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Thread: Men over 50 wanting children
JurgenH
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Men over 50 wanting children
Posted:
2/19/2008 10:07:12 PM
Why not?
This is the 21st century after all.
Life expectancies being what they are, 50 ain't 'Old'. Fathering (or mothering for that matter...current reproductive limits aside) , at, say, 70 might raise some eyebrows-- though hardly unprecedented -- but again, why not? It could be (re)invigorating! Might not be a bad thing for the brood either. Parenting is not about being able to play touch football in one's Golden Years. And how many 30-something Hockey/Soccer Dads/Moms actually play the games anyways, nevermind with their children? Too busy establishing Careers...
JurgenH
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Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted:
2/3/2007 9:08:48 PM
MSG 204:
...similar people with this personality type include...Jesus.
Tell me Jesus took the test too!! lol
and
MSG 220:
Jesus took the Myers-Briggs? I didn't even know they had it way back then!
INRI?
JurgenH
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Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted:
2/3/2007 10:31:24 AM
INFJ - same as gandhi and mother teresa. when i was really young and i took it, it came up INFJ/INTJ split.
As Myers published 'Introduction to Type' in 1962 and Gandhi (Mahatma anyways) died in 1948, I wonder who administered the test?
JurgenH
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Personality Typing, what do you think of it?
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1/28/2007 1:10:06 AM
In so far as they precipitate discussion and debate, personality tests [e.g. MBTI ] can be harmless fun: Parlor game stuff. Astrology too. But as a tool for understanding? Or guide for action in the world?
Don't see any reason why those test results 'expertly' analyzed would be any better or a more virtuous basis for choosing a life partner than looks/sexual attraction, financial status, or religion [compare msg. 6].
Like the OP, I too am " shocked to find out many companies are now getting you to take a personality test while applying for jobs". It's amazing the truck that HR departments give to this stuff...gussied up as 'management (psuedo)science'. However, I think she's too generous (as are most of the posters [but not msg 15]) in granting merit to these ideas. I don't buy the notion of pigeon-holing people into Archetypes, reconciling with a 'True Self' (whatever that is...). Little is said about volition and moral choice. Instead actions are anchored vis a vis poles (e.g. Thinking vs. Feeling).
Situationally, I can be both! And besides, who says one can't be fully Thinking AND Feeling? Why are these arranged as opposites, like children on a see-saw?
Because Carl Jung said so?
Prefer the following (www.fordham.edu/philosophy/davenport/texts/jungmyer):
"If we think of personality, as moral philosophers often have, as constituted largely by a sense of what is good, life-unifying goals, intrinsic values, and lasting commitments --dispositions that occur on the level of inward volition and thus have to do only indirectly with immediate behavior style-- then type-dimensions such as extraversion-vs-intraversion may seem to have little to do with what sort of person someone is. Instead, they seem to be fundamentally behavioral categories. Since personality does not coincide with behavior patterns but with their structure of reasons and deeper motivational sources, classifying people on the E scale seems analogous to classifying cars by their paint job rather than by their chassis or engine design. ".
Also (re: msg. 14): I'm appalled at the OP's characterization (dare I say typology!) of what 'schools' (archetypically?) do or countenance. I have no idea of what a de-conceptualized 'knowledge base' would be... and outside of a spelling bee I can't see how anybody [ENTP, ENFP, WXYZ...] could learn anything without some abstract notion involved ('conceptual wrapper' if you like). Is there a single text-book (let's take history) used in a North American high-school today that doesn't explicitly couch its contents within some broader framework of understanding?
JurgenH
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Is Sarcasm Funny?
Posted:
12/8/2006 10:50:45 AM
Ahaha, you chose to disclaim your anti-sarcasm sentiment as sarcasm.
Ironically, I wonder how many people thought mine was serious because I didn't.
Which raises the hoary issue of Irony (gentler...more subtle ..."wit" ) vs. Sarcasm (intent to wound... "****y" [can't thwart the Censors...read as 'female dog']).
I've always found the Brits to be Masters of Irony, whereas the Yanks -- and I'll throw the Canadians in there (sarcastically) -- traffic more in Sarcasm.
Love them Both! (ironically... ;) )
JurgenH
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Traits of a gentleman
Posted:
12/3/2006 2:17:27 PM
Great Expectations still explains it best. Pip was sent away to become a gentleman, and wore fine clothes and practised perfect etiquette, but Joe Gargery was the true gentleman of the story, despite his manners and rough edges and lack of education, because he had a fine, gentle heart that meant he was instinctively respectful of everyone, and also caring, protective and forgiving to those he loved.
