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BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Manners among the over 45 yr. old Posted: 3/1/2009 12:24:34 PM
I found this on a site, just thought this might be a good refresser course for some of the ladies on this thread. Manners For Women Part One--As a Single Woman http://www.literary-liaisons.com/article031.html by Michelle J. Hoppe It matters not whether a lady has a title in order to be called a gentlewoman. Rather, a lady is identified by her behavior. Manners are a compound of spirit and form, and should be part of the education of every person of whatever calling or station in life. They know no social boundaries. True courtesy is the basis of all social conduct and can be learned by all. "Kindness of heart, of nobleness and of courage it true politeness of manner." So what, then is a gentlewoman? And how does this translate into manners? Let's start at the beginning.... Childhood A girl learns proper manners early on. The list is endless, from how and when to curtsey, to how to laugh. The laugh, like one's voice, is a test of good breeding and cultivation. It expresses refinement in its intonation. A lady's laugh should be short and unassuming. Young ladies should also learn to cultivate their memories and learn to express themselves freely so as to be able to converse well. Adulthood General Appearance Here are just a few of the things a lady must keep in mind: · In walking, a woman's feet should be moderately turned out, the steps should be equal, firm and light. She should avoid a rapid pace, just as she should avoid a slow gait. And never should she shake from side to side when she walks. · Proper young ladies do not indulge in cosmetics, hair-dyes or other forms of insincerity in personal appearance. · Ladies do not wear pearls or diamonds in the morning. Chaperonage An unmarried young woman, up to the age of thirty, must always accompanied by a chaperone when she goes out. This is to ensure that she is innocent, and to compel others to respect her innocence. It is the chaperone's duty to investigate the background and social standing of bachelors who come into the girl's orbit and keep at bay those who do not pass muster. Who could chaperone? Only married women could act as chaperones. An unmarried woman could not be alone in a room with a male visitor, even in her own home. Nor could she go anywhere with a man to whom she was not related unless a married gentlewoman or servant accompanied her. The only possible exception to act as chaperone was a governess who, being of genteel birth, was known to be respectable, but represented no matrimonial competition because of her lowly status. Introductions A lady should always grant permission for an introduction, unless there is a strong reason for refusing. When a lady is introduced to a gentleman, she should bow but not give her hand, unless the gentleman is a well-known friend of some member of the family. She may do so as a mark of esteem or respect. A gentleman must not offer to shake hands with a lady until she has made the first movement. The kiss is the most affectionate form of salutation, but is only proper among near relations and dear friends. It is given on the cheeks or forehead, and rarely in the public eye. Paying Calls Under no circumstances could a lady call on a gentleman alone unless she is consulting that gentleman on a professional or business matter. At the beginning of the Victorian Era, so long as a girl was unmarried and living at home, she had no separate visiting card. This changed by the end of the century. Should she have no mother, the card would bear her own name, along with her sisters if she has some. If a female chaperone is in residence, this woman's name would appear above the girl's name on the card. Conversations A good talker should be possessed of much general information, acquired by keen observation, attentive listening, a good memory, and logical habits of thought. Simplicity and terseness are characteristics of a well-educated lady. She never uses vulgarisms, flippancy, coarseness, triviality or provocation in her speech. Scandal is the least excusable of all conversational vulgarities. A lady is sympathetic, unselfish and animating in her listening. To show any interest in the immediate concerns of people is very complimentary. She must maintain cheerful conversation. Religion and politics should never be introduced into conversation, for they are dangerous subjects to harmony. In addressing persons with titles, always add the name, as in 'Dr. Smith,' never merely 'Doctor.' Use the Christian name only for those who are relations or intimate friends. A lady never interrupts the speech of others, nor does she discuss private matters in public. A lady avoids all exhibitions of temper before others. Whether grief or joy, emotions should be subdued in public and only allowed full play in private apartments. Dinner Parties and Receptions In a private dance, a lady cannot refuse to dance with any gentleman who invites her unless she