You don't know for a fact he was doing it anymore than I know he wasn't. It's all just speculation.

You can't fathom for one second that Tom Ridge might just be trying to sell a few books, or maybe he is trying to distance himself from Bush for a future political run? There could be lots of reasons he is doing it, but he sure wasn't saying anything when he thought he had a shot at VP was he?

As I said before in democrats eyes all GOP are lying, ignorant, no good, corrupt b@stards until they go against their party, then suddenly they are beacons of truth and foutains of knowledge. See Colin Powell, Arlen Specter and now Tom Ridge for proof. Cracks me up.

Obama sat on the Board for FactCheck

Here are the (verifiable) facts.

1. Factcheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania ("APPC") (Source: http://www.factcheck.org/about)

Obama has never been ““heavily associated with” or "served on the board of" the APPC. (Neither Berg, nor his supportes have asserted otherwise.)

2. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg in 1994 “to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state and federal levels.” (Source: http://www.factcheck.org/about)

Obama has never been “heavily associated with” Walter (or Leonore) Annenberg. (Neither Berg, nor his supportes have asserted otherwise.)


3. Walter and Leonore Annenberg, also established The Annenberg Foundation, which funds the APPC and issues grants on a wide variety of issues, worth 100s of millions of dollars. (Source: http://www.annenbergfoundation.org)

Obama has never been “heavily associated with” or "served on the board of" The Annenberg Foundation. (Neither Berg, nor his supportes have asserted otherwise.)


4. Mrs. Leonore Annenberg -- the surviving member of the couple who started The Annenberg Foundation -- has endorsed John McCain for president. (Source: http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/ambassador_mccain_/2008/10/05/137538.html)

Obama has never been “heavily associated with” Mrs. Leonore Annenberg who has, in fact, endorsed McCain. (Neither Berg, nor his supportes have asserted otherwise.)


5. The Annenberg Foundation, which funds the APPC and issues grants on a wide variety of issues, worth 100s of millions of dollars, funded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Source: http://www.annenbergfoundation.org/usr_doc/Retrospective.pdf at page 8; http://www.annenberginstitute.org/challenge/sites/chicago.html)

Sen. Obama served on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Source: See footnote sources cited in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Annenberg_Challenge)


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Therefore, the “connection” between Obama and Factcheck.org is as follows:

In the 1990s, Obama served on the board of an organization that received funding from a foundation, which

(a) was established and funded by a couple, the surviving member of whom has expressly, publicly, endorsed McCain; and

(b) now provides 100s of millions of dollars of grants to a wide variety of public interest organizations, including the organization (APPC) that runs Fact.check.org.

Therefore, Berg's attempts to discredit Factcheck.org by asserting that it is owned by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge are demonstrably inaccurate.

First, for you folks not in the U.S. I think you’re just jealous you don’t have the same rights we do, and since you know you will never get your rights back you want to see us lose ours.

Why is there such a fear of inaminate object?

Charles ... please provide ... the real facts on teen preg. vs. abortion .......

USA ... vs ... Canada ...

In relation to ....... population differences .....

The point is that carrying a weapon that is exposed is not against the law.

Is there any proof that the states that allow its citizens to carry weapons in the open, have more gun problems than the states that don't allow it.. Personally I can't see myself carrying a loaded gun on my hip but thats just me

Since the Congressional break many elected officials have tried to curtail our right to speech in many ways, bullying, name calling, non admittance to events and etc.
So just maybe some people are trying to tell our Elected Officials to take a step back and leave our Constitutional Rightsalone.

Why is that ? I haven't heard of anybody pulling the trigger at any of these events.

The statement in question was that Canada has a decreasing number of teen pregnancy, not that it had one lower than the US.

The rate of teen pregnancies in Canada has hit an all-time low and has fallen more dramatically than in the United States and England over the last three decades, says new research published.

As far as death threats, George Bush averaged 10 per day. I love the selective concern shown here for a favorite son, at the expense of all others, but that is to be expected I suppose.

