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roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

Msg: 79 (view)

Love vs. Security Posted: 9/3/2008 12:31:51 AM
i believe its starts with the instincts higher and lower tell me how many men have sworn of women becuase thay were hurt and then found themselves alone at nihgt watching a porno and why is it women say money isnt important yet watch how thay reject men without jobs or a vehicle . it happens believe it or not .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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What is the perfect women ? Posted: 9/3/2008 12:19:20 AM
the argument between progress and perfection has been arround for years . I know that things are exactly the way thay are sappose to be right at this point in time . At the same time , even though things are perfect in gods time , right now , I know that I should try to progress into something more than what I am right now . That's growth .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Love vs. Security Posted: 12/19/2007 11:26:42 PM
Love to me is actually boundless , without security . Once a man asked Mother Teressa to pray to God and ask him to give the guy a better understanding for his whil , and she refused . She said that in all of her life serving God she never once had a better understanding of Gods whil for her , but she did have more trust in him . SO she instead told him that she would pray for more trust in God . That to me is Love . I believe that love is something that comes thrue faith and trust . To acquire trust though , you've got to walk the path first . Love is something that keeps you going on that path . Without love , the path gets narrow and dark until its no longer worth the journey anymore . And you ask why devorce rates' are going up . Read this agian and see if you can figure that one out . Roger

roglol1973

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What are signs that show if a woman has low self esteem Posted: 12/19/2007 11:01:43 PM
Wickedbella were you even aware of what the topic was ? What dose women being smarter than men have to do with anything that we are talking about ?

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Dead Aminals on Profiles... Posted: 12/19/2007 10:20:21 PM
O.k. For those inteletuals' on here . Let me brake it down for you like this . Doctors' will even tell you this . We have higher and lower instincts' . Higher instincts tell us that we shouldn't kill , that we should believe and worship something outside of ourselves' . That we should have morals and know right from wrong . Then , we have lower instincts' that are our desires' and our temptations' . These are the instincts' that push our physical nature . The nature that knows no character , reason or morality . Its like two male dogs' humping in the back yard . The hunters' that you are discussing , (the ones that hunt for the points') , give into the lower instincts which tell them that it is o.k. to kill without consequences' . In Illinois though , I know hunters' who don't even agree with the N.R.A and thay think Charltin Heston is a crock of so and so . The reason why thay feel that way is becuase the N.R.A. glorifies television shows that post hunters on early morning television killing dear , cutting off their antlers' and leaving the body where it lays' . Thay feel that if you kill it , you eat it . You respect your kill becuase it gave its life for life . That is what I personally know . If you want to really talk about cruelty , talk about the dairy farms' where you get your milk out of the stores' from that sluaghter endless counts of cattle on a daily basis . Talk about how thay are put in pins' full of manuar for their entire life , beaten with electric whips if thay don't obey , and then when thay can no longer produce calves' and milk thay are sluaghtered for meat or thay die and become Dog food for your little friend arf arf in your house . How about your buddy arf arf , who you've domesticated all of his/her life , and he/she has no nature instict to survive . Which by the way thay should have , considering dogs' are suppose to be that way right . Yet we humans' set ourself above everything and everybody else by blaming and rationalising with those higher instincts' of morality we live by . Roger

roglol1973

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Love vs. Security Posted: 12/8/2007 8:35:05 PM
Oh how evil lies flow free when only picture we can see If our eyes were to ever meet would we still voice such deceit? I agree with you, you agree with me especially when we have to think to know if we could disagree. admit it my friend, have no fear you've not expressed a single thougth that has come from between your ears! Now think about what is beoing said here . This is a good example of pure ignorance, and I will brake it down for you . I agree with you, you agree with me especially when we have to think Now here we talk about the humility thing that I enjoy talking about and most of the poeple on here atually know little about . This sentance suggest that debate and arguement isintellectual . That its the truth when atually it only brings contraversity and chaos in your life . admit it my friend, have no fear you've not expressed a single thougth that has come from between your ears! Next we talk about this , here we see this person talking about independant thought . and that no original thought flows from the brain of who this person is talking about . This is what we all Self Delusion , it says to have no fear and to do that we all know that we must have striength . To gain the striength required in life you don't gain it thrue intelectual debate , you gain it thrue experience . If your information comes from your brain and not the experiences ' that you've had in life your in denial , self delusional and in full flight from reality . There has never been an original thought that has not been thought of befor , which has came out of your mind . The truth is that conformity is actually the way to truth , yet we wish to be so independant and we fight with our intelelct to prove them all wrong . Don't we ?

