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raraavis41

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Listening to our children at our age Posted: 11/24/2009 6:51:38 PM
I know I value my children's input when considering dating a man. That is not to say they control my life at all but I certainly value their opinion. Any opinion has some value, though sometimes it can stray into the negative numbers. ;>) I would never ask my sons, 23 and 24, an opinion on someone I was dating because I wouldn't want them to feel responsible for an inaccurate judgement. I believe they have followed my lead in not giving unsolicited advice so it would be unusual for them to give an opinion on anyone unless I were to ask first. Their views are so divergent from mine because of the age difference that I don't know that even accurate assessments would make any difference to my thoughts about a date, paramour or significant other. I would hope that they would like her rather than just tolerate her, much the same as I'm sure that they would hope that I like their friends and not just tolerate them. We all must live our own lives in the manner that we are comfortable with, not burdening our kids with our possible social blunders. If advice is needed, ask your peers, not your children. But as far as discussions of relationships in general, if your kids enjoy discussing issues, I am all for sharing and debating insights and knowledge. One never should quit learning.

raraavis41

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Commitment, a unique or generalized pledge? Posted: 11/22/2009 7:01:33 PM
if/when both are willing to be willing, we can then see what happens and take the next step, which is willing to commit more confidently. it's a day by day thing, but there is no phobia attached. instead, it' s more of a happiness that you are both trying and trying together. I think Serenity made an important point worth stressing concerning how a person views the state of commitment. However, I doubt that many people are actually phobic in regards to commitment in a relationship. But instead, we can just say that they fear a possible negative outcome because of the commitment rather than looking at it as an opportunity to bond together with someone we want to be with in an unknown future. I also suspect that many of the people who say that they fear commitment may be just using that as a handy excuse to avoid saying "I'm just not that into you." It certainly would not be a lie to state that they fear commitment to them in that situation.

raraavis41

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People, why against the rocking chair on the porch? Posted: 11/20/2009 5:51:21 AM
My metaphorical rocking chair has become the one in front of my computer. It is where I reminisce, meditate and cogitate about the world, especially the people and parts of it that I have come in contact with. I have no front porch, but my computer screen can give me whatever view I wish to find if the one through my window is not interesting at the moment. It is still fun to get out and do the hiking, camping, hang gliding and other stuff. But if it becomes an obsession, then it's no longer fun. I enjoy the time in my "rocking chair".

raraavis41

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Commitment, a unique or generalized pledge? Posted: 11/20/2009 5:12:45 AM
There seems to be at least two approaches to commitment, the rational approach or the emotional approach. In the emotional approach, if the right mix of personality traits trips one's trigger to fall into love, then the commitment is a given. In the rational approach, the heart is guarded until the past learned fears are assuaged. Does the commitment in the rational approach come before love but after putting the fears to rest? Perhaps here is where the levels of commitment come into play as trust is gradually earned. Is love and commitment just another way of expressing complete trust?

raraavis41

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Commitment, a unique or generalized pledge? Posted: 11/19/2009 10:38:14 PM
Lots of good thoughts on commitment… a quick and incomplete summary so far… Blueeyesrsmiling – a commitment to non-judgmental balance Indefatigabilis -- real love provides commitment without needing intent. Danielle – commitment can encompass every aspect of a person’s life Sapphireeyes – don’t expect commitment if you don’t give it Cassago – levels of commitment Wooby – I may try as hard as I can to commit, but it may prove to be not enough Ohdriver – Our younger selves have a much less specific view of commitment. With experience comes awareness of the need to specify details. Zenbeth – Would you want to use those same marriage vows from 1966 if you were to get married now? Or would there be substantial changes due to a lifetime of lessons learned? ItsMargo and Karma1160 – How does one commit to a moving target? My idea of commitment has changed over the years, which makes me wary of making promises that I may not only be able to keep, but that could perhaps morph into something that I couldn’t even think of at the time. Wooby nailed it with her post of mutual hope as a commitment. It accepts the futility of trying to predict the future, but it seems that attitude also must be anathema for the romantics and optimists out there. Maybe instead of committing to an individual, a person could commit to ideals instead, like honesty, fairness, and respect?