Changes in our culture,(surprisingly not Bush). No one can argue that movies like Juno have effected our youth's view of pregnancy. Also, as a mother of a two teens I can assure you that compared to when I was a teen, there is much more risk-taking among teens today.
Besides, the same data showed that last year also had record high rates for for Caesarean deliveries. Bush must be butcher happy, too.

So what you're saying then is the moral choice is whichever method is effective? Since abstinence is ineffective (in your opinion) we should modify morality to best suit our goal? Tell me, Charlie, what if we discovered tonight that ------ (fill in the blank) will have 100% success rate in eliminating all unwanted pregnancy.
What if the method was barbaric? Would you still support it? I do not think so.
Morality can not be modified.

Great. We've discovered a way to blame even this on Bush. Tell me, are long nights and overtime required to conjure up such crap? There are countless possible causes for the rise.

Abstinence is the only moral choice that leads to decrease in teen pregnancy.

Guess scandals are bipartisan.

Banging? Really?
Wow..moving on..
From the bottom of my heart I say "Weak".
Or maybe "Desperate"?
Confucius say, "I do not accuse Heaven, nor do I blame men; here below I am learning, and there above I am being heard. If I am understood, it must be by Heaven."

This is an assinine comparison....try again

Saying abstinence is the only fool poof way to avoid pregnancy is like (FACT).

You can get hit by a car walking down the road, or riding a bicycle.

And the only way you can blame Bush for teen pregnancy is if he is porking teenagers

My nephew (top of his class...very bright) was taught about condoms...he was taught they don't work...they break all the time.

Sometimes there is a difference between education and truth.

I agree that even teens who have had only abstinence only sex ed know about birth control. They certainly know where babies come from and how they are made. My conclusion is that many (if not most) teens that have and keep babies got pregnant on purpose, or didn't care if they got pregnant.

Abstinence is the only fool proof way to avoid pregnancy. Even Sarah's daughter was aware of birth control prior to conceiving. I would find it extremely hard to believe that even one younger couple that was part of an abstinence only program was unaware of the purpose of condoms. They just chose to take the dive unprotected, caught up in the moment I suppose.

Acorn next assignment.
Start sending lists to the gov't site. Who appose Obama health care reform.
Or put themselves on that list. So they can be plants for Obama when he needs to make a point.

Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller and Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto, both Democrats, announced the charges, stressing that there's no evidence that the phony registrations led to the casting of votes using fake identities.

ACORN officials in Kansas City said they turned in the four people who were indicted.
"When you fraudulently defraud this, that gives us a bad name and what we're trying to do a bad name," Harris said.

Last month, ACORN claimed to have processed more than 35,000 voter registration applications in Kansas City since the summer.

ACORN may be victim of its own workers in registration cases

However, Lomax said in a phone interview with McClatchy: "I don't think Acorn consciously sets out to turn in fraudulent forms. I just think the people they hire find it incredibly easy to rip off their bosses and turn in fake forms."

While he criticized Acorn's quality control, Lomax said he doubted that any of the fake filings would result in fraudulent votes.

Election officials say that registrations under names such as Mickey Mouse or Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo suggest that Acorn workers were trying to fill their quota of 20 applications to get paid, not to steal the presidency. They say that county registrars or poll workers would flag such obvious pranks, and that anyone who signed a poll book in another person's name would risk being prosecuted for a felony.

If I remember the group that was responsible for out of state people was called ACORN.
They not only were hitting up the the rallys in busloads but were registering people more than once and even registering themselves in states they didnt live in.

Charles .... You can spend your life posting the immoral displays of the right wingers you despise ........ AND ...... the right winger's can match you ...... tit for tat .... with equally immoral .... displays .... from your liberal cohorts !!!!

WTF ..... Is your point !!!!

MY POINT ..... You are all ...... LOSERS .............

And ..... many of us women ........ ARE DONE WITH ALL THIS ... B' SHIT !!!!

Wow, Chuckie way to spin things, sh!t to hear you say it you would have thought this was an actual policy or program, now how about a little fact to go with your fiction …

Death Panel is over the top for sure. But, to think more people will be covered at a lower cost without some stricter cost/benefit analysis being done is wishful thinking. Now, if congress could figure out how to eliminate just 50% of the administrative burden of our system that'd be a good start.

