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 Author Thread: ABORTION. My life. My decision alone.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 444 (view)
 
ABORTION. My life. My decision alone.
Posted: 4/29/2005 4:57:46 AM
I bet they would raise up a good size shark too. All that splashing and commotion in the middle of a nice chum slick equals a freezer full of mako!
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Norwegian court convicts first woman for rape
Posted: 4/28/2005 10:45:25 AM

there is not enough time in the day for me to scream about all the women who get raped


But if there was enough time.....
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 31 (view)
 
US prisons swell by nearly 900 inmates each week over the span of a year
Posted: 4/28/2005 10:42:42 AM

So the 'churn' rate is 900 per week


Again, you don't know this. I did not see the incoming AND outgoing figures posted in this thread. You're assuming that by using the term 'swell' it is the positive number of inmates after counting the releases but I still haven't seen those figures.

Also, the 2634 Police State crap, since only 47% are new criminals you can double that statistic. So by the year 3268 we'll be a Police State right? Oh wait, we forgot to add general population increase.

I don't think we'll be a Police State in the next couple thousand years or so, nice try though.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 91 (view)
 
Why Do People Whose Lives Are Dependant On The North American Auto Industry Buy Foreign Cars???
Posted: 4/28/2005 8:43:58 AM
5 years ago the Flint G.M. plant had a strike? Based on what information are you getting this? I live 1/2 mile from the plant. Now.... would you like to know where i work? Hmmm..... somebody replying to this thread must believe EVERYTHING they read instead of researching the facts.


I posted one source already, why don't you read it for yourself. Here is a little more help, you obviously need it;

FLINT, Michigan (CNN) -- Striking auto workers cheered Tuesday when union leaders announced that the United Auto Workers and General Motors had reached a tentative agreement to end the 54-day walkout at two parts plants.

"I'm optimistic," said Neil McFadden, who works at the Flint, Michigan, Metal Center stamping plant. "Now we can go back to work and make cars like you're supposed to."

The battle virtually shut down GM's North American production and cost the No. 1 automaker $2.2 billion.


WSWS : Workers Struggles : North America : GM Strike

Settlement near in GM strike
By Jerry White
28 July 1998
The United Auto Workers leadership is nearing a deal with General Motors to end strikes at two GM parts plants in Flint, Michigan and allow the automaker to resume production at its North American operations. UAW President Stephen Yokich joined the high-level negotiations over the weekend and media reports indicate a settlement is imminent.


http://www.cnn.com/US/9807/28/gm.reax/

http://www.univ-evry.fr/labos/gerpisa/actes/30/30-8.pdf

http://www.wsws.org/workers/1998/july1998/gm-j28.shtml

You live there and you're still ignorant of the facts, they had a 54 day walkout!!. Talk about blind devotion...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 89 (view)
 
Why Do People Whose Lives Are Dependant On The North American Auto Industry Buy Foreign Cars???
Posted: 4/28/2005 8:31:14 AM
I'm sure the ceo really suffered had to settle for a benz instead of the roll's he wanted . darn those workers who actually put the cars together .


Actually it was the Company that suffered, he got the same amount of money. The UAW lost 4% of their workers though. You may change your outrage to 'damn the UAW, they just cost us 5000 jobs so the Union Execs can get a new Rolls Royce'

My point is that you don't bankrupt a company because 'you want to get yours'. That is why the UAW has lost 54% of their membership in the past 20 years. If the Union was doing such a great job for workers these days, the Union ranks would be growing, not shrinking...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 29 (view)
 
fair????
Posted: 4/28/2005 8:24:23 AM
I like that as well, taking facets such as that into consideration, I wonder if the 23% figure he uses is too high?

It's also worth pointing out for the rich haters, that they do buy more goods than middle class and they will lose those tax deductions they may get on purchases currently. The purchase of a beach house gets taxed without deduction if I understand this right...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 17 (view)
 
the sad truth.
Posted: 4/28/2005 8:19:29 AM
Bush was unaware "Splash Day" is now a fully gay and lesbian event on the beaches.