raraavis41

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How much do we tolerated before calling it quits ???? Posted: 11/19/2009 6:15:13 AM
Like any complex system, there will be peaks and valleys of activity and interest. Interesting information can be distilled from anywhere along the highs and lows, but the by looking at a complete cycle, there is plenty that can be learned. A modicum of tolerence is necessary to see the big picture. But when the same unpleasant experience keeps repeating with no corresponding good experiences, then it is time for a change.

raraavis41

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Commitment, a unique or generalized pledge? Posted: 11/19/2009 4:16:00 AM
I did a quick search of thread titles and didn't find this angle in any title, though it may have been discussed within one of the many titles concerning commitment. What I wish to discuss is how our view of a commitment has changed as we have gotten older and hopefully wiser. Do we expect more or less? Or something completely different from what we expected in our 20's or 30's? I'll get back to this later today after I think about it for a while.

raraavis41

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Nose & Ear Hair Posted: 11/15/2009 11:40:24 AM
Rosebuds brings up a good point about fingernails being analogous to hair. If society thinks it is proper to trim long nose and ear hair, why doesn't it also consider it proper to trim unsightly long fingernails on men and women? Now I'm not grossed out by long ancillary hair any more than long fingernails, but I don't particularly think they facilitate any improvement of a person's demeanor and appearance.

raraavis41

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Taking a Trip Down Memory Lane Posted: 11/15/2009 8:36:52 AM
I've found that my memory is getting worse as I get older. But rather than trying to hang on to old memories through mementos, I think I would prefer to be making new fresh memories. What I really could use is a fool-proof way to remember all the lessons that I have learned in life... I would hate to start repeating mistakes as I get older.

raraavis41

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smell me Posted: 11/9/2009 2:20:36 PM
99% of soaps are scented so that is just another aroma to mask ones natural scent (or stench!) I'm surprised that the soap industry hasn't jumped onto the advertising gimmick of adding phermones to soap scents. Maybe they're afraid people will get too friendly with the soap?

raraavis41

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smell me Posted: 11/7/2009 5:10:09 PM
I see the makings for a great high school science project here. There should be no shortage of horny nerds that will be willing to be test subjects in a double blind sniff study.

raraavis41

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Is there any point in 'cause' chain e-mails? Posted: 11/7/2009 5:59:37 AM
One of the few pure pleasures in my life is the utter loathing that I have for chain letters of any kind. If an idea is worth passing on, then I don't need to be told to do it for fear of bad luck or for the hope of good luck. My friends have long ago learned that my response of a chain letter to me is not what they expected. ALL CHAIN LETTERS MUST DIE! MUAH AH HA!

raraavis41

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Robot lovers - yes or no? Posted: 10/27/2009 6:30:42 AM
Much like the literary crutch of deus ex machina, this crutch for finding a lover couldn't help but fall short of the real thing. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't be an interesting experience on its own. Fantasy plays a large role in any relationship. The balance between realtiy and fantasy is just another important aspect that partners need to agree on.

raraavis41

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At this age, are we still wearing blinders or do we really want the truth? Posted: 10/16/2009 9:49:40 AM
If I have information that I think a friend should have, I share it and they can do with it what they will. There is always a judgement call whether I think they would be better off with or without the information though, and so perhaps I have erred sometimes. But I try to keep my conscience clear and usually err on the side of too much information and let them stop me if they so choose. Koan for the day: What do you call a friend who does not have your best interests at heart?

raraavis41

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Resources men and women bring to relationships Posted: 10/12/2009 6:46:43 PM
It was meant to discuss whether men offer resources beyond the level they would give in a platonic relationship before they expect sex. A similar question could be asked of women, as they bring their own resources with them. O Kay, I think I understand the question finally. I can't speak for other men, but I know that I don't offer any more material resources to prospective lovers than to good friends. It is based on perceived need more than anything else. To do otherwise would feel too much like trying to buy emotional loyalty.

