play in it. The murder of chivalry was commited in the 90's. It was killed off during the highschool years where all the girls dated the bad ass's but always kept the good boys only around so that they could complain to the good boys about the jerks they date. If a noble and honorable teen were to express their feeling to such a girl, three things would happen. She would laugh, saying how corny he was, she would say they were just friends and she didnt want to lose that friendship, and she ultimately refuse him. This sort of behaviour show that the girl does not even value him as an equal, but rather he was there to service her emotional needs, not the physical, and if the boy were to complain about how lonely he was, she would definitely not reciprocat the emotional support, for she would see him as weak, not want to date him, she would talk to her girl friends and the word would spread because we all know how much girls can talk. Enough rejections, and most guys soon began to notice that the jerks who only cared for themselves were the one getting all the affections from the other women these nice boys desired. Result, the nice boys soon copied the same behaviours they noticed from the other guys, and as a result, they would start to have dates and sex and so on. Fast forward a few years later, and now all the women ask where are the nice guys? What ever happen to john? He used to be such a nice guy. I guesse its true, you reap what you sow. The truth is nice guys were never truly appreciated for what they offered to a woman, because women knew they would get that any way without having to do anything in return, including being a real friend. A girl does not have to say yes to a nice guy, there are other ways to handle rejecting him, and when he is heart broken maybe you can actually help him. BUt that was not how it was done nor is it how it is done now. Human kind is a species that evolves, and as women evolves to becoming more dominate and more powerful in todays world in attempting to achieve equality. SO has man in the world of mating. Is this a bad thing or good thing, I honestly cannot say, but women, if you are to ask where are all the good men, time you begin to understand what the reprocussions are for your actions.

Now I know there is always the exception to the rule, so I am just speaking out in general here when looking at the mass, media (which is not the cause of public opinion, but rather a reflection of the public opinion), and from life experiences from plenty of people on all sides of the mating game.
 pelandor
Joined: 8/27/2006
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Is Chivalry dead and buried?
Posted: 1/18/2007 9:41:36 PM
Chivalry? OH YEAH ITS DEAD! Who killed it? Well women had a huge role to play in it. The murder of chivalry was commited in the 90's. It was killed off during the highschool years where all the girls dated the bad ass's but always kept the good boys only around so that they could complain to the good boys about the jerks they date. If a noble and honorable teen were to express their feeling to such a girl, three things would happen. She would laugh, saying how corny he was, she would say they were just friends and she didnt want to lose that friendship, and she ultimately refuse him. This sort of behaviour show that the girl does not even value him as an equal, but rather he was there to service her emotional needs, not the physical, and if the boy were to complain about how lonely he was, she would definitely not reciprocat the emotional support, for she would see him as weak, not want to date him, she would talk to her girl friends and the word would spread because we all know how much girls can talk. Enough rejections, and most guys soon began to notice that the jerks who only cared for themselves were the one getting all the affections from the other women these nice boys desired. Result, the nice boys soon copied the same behaviours they noticed from the other guys, and as a result, they would start to have dates and sex and so on. Fast forward a few years later, and now all the women ask where are the nice guys? What ever happen to john? He used to be such a nice guy. I guesse its true, you reap what you sow. The truth is nice guys were never truly appreciated for what they offered to a woman, because women knew they would get that any way without having to do anything in return, including being a real friend. A girl does not have to say yes to a nice guy, there are other ways to handle rejecting him, and when he is heart broken maybe you can actually help him. BUt that was not how it was done nor is it how it is done now. Human kind is a species that evolves, and as women evolves to becoming more dominate and more powerful in todays world in attempting to achieve equality. SO has man in the world of mating. Is this a bad thing or good thing, I honestly cannot say, but women, if you are to ask where are all the good men, time you begin to understand what the reprocussions are for your actions.

Now I know there is always the exception to the rule, so I am just speaking out in general here when looking at the mass, media (which is not the cause of public opinion, but rather a reflection of the public opinion), and from life experiences from plenty of people on all sides of the mating game.
 pelandor
Joined: 8/27/2006
Msg: 226 (view)
 
did women kill chivalry? what do we need to do to bring it back?
Posted: 1/18/2007 9:38:43 PM
Chivalry? OH YEAH ITS DEAD! Who killed it? Well women had a huge role to play in it. The murder of chivalry was commited in the 90's. It was killed off during the highschool years where all the girls dated the bad ass's but always kept the good boys only around so that they could complain to the good boys about the jerks they date. If a noble and honorable teen were to express their feeling to such a girl, three things would happen. She would laugh, saying how corny he was, she would say they were just friends and she didnt want to lose that friendship, and she ultimately refuse him. This sort of behaviour show that the girl does not even value him as an equal, but rather he was there to service her emotional needs, not the physical, and if the boy were to complain about how lonely he was, she would definitely not reciprocat the emotional support, for she would see him as weak, not want to date him, she would talk to her girl friends and the word would spread because we all know how much girls can talk. Enough rejections, and most guys soon began to notice that the jerks who only cared for themselves were the one getting all the affections from the other women these nice boys desired. Result, the nice boys soon copied the same behaviours they noticed from the other guys, and as a result, they would start to have dates and sex and so on. Fast forward a few years later, and now all the women ask where are the nice guys? What ever happen to john? He used to be such a nice guy. I guesse its true, you reap what you sow. The truth is nice guys were never truly appreciated for what they offered to a woman, because women knew they would get that any way without having to do anything in return, including being a real friend. A girl does not have to say yes to a nice guy, there are other ways to handle rejecting him, and when he is heart broken maybe you can actually help him. BUt that was not how it was done nor is it how it is done now. Human kind is a species that evolves, and as women evolves to becoming more dominate and more powerful in todays world in attempting to achieve equality. SO has man in the world of mating. Is this a bad thing or good thing, I honestly cannot say, but women, if you are to ask where are all the good men, time you begin to understand what the reprocussions are for your actions.