You make it sound like not knowing this is a bad thing. Since homosexuals only comprise a fraction of the US population, I'm quite sure the majority of people have no clue as to what their celebration schedule of perversions are.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 27 (view)
 
fair????
Posted: 4/28/2005 8:14:09 AM
John Linder makes a pretty compelling argument...

Let's get it done...:)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Republican congress, Republican President: F'ing mess
Posted: 4/28/2005 8:10:43 AM
Come on, more than 5 years since that Election and they are still crying about it? They lost, just shut up and move on. I would think the energy would be better spent trying to win an election somewhere else, that is if they are capable of winning an election...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Republican congress, Republican President: F'ing mess
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:59:00 AM
I wonder if Gore is ever going to stop crying about losing the Election.....

Democrats can just shut up and suck on it...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 14 (view)
 
the sad truth.
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:53:10 AM
I think the biggest problem has always been that Conservatives tend to be a bit too passive. Conservatives make up the large majority of America, but tend to sit by on the sidelines too long.

Cheers to Karl Rove for pushing the button that got them out in numbers for the Election.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 4 (view)
 
GOP Set to Scrap Ethics Rules Changes
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:48:50 AM
I'm just laughing at the Democrats getting their just desserts...

What a bunch of cry babies!

 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 12 (view)
 
the sad truth.
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:39:48 AM
I've got two better words.

Conservative America
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 10 (view)
 
the sad truth.
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:34:08 AM
Looks to me like MOST of America is red....

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/7902
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
fair????
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:21:49 AM
it's so less money is spent trying avoid taxes and so that businesses spend less money trying to determine tax libilities in business decision.


All valid points, I never knew that the cost of collecting taxes was so high, $700 for every $100 collected? Where did that figure come from?
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 22 (view)
 
fair????
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:11:05 AM
Watchman, when it comes to the super rich, unless they have a crappy accountant, they do not pay their "fair" share.


That's the same tired argument....


The top 5% of taxpayers payed 53.8% of all taxes, but made only 30.6% of all income.

The top 1% paid 33.7% of all taxes, and their share of taxes has grown faster than their income every year since 1990.


The rich pay way more than their fair share, even with smart accountants.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 13 (view)
 
What If....
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:05:47 AM
Good point Varus, sometimes my cynicism gets away from me...;)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 20 (view)
 
fair????
Posted: 4/28/2005 7:04:36 AM

if you don't beleive me, ask yourself who spends the largest portion of their income on expenditures, and who does not. all it means is that the poor will pay more,


Oh man do I agree with this! I mean I see so many women in poverty walking around with $5000.00 Gucci handbags the Fair Tax will just kill them!

(/sarcasm)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Norwegian court convicts first woman for rape
Posted: 4/28/2005 6:49:04 AM
I'm sure some Femi-nazi will be by to tell us how this was all just a political tactic to suppress women...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 12 (view)
 
What If....
Posted: 4/28/2005 6:47:20 AM

Every informed Canadian usually knows how America is governed yet so few Americans know how Canada is setup. I think that's what noodler was getting at.


You mean every informed Canadian THINKS they know how America is governed. They do like to tell us everything that they THINK we do wrong. I'll give them that much...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 15 (view)
 
N. Korea, 6, and Bush, 0
Posted: 4/28/2005 6:43:12 AM

but I say ignore them or get truly tough, nothing in between.


I agree and I don't think they can be ignored...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 87 (view)
 
Why Do People Whose Lives Are Dependant On The North American Auto Industry Buy Foreign Cars???
Posted: 4/28/2005 5:22:09 AM
Let's do that, stick to the facts;

McAlinden also notes that there hasn’t been an auto union strike since 1988,or even a walkout, and the last contract had a two-year wage freeze. “Labor and management are struggling with competitive challenges,” he says. “They are both on the same page.”


Tell that to GM when the UAW held a strike that crippled the company.