raraavis41

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Resources men and women bring to relationships Posted: 10/12/2009 4:13:56 PM
In my opinion, that would require a significant amount of time and energy. One might say it’s tantamount to providing evidence of love. There are many ways to provide evidence of love, and I think one needs a much larger view than just the physical things either person provides. Trust is the most important thing in a relationship and that must be earned, not given.

raraavis41

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television-- pros and cons Posted: 10/12/2009 5:00:37 AM
I'm looking for clarification of your position. i've heard that a couple of things are bad about TV: -- one, it excites your body without you moving, potentially for hours on end-- causing adrenaline and other complicated humours to circulate when they shouldn't -- two, it does all the work for you. you sit as if active. You enjoy film, which I assume means movies, which may be viewed on the television. The same stresses seem to occur regardless of the venue, i.e. excitement of the body without movement, so that leaves the advertisements of television as the main difference. I'll grant you that they can be boring, obnoxious, and even distasteful, but doesn't that break in the movie ameliorate part of what you object to as part of the TV package? Commercials have traditionally been the snack, bathroom and conversation break that is lacking in movie theatre format. Mute is such a handy feature on remote controls!

raraavis41

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How far would you travel for a love affair? Posted: 10/11/2009 6:47:29 PM
For an interesting meet I have gone as far as 150 miles, but depending on the degree of curiosity I develop, I can see myself going as far as I need to within the US or Canada. But for it to develop into a relationship, it would need to be within an hour or two of travel with at least a chance of relocating.

raraavis41

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Better or Worse Posted: 10/11/2009 5:26:52 PM
A lot of talk about moving slower or faster for best results. The only results that count are the ones that produce a compatible individual, or at least someone who you think you would like to spend time with. If you are uncomfortable moving quickly, then eventually you'll find someone who likes to move at roughly the same rate. I've tried meeting at just about every rate, from glacial to quickly, and I've found that I prefer the slower approach in order to get to know the person first. It is possible to know an honest person from just e-mails if you're not in a hurry and just enjoy the exchange of ideas. But sometimes the liars are interesting to meet as well.

raraavis41

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television-- pros and cons Posted: 10/10/2009 5:17:16 PM
I always thought that one purpose of TV was a fantasy outlet that didn't have the stress of real life. Mindless comedy might be the cure to lower high blood pressure!

raraavis41

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television-- pros and cons Posted: 10/10/2009 4:34:59 PM
Occasionally I see a profile that states proudly that they don't watch television which thereby implies that it is not a good thing. Our 45+ group is essentially the first wave of a social experiment which had no controls concerning television viewing. Was there anyone out there that did not sit glued to the TV for as much time as allowed back then? I'm sure that all of us have an opinion concerning this. Let's hear the entire arguments for and against to see where the acolytes and adversaries stand. For those with adament beliefs, this certainly might be a crucial factor in determining the suitability of a suitor.

raraavis41

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If anything can make a man more of a man, Posted: 9/29/2009 7:41:07 PM
it's NOT nonsense - it's science... I'm not sure if you could call it science, but it is decidedly a true description of the end result. The problem of the study is that it looks at the people's longevity and attitude of those who stay married. Those who stay married are overwhelmingly those who are happy in their marriage. Those who divorce (and are thereby single) or never find the right person to marry inherently will sustain much more stress, thus leading to all of the conclusions of the study. A better way to look at it would be to study all people who have ever been married and compare them to people who have never been married. I suspect there would be a totally different picture of the pros and cons of marriage in that case. But regardless of any study, I think the point of the original quote in the OP was that men need to take on responsibility so that they are challenged to meet their potential. I agree with that.

raraavis41

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need to drink alcohol to enjoy sex? Posted: 9/25/2009 5:42:08 PM
Do you mean that men need a stiff belt and women need to loosen up? Seriously, I think it depends more on the person's personality than anything else. If the person is generally reserved, then it will certainly help to free up a few inhibitions if good sex is to be expected.

