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Thread: Why men wont date independent women
gamestermtb
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Why men wont date independent women
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5/11/2007 5:48:30 AM
All this talk about, Independence and neediness, control....hmmm..I know its about the changing roles .. but really..
To think that when your in love with someone you don't feel like you need them on some level it just silly .. of course you do.. or why the hell you would you, live together, marry.. When it comes to control... whenever ANYONE MAN OR WONMEN gets in to a relationship you need to be willing to give up some level of control of your life.. you ARE responsible to the other half of the relationship...
Its only an issue when people take.. control or neediness to an extreme or for that matter independence... for the most part most the girls I have met are not crazy .. with a notable exception and a few borderlines...
I just don't understand why these issues get so much press..
For the record, YOUR DAMN RIGHT I want to be needed... and want to need the right person... ITS ALRIGHT TO DEPEND ON YOUR PARTNER!!!!... for crying out loud why have one if you can't depend on them.
And most men who have there heads on straight .. well at least of my generation .. don't care of your independent .. just don't use it as a to put your self in social or financial situations that you wouldn't appreciate your man being in without your consent...
SOME independence must be sacrificed to be in a relationship... if you can't do that.. don't even try..
For the record just like men there are women who want their cake and eat it to.. the companionship and security of a relationship... with the adventure of a borderline single ish life on the side.. which tends to be borderline disrespectful to their partner
I have been there done that .. I understand women have accert their independence.. but for me waving that flag to much .... is a big “red” flag about not being ready to do what it takes to be in a relationship and "SHARE" your life.. and respect me.
my 2 cents..
gamestermtb
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Why men wont date independant women
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5/10/2007 7:14:28 AM
A friend of mine in heath care for the government told me about the fallowing.. I thought it was interesting.
How life expectancy is effected by relationships for men and women
Men live the shortest life expectancy by far when single
Men live the longest when in a relationship, whether its good or bad, it doesn’t matter life expectancy is the same
Women live the shortest life span when in a bad relationship
Women live a medium life span single
Women live the longest by far when in a good relationship
So what dose this mean .. Men need a women.. the quality of the relationship dose not matter
For women while its beneficial to be in a good relationship its harmful to be in a bad one so they must choosy.
This also translates into some other facts in modern society (this I got off the Discovery civilizations channel. .lol).. (and I'm going to get flamed for this).. The modern women tends to be more promiscuous emotionally which often equals sexually (In search of that right relation ship) then men. Men not as promiscuous because it more important the we have a relationship, good or bad
Another little tid bit 85 percent of all suicides above 60 are men, usually single and alone.
Its a tough time to be a man me thinks when it comes to relationships.. So I guess what can be inferred from this is we men are not as tough as we think. While we are still born and bread to be independent providers, and emotional rocks that don't crack..(IE not to show emotion or express it. That doesn’t change the fact that we obviously feel it)
In the end we do crack if we don't have the love of a women.
gamestermtb
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Im bad at talking
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5/2/2007 7:57:29 AM
Just a little heads up for all the IQ meter measures in the thread that think the size of the word you can spell is directly proportional to the number of neurons firing in someone’s grey matter
two words..
WAY
and
WRONG!
Many of the world most intellectually gifted past and present couldn't spell there way out of a grade 5 spelling bee.. in fact many genius level IQ's have problems with school in general.. This because education is tailored to fit the average person with average horse power between the ears.. all those people with tricked out bain matter just don't fit in the basic construct of that is our education system... Spelling is not an indicator of weather some is Low or High IQ... more likely its a great indicator of someone’s averageness.. (new word)
and for those that say "for the love of god spell check"..for many this is irrelevant for reason I’m getting into here..
Final wisdom
*high horseus dismountmaxus*
gamestermtb
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Why when a man opens up women slam the door shut?
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5/1/2007 11:56:03 AM
This is just anecdotal
Men are supposed to be men.. and "women" generally want a "man" (naw that can’t be true can it) even though the roles are/have changed.. Many if not most Women do not need us to take care of them anymore but its hard to let go of 1000's of years of evolution. I think women need to know your solid.. maybe not a stone but very solid. I if you can't take care of your own stuff, subconsciously many women think how can you handle her stuff to... Whether she needs you to or not.. Its part of the role we play and what makes us attractive as a mate over just another one of her girl friends except with facial hair and bad gas.
The guy that hasn't learned that “you don't give women everything she wants and asks for”... is just her friend that often is not even respected as that and can end up walked all over. One thing is for sure he will never be her lover, mate, partner or in her eyes her equal
Men and women push each other’s boundaries.. Whenever we allow those boundaries to be crossed (either/or) respect is lost on one side, resentment is gained on the other and failure is just a matter of time. One of those boundaries is often the emotional roles we are meant to play.