roglol1973

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Love vs. Security Posted: 11/29/2007 11:32:32 PM
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? The problem is that there is no sollution in this question . it dose not matter which came first . To Thine Own Self Be True . My take on the selfish vs. selfless thing is this . I've been given the responsibility of taking care of myself . I have learned that to do that , I cann't preoccupy myself with just one thing for too long . Not even for just one day . I am the type of individual who needs emotional balance . Intelect tells me to think , and when I think , I tend to worry . Worry is a state of mind . When I worry , I cling , and I create security nets' . Love is about communicating with more than just one person , becuase in my own head Im in bad company . I will always be giving myself bad advise . I cann't ask the other person , becuase she may not like what I have to say or what I am thinking . To hurt her with that thought or those words' , I feel would be selfish . Going outside of that relationship and finding another person to discuss those situations' with to me would be selfless . Unity is about groups and fellowship with your fellow man . That is love as well . Taking advise , communicating with others (not only her/him) and asking for help with problems' is also what its about . Pride is bad and that is what cuases allot of problems' in relationships' today . Devorce rates are up , and its a trend almost . Why is that ? Its becuase or morals and values' have been lost in the rat race to work . In the traffic jams' and at the bar .

roglol1973

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Where did all the Ladies' from Evansville Indiana Go ? Posted: 11/29/2007 11:12:38 PM
Ill do that good luck to you too .

roglol1973

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Dead Aminals on Profiles... Posted: 11/29/2007 11:04:11 PM
Hay trust me some ass and titties' that are portrayed as you mentioned are vary productive . I have met women on the computer who litterly travel all over the country by meeting men on here and telling them exactly what thay want to hear just to exscape . Show a couple nude pics and the men come a callen .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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What are signs that show if a woman has low self esteem Posted: 10/22/2007 9:52:21 PM
It is so funny when I hear this word , "high self esteem" , and it makes me ashamed becuase its always men saying it . I'm almost embarrased to be a man , simply becuase I was educated to values' and morals' and I had to learn them in a recovery program . That high self esteem that you speak about is simply called ego . Fear , breads self pride , which in turn inflates the ego . Poeple with low self esteem usually have what most women understand . An ego-centric with an inferiority complex . Men have these problems' and yes women do too , yet women recognise it more than men , becuase thay notice it mostly in us , and not in there selves' until its too late and the damadge is done . Just what I have learned .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Why do colledge chicks gossip yet are good in bed and older women don't and are more into relations Posted: 10/22/2007 9:34:36 PM
Younger chicks are good in bed? Since when? Or may be you consider them good because they are young and prettier than their older sisters? It's scientifically proven that older women are better in bed. All I have to say is prove it to me , talk is cheap and I want action . The other comment made , no my information comes from the back of taxi cabs when I drove . Get it , good .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Dead Aminals on Profiles... Posted: 10/13/2007 11:40:03 PM
Heck Feed everyone peanut butter and french fries' made in vegatable oil and bread that is made locally instead of abroad . I say the hell with the hunter becuase he is obsalete , just as dinosuars and gasoline is soon coming to its end . Balls to the wall I say let the fat lady sing and the piped piper sing his song , and all along a women is crying becuase the poor cow has to be butcher and she cann't fish . That flounder is purdy and the horse meat is just too rough to even try . But potatoes , and peanut butter what a delight . Heeee Hawwww

roglol1973

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Indiana/Illinois Get together? Anyone interested? Posted: 10/1/2007 11:59:41 PM
What gets on my nerves' is the fact that I see threads' like this and its for Illinois and Indiana , yet everyone wants to run to Indianapolos . Im in Evansville which is located centrally in the middle of Illinois , Indiana , and Kentucky . Nobody wants to do anything here though . whats with that . Its a better idea to do something here so that everyone in the area can get involved instead of everyone up north . Just my opinion and I could be wrong . Its just a repeat is all . Same oh Same Oh it seems .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Sober and Dating Posted: 10/1/2007 11:50:21 PM
Yeah I agree with what your saying jim , and I agree with the lady too , A.A. though has turned into alot of Treatment Philosophy though . These days' things like dont get into relationships' for a year and don't 13 step is the big thing . It isn't suppose to be an A.A. thing , yet treatment has turned it into an A.A. thing ya know . A.A also believes in what Jim says . I dont have to worry about going any where as long as I stay in fit spiritual condition , yet like the lady said , most drinkers' drink to take the edge off befor thay get to know you . It dose make it hard and sober poeple tend to be stereo-typed these days' as bores and Wet blankets' . Cry babys' and Crackpots' , so it makes it difficult to meet poeple . Now too , Im not into talking about things that none sober alcoholics' talk about either and that scares' women off too . Women really don't like hearing about God and spiritual beliefs' all the time and that is what we love talking about . Just a few thoughts is all .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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What is the perfect women ? Posted: 10/1/2007 11:39:06 PM
Your going to make me fall in love . And I would sit upside down on a couch with you any day . You are a perfect women and don't forget that . You came a long way baby . Thanks