raraavis41

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Die Now or Live For Ever Posted: 9/24/2009 7:00:19 PM
Given almost a couple years to think about this, I now realize you are in fact describing the classic setting of hell. Think about it, you cannot die even when the sun blazes into its red giant phase and encompasses the earth. But you will still feel the pain and agony of your perfectly functioning body as it continually burns in the hellish environment. Death seems heavenly in comparison.

raraavis41

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When you walk let your heart lead the way Posted: 9/24/2009 6:10:29 PM
Geeze, I could reason myself out of being with anyone Generally I try to reason myself into a relationship about equally as reasoning myself out of one. Balance is a good thing.

raraavis41

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When you walk let your heart lead the way Posted: 9/24/2009 5:02:33 PM
Also this things about “but.,.... I like buts... in more than one sense! Rarely is there a rule without an exception. I like leading with my heart and letting it open doors, but then I look inside the room with with my intellect to see what actually is there. I'm a firm believer in realty based decisions.

raraavis41

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The grass is always greener... Posted: 9/23/2009 8:38:19 PM
I live in the desert where I suspect there is only one blade of grass. Despite diligent searching I have yet to ascertain which side of the fence it is on.

raraavis41

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The most important virtue over 60...for women and men. Posted: 9/16/2009 4:49:42 PM
Not being 60 yet, I may change my opinion of this in a few years. But observing the over 60 set, I suspect patience might be one virtue that is likely to slip away from us, perhaps because we see time as running short. I must agree that one virtue in isolation is not very valuable, but in conjunction with others, patience would seem to help the individual the most in relieving the stress of the everyday misfortunes of life. The good fortunes of life need no adjustment.

raraavis41

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the last- Best You Ever Had Posted: 9/14/2009 5:50:21 PM
It is an oxymoronic concept. I will remember the best thing in my life until I experience the next best thing. Hopefully all of us will have memories of lots of best things and let the lesser memories fade.

raraavis41

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Weird tests ... Posted: 9/1/2009 5:13:19 PM
Has anyone else passed a weird test from a potential suitor? I haven't ever been tested to my knowledge, but I have utmost confidence that I could pass with flying colors because I am the king of weird!

raraavis41

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Manipulation or acceptable behaviour? Posted: 8/31/2009 10:13:23 PM
So there's the problem, I've never been able to Understand women! Isn't that a typical man thing? There will always be manipulation by those capable of doing so of those naive enough not to realize the techniques used. The only solution is education in the school of hard knocks. And then the manipulators will complain of all the jaded people that they can no longer manipulate. C'est la vie.

raraavis41

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Manipulation or acceptable behaviour? Posted: 8/30/2009 7:22:33 PM
My take on manipulation is that "bad" manipulation is of a devious, or secret nature while "good" manipulation is openly communicated before and during its commission. This is true in individual relationships as well as politics, advertising and religion. By bringing it out into the open, then both parties have an equal stake in the outcome, even though it may be a bit messier.

raraavis41

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Tolerance with age? Posted: 8/30/2009 7:44:11 AM
There is a wide range relationships in which tolerance plays a part. Usually tolerance is inversely porportional to the physical distance between the parties. Genocide in Chad doesn't have me marching on Washington to fix the problem because it is so far away that it doesn't affect me except when the newspaper prints another article about it. Conversely, little daily nuisances can be so overbearing that they appear to be greater than they are, but it might be something that we can directly and immediately implement a simple remedy for. As for tolerance within a relationship (or a potential one), rather than looking at all the individual items of discord, I usually leave it up to my subconscious. After spending a few hours together with a person, if I find I need to take a day to relax and decompress afterward, then that is certainly an indication that I am intolerant of some part of her personality even if I'm not aware of exactly what it is. So for the question, "Am I more tolerant with age?", I would say that I am more aware of my limitations than when I was young and stupid. I can still have bouts of stupidity, but I can no longer blame it on inexperience.