has a previous engagement. However, at public balls, a lady should dance only with gentlemen of her own party, or those with whom she has a previous acquaintance. Young ladies must be careful how they refuse to dance. She should give a good reason, lest the gentleman takes it as a personal dislike. Once a lady refuses, a gentleman should not urge her to dance, nor should the lady accept another invitation for the same dance. An unattached lady never dances more than three dances with the same partner. A lady is never seen in a ball-room without gloves. They must be white or of a very delicate hue. In the Street A true gentlewoman can be distinguished at first glance. There is a quiet self-possession about her that marks her out from the florid lower classes. Self-effacement is the rule of good manners. A gentlewoman goes quietly along, intent on her own business. She walks quietly through the streets, seeing and hearing nothing that she ought not to see and hear. She recognizes acquaintances with a courteous bow, and friends with words of greeting. She never talks loudly, or laughs boisterously or does anything to attract the attention of passers-by. A lady, meeting a gentleman with whom she has an acquaintance, shall give the first bow of recognition. A young lady should never 'cut' a married lady. It is the privilege of age to recognize those who are younger in years. A lady never forms an acquaintance upon the street, or seeks to attract the attention or admiration of persons of the opposite sex. A lady never looks back after anyone in the street, or turns to stare in a public place. She should never walk alone in the street after dark. She keeps from contact with her neighbor in public conveyances as much as is possible, never leaning up against another or spreading her arms. She may accept the offer of services from a stranger in alighting from, or entering a conveyance, and should acknowledge the courtesy. So what is a true gentlewoman? She is "an emanation from the heart subtilized by culture." Sources: "Manners for Women", by Mrs. Humphry, a facsimile reproduction of an 1897 publication. Reprinted by Pryor Publications, Kent, England,1993.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Manners among the over 45 yr. old Posted: 3/1/2009 12:23:31 AM
islade58, Right On Brother! The world has changed in the past 40 - 50 years. Norms from back then are history. Women use to respect men and men use to respect women. Now, women don't have any respect for men, so why should men have any respect for women? Ok, Ladies, how many of you put n your profiles that your are a LADY? Please tell me, how is a lady to act? There use to be norms for ladies. However, I have not seen a woman act like a lady for years. I ask, when was the last time anyone has seen a female curtsie when they are introduced to a man? For that matter, when is the last time you seen a woman in a dress or skirt? Now Ladies, be honest, have you taught your daughters to curtsie? How many dresses/skirts do you ladies own? The ladies have disapeared in our American society and so has the gentelmen. I use to be a perfect gentelman 35 years ago (in the 70's). When I went out on a date, I always got dressed up in a suit, brought flowers, was polite when I met their parents, helped her with her coat, held the door open for her, took them to a nice restruant and then a play or movie, then rushed to open the door for her, walked her to her door, give her a short kiss and went home without expecting sex and called her the next day. Do you think I got any respect back from any woman? Heck no! That was when I was younger. I've learned since then. It doesn't pay. The guy that goes "Yo! B_tch!" gets more women than any guy who acts like a gentelman. Thinking back, out of all the women that I have dated (and I've use to date alot), non of them wore a dress or skirt on the date. They all wore blue jeans or other type of pants. I didn't us to believe it when guyes use to tell me, but I've found out that it is true. If you treat a woman nice, they will think of you as a friend and start treating you like crap. If you treat them like SH&T, they will fall in love with you. It is a fact. I've seen it happen thousands of times. It's a game guys have to play to get the girl. If you don't play that game, you will loose. The only woman who guys should treat like a lady is their mother. If you females want a man to act like a gentelman, you need to start acting like a lady. I have learned from experience.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Mannors among the over 45 yr. old Posted: 2/24/2009 12:46:34 AM