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Love vs. Security Posted: 10/1/2007 11:32:50 PM
Financial insecurity is being neurotic about your finances' , it has nothing to do with providing for the family . Financial insecurity for women especially , seems to be this neurotic impulse of finding a man that she feels is secure financially and selling her self to that person for gratifacation . We men tend to take our financial insecurities' out on other's . Love on the other hand , (to me) , is when someone wants to provide for their familly , becuase thay honestly want to . I also believe in what I just read on here about becoming emotionally dependant on others' . I believe that is all about not taking responsibility for ourselves' and rationalising an excuse for blaming others' when things go wrong .

roglol1973

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Why do colledge chicks gossip yet are good in bed and older women don't and are more into relations Posted: 7/24/2007 6:57:33 PM
oh yeah word , try being a cab driver and listening to the dingy little colledge chicks one moment and then taking prostitutes to the crack house the next . Then you bring yourself back to me and tell me to respect women . Yo Yo Word Dog !

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Love vs. Security Posted: 7/24/2007 6:51:54 PM
one of the reasons why I asked this question was becuase of one of the women I met on POF . She wanted to be a trophy wife and was looking for that paycheck husband . While she was married , she would allow her husband to beat her , and be verbally abusive to her , simply becuase he was a truck driver and made good money . She of course didn't have to work . She stayed at home , and all she had to do was take care of the house . At least until he kicked her out . Thats right , he kicked her out . She was living in housing when I met her and chasing down the bills . Thay even turned off her lights once while I was visiting her . She was so embarrased . She was working at a grocery store and learning about the office work and doing fine work wise , yet she was still looking for that paycheck husband on POF . She didn't like doing the work that she was doing , she wanted what she had befor . She was scared becuase she never had to bring in the bacon . Someone else did , all she had to do was put the money in the mail . One day she 's doin it all . Its amazing to think about that . Now that I saw it , I know that I am going to be vary careful about the motives of the women I allow in my life . SHe allowed a man to abuse her for quit a few years simply for a paycheck .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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What is the perfect women ? Posted: 7/24/2007 6:39:26 PM
The perfect woman is the one who is imperfect. She lives life fully everyday and doesn't worry that every hair is in place because she accepts her own shortcomings but doesn't dwell on them...life's too short. She smiles much and laughs hard without worry about laugh lines or wrinkles because they are better than frown lines and pursed lips. She's emotionally, physically and spiritually healthy because she takes care of herself, but not to the point of vanity or selfishness. She is strong, balanced, kind, gentle, loving, bold, honest, brave, happy, funny, confident, intelligent, sympathetic, creative, skilled, handy, sexy, sensual, romantic...a woman who is willing to continue to learn, grow, take risks and make mistakes. She's sometimes rumpled, smudged, garden soiled, harried, wearing baby spit, and may very well be kitten clawed or puppy chewed. Her nose may be freckled from sunlight, her hair might be tossed into a quick ponytail, but her eyes are clear and her smile is sincere. She's friendly and likable, and she's loved by many who already know her. She radiates inner beauty and has taken time to find her own peace and place in the world. She's not petty or jealous and doesn't need continued validation of who she is, because she knows who she is and she's happy in that knowledge. She is trustworthy, respectful, responsible, loving, forgiving and loyal. She will love you as much as she does herself, her family and her friends. I wish you the best in finding her. you see that is what I am talking about . I read that and thought about aunts and great aunts that worked in the garden when I was a kid or my grandmother who always picked me up when I fell . Its so hard for me to believe though , that morals have gone so far down that a question like this is thought of as bad . Like nobody here women or men ever had a women that thay looked up to growing up , or someone that thay wanted to be like . Almost every comment made , was a comment that criticised and was negative about the question . It s the first responce to the question even . The majority of the comments came from poeple who didn't even understand the question even after I elaborated on it a little more . I talked about values and it went over there head . I'm not looking for the perfect women . I have heard a few perfect women on this thread , why look any further . The perfect women is progress . Sorry , but its true . Progress is perfection . Every spiritual and religions belief circles arround this moral value . To strive twords perfection is perfection . If you are trying to better yourself then you are perfect . Short and simple .