raraavis41

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20/30 Pics Instead of Written Profiles Posted: 8/21/2009 8:02:06 PM
So jbogie, let me see if I understand your position here. You seem to be unhappy with the content of some of the written profiles. If everyone had equally lucid and attractive sounding profiles, then we would really be in a fix because we wouldn't know who to write to first. Both the written profile and the pictures give the reader information about the fish, and it is up to us to decide if it is a keeper or not and if they are worthwhile enough to make the effort of writing a message. I always prefer more information rather than less to make decisions. I really do appreciate profiles that are obviously not to my liking because I know that I would not be a good match for them. After scratching everyone off my list but one, then I'm finally done! ;>)

raraavis41

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20/30 Pics Instead of Written Profiles Posted: 8/21/2009 6:23:43 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words, but to capture the unambiguous essence of what you want to describe, it is much easier to write a few words. Staged photos seem too much like a falsehood presented as fact in my eyes. FFS... I think most of us must have a pic of us in front of the monitor! It is an apt description.

raraavis41

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What is compassion? Posted: 8/15/2009 2:40:04 AM
they often think to much and do too little And sometimes less is more... usually realized after thinking enough. Compassion is unique for each circumstance, and it certainly creates a closer bond if a person has had first hand experience with the suffering that initiates the compassion. But the actions one takes as a result of compassion should be a result of reason, not emotion, or the outcome might be something that requires yet more compassion.

raraavis41

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What are the most amazing 'properties' you have ever seen in science and nature? Posted: 8/10/2009 6:28:32 PM
Krebby2001.. //OP... In science class...// Wowza :).. What a nice story :D I feel compelled to add that it was also felony stupid as well. Hopefully he was never permitted into a chem lab again. commenced to adding up some chemicals that wound up, "exploding" when you dropped them He could have just as well unknowingly mixed up something that was even more powerful and took out the whole lab. As for the OP I guess I would add animal mating rituals as one of the most amazing properties I have seen. After watching human mating rituals, I would guess we're not that different.

raraavis41

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All this pulling of weeds cannot be healthy for lawn Posted: 8/9/2009 6:27:04 AM
Just thought I would add one caveat to Optimistically_Cynical's post about Roundup's soil activity. I agree with everything he had to say, but it needs to be clarified that Roundup can be picked up by a root system close to the soil surface if applied to the bare soil surface when the soil is damp. I was spraying a few weeds under a fruit tree right after an irrigation and was rewarded with a textbook example of root absorbed herbicide damage. My experience has been that it is safe to use it on dry ground before irrigating, never had any residual soil activity from this practice. As for all the concern about health effects of pesticides, the ones on the market now are generally so safe that you have a better chance of getting killed in an automobile accident than getting sick from appropriately applied pesticides. Would you forgo transportation in order to be safer? All life has risks.

raraavis41

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would you marry for money? Posted: 8/8/2009 3:31:18 PM
The last offer I had was for $1.75 and a cup of coffee... I declined, but continue to think what might have been had I been more open minded.

raraavis41

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Did you really give it your all? Posted: 8/8/2009 2:32:12 PM
The "giving" I am referring to is the amount of change of yourself that you are willing to give for the sake of the relationship. Beyond a certain limit, the change can only be a chameleon-like act that will always come back to haunt one. You must be true to yourself before you can be true to anyone else.

raraavis41

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Dating movies and/or DVDs at home... Posted: 8/8/2009 1:34:40 PM
Try asking what genres they are interested in before making a choice. Nothing better than a little communication to make for an enjoyable evening.

raraavis41

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Did you really give it your all? Posted: 8/8/2009 1:29:04 PM
Two questions one should ask before giving your all... is it healthy for me? and will it make a difference? I believe a person should know what their giving limits are before going into a relationship and have a few discussions concerning mutual limits before getting beyond a friend stage... not sure if me and my ex did that (getting older and the memory fades), but I hope to say I learned from the experience. No, I didn't give it my all, but I'm glad I didn't because now I see it wouldn't have mattered and going beyond what I felt was healthy for me would have only have raised expectations that I still wouldn't be able to fulfill.