It was just five years ago that Americans watched angry UAW pickets striking a General Motors Corp. factory in Flint in a vivid display of labor muscle that crippled the world's biggest automaker.


What about the;
4 strikes in '94
2 strikes in '95
11 strikes in '96
6 strikes in '97
4 strikes in '98

How about all these strikes? They don't count?

Your source has no credibility at this point...

You are correct. 10% was a figure I was told once at a seminar. I actually looked it up on the Industry Canada website and it's only 5%!!!


I don't care what the UAW told you, or your source that has been proven to be wrong. The FACTS are that in the US the average cost per car in labor is $7500.00. That is a LOT more than 10%, in fact it's closer to 40% of the average cost of an American car.

From 1979 to 2001 the UAW lost 54% of it's membership. The auto makers are slowly replacing UAW workers because they are overpaid and unproductive. In 10 more years the UAW will be a shell of a Union with the fact cat execs living off the dues paid by all the workers they had.

In '99 the deal the UAW made will give their workers a 21% INCREASE in wages. That will take the average 40% labor cost per vehicle figure and raise it even higher. The UAW is forcing the Automakers right out of the market.

Wages will rise by 21%
? Pension increases were not vested— must
be vested quickly. Liability rises by 19%
? Productivity increases by 20% at Delphi,
14% at Visteon and 17% at GM NAO, not
enough to pay for higher labor rates
except at Delphi
? No productivity growth at Ford and DC
(less than 1%)


No productivity growth for Ford and DC? How wonderful, in fact the average rate of decline in the labor force for the UAW is 4%.

http://www.chicagofed.org/news_and_conferences/conferences_and_events/files/automotive_outlook_cost_of_productivity_big_3.pdf

General Motors announced Wednesday that it faces a huge loss for the first quarter of the year and much lower profits than previously projected for all of 2005. The news from GM, the world’s largest auto manufacturer by sales, provoked a sell-off of the company’s shares on Wall Street.

GM’s market share in the US dropped to a near all-time low of just over 25 percent in February. It faces high dealer inventory levels for many of its older vehicles, and has resorted to high cash rebates and 0 percent financing to increase consumer purchases.


The UAW IS the problem....
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 11 (view)
 
N. Korea, 6, and Bush, 0
Posted: 4/28/2005 4:31:23 AM
I don't know where you people get your views from....North Korea was quiet and passive until they had the nuclear weapons. Now that they DO have them, they think that entitles them to have a say in the big picture with the other global leaders. It has nothing to do with being called the axis of evil, that rhetoric was out there AFTER they announced they had built a nuclear weapon.

There can be no dispute, they built their nuclear facilities under Clinton's watch...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Bloodied Marines Sound Off About Want of Armor and Men
Posted: 4/27/2005 1:24:16 PM

You can flame all you want, but all I'm saying is stop and think before you become even more like Watchman.


Ok that was a really low blow.....
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Ladies night a double standard? It is in New Jersey.
Posted: 4/27/2005 11:34:51 AM

Ladies' Night found unlawful, discriminatory in New Jersey


Hahahah! Suck on it!

The pendulum swings back to center sooner or later...:)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 5 (view)
 
N. Korea, 6, and Bush, 0
Posted: 4/27/2005 11:32:28 AM
This is pretty funny. Let's be more accurate;

How many nuclear weapons producing factories did N Korea build during Clinton's terms?

How many nuclear weapons producing factories did N Korea build during Bush's terms?

See, once the facilities are built you can create as many of the weapons as you want but you need to build the facilities first. Complaining about how many weapons they have now when NOTHING was done while Clinton allowed N Korea to build the facilities to produce them is the typical liberal shell game.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 62 (view)
 
Fox News
Posted: 4/27/2005 11:26:31 AM
They are pretty equal with their political shows. They have Anchors that report the main news and the specific shows are fairly well balanced.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 48 (view)
 
Bloodied Marines Sound Off About Want of Armor and Men
Posted: 4/27/2005 11:23:48 AM
Rumsfeld's response to the soldiers (planted) question about armor for the Hummers was "we go to war with the Army we have, not the Army we wish we had." There are always opportunities for improvement identified in our vehicles, weapons, armor, etc. whenever we engage in war, as Clausewitz famously said, "no plan ever survives intact first contact with the enemy." However, we don't stop the mission while we wait for the improvement to be implemented, nor do we refuse orders because the mission is dangerous.