Nobody wants an Empty Suit. But don't ignore a sartorial Prime Directive: Namely, be well-heeled. And the
backs
of your shoes be polished too!
[Kitchen-table wisdom handed down from my Grandfather -- a Stoic having more in common with Gargery than Pip].
JurgenH
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Bill Maher - opinions? Thoughts?
Posted:
12/1/2006 1:27:13 PM
Better question.
Is Bill Maher intelligent enough to engage in politically commentary?
Answer:
nnnnnnnnnNOPE.
Different. Better?
Comrades: Difficult to find (to my mind at least...perhaps in the company of myself) a punchier , 'funny' -- I use the term advisedly, knowing full well that the Revolution shall be a humourless affair -- critic of the cultural/political status quo.
Perhaps the stuff for another thread...but who does it Better?
I like Bill Maher, too bad he isn't funnier.
Will Rogers did it better.
Agree that Will Rogers was a Master. Notwithstanding the undertaker doing a bang-up job, it'll be difficult to get his make-up right under those studio lights.
Even Lenin's looking a bit down in the mouth these days...
JurgenH
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Bill Maher - opinions? Thoughts?
Posted:
12/1/2006 11:11:15 AM
I prefer Noam Chomsky
For his comedy?
Seen Noam. Reasonable speaker. Penetrating analyses, for sure...
But not that Funny! :)
JurgenH
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why should we worry about politics?
Posted:
11/30/2006 10:43:31 AM
Damn button pressed itself twice... :)
Also correction: Napoleaon Chagnon.
JurgenH
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why should we worry about politics?
Posted:
11/30/2006 10:40:31 AM
When I wish upon a star...
if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything
I was speaking, of course, in regard to the goings-on of Politicians. As you seem to have retreated into the Politics of the Personal,I'm not sure what you're getting at.
cultural anthropologists also know there was a time, before religions and nations, when societies were more into 'partnership', when both genders had input into decision making... when decisions were made in respect of all life on the planet...
'There was a time...'. When?
Don't kid yourself about non-state societies...that everybody is singing and dancing and holding hands all the time. In 'Hunter-gatherer' communities people kill animals (and other people). Elders beyond their productive years, or hindering movement between camps, are literally abandoned (to die). Sorcery is practised. And if you're labelled a Witch...your dead. You need to read some ethnographies [ Napolean Chagnon's 'The Fierce People' might be a good start. Or Ray Kelly's 'Constructing Inequality' based on fieldwork among the Etoro in New Guinea] as a counter-balance to the sweeping 'if I wish upon a star' generalizations of the Macro Cultural Historians (a la Eisler). Or take a course in field-work based Anthropology. These people ('primitives', 'small-scale', 'aboriginal', '4th World'... call them what you will ) are flesh and blood like us. Same dilemmas, differently expressed.
i also do see a return to more 'natural' ways in other people around me and especially in the youth... dialogue about doing things 'differently'... the 'working centre' in town here now has an organic garden that supplies their 'organic' queen street 'commons'...restaurant and so much more... where there are also books and lectures available on alternate energy sources, organic gardening, voluntary poverty, bartering, etc... shop for locally produced products made from natural or vintage materials...
The Queen Street (be they East or West...invoking Toronto here, maybe different in Kitchener) Hipsters engaged in high-priced organics and barter systems --aka tax evasion, denying state funded social services the means to sustain themselves-- are not my guiding lights. Speaking personally, of course.
An interesting local model for sustainability would be the Amish. But I doubt that most urban youth could handle 10 minutes of the discipline required to be a functioning member of such Community. And boy are they good business people!
Choose to live anyway you want. Arguably, this is easier to do ( 'worry-free', politically speaking) within a Liberal-Democratic Capitalist Welfare State than it is -- or was --in the Kalahari.
JurgenH
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Bill Maher - opinions? Thoughts?
Posted:
11/29/2006 6:31:55 PM
Maher on Mark Foley scandal [CNN's 'Situation Room' interview, for instance].
God, he pushed the envelope. Did make over-light of a gross abuse of power.
Having said that...I still fell off my chair with a belly laugh!
JurgenH
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why should we worry about politics?
Posted:
11/29/2006 5:53:32 PM
Supporting evidence for the possibilities of Earth Community comes from the findings of quantum physics, evolutionary biology, developmental psychology, anthropology, archaeology, and religious mysticism. It was the human way before Empire; we must make a choice to re-learn how to live by its principles.