I believe that others would say that I have manners. I normally say please and thank you. I always call people who I don’t know their name either “Sir or “Ma’am”. My table manners do vary, depending if I am home alone or with others. However, I do not hold doors open for females, I hold doors open for people. I hold doors open for: · The elderly, · The Handicap, · Those who have their hands full, · Those who are going through the same door right after me. · If there are two doors and a person holds the door open for me, I’ll return the action by holding the door open for them. If a female happens to fit in one of the above categories, then I’ll hold the door open for her, if not, O’well. I have had several females hold the door open for me and I always say “thank you” and try to get to the next door to hold the door open for them to repay the courtesy. Oh, wait, I do the same for a male. I am not a sexist. If I pull the chair out for a female, I expect her to pull the chair out for me the next time. Ha! Ha! I know that would never happen, so I just don’t pull the chair out for anyone unless they are old, handicap or young and needs assistance. For those females who have a problem with this, I ask you, if I would to pull the chair out on a date for a female, what is she suppose to do to show courtesy towards me? If a female does not like my Non-Sexist attitude, that’s their problem, for I have burned my Jock Strap! And, no, I do not hate women. I just do not like double standards, women who hate men and women who demand “Equal Rights” but expect a man to “Pull the chair out for them”. ****** Does anyone know if Sarah Palin has a sister? Go Sarah!!! Now she’s a LADY! (she doesn’t hate men)

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Need advice on a custody issue in ohio Posted: 11/29/2008 8:40:27 AM
Bud, I feel for you. After had gone through a similar situation, I seriously suggest two things. 1.) You need to know what the laws in Ohio says in black and white. You need to read it yourself. Go to you local law library and ask the librarian for the location for books on “Ohio Divorce Law”/”Family Law”. You are not going to read the whole book, look at the table of contents and the index. Look at them and pick one or two of them. Look on the Internet and purchase the book(s) that you choose (they may cost but they will be worth it because these are the same books that your attorney are using to find out what they know). Read these books yourself (don’t be intimidated because they are Law Books, the one that I bought is written at high school level). Also, ask the librarian for “OJ3”, which is a set of books on legal issues in Ohio. Look for the volumes on “Family Law”. OJ3 is easy to read. You are not going to read the whole book, look at the table of contents and the index. Take some change along so you can copy some pages. 2.) Get yourself a female attorney. * A lot of men are sympatric towards women. · A lot of men have macho issues and feel that they have to protect women (including your ex) from everything (including you) to prove that they are a man. · A lot of guys still think that a woman should stay at home with the kids and the husband should be nothing more than a paycheck that supports them. * Some guys remember their poor deprived mother who struggled to take care of him while their drunken no good father was never around therefore stereo typing every guy as no good. This is very true with male Judges and male Attorneys. I had a male attorney for over a year, who did nothing except take my money. From day one, my son wanted to live with me. The attorney that the judge appointed my son was in favor of my son living with me. The Judge was in favor of my son living with me. With all this in my favor, my male attorney still did nothing except go to court every month and charge me for it. Then I fired my male attorney and got a female attorney. Within two weeks things changed. Within four weeks, my ex was agreeing to everything. Within six weeks, everything was finalized in my son and my favor. By the end of the second month, my son was living with me. Female attorneys worked hard to get where they are at. They fought hard for equal rights. Female attorneys don’t like whiney women who use their gender to get what they want. Female attorneys don’t like women who portray, “Feel sorry for me, I’m a female” image. Female attorneys don’t like women who sets the Equal Rights Movement back 50 years for their own greed. Male attorneys tend to feel sorry for females and don’t put forth the effort to fight for a man’s rights. Due to the sexism that I have found with male attorneys, I highly recommend that guys get a female attorney to represent them in court on family matters. 3.) Don't listen to want-to-be attorneys. Either read it yourself from REAL legal books on Ohio law of get a good female attorney. My ex's legal advisor from her work knew all about it, she graduated from Oprah University ("I know all about it, I seen it on Oprah!").

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Can he get full time custody just because of a couple of bad grades? Posted: 11/29/2008 7:52:54 AM
Your post brings up some questions that I would like to ask you. Other than your anatomy, what makes you a better parent than your child’s biological father? Do you feel that the world should feel sorry for you because you are a female? Why are you and most women still sexist on the issue of what gender makes the best parent?