roglol1973

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What are signs that show if a woman has low self esteem Posted: 7/24/2007 6:04:22 PM
This was a good thread , I think allot of what people on this thread are talking about is more on the lines of codependancy problems . It was explained to me , while in treatment ,( I am in recovery ) that there are two forms of dependancy . Cling , which every one is aware of and excepts as codependancy , and anti-dependancy . It has to basically do with being oversensitive and also grandios . It's like a drunk homeless person , looking down on someone becuase their house is messing . Low self esteem , cuases dependancy and anti depency which is rebeling agianst the idea that we need other poeple in our lives . We are still being ruled by that persons actions , but this time in our mind . In recovery we call that renting space in our head . Its still being codependant . Codependants though , prefer chaos in their lives . Thay can never be by themselves and thay don't recognise serene thay call it boring . If things are boring thay cuase chaos to make life better and more exciting to them . Thay are also emotionally bankrupt and thay feed off the emotions of other's . If you are sad and thay are arround you . Thay take your sadness , then thay find someone happy , give them your sadness and take their happiness . When thay have their happiness , thay feel the need to give that happiness to you . Thay continue this cycle over and over agian . Until poeple grow tired of them and ends up kicking them to the curb .

roglol1973

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Where did all the Ladies' from Evansville Indiana Go ? Posted: 7/17/2007 4:29:44 AM
Im doing that now I leave you a message ok .

roglol1973

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Why do colledge chicks gossip yet are good in bed and older women don't and are more into relations Posted: 7/17/2007 4:26:34 AM
Yeah , I really wrote this thread becuase I was a cab driver and had to pick up allot of colledge chicks when I was driving night . So you know my weekends were interesting to say the best . I noticed it allot , I was with a few of them and I have also been with older women as well . I agree with the women going to colledge though . Thay are clueless to the life going on arround them it seems . Its in front of their face yet thay cann't even see what life is really about .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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What is the perfect women ? Posted: 7/17/2007 4:20:10 AM
I think that the women who feel thay are the perfect women are the perfect women . And every person who has been properly education to values and purpose clearly understand that perfection is progress , nothing more nothing less . Each person who makes a comment on this thread is commenting on their character and how thay have developed in character building . This is the reason why I asked the question , and I am completely amazed with the answers I have gotten .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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What are signs that show if a woman has low self esteem Posted: 7/17/2007 4:10:26 AM
To me this is a confident women They often are your female doctors, scienctist, world class athletes, etc. they invested in themselves rather then in a dresser full of Marykay makeup or the latest $600 purse. Hey, I'm a scientist and I invest in a dresser-full of make-up (better than Mary Kay), $600 or more purses, and let's not forget the shoes! I have all the self-esteem I need, without the attitude! Some signs of women having low self-esteem: 1. always comparing herself to others, in a negative way; feeling insecure about her imperfections 2. can't do it attitude; not willing to take risks 3. feeling guilty all the time 4. letting others walk all over them 5. clingy, lack of individuality and about the comments on the comment about overweight women , I can see both sides . Not just for women though , and not just for food . I have posted befor that I am a recovering alcoholic and drug addict . I have been sober for a little over four years and I worked the twelve steps in Alcoholics Anonymous . I had to learn about what the guy who made that comment was discussing . I also have met guys who are way over weight , and one who has repeatedly been hospitalized because of his weight . He was also a pot head back when we were younger . On my fourth step , I learned I was a little kid in a candy store unsupervised . It has to do with fear . Im not going to go to far into it . I also believe that it is about humility too , what I say can affect the poeple arround me and it is up to me to show a little compassion twords those poeple . I appologise for any comments that may have hurt you ladies and I respect you all.

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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What is the perfect women ? Posted: 7/13/2007 11:02:50 PM
I dont know what you mean about me getting attention . I figured it would be a good question . Men like me ask women like you what a perfect man is to you so that we can be better men suited twords women . So I figured turn it arround . sounded like a good Idea , so far it seems as though women don't really want to acheive much for themselves as a women . To me this question is more about a womens self image of herself and I have heard a few good comments so far (from the women smart enough to understand the question) , but not too many .

roglol1973

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What are signs that show if a woman has low self esteem Posted: 7/13/2007 10:55:49 PM
I agree with the fact that you cann't tell until you get close . That too is also the pitfall to the whole deal . I do know some signs though . The one lady asked what definition I was talking about . I believe that it is all the same . The little girl who grows up to believe that to be smart you have to be beautiful . The over weight girl who loses weight yet still feels overweight . The women that believes she dosen't amount to anything and the women who feels that 200 dollars worth of make up will make her better . The girl who benges and purges or over eats . Its all the same to me .