This is the heart of the matter. We can thank Bill Clinton for the "army we had" when we needed to go into Afghanistan and Iraq...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 437 (view)
 
Women being denied their Birth Control RX's because it goes against the Pharmacists moral beliefs
Posted: 4/27/2005 8:58:12 AM
Who needs personal responsibility when the women can just kill the baby anyway?

(end sarcasm)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Fox News
Posted: 4/27/2005 8:56:22 AM

finding it interesting that fox news is "fair and balanced", and yet they only have two reporters who support the left. alan colmes and greta van sustran


What about Geraldine Ferraro and Bob Beckle? What about all the other lefties they have giving commentary?
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Bush's Social Security Public Forum?
Posted: 4/27/2005 7:56:44 AM
Elwood, you're the only one looking foolish whenever you mention 'economy' and the components that make it work. That fact has been clearly demonstrated time and time again, and noticed by quite a few that posted the same remarks toward your inadequate comprehension of economics...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 29 (view)
 
US prisons swell by nearly 900 inmates each week over the span of a year
Posted: 4/27/2005 7:54:22 AM
That isn't the churn rate of crime trewq. You didn't list the number of inmates released from prison so you can't know what the churn rate is.

The churn rate would be the difference between the number of inmates released from prison and the number of prisoners sent to prison regardless of whether or not it was a re-conviction.

Also, assuming that drugs is the biggest growth area may or may not be accurate. While it's true that 57% in 2000 were there for drug offenses, you would need to compare that with stats from 2003/4/5 to see if it was 'growth' or not...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Bush's Social Security Public Forum?
Posted: 4/27/2005 7:45:09 AM
Mauser: it works like this...


This should say 'Mauser: it does NOT work like this"...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 83 (view)
 
Why Do People Whose Lives Are Dependant On The North American Auto Industry Buy Foreign Cars???
Posted: 4/27/2005 6:29:07 AM
Only 10% of the cost of each vehicle is labour cost. (at Ford anyway) Stop blaming the workers!


Completely false.


Sean McAlinden, an analyst at the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has estimated that U.S. auto companies spend $7,500 on labor for each vehicle, compared with $7,000 by Japanese automakers.


Unless of course you would have us all believe that a car costs $75,000.00, your 10% labor figure is ridiculous. It IS the fault of the Union...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 33 (view)
 
Fox News
Posted: 4/26/2005 7:25:33 AM
Most if not all their news pieces have BOTH a Liberal and Conservative offering their respective viewpoints.

I'd say that is fair and balanced...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 74 (view)
 
Why Do People Whose Lives Are Dependant On The North American Auto Industry Buy Foreign Cars???
Posted: 4/26/2005 7:23:17 AM
I bought a full sized Bronco with the 5.8 Liter engine in 94, I put 260,000 miles on it without ever having any engine work done. It runs perfectly even today.

It's a great vehicle and if they still made it, I'd buy another one.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Bankruptcy Bill - Who wanted it?
Posted: 4/26/2005 4:35:31 AM

They will offer credit to anyone, regardless, then try to ruin THAT person for accepting the card.


Ok that's just ridiculous. The Credit Card companies don't make any money when you go bankrupt. They get back pennies on the dollar when you go to Collections. They MUCH prefer you carry a large balance and just pay the minimum amount.