Now I know there is always the exception to the rule, so I am just speaking out in general here when looking at the mass, media (which is not the cause of public opinion, but rather a reflection of the public opinion), and from life experiences from plenty of people on all sides of the mating game.
 pelandor
Joined: 8/27/2006
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Chivalry,,,is it really dead?
Posted: 1/18/2007 9:31:38 PM
Chivalry? OH YEAH ITS DEAD! It was killed off in the 90's. It was killed off during the highschool years where all the girls dated the bad ass's but always kept the good boys only around so that they could complain to the good boys about the jerks they date. If a noble and honorable teen were to express their feeling to such a girl, three things would happen. She would laugh, saying how corny he was, she would say they were just friends and she didnt want to lose that friendship, and she ultimately refuse him. This sort of behaviour show that the girl does not even value him as an equal, but rather he was there to service her emotional needs, not the physical, and if the boy were to complain about how lonely he was, she would definitely not reciprocat the emotional support, for she would see him as weak, not want to date him, she would talk to her girl friends and the word would spread because we all know how much girls can talk. Enough rejections, and most guys soon began to notice that the jerks who only cared for themselves were the one getting all the affections from the other women these nice boys desired. Result, the nice boys soon copied the same behaviours they noticed from the other guys, and as a result, they would start to have dates and sex and so on. Fast forward a few years later, and now all the women ask where are the nice guys? What ever happen to john? He used to be such a nice guy. I guesse its true, you reap what you sow. The truth is nice guys were never truly appreciated for what they offered to a woman, because women knew they would get that any way without having to do anything in return, including being a real friend. A girl does not have to say yes to a nice guy, there are other ways to handle rejecting him, and when he is heart broken maybe you can actually help him. BUt that was not how it was done nor is it how it is done now. Human kind is a species that evolves, and as women evolves to becoming more dominate and more powerful in todays world in attempting to achieve equality. SO has man in the world of mating. Is this a bad thing or good thing, I honestly cannot say, but women, if you are to ask where are all the good men, time you begin to understand what the reprocussions are for your actions.

Now I know there is always the exception to the rule, so I am just speaking out in general here when looking at the mass, media (which is not the cause of public opinion, but rather a reflection of the public opinion), and from life experiences from plenty of people on all sides of the mating game.
 pelandor
Joined: 8/27/2006
Msg: 129 (view)
 
What ever happened to committment and chivalry?
Posted: 1/17/2007 6:59:50 PM
I dont know about committment, may be dead because we have become a society of where we want more and more. So a man or woman would like to have as much good freedom living sex as possible before settling down to one they love. Wether this is a good thing or not, i dont know.

Chivalry? OH YEAH ITS DEAD! It was killed off in the 90's. It was killed off during the highschool years where all the girls dated the bad ass's but always kept the good boys only around so that they could complain to the good boys about the jerks they date. If a noble and honorable teen were to express their feeling to such a girl, three things would happen. She would laugh, saying how corny her was, she would say they were just friends and she didnt want to lose that friendship, and she ultimately refuse him. This sort of behaviour show that the girl does not even value him as an equal, but rather he was there to service her emotional needs, not the physical, and if the boy were to complain about how lonely he was, she would definitely not reciprocat the emotional support, for she would see him as weak, not want to date him, she would talk to her girl friends and the word would spread because we all know how much girls can talk. Enough rejections, and most guys soon began to notice that the jerks who only cared for themselves were the one getting all the affections from the other women these nice boys desired. Result, the nice boys soon copied the same behaviours they noticed from the other guys, and as a result, they would start to have dates and sex and so on. Fast forward a few years later, and now all the women ask where are the nice guys? What ever happen to john? He used to be such a nice guy. I guesse its true, you reap what you sow. The truth is nice guys were never truly appreciated for what they offered to a woman, because women knew they would get that any way without having to do anything in return, including being a real friend. A girl does not have to say yes to a nice guy, there are other ways to handle rejecting him, and when he is heart broken maybe you can actually help him. BUt that was not how it was done nor is it how it is done now. Human kind is a species that evolves, and as women evolves to becoming more dominate and more powerful in todays world in attempting to achieve equality. SO has man in the world of mating. Is this a bad thing or good thing, I honestly cannot say, but women, if you are to ask where are all the good men, time you begin to understand what the reprocussions are for your actions.
 
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