Just my life’s experience.
gamestermtb
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How Recent are Your Profile Pictures?
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5/1/2007 6:26:18 AM
Some last summer , Some this past winter
gamestermtb
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I cried during a sad scene - and she freaked!
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4/27/2007 11:45:28 AM
I Dated a girl once, we got along ok. She loved cheesy horror flicks and we got on to the subject of what scares us the most. With out hesitation she said .. "the sound of a man crying", mine was burning to death. I was shocked. I questioned her on it and she said she had never seen her father cry..
This there were other reasons why we didn't end up getting serious but that was always in the back of my minded.. While I don't out right cry at movie.. I do get choked.. and hey life hurts bad sometimes.. I can't imagine living with women that was terrified of my tears..
It doesn’t happen often but when it dose.. Damn I need my girl to be there..cuz by the time she sees that in me.... I'll have probably been her rock several times.
gamestermtb
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Chivarly, ok well Romance??
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4/27/2007 7:44:25 AM
The point here is simple.. When you do something special for someone you love or care about.. The worst thing that person can do to you is scorn that .... For me its a tell tale sign that this person dose not have your best interests at heart and my be with you for reasons that do not include supporting and caring about your well fare.
I like to do things like that for my Girl once and a while .. some women are not crazy about it but if you take the time to do special dinner, a spa day at home, a pick nick on the living room floor in mid winter, Secret clues to a unknown sexy meet up .. What ever it is .. if she doesn’t show appreciation for it.. she is being careless with your heart and the relationship.. that to me is a deal breaker if immediate steps on her part are not taken to repair the mistake.
Sounds like that girl walks around with her own person spot light.. the rest of the word is her audience.. dark figures she can barley see thought the glare of her life
gamestermtb
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goddamn Seducer, Lets cut his nuts off.
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4/9/2007 6:12:06 AM
Yes it takes two to tango.. but I do think when a women has a one nighter (were she is complete control of her faculties, with out foreign substances interfering) they tend to get hurt more then men.. that’s just a fact.. Men and woman generally look at sex differently, as has been stated.. Its generally speaking is more emotional for a women.
This being said how many of you girls .. have undone a button to get a guy to do something for you.. even though you have no intention of give the poor smoe even a taste of candy.. How many of you or how many girl friends do you know have stung some poor wide eyed lemming along to get something else other then the sex that she/you are advertising..
Bad Men use a women’s desire for an intimate connection to get sex from them .. Bad women use men’s desire for sex with them to get other benefits for free
I have been used, crushed and discarded… we’re men we bleed and we hurt too, we just don’t talk about it as much.. I have already broken several sections of the man code by admitting this much..LOL.. some women are very good at getting what they want… but such is life.. live and learn..
We’re all just people good and bad.. no matter what the gender, uniform, race, religion .. The bad ones will always use whatever they have in any means necessary to get what they want..one should never paint a whole gender, race, religion just because you have been brushed the wrong way by one or a few...(I should take my own advices.. lol..easyer said then done)
gamestermtb
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MFM threesomes and sharing your wife?
Posted:
3/29/2007 8:26:45 AM
This is such a common fantasy between with both man and women... women like the attention of it, the knowledge the are being a sexual goddess to two men...most woment if not all have a bit of an expansionist craving… guys like the dominating taboo bad girlness of it.. and the new kind of visual stimulus
I have found that with most women I have been in a relationship with .. talking, and telling explicit stories about MFM while we’re are getting our freak on is a very intense experience...
I have not had a MFM with someone I love .. but my last love and I both shared the fantasy.. unfortunately the world was kind of stacked against us.. so it never came to pass..
I think I will say no more.. except this
I have never cheated on a person.. not even a kiss.. I'm passionate about trust. there is not a gay bone in my body ..hehe.. lol.. I pun you
I personally think just because people explore their sexuality dose not in any way morally bankrupt or homosexual make.
I have had this conversation with people that don’t approve.. Ironically while this type of behavior is often demonized…. I find that many of the people (not all) that demonize it have cheated.. or have engage in behavior that is much more vicious .. dating several people and because their “Just dating” the think they have license to do very deceitful hurtful things. ..… how we all like to throw stones in our glass houses ..
Its not what you do in life.. its the "integrity" with which you accomplish it
gamestermtb
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call me crazy...
Posted:
3/26/2007 11:02:27 AM
Hey I know its raining 2.5 seconds before my more follicly endowed brothers and sisters do.. much more in tune with the elements...
People embrace the wash and go life style.. free your self from your brushes and hair care addictions.. (to be replaced by blades, moisturizers and a regular exfoliation regime)
I was forced to make this decision long before it became the cool-e-o thing to do.. bald & beautiful at 20... I still remember the first time I bicked my head.. I remember just rubbing my head for like the rest of the night .. so smooth.. er ah..*looks aground* what?!