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Any guys successful in getting ex-Mom to pay child support? Posted: 11/29/2008 7:42:29 AM
Get yourself a female attorney. * A lot of men are sympatric towards women. · A lot of men have macho issues and feel that they have to protect women (including your ex) from everything (including you) to prove that they are a man. · A lot of guys still think that a woman should stay at home with the kids and the husband should be nothing more than a paycheck that supports them. * Some guys remember their poor deprived mother who struggled to take care of him while their drunken no good father was never around therefore stereo typing every guy as no good. This is very true with male Judges and male Attorneys. I had a male attorney for over a year, who did nothing except take my money. From day one, my son wanted to live with me. The attorney that the judge appointed my son was in favor of my son living with me. The Judge was in favor of my son living with me. With all this in my favor, my male attorney still did nothing except go to court every month and charge me for it. Then I fired my male attorney and got a female attorney. Within two weeks things changed. Within four weeks, my ex was agreeing to everything. Within six weeks, everything was finalized in my son and my favor. By the end of the second month, my son was living with me. Female attorneys worked hard to get where they are at. They fought hard for equal rights. Female attorneys don’t like whiney women who use their gender to get what they want. Female attorneys don’t like women who portray, “Feel sorry for me, I’m a female” image. Female attorneys don’t like women who sets the Equal Rights Movement back 50 years for their own greed. Male attorneys tend to feel sorry for females and don’t put forth the effort to fight for a man’s rights. Due to the sexism that I have found with male attorneys, I highly recommend that guys get a female attorney to represent them in court on family matters.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Would you have your child's other parent over for Christmas? Posted: 11/29/2008 7:30:17 AM
It all depends: Do you know what the Christmas Holliday Spirit means? Do you care about your child’s happiness? Are you self-centered?

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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When to allow dad to take daughter alone Posted: 11/29/2008 7:24:48 AM
Lady, you need Professional HELP! I feel sorry for your child and her father.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Mothers paying child support, am I missing something? Posted: 11/29/2008 7:18:29 AM
Get yourself a female attorney. * A lot of men are sympatric towards women. * A lot of men have macho issues and feel that they have to protect women (including your ex) from everything (including you) to prove that they are a man. * A lot of guys still think that a woman should stay at home with the kids and the husband should be nothing more than a paycheck that supports them. * Some guys remember their poor deprived mother who struggled to take care of him while their drunken no good father was never around therefore stereo typing every guy as no good. This is very true with male Judges and male Attorneys. I had a male attorney for over a year, who did nothing except take my money. * From day one, my son wanted to live with me. * The attorney that the judge appointed my son was in favor of my son living with me. * The Judge was in favor of my son living with me. With all this in my favor, my male attorney still did nothing except go to court every month and charge me for it. Then I fired my male attorney and got a female attorney. Within two weeks things changed. Within four weeks, my ex was agreeing to everything. Within six weeks, everything was finalized in my son and my favor. By the end of the second month, my son was living with me. Female attorneys worked hard to get where they are at. They fought hard for equal rights. Female attorneys don’t like whiney women who use their gender to get what they want. Female attorneys don’t like women who portray, “Feel sorry for me, I’m a female” image. Female attorneys don’t like women who sets the Equal Rights Movement back 50 years for their own greed. Male attorneys tend to feel sorry for females and don’t put forth the effort to fight for a man’s rights. Due to the sexism that I have found with male attorneys, I highly recommend that guys get a female attorney to represent them in court on family matters.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Middle Aged Cheap Skates.... Posted: 10/26/2008 2:35:24 PM
Takmeaziam, Thank you for responding. After reading your profile, I only wish that I lived in California instead of 1,800 miles away. In fact, after reading your profile, I would love to take you out to dinner and wouldn’t mind paying for it because I’m sure I would enjoy the talk. What we disagree on, if really anything, it sounds like we would both enjoy talking about it. It sound like you are a nice lady and I enjoy treating ladies like ladies. One thing that I do strongly disagree with you on, is that you say that you are old. You are ONLY 50 and you are in the prime of your life. So stop thinking that you are old. Moving on, -------------------- I, like many other guys that I know, are tired of men being treated like just “Paychecks.” Yes, this is a forum, where people express their opinions. This should also be a place where we learn from each other. Over the years, I have heard many women complain about many things such as ERA, equal pay, spouse abuse and I do understand and in most cases agree with women. Now it is time to for you ladies to hear some gripes