raraavis41

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Why are people closing posts with Namaste? Posted: 8/1/2009 10:17:04 PM
Language evolves whether we like it or not. People using the word eclectic in reference to musical tastes used to bug me, but if enough people use it, then it is accepted.

raraavis41

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How did God(s) begin? Posted: 7/29/2009 5:54:12 PM
I thought Julian Jaynes answered this very well in his book "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind ".

raraavis41

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Born Believer? Posted: 7/24/2009 6:03:44 PM
Perhaps the gist of the argument may be in how one defines an optimist, realist, and pessimist. I would argue that if you are not willfully ignoring "things" (another term I might use for reality) then you are an optimist in name only and are what I would call a realist. An intelligent realist can recognize the reality of positive thinking and can learn to look for the positive aspects of reality after determining what actually occurred. It has been shown in many ways that our brain tends to assume new phenomena is like similar previous phenomena (which is the basis for magic tricks). I would contend that a person labeling themselves as an optimist would tend to not look critically at everything the world throws at them, and instead assume a preset bias that it is generally good. Perhaps that is not what most optimists do, but that is this realist's POV regarding a person who would label themselves as such.

raraavis41

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Born Believer? Posted: 7/21/2009 11:12:48 PM
The behavior I'm confused about is why 'realists' (often pessimists and cynics trying to be PC - old soul being an exception, not including old soul in that) think those of us 'happy' people are wrong or foolish or whatever? What do you think we are missing in life? What does your view of the world get you that our view is not getting us? In a word, reality. An extreme example of what I'm getting at would be if you thought it healthy to read a pleasant story, and because you wish to avoid all the stress in your life, you make the story your own reality. Sometimes this is a good escape mechanism, but it can be harmful if used too much. There is nothing wrong with optimism by itself, only to the degree that it is used. The same can be said for pessimism and realism as well. The mind is a plastic entity that needs the ability to adapt all the time. That day I decided I was going to be happy. Life changed. I'm not happy every minute of every day but I am on the whole. Less bad things happen now. I see more beauty and more good things come my way. What you are missing is right there in your own words... "Less bad things happen now." As a realist I find it hard to believe that less bad things happen, but rather that they are met with a blind eye. Again, that may or may not be a good thing. Most of the time I would rather assess it myself whether or not I dismiss something bad in my life as not important enough to worry about.

raraavis41

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Control, how important is it to you? Posted: 7/10/2009 9:52:26 PM
I would love to be in control... I just haven't ever figured out how to do that yet. Life keeps throwing me curve balls while I'm swinging at what appears to be fast balls.

raraavis41

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punctuality and doing what you say Posted: 7/2/2009 4:39:18 AM
Molly msg 21 if they AREN'T purposefully being RUDE ... what ARE they being?! accidentally rude? Perhaps I'm wrong in my definition of rude, but I thought there needed to be intent included in the action to warrant that application. Yes, there are some people who are purposefully late and I agree those are rude people whom I try not to associate with. But I'm talking about the friends and relatives that I know are just unable to keep track of time adequately to be on time. Once you get to know them it is usually easy for those of us who are gifted with a strong sense of time to compensate for them by adding in their tardiness factor. That "friend" who shows up five hours late or the next day is not who I am talking about... he just doesn't care about you and is wrapped up in his own narcissistic behavior. I'm talking about people who are anywhere from 5 minutes to about an hour late for most things. I've never met anyone chronically challenged that had such a poor concept of time that they were more than an hour late.

raraavis41

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punctuality and doing what you say Posted: 7/1/2009 8:09:26 PM
This difference in the respective concepts of time is like expecting an atheist to believe in religion rather than to just respect the difference of opinion. Equal consideration would mean that a compulsively on-time person would try to understand why a chronically challenged person is handicapped. There is a difference between being unintentionally late and purposefully being late, which is rude.

raraavis41

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Bad experience with pets Posted: 7/1/2009 7:22:20 PM
With your track record, I would say stay as far away from those stallions as possible! While well trained horses can be predictable, there is no way to tell how well trained those two are.

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