.. but I agree its the thing right now..
With regards to the goat.. I have had that since high school days.. only one girl ever posed the question?.. hmmmm I wonder what would you look like with out that.. hmmm.. So being the super sensitive to her needs guy that I am.. (um K my motives were the usual.. honesty is key right?)... I took out my razor and went to work.. later that night.. she told me that it would be ok if I grew it back.. in fact she said, " let me put some Rogane on your chin for you dear" hehehe
My dome will still be shining long after the trend is past.. I don’t know if I would take hair back if I could have it.. bald is just me..
gamestermtb
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The Secret
Posted:
3/20/2007 1:01:05 PM
I'm going to check it out..
Just some facts..
* By 2020 Depression will be the second largest cause of disability next to heart disease world wide for both sexes and all age groups.. it already is for some sects.
*The market experiencing the largest growth for Antidepressants is the Preschooler market
*80% of the people you see in a doctors office are depressed (depression often manifests is self in the body so you go to the doctor to get treated for it)
*Youth suicide is the 2nd largest killer of kids (10-24) in Canada
*Youth suicide in the U.S has tripped in the last decade wile adult suicide has dropped
I'm down with any thing that stand for positive thinking... and if the barer of that message gets rich.. then let that be enragement .. its better then making money off of fear which so many companies do.
gamestermtb
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Frist Album/cassette/CD?
Posted:
3/20/2007 11:57:16 AM
Billy Joel " An Inocent man" ..for my first casset walkman ..(I guess mom figured if she was buying it she got to be the DJ) .. it was size of your avrage concrete block.. and just as heavy.. if you to fall in the lake warring it you'd drown..life jacket or not your going down.... not a pretty way to go .. last words heard lyrics of "Up town girl"
Can't belive I can remember the songs off that tape.
gamestermtb
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Dating but not committing....why?
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3/20/2007 11:04:18 AM
One thing I do think is that to many people have this disposable view of the opposite sex..
The mirror of life
Whatever is cast out, will be a reflection
What do you want your reflection to be?
Be wary of what you cast off
After all, you are your reflection.
gamestermtb
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40 year old..looking for 18-35
Posted:
3/20/2007 9:31:10 AM
I think there are reason for both dating older and dating younger... someone younger may be looking for some stability in their life.. a sence of grounding...
Now someone older date someone younger.. why do we alway seem to think its about the "Obvious"... Dating younger can make someone who feels a little "to grounded" as in stuck.. feel young again.. not just physically but in minded .. I have seen it..
To a certain extent I have date younger and older..
Not all relationships are meant to be forever.. and just because its not forever doesn’t mean its just about the "Obvious"…
I guess my view what happens between consenting adults .. is just that
I have ment enough people to know that everyone has different needs and wants… and who am I to judge what make one person happy..
when it comes to extreams
If a young girl/guy is looking for a bit of a father/mother figure so what.. if a older girl/guy wants something young and fun..who says its all physical.. and if it is .. who cares..
Live and let love.. or live and let lust.. not my pile so I don’t care how it smells..lol
gamestermtb
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Do I just have sucker written on my forehead
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3/20/2007 8:36:04 AM
I feel your pain.. been there done that... you know someone told me something once that sticks with me.. not that I always listen to it .. (my last relationship, case and point but that’s whole other deal for an entirely different table me thinks)...
It was this:
“People with always tell you who they are, if you listen”
Sound kind of silly but think on it .. thing about the people you know well and what they say..
Like the buddy you know down at the coffee shop.. he says jokingly (people often joke about there bad sides) "I can be such a bas***d sometimes" chances are he is ..
Or the girl in the office at work who smiles and say "I can be such a bad girl*.. yup that right she probably is..
People Joke its true.. and sometimes it totally just a joke.. but its amazing how much truth can be found in someone’s jokes.. if you look for patterns
Any way .. I just mentioned this cuz most of the bad relationships I got my self into.. when I think back its crazy how much the other person was telling me and I was just not listening with the right ears.
this might make a good tread see if other have found the samething..
gamestermtb
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First time POF Party expriences..
Posted:
2/22/2007 10:22:07 AM
BTW chickie .. graz.. hats off.. wishes of heath and happyness and all that jazz..
Northern.. lol.. I'll see ya there for sure.. might be a little l8r to the Newmarket.. have to go to Barrie for a bit that night.. hmmm.. shoulda done that diffrent..
gamestermtb
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First time POF Party expriences..