When you go bankrupt they lose money.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 68 (view)
 
Why Do People Whose Lives Are Dependant On The North American Auto Industry Buy Foreign Cars???
Posted: 4/26/2005 4:32:36 AM

Not sure what you mean by 'dependant'? If your referring to people that work for one of the 'Big 3' most do buy American cars. They get a lot of harrassing from other workers if they don't, plus I believe they get a price cut if they are an employee.


That is so true.

Remember recently when the UAW said the Marines training to go to Iraq could park their cars in their lot? After the Marines did so, the UAW told them that they could only park American cars there. Like our Marines going to Iraq somehow support our Country less because they drive a foreign car.

The UAW can go crawl in a hole and die.....I hope they do so much sooner than later...:)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 416 (view)
 
Women being denied their BirthControl RX's because it goes against the Pharmacists moral beliefs
Posted: 4/26/2005 4:27:55 AM

Well those "right to lifer" pharmacists wont be seeing any of my money and I will in fact make it a note to not purchase in their stores


I'm sure that would suit them just fine, they dont condone murder...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 412 (view)
 
Women being denied their BirthControl RX's because it goes against the Pharmacists moral beliefs
Posted: 4/25/2005 4:45:19 PM

Hey Watchman think those femi-nazis will respond?


I think they will stumble around a bit but not really say anything of substance...;)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 411 (view)
 
Women being denied their BirthControl RX's because it goes against the Pharmacists moral beliefs
Posted: 4/25/2005 2:17:57 PM
Some questions, Varus, I think we already know the answers though...;)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 410 (view)
 
Women being denied their BirthControl RX's because it goes against the Pharmacists moral beliefs
Posted: 4/25/2005 1:45:29 PM
Which is why we are pretty happy you stay right where you are. We don't need your kind here that's for sure...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 251 (view)
 
Why do people try and live off of minimum wage?
Posted: 4/25/2005 1:41:19 PM
Firefighters protect and serve as well. Claiming anything contrary is simply ignorance. Firefighters are PAID (volunteers excluded) to help the public.

Period...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 24 (view)
 
US prisons swell by nearly 900 inmates each week over the span of a year
Posted: 4/25/2005 12:54:25 PM
trewq, they do have all the numbers. That is the Department of Justice. Just go to the main page, there was a menu on the left of the link I posted earlier.

Here it is;

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html

All the statistics directly from the source that keeps them.
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Bush's Social Security Public Forum?
Posted: 4/25/2005 11:53:56 AM
What is cash income?

It's called Revenue Mr. Janitor


rev·e·nue ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rv-n, -ny)
n.
The income of a government from all sources appropriated for the payment of the public expenses.
Yield from property or investment; income.
All the income produced by a particular source.
A governmental department set up to collect public funds.


Man I need to quit posting anywhere near Elwood, trolls are always hungry....
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 19 (view)
 
US prisons swell by nearly 900 inmates each week over the span of a year
Posted: 4/25/2005 11:43:54 AM
Hey trewq, instead of posting editorials that are only opinions why not read the actual hard data from the source that actually has access to the numbers?

It's posted above....
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Bush's Social Security Public Forum?
Posted: 4/25/2005 11:40:04 AM

But it is not suppose to be a Gov't Source of revenue at all.


Better tell that to Elwood, he first coined the term 'revenue' for SS in this thread...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 15 (view)
 
US prisons swell by nearly 900 inmates each week over the span of a year
Posted: 4/25/2005 11:38:19 AM

.............."There is no very great danger of a rich man going to jail,"


Tell that to Marth Stewart....

I'd say the higher incarceration rate has to do with our lack of tolerance for breaking the Law. The Police are doing their jobs!

Good for us...:)
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 5 (view)
 
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN
Posted: 4/25/2005 10:55:26 AM
Which is exactly why we need works of fiction like this..to make us laugh...
 Watchman
Joined: 10/26/2004
Msg: 20 (view)
 
five year old in handcuffs
Posted: 4/25/2005 10:45:29 AM
Well it was probably two male cops on patrol that got the call, since she was a female child they needed to call in for a female officer.

I think they should go handcuff the parents to that child for a week...;)
 
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