that men have. The main one being: A lot of men, if not most men, are tired of being treated as “Just a Paycheck”. If the shoe was on the other foot, I’m sure most women would complain. As women have complained and marched in the streets about issues that they felt were unfair, men should also have the rights to complain about issues that they feel are unfair to them. I know that too many men are deadbeat fathers, however, those fathers who really love their children should have equal rights in family courts, but they don’t. As in the past when women did not like being treated like their husbands property, men now do not like to be treated as if they were “Just a Paycheck“. As women have stood up and fought for the ERA and now for “Equal Pay” (of which I am not against), I feel that men should stand up and fight for injustice against men. However, some women don’t like this and are strongly against it. I say, “A man should have a Choice if he wants to pay for the lady’s half of the cost of the first (Blind) date”. Women should not DEMMAND! that a man pay for her half of the cost of the first (Blind) date. I think I have found the poster child for the Men’s Rights Movement: “A man who expects a woman to compete for him will end up w/ a low-self-esteem woman. A woman who allows the man to compete & treat her nicely is not a gold-digger-she is just aware of her intrinsic worth.” -------------------- GreenEyesBlondeHair I am glad that you are proud that you graduated from a community college. That reminds me, I us to teach at a community college for awhile. Now after taking several years time out of my busy life to take care of my son and elderly parent (which has cost me a cash flow problem and which I didn’t mind) I am now getting back into my profession where I should be making over $100,000. So, GreenEyesBlondeHair, please don’t stay up nights waiting for this gentleman to respond to your profile. ---------------- I know what my intrinsic worth is and it is obvious what some people’s worth really is and I am not talking about financial worth. If a woman doesn't support a man when he is down, she is not worth supporting when the man gets back up. Think about it ladies.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Middle Aged Cheap Skates.... Posted: 10/25/2008 6:31:24 AM
Good by everybody from 1958. I’m going back to the real world in 2008! I enjoy my life without you.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Middle Aged Cheap Skates.... Posted: 10/25/2008 6:26:48 AM
So you don’t think a man is worth investing $2.50 to see if you would like him? Why are you so sexist?

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

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Middle Aged Cheap Skates.... Posted: 10/25/2008 6:00:28 AM
Takmeaziam ------- Me -------- I was the perfect gentleman. Back in the 1970’s, when I was in my teens and early 20’s, working part-time @ $2/hr., while going to college, when ever I’d go out on a first or any date, I’d always show up in my 3 piece suit, sometimes with flowers, take her out to a stake dinner, to the movies, and then some place afterwards like a night club or a pizza place to talk and never expecting to get sex from her afterwards. However, most of the women back then would go after the guys with the motorcycle, the hot fast car or the guy who would pass them a joint. Some of women preferred going back to there ex who had beaten her before. I have never known a man who’s wife supported him. I financially supported my ex and her daughter for ten years while my ex (a women’s libber) gave me lectures everyday of how rotten men were and how she had choices. She chose to be a stay at home wife while I wanted her to go back to work. She also chose not to do any housework because that would be sexist and demeaning to her. All while I still financially supported the whole family. I had a very successful management career until my ex and I split up and I decided to put my son first and set aside my career. For 8 years, I was working two part-time jobs, (two 12 hr. shifts on the weekends and 20+ hrs during the week days) while taking care of my son during the week and taking my elderly mother (who lived 60 miles away) to the doctors during a weekday once a week. Then, for the last three years, I commuted 60 miles six days a week while I was the Full-time Primary Caregiver for my elderly widowed mother while still caring for my teenage son (cooking, washing clothes and being there for him). So, ladies, I have put family first and I don’t have the time or money to play with any Gold Digger or a woman who is stuck back in 1958 and who wants me to financially support her. ------------------------ Let me first say that I live in 2008 and not in 1958. Too many people on this site are still living in 1958. (This is probably why I get along with younger women a lot more than I do with women in my own age group). However, it is now 2008 and we no longer live in the 1950’s, 1960’s or 1970’s. If you have read any of my previous post, you would know, I do speak my mind. It is the other guys that I see on this site who I feel are not speaking their mind for fear of getting a bad reputation. I have read some posts from guys who even have stated that. For some ladies, I could be the perfect gentleman and for other females, I may not be. I’m not afraid of any woman. If they do not like my opinion, they can kiss my grits. I can out yell and out cuss any woman who think they can get their way by doing so and starts that type of behavior first. I don’t play games. I am for Men’s Rights. I also respect women’s rights. I am Not a wimp around women nor am I P_ssy Whipped like most guys on this site. What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. If