I would be wary of a Politics based on an imagined Golden Age or some roseate conception of The Primitive. While we hardly live in the best of all possible worlds, arguably it ain't so bad ('world-historically' speaking). Hobbes didn't get it right when he talked in terms of pre-state societies as 'nasty, brutish, and short'. But nor was the 'Savage' wholly 'Noble' (in the Rousseaunian sense).
Cultural anthropologists know full well that politics in small-scale 'non-state' groupings (Ethnic, Lingeages, Tribes, etc. ) are rarely the equivalents of a Church Social or an old-fashioned Town Hall Meeting (commonly understood). And there's much historical and cultural precedent for politics morphing into something else, deadly, in non-state societies too. Remember von Clausewitz: "War is nothing more than the continuation of politics by other means.” That notion ain't modern. The mere (and accidental) killing of somebody else's pig in some Highland New Guinea societies could invoke a chain of violent events that would make the typical North American city-dweller -- in a rough n' ready neighbourhood even -- quake in her boots.
I rather prefer that Politics play out as Theater (as one pundit characterized the shenanigans of modern parlimentarians). Full of Sound of Fury....
It's when they get Serious and Stand For Something that I get Nervous.
Just be careful what you wish for...
Peace :)
JurgenH
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What is wrong with people?????
Posted:
11/20/2006 8:18:19 PM
The only thing that the dogs ever killed was a possum and a snake. I agree that when innocent people get hurt, it is tragic. That, however, was not the case with these dogs. None of them have ever hurt anyone. It is funny how dogs can be like people. The other dogs still run free and they go to the spot where Sunny was killed and lie down and whine where her body was found. Even they miss her.
And
I have a picture of Sunny sitting on my desk as well as a poem that one of the people who responded to my forum wrote to me as coming directly from Sunny. I am so thankful to that person (you know who you are). I printed it out and put her picture right beside it. When I start feeling like I am going to cry again, I look up and see her and that poem and it makes me smile. I still cry, but at least I am smiling and remembering her the way she was, a very happy dog.
I sympathize with the OP's loss. However, before we elevate Sunny to Sainthood could we please have a moment of silence for the Possum and the Snake!
JurgenH
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Do You Men Read Our Whole Profiles?
Posted:
11/20/2006 2:15:49 PM
Aye, Arri: Spot on Rearguard! With a few notable, recent exceptions (sorry chaps, OHMSS eyes only...).
File this one, Moneypenny.
JurgenH
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TORONTO SINGLES PARTY - NOV 18 - YONGE & BLOOR
Posted:
11/13/2006 7:47:33 PM
Re Door Prize: May I suggest it go to the person with highest # of deleted Forum posts.
BTW: My iPod is on the fritz :).
Lookin' forward to shakin' a leg!
JH
JurgenH
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Verbal Abusers are Marxists
Posted:
11/10/2006 10:35:28 PM
And to think I was planning to go the Cinema tonite!
I can't seem to shake the Cultural/Historical Materialism (Marvin Harris inspired). Overwhelms my paradigms and analogies. Language given too short-shrift? (but cf.Rdr121)
Funny,eh, how a straight-laced (Lapsed) Catholic and a Lover of Weed (and UFC? --among other things! :)) get tossed into the same boat.
We ('hNation'...perhaps yourself?) come at the problem differently. I suspect we share the Prescription:
Love, Friendship, Forgiveness (in no particular order).
Cheers,
JH
JurgenH
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Verbal Abusers
Posted:
11/10/2006 7:32:11 PM
The men who are talking about forgivness are probably abusers themselves!!
I'll forgive that libelous statement, miss_Claudia.
To hippieNation:
How often is one shark the “victim” of another shark? In those cases would it be too much of a stretch to call one shark berserk – i.e. insane – and the other simply the unfortunate victim of circumstances, not malice or evil.
In respect of my Shark-Victim analogy...I was thinking less in terms of two Sharks going at it than the gobbling of the innocent swimmer. Perhaps we come from different philosophical Traditions:My commments were directed at broader power relations -- beyond the verbal, or philosophy even.
As for the Amish...well... those good people of Lancaster County might be on to something (recent actions having therapeutic effect, if not having engaged 'Therapy' modernly understood ) that all of us --Academics or not --can grasp. I can think of no more poignant expression of the Power of Forgiveness than theirs.