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2/22/2007 8:23:26 AM
hmmmmm... well my troll skills are lacking of l8t apparently
therefore I vote to Delete my self... but not all redundancy in life is bad... its good to have a redundant moments here and there.. sometimes we’re just a little to much about the purpose of a thing... new thread maybe.. hehe..
gamestermtb
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First time POF Party expriences..
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2/22/2007 7:57:30 AM
Hey all .. first thread..
Through my incredibly accurate reading comprehensions skills... and a typeo I have mange to get my self hooked up to a POF event double header this weekend ... Barrie and Newmarket.. never been B4
Not that I'm "nervous at first" cuz I'm a cool confident marble statue of a man.. Ahem.. marble cheese cake maybe.. mmmm.. Cheese cake..*eyes glaze over for a sec*.. snaps back to reality as he sips on his chocolate Slim Fast shake..
Just wondering what was your first time experience stories with a POF event.
Any of you Vets.. meet a new pet at a party?
gamestermtb
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Barrie meet at quiet restaurant...Feb 24th, 2007
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2/22/2007 7:39:32 AM
Ooli_oop
I'm rather relieved that you're going to turn up on Saturday and not Friday. I'm not sure how well received your name tag service would be on the day before the party. lol If printing legibly is not your thing, maybe you can sing out the names of POFers instead. Do you have a nice singing voice? Or maybe "Town Crier" might be more appropriate. I'll bring the bell. See you there. ;-)
Well like all things I think its in the ears of beholder ..er.. listener.. Dogs and car alarms seem to go crazy when I sing..
Also my singing is good exercise for small children.. as they tend to run in fear..
gamestermtb
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Newmarket Feb 23rd Party!
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2/21/2007 10:41:13 AM
Hey all .... nice Newmarket...
I singed up to the Barrie one.. b4 I saw this.. looks like I'm in for a bit of a busy... weekend..
come on boys and girls 36 people .. 14 more and we're in the VIP room..
we could do Braille name tags..LOL... I'll just let the possibilities dangle out there.. >:) lol.. and I don't think actually being able to read Braille would matter .. it more about the attempt... hehehe..
gamestermtb
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Barrie meet at quiet restaurant...Feb 24th, 2007
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2/21/2007 7:54:29 AM
err.. I also have free time on Saturday.. the actual date of the event..
just let me know what to do if you need help
gamestermtb
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Barrie meet at quiet restaurant...Feb 24th, 2007
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2/21/2007 7:52:34 AM
Well I have some free time on Friday we get kicked out of work early .. if you need help with the tags I'm in.. but I warn you .. if your place in life was decided by the precision of your penmanship.. I'd be the guy in the ally sleeping under the newspaper cuddl’n his bottle Robitussin-in-a-bag...
:) ..If I print really really slow.. you should be able to read them...
I might be tempted to right the names so small that by the time your close enough to read them .. you might as well just go head say hi.. and introduces your self >;)…of course then you run the risk overwhelming the local hospitals with a wild outbreak of repetitive eye strain. Wich in turn could cause a domino effect, collapsing our entire Heathercare system that’s just hanging by a thread.. Which intern could substantially raise taxes next year in order to put the pieces of the failed heath care system back together..
Maybe I should just put the pen down.. back away and avoid coffee for a few hours..
LOL
If you need help let me know… I may have exaggerated a bit
gamestermtb
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Barrie meet at quiet restaurant...Feb 24th, 2007
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2/20/2007 6:59:43 AM
Hey all wazup..
First post.. first event..
113 people. I’m thinking maybe not such a "quiet restaurant" at this point... so many people to meet so little time..
See you all there…
gamestermtb
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Sex with married men
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10/31/2006 11:32:49 AM
Up until recently I thought I knew the answer to this question.... I have been cheated on.. and I can say the only time in my life when I felt completely lost was dealing with the fall out caused by a cheater.. but if I'm really honest it was part my fault.. its hard to say that with all pain and anger... but its a fact. .... I have never cheated, ever.. not even a so much as a kiss while in any form of committed relationship.
Granted some people are selfish.. its a purely about conquest and sex or getting the attention but you know life is not black and white. Good honest people can cheat.. just like there’s a killer in most people given the right circumstances…. There is also cheater in most your hearts as well. I used to be black and white, right and wrong… but I think the karma of that self-righteous attitude brought the very grey situation I know face right to my door step.
Take a connection that started in a online video game (I know crazy) and grew to something out of control.. it’s so easy to fall for someone when your not meaning to.. and they you...It can just hit you.. Throw in a bad marriage.. and someone taking a cheater back for all the wrong reasons.. Nothing changing .. 2000km apart…. and one window just one window of opportunity or never… just to see.. What you get is the once high and morally mighty may soon not be so.. the thing is … it feels right….I will be taking down this profile till thing are sorted out… but this thread caught me.
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