a woman is not making as much money for doing the same work as a man, then she should address that issue with her employer and not take it out on her husband or bf and it is not an excuse for her being cheap and demanding that a man be the one who shells out all the money on the first (Blind) date. In 2008, it is not the men who are cheap, it is the Women who are cheap by expecting a man to take them out to spend money on them! I ask you ladies, why can’t a lady take a guy out and spend money on him? I have not and never would say that I expect a woman to pay for my half of the first (Blind) date, just theirs, but some women are still living back in 1958 or are just down right Gold Diggers, so they still and always will persecute me for my opinion. For those ladies who say that they had financially supported their husband, I always wondered what happened to those ladies who fell in love with those guys who passed them a joint. “If a man cares for a woman, he will respect her and take her out to decent places.” = 1958 thinking. Well again ladies, this is 2008 and not 1958. So why, are you ladies expecting 2008 year equal pay rights when you are still expecting a 1958 relationship. This is why most men do not support equal pay rights – because men know that women still expect a 1958 relationship and a marriage (where men financially support women). To me, it is not the issue of money, it is a matter of principle. If a woman expects me to pay for her half of a first (Blind) date, then that tells me that she will expect me (or any man) to continual financially supporting her for the rest of my life. This type of woman, I may have went for back in the 1970’s BUT, it ain’t the 1970’s anymore. It is 2008. Times have changed, I have changed, have you? For women’s information: Usually when a guy wants to pay for all of the first the date, he either: 1.) Expects something in return (like sex). 2.) Has a problem with his manhood and has to pay to make him feel like a man. He probably feels that he has to do other things to continuously prove to himself that he is a man – so watch out! 3.) Is still living back in 1958 with 1958 values, so don’t expect him to support you on any women’s rights issue and don’t be surprised if he expects you to quit your career, stay at home and become barefoot and pregnant or stay in the kitchen where he thinks you belong. What we have here is a Time Warp issue. Women who still thinks it is 1958.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 339 (view)

Middle Aged Cheap Skates.... Posted: 10/25/2008 4:09:40 AM
Lil Brooker, As far as how much it cost for a date, well ladies, try paying for a date yourself and then you will know. It also depends on where you live, what the cost is. In certain parts of the US, it cost two to three times as much for the same date. Where I live in Ohio (which has a lower cost of living than other places), it costs: Applebee’s – average restaurant Minimum: $10.00 each for appetizers $4.50 (during 1/2 price happy hour), Ice tea $2.50 and tip. Average: $25.00 each for a $12.00 meal, two $5 drinks and tip. Most: $35.00 each for $20 meal, two $5 drinks and tip. Men know dating is a competition. He who shows a woman the best time wins. So, if a guy is not cheap, it would cost him around $50 for just an average “meet for dinner date”. If a guy wants to impress a woman, it would cost him around $70 for an impressionable “meet for dinner date”. And this is in a low cost of living area. Now let me remind you, this is for the first (blind date) which most of them don’t go anyplace and a guy knows that if the lady is good, he has to impress her because he knows he has competition, so he feel that to have any chance of seeing her again, he has to impress her and not take the chance of looking like he is cheap, so he goes with the impressionable “meet for dinner date” at $35 each or $70 total. Now this does not include any activity afterwards, such as a movie @ $8 per ticket and $3.50 a drink = about $12 each = $24 total. So now we are talking for an impressionable “meet for dinner” at an average restaurant and “Movie afterwards” date = about $94 total. Now, if this would be a date with a perfect match for the guy that started a wonderful life long relationship, this would be worth it, but chances are it will not be. We are talking about a Blind date. When we know that most people lie on their profile and never write about anything negative about themselves. Some people post pictures of themselves that are over 10 years old. So ladies, please put yourself in a guys place. I have not and never would say that I expect a woman to pay for my half of the first (Blind) date, just theirs, but some women are still living back in 1958 or are just down right Gold Diggers, so they still and always will persecute me for my opinion.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 327 (view)

Middle Aged Cheap Skates.... Posted: 10/24/2008 4:37:49 PM
I like this thread. After over a year on this site, men are finally speaking out against female gold diggers. I have been for along time on this site. Until now, I have only seen one other guy on this site who has ever spoke out against female gold diggers. He had a thread about it and he was bombarded by females calling him every name in the book. They verbally ripped him to pieces. All he wanted to say was that he wanted to go dutch on the first (blind) date. Every time that I mention it, I also get smart ass remarks from women who call me all sorts of awful names (especially this one Spanish female who is a counselor in Florida – she ripped that other guy and me apart like Katrina). I also think the reason that we got so many assaults from women is that a lot of women