As someone who lists philosophy as one of their interests you may appreciate reading Epictetus, specifically, the Enchiridion:
http://home.nvg.org/~aga/stories/enchiridion.html
I'm rusty on my Ancients. I appreciate the reference.
BTW: I salute Rdr121.
JH
JurgenH
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Verbal Abusers
Posted:
11/10/2006 5:05:01 PM
Which "Place"? [The quote marks are indeed at the crux] Which Steps? Whose Path?
JurgenH
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Verbal Abusers
Posted:
11/10/2006 3:16:27 PM
Emotions and feelings are something that we decide to experience, they are games we play with each other as mammals. They are optional. It's often when we decide that these games mean something more that we go insane - manifesting in anger, depression, and fear. We have no need of them, they serve only to hinder us.
My only reservation with the gaming analogy [Homo Ludens?] is that the seas may be fraught with uneven dangers, no fault of one's own. The Shark and its Victim are, I suppose, caught in a macabre pas de deux...only one is doing the eating!
Yet, as a strategy for personal liberation, I unequivocally concur with hippieNation on the Power of Forgiveness.
Those on this thread who are so quick to dismiss him would do well to consider 'The Amish Model' rather than trotting out the platitudes of so much 'Professional Therapy'.
Peace, indeed.
JH
JurgenH
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Can women really cast spells??
Posted:
10/31/2006 10:56:03 PM
^^^^
No, I'm afraid I'm not related to anybody by that name. Though I'd be proud to count the Antarctic Explorer among my kith or kin.
My point stands: Warlocks -- and I beg to differ on the etymology ( you're best to re-visit your Old Norse) -- are just as liable to mis-steps in diction as the rest!
JurgenH
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Can women really cast spells??
Posted:
10/31/2006 11:18:58 AM
Cast? Many
Spell? Disappointingly few (Warlocks no better).
Happy Halloween!
JurgenH
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Is Self-Deprecation Off-Putting?
Posted:
10/29/2006 11:56:40 AM
Thoughts from The Church of Dangerfield, Diller, Marx (Groucho, not Karl), and Youngman [
mea maxima culpa
-- I'm Goyim!]
Be especially skeptical of New Age psycho-babble about 'negativity' and 'poles' (Myers-Briggs-ish clap-trap -- oops, that's another thread: Apologize for my poor Search skills).
Don't get me going on Cats and Cooking (not good at either).
I'm left with a few Antarctic penguins now (though I'm over 40, with no children...so just those East of the Ross Sea).
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Henny Youngman: I was just in London - there is a 6 hour time difference. I'm still confused. When I go to dinner, I feel sexy. When I go to bed, I feel hungry.
JurgenH
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the ability to read persons eyes
Posted:
10/7/2006 11:49:24 AM
Was culling some movie quotes for another thread:
Robin (about Lydia Limpet): "Gosh, Batman, those look like honest eyes."
Batman: "Never trust the old chestnut, 'Crooks have beady little eyes'. It's false."
JurgenH
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At Columbia, Students Attack Minuteman Founder
Posted:
10/6/2006 9:46:07 PM
Jefferson: Liberty is a boisterous sea. Timid men prefer the calm of despotism.
Voltaire (roughly): I disagree vehemently with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it....
Spent some time kickin' round a British hotbed of Academic radicalism (LSE) in early 90's...worst I ever saw was a paper airplane thrown. Fiery debates. Then people would go down to the Three Tuns pub for a pint or two.
JurgenH
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Killer's wife is invited guest at first Amish funeral
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10/6/2006 8:54:35 PM
Amen...
Also, As reported in the Globe and Mail (A Canadian national newspaper) today:
"At the behest of Amish leaders, a fund has also been set up for the killer's widow and three children".
Such selflessness not unique -- known a few Benedictines who would comfortably do same --but pretty damn rare.
There are, of course, individual compromises in pursuing a collective lifestyle like theirs ( cf. a wonderful National Film Board Doc made back in the 60's -- name escapes me at this late hour -- that was a non-saccharine portrait of a Canadian community).
But life is full of compromises and theirs has integrity.
JurgenH
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Tips on finding # 1 men
Posted:
9/13/2006 8:15:02 PM
Absolutely Delicious Chrysostom!
Have happened upon the forum serendipitously.
I've not laughed so heartily in many months (not to dismiss: Didn't Russell say never was he so serious as when he was joking...)
Catharsis if ever there was!
There is, I fear, a lack of Irony (appreciation thereof) among many POF'ers.
From a Newbie! (And a straight man to boot).
JurgenH(abermas)
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