Operation TIPS, where the last part is an acronym for the Terrorism Information and Prevention System, was a program designed by President George W. Bush to have United States citizens report suspicious activity. It came under intense scrutiny in July 2002 when the Washington Post alleged in an editorial that the program was vaguely defined, and investigative political journalist Ritt Goldstein observed in Australia's Sydney Morning Herald [1] that TIPS would provide America with a higher percentage of 'citizen spies' than the former East Germany had under the notorious Stasi secret police.

This is typical rhetoric and total fear mongering BS, It's BS like this that tells me you have no legitimate arguement to support your position so you have to resort to distortions and fabrications

If you don't accept that, then you're naive, in denial, or too much of a kool aid drinker to admit the obvious. Most people "know", in their guts, that Obama's actions were all about race.

I have read that ACORN would have a lot of involvement in the Government run health care plan. They were already involved in the census. How long before they become militant?

A cited source might be apropriate with this type of allegation.

In 2003, President Bush proposed and Congress approved a sweeping global initiative to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria. The U.S. between 2003-2008 directed $15 billion in funding for treatment and prevention of HIV/AIDS worldwide. In 2008, Congress took up a reauthorization of the funding.

A cited source might be apropriate with this type of allegation.

When real reform comes to the table, then you'll have 70% behind it. What Obama and the democrats are proposing is not reform and the people are wising up to the fact.

Get the big corporations and lobbyist out of Washington and get back to the basics.

This coming from someone who opposed free speach? Scandalous!

Christianity scares you, frankster p?

Palin calls it as it is.
She must have read the bill, unlike the liberals, who comment about her.
Even the liberal congress men don't have time to read it

Yes, "your President"... I have pledged my allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands - not to the Eurpean style socialist oligarchy he is trying his dead level best to turn us into...

Wow, bashing the repubs again? Isn't there a rule against flaming?? Just kiddin. Go ahead and dish it out my leftie amigos. We are getting used to the silly remarks and the propaganda. Don't think that we are not listening and learning. If you think that we are out for the count,please keep on thinking that. Better for us to rebuild on the things you are saying. That way one learns to fight the fire.

What is even more interesting is what Peloski had to say about the people at the town hall meetings. There has been no pictures or videos of anyone at these meetings that showed any swastikas or similar symbols being carried into the town hall meetings.

America and the free world is indeed at war with Islam. Obama thinks he can sacrifice the defensive and offensive actions of a past president and Americans so our enemies will play nice. Does he just not understand? I use the term Radical Islamics pretty often because I know, as in many religions and countries, SOME people do not condone what their leaders do. But acquiescence is another form of approval.

That policy, if successful and other Police Departments adopt it, will hopefully prevent in the future the sad spectacle of the Cambridge Police Department coming to the defense of Officer Crowley, just because he was one of them, without really knowing what happened inside professor Gates' house.

Let me guess - Haliburton has gone into the swingset business and GW required all playgrounds to switch to their swingsets during his administration?

Yep! CLEARLY all GW's fault! Just like everything else that has gone wrong with the world!

We agree

Sadistic democrat PE teachers who were getting even for the all the times they were picked on by bullies in high school.

So trying to blame Bush for this

So this 150% is just a bunch of BS.

Actually, you have it backward. All those things contribute to teen pregnancy rates, as well as the things I've mentioned earlier, and things that have yet to be mentioned. Clinton's program, which was continued under Bush, is just a talking point supplied to people with only enough intelligence to reiterate what they read, and not enough to think about it first.

I've read your posts here on the political forums, some of them anyway. You don't seem to have a very high opinion of the US. At least with anything in the US that isn't liberal/socialist. I'm not a big supporter of the right-wing myself, but they aren't wrong about everything. I'm not going to waste my time going back and forth with you (like some do here). Your politics are your religion, and I could no more have a two sided conversation with you on a politically sensitive subject, than I could discuss the possibility that Christ was just a man with a hard-line Christian.