roglol1973

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What are signs that show if a woman has low self esteem Posted: 6/17/2007 1:13:10 AM
I posted a thread here lately , asking women what they felt the perfect woman would be and I was amazed by the outcome of the posts' . Allot of women were pretty upset about it and didn't say anything mean about me , yet you could hear it in their writing . Some though , were pretty amazing women , who said allot of good positive things' . I wonder if women know much about them self sometimes . I know some do , not allot though . So her go's . How can you tell when a women has low self esteem ?

roglol1973

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What is the perfect women ? Posted: 6/17/2007 12:46:07 AM
I don't know , I have read all of your profiles and I fell in love with one of you . Too bad you don't talk to men under 35 though . You had good things to say . I believe all women who are confident in them self are perfect . Isn't perfection nothing more than progress any way . I felt allot of hate about the question , but that only shows the insecurities' that most women caring inside . And Canadians' are close to perfection either (lol) .

roglol1973

Joined: 9/28/2006

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Going out with an old fling from when you were younger Posted: 6/9/2007 2:13:07 AM
So HELP!! What should I do!!! Relationships like the one you want , is what happened to me . Trust me , they end bad sounds' more like obsession than anything meaningful . Restraining order , remember that . Fantasies' don't work out , and we friek , don't set yourself up , and hold the old memories' close . If you get into a new relationship with this women and things don't work out , Those memories' are gone forever .

roglol1973

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What is the perfect women ? Posted: 6/9/2007 1:53:30 AM
I was thinking the other day about what I would consider the perfect women , and what I think most men consider the perfect women , then a thought crossed my mind on here . Why don't ask the POF women what the perfect women is , I bet they would have some interesting comments' , so here it is . Women , in your point of view , what is the perfect women . What is it that you would want to be , looks , appearance , attitude , features , what ever it is let me know ?

roglol1973

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Why men wont date independant women Posted: 6/9/2007 1:46:09 AM
The trick is , to be more observant . There are independent women , yet there are women also who say they are independent , yet they have baggage from the past in reality . All women are different . Independent women in my opinion , are women who want to take care of their own needs' , who don't depend on others' and aren't emotionally clinging to another person . Some women though , claim to be independent , yet they are codependent . They become anti-dependent , saying that they will never depend on another human being ever again , yet again , they are depending on another human being emotionally to do what they should have been doing in the first place .

roglol1973

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Midgets with tails, am I small minded ? Posted: 6/9/2007 1:33:51 AM
I think that is weird that you mentioned this because I had a conversation about this before . There is something about midgets that is awesome . Everyone knows that laughing or talking down to midgets is bad . They don't like it , and they are sensitive to it . Yet isn't midget's funny as heck . I like watching slap stick comedy about midgets getting knocked around , I laugh my head off , yet I wouldn't talk about it to a midget . Minni Me is the bomb . I think laughing at midgets is healthy and constructive if used as a positive tool to benifit my own selfish desires and help me feel as though I am more of a man . Don't know any hot midgets though , can't help you there .

roglol1973

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older women younger men Posted: 6/9/2007 1:22:59 AM
I dont know about what I was hearing in this trhread , I was in the longest relationship of my life with an older women . She was in her 50's too . I was in my 30's . It didn't work out becuase of my drinking , not my understanding , or my tolerance . I was the one who messed that relationship up . I think the real problem is that our priorities were differant . She was an older women and her habits were set . She woke up in the morning , watched the traffic and weather report , and off to work she would go . I on the other hand had just finished my long night of doing my own thing (Sound familiar) and was never too responsible myself . I went thrue jobs' left and right where she worked three jobs' her whole life and never got fired . She was just more responcible than me , and that was it . Today though , I can honestly say that she knows me better than anyone else too . Thats a tough call , I know the relationship didn't work out , but it was still worth it . I like the feeling of older women , and the fact that they actually give a @#$% . Instead of the younger ones . Who think of prince charming and how their life is going to be amazing , and they are going to be swept off their feet to a castle , and lifes going to be perfect . Or the , "Did you see Tara , her hair was so bad , Oh my God " . Grew out of that a long time ago .

roglol1973

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Poems ( Not So Happy Not So Sad "LIFE") Posted: 6/4/2007 4:41:47 AM
Regret Life gets rough , Sometimes scary . I surrender to God , Becuase I know my load he'll carry . Trying to live by principals'. Stuffing my emotions'. Living life according to a lie . Insane thoughts' and notions' . Heartache when we argue , Heartbreak from the past . I want to feel . The feelings' aren't there. I feel pain . Emotions' churn in dispair . My thoughts' become insane . Selfish or Selflish . What can I be ? Anger or Love . If I give myself to you , What becomes of me . Mother of my child , Young Love I thought . Anguish and Pain , Thats all it brought . Trying to do the right thing . Bad things happen . What will life bring . The hurt and the pain . Sadness consumes me . Drives' me insane . I'm not what I thought I was . My mind scatted , Dazed , Confused . Baffled by the days' . Ideas' of the past shattered . Weeping in Self Pitty . Comprimise , Responsibility . Not to Smart nor Wise . I've lost all hope it seems . Gave up the past for a future , Lost that though . No ambitions or dreams' . Where now shall I go . Lost in what I did that day . All of me sucked out in one moment . Lost , Confused , Full of dismay . Paranoia and anxiety return . Hate for myself , Forever it seems to burn . Pain over my actions' , Guilt for what I've done . Anguish , Missery , What have I begun ! I talk to others , I tell on myself . Seeing what I use to be . Seeing what I am today . Ended up looking at me . Nothing left to say . Guilt , Shame , Remorse Feeling dead to the world . Living without a pulse . My thoughts' frayed and curled . Emotionally bankrupt , they say . What dose that mean ? Still not want to play . solutions' remain unseen . Hopeless , Helpless , Lost Expectations' , Dreams' . Pain , Misery , torcher , trechery . The heart breaks down . The world becomes a prison . Hollow inside , It seems . Feelings' I hide . Nothings there today . Like a thief in the night . Sneaking up on me . I'll sleep all day . It attacks without a fight . Vary hard to see . Take medicine they say . Take it day by day . Helps me work , Helps me talk , Helps me play , What a perk . God slowly fades away . Serenity comes at times , When I'm sitting still . Get up , Move around . Get up , Take a pill . Sunshine , Butterfly s' , Green grass , Golden days' , real or unnatural , Beauty in a gaze . Sometimes it's a good day . Sometimes life's a maize . Loosing all my dreams' . Living in the day . Living in the now . Thats what they say . All I want to know , Is how ! My body is a disease . No comfort , Only pain , Hurting , Without ease . All efforts' in vain . Still learning how to do it . Distractions' occur . Don't get upset . realities a blur . Maladjusted desires' , dysfunctional habits' , Raging fires' . God steps in , Takes it all away . Leaving me with a new life to begin . Living day by day . Trying to live God's way . Trying to . Day by day , inch by inch . Like a kid who's lost his toy . Emotions' within the day . Can't tell the true from the false . A scared frieghten boy . Wants' , Needs' , Necessities' , What I get , God shall feed . What will be , will be . Didn't understand that once . Now I do . Now I see. Roger Hanson Saturday May 12, 2007 - 12:31pm (CDT)

roglol1973

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Sober and Dating Posted: 6/4/2007 4:01:25 AM
One problem that I have had for last four years' was dating . I've been clean and sober of drugs / alcohol for just short of four year June the 18 th will make it officially four years' . My problem though , is that most women want to go to clubs' and bars and hang out , which I no longer do . Actually , even when I was drinking I never really went to bars . I was the going to parties' or having a party , and drinking at home kind of person . Any how , when I tell women that I don't drink and go to night clubs' its like I've become the plaige . Nobody seems to want anything to do with me , unless they ask for a ride to the bar . Then I take them to the bar and drop them off . I've even taken poeple to the liquor store to pick themselves up some booze . My question is why is it that women don't like that , and is there really any women out there who actually tired of the fast life , and are ready to slow down . Not necessarily settle down , but slow down .

roglol1973

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Why is it so hard for women to talk to men Posted: 6/4/2007 3:45:45 AM
Because we are afraid of you , we are unaccountable , we don't smell all that good , and we only talk about sex . When ever we talk to you , our tunges' swell up and we begin to studder allot . When we kiss you we forget to breathe so we are always gasping for breathe , and our hearts are racing . We sweat while we around you , so we are constantly sneaking around smelling our arm pits behind your back . Which , by the way , is so unappealing to you . I hope that helps out .

roglol1973

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Where did all the Ladies' from Evansville Indiana Go ? Posted: 6/4/2007 3:39:20 AM
I heard all the women talking about where all the men from Indiana at , so I'm asking where all the women from Evansville Indiana at . They all disappeared I guess . I left to go to Illinois and when I came back , they were all gone . At least the good looking ones that are my age . I guess they moved to another town , or they are all hiding out over in Henderson Kentucky , with their cousins' from down south yaunder . Anyhow , I wanted to just waste some letters so that I could get this on here . I have to have , about two hundred words at least . Hopefully this is enough . Where did you go ?

roglol1973

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should sex be talked about on the first date ? Posted: 6/4/2007 3:22:02 AM
I think it would be nice to go ahead and lay your cards on the table. Find out how kinky the other person is, and see if it matches your level of kink! I saw this and it was something I could relate to . I had a conversation about that once and a guy was actually honest enough at the time to tell me the most profound truth about it . He said its not that we are all necessarily shy or Prudy about our sexuality . Its that we are all mostly full of shame . We are told what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable , and no matter how hard we try not to , we hold ourself to those standards . He claims that its actually our fear of ourself that cause us to talk about the darker side of our sexual side . Those dark fantasies' that we have hidden in the back of our minds' . Don't know , when I heard the comment , I remembered that conversation . Figured I would tell it . This has been a good thread so far , so I'm not going to ruin it . I also got spell check finally Ha rah .

roglol1973

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Going out with an old fling from when you were younger Posted: 6/4/2007 3:06:00 AM
Thanks for the sapport , sometimes though it get on my conscience . Greatly appreciated .

roglol1973

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should sex be talked about on the first date ? Posted: 6/2/2007 1:08:56 AM
So far , I have figured out that women don't like to talk about sex on the first date , and if I do talk about sex , I should quickly change the subject to show her that its not the only thing on my mind . I once heard that women think of three things before they ever think about sex . Thats Chocolate , Jewelry and gardening .

roglol1973

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Love vs. Security Posted: 6/2/2007 12:51:43 AM
Please don't stray from the topic ladies and gentlement . I do use that term loosely . I said it is a two way street . and if you would pay attention to the focus of the topic , its a debate about how women only want money . Well , how about the man who is an insecure little child , and needs a women to keep him secure . Honey run and pay the electric , honey , run and pay the water . Why weren't you there , and don't you still love me . Men tend to be emotionally insecure . I feel that way , and Im a man . I also believe that it comes with experience , in relationships and young women do tend to look for that financial security . And young women do tend to become arm candy if they look decent . A guy got on here and said it best though , It takes a real women to stick around when the fantasy is over and the bills' start coming in .

roglol1973

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Going out with an old fling from when you were younger Posted: 6/2/2007 12:39:38 AM
Its weird how all of you had said a little part of what I went threw , and I am still going threw today . I remember brooding over my old fling Tracey for a long time . It was fast to when we first met . She was pregnant with her first boy , Billy , and I had my wild ideas' running in my head as well . She left me for Billy's real father though , and I found out that she married threw the newspaper in the small town I was living in . It tore me apart , and for years I too , thought that some day , we would get together . That is where me and that one guys story separates though . Like the girl just before this said , me and her was a couple of bumbling drunks acting the fool . I sobered up since then and I now see that I changed allot and she didn't . She still loves to drink , and she also loves to sleep around . You can't turn a whore into a house wife ya know . Any how , I ended up sobering up and going to A.A. , I worked the twelve steps and ended up going to her to make an amends that I found out later , I never should have made . I didn't do any harm to her it seemed . In my head though , I felt I did and that is what caused the problem . The first time I saw her , I was fine , nothing happened . Then one night I was alone and it was valentines night . I lived in Evansville Indiana , and decided to drive all the way over to Illinois to see her . I went over , and my car broke down before I got there . I went to my sister's that night , pulled my car to my sister's house the next day , and went to Tracey's house that night . Needless to say we had sex that night and for the next three weeks I would travel from Evansville to Illinois , until one night after the first three weeks , she becomes pregnant . I knew that she had just gotten out of a relationship with a guy named Sean , like , two weeks before being with me . But I let that go because I really liked her . Then she started drinking allot around me , and I was trying to stay sober . Then she started smoking pot around me . Things started getting bad . She was picking her kid up drunk , and High all the time from school . I would go back to Evansville to work , and she would call up the convenient store that I worked at , all drunk and being belligerent . The final straw was this . She and I broke up , I was feeling bad about not being with her so I talked to her and we decided that I would drive over to my sister's house in Illinois , meet and go to the park to talk things out . I couldn't though , so she got mad and slept with one of my sister's friends out of spite . that was it for me . I blew a gasket yet , I still tried to work things out until finally , I got in trouble . The next thing you know I'm in jail for pushing her , and she tried to get a restraining order on me . I got out of jail after ten days' and never returned to her house again , she met with me after the baby was born , said that she didn't want my name on the birth certificate , but I could get a bank account for her and the baby . when ever she needs something all she would have to do is go to the bank and get it . The baby didn't get my last name , and I wasn't on the birth certificate , so I told her I couldn't do that without a blood test . Needless to say , she left not too happy . I never saw or spoke to her since . That whole experience has made me look at myself , and see who I was and what I am still capable of still today . I'm not proud of what I had to do , but I had to do it . In my opinion I destroyed the best relationship I ever had by getting into another one with the same girl twice . I not only did that but the truth of the matter is , I will some day possibly have to face that child and tell him I am sorry . I can't believe the pain that I have caused because of loneliness .l

roglol1973

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Going out with an old fling from when you were younger Posted: 5/25/2007 8:40:17 PM
I went back out with a girl , that I was seeing when I was about 19 or 20 , and it turned out to be the worse experience I had ever gone through . I used it as a learning experience though , and moved on . I knew her when I was younger , and thought that she was a completely differant person than what she was . May she was that person , maybe time changed her , I don't know , but it ruined the memories' that I had of both of us toghether back then . Thats why I think dating old girlfriends from my past won't happen agian .

roglol1973

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Love vs. Security Posted: 5/25/2007 8:00:39 PM
it’s more the way they were raised with the Ideal man sweeping them off their feet or the Barbie dream date at the door. Over time however that romantic image fades and reality sets in. Now Mr. Perfect has lost his job and having a difficult time finding another. Or his long term financial prospects are not that good. Suddenly they are looking at their girlfriends relationships and they begin to compare. Then the decline starts because they come to the realization that the man they married may never be able to give them the lifestyle they imagined they would have when they were young. They start asking themselves the question “Is this all there is?” Fear sets in and a decision has to be made. Stay with them for love leave them for security. I wanted to add this to get some of the post off of my profile . I am ashamed of some of the comments I have made . I need to watch myself on that . I like this comment that was what I was talking about just now , this is truth , nothing more , nothing less . Right on the nose . Asking this question in the beginning of a relationship is worthless with all the wide eyed anticipation of a new beginning and expectations for the future. Ask that same question to a woman who has been married and over 45 you’ll find love wins out in most cases. I don't know about this part yet , but this is wisdom to me , and I don't know it either , I think experience is where this part comes into play . I couldn't even respond to this comment , so I believe I will leave it up to experienced men to comment for me . Thumbs up mister , you have all my respect .

roglol1973

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should sex be talked about on the first date ? Posted: 5/25/2007 7:47:53 PM
I'm amazed with the outcome of this topic . I knew it would be a good one , yet this is the best I've ever posted so far . I have heard allot of good comments , and I thought I would . Just didn't think I would get as much input as what I have gotten so far .

roglol1973

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Love vs. Security Posted: 5/25/2007 7:38:24 PM
I like the fact that you said balance , I think thats important too . I also like what the guy earlier said too , I think hes right experience shows . Let the two go thrue a little hard times for a few years and see what happens . I know wisdom when I hear it . I feel though that these days that isn't being practriced anymore though . Experience is the key it seems' and I also believe that values are lost these days' . It happened gradually over time .

roglol1973

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Love vs. Security Posted: 5/24/2007 2:44:58 AM
I enjoyed a womens point of view on this it was interesting . I don't know , allot of the women I meet arround here , ( in the midwest) seem to mix those two up . I do think that security is a false sence though , not to intelectual about it though . From experience as a truck driver though , I know thats true . On the road , while climbing the mountain especially . You seem to get a real sence of grattitude and what God really means . That feeling of security only comes thrue what has been tuaght to me and not from any independant thought . I know out there , once I start feeling secure , something is going to go wrong . I don't know how that relates to the topic , it probably dosen't , but it came to mind reading that .

roglol1973

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should sex be talked about on the first date ? Posted: 5/24/2007 2:37:05 AM
Saw the topic being brought up on television and thought it would be a good topic on here . Interesting at least . I don't know exactly how to approach that one , just thought that it was interesting becuase I know that most poeple don't talk about what to say or not to say when on a date concerning sex . If I was to approach a women about having sex , what would the appropriate time be I wonder .

roglol1973

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Ex-Pics: Posted: 5/24/2007 1:14:34 AM
sounds like you are just looking for a reason to break them up... could there be some jealousy there? This is what you don't listen to , this girl is a concerned friend . The world should have more of those . Still , don't cross the line though . Know you limits and just be a friend , don't go in like a blazing cowgirl with both guns' ready to fire . Wait and let her hang herself , and she will .

roglol1973

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Why do colledge chicks gossip yet are good in bed and older women don't and are more into relations Posted: 5/24/2007 12:51:30 AM
Didn't mean to offend the older women and I really couldn't handle a visit to the beauty salon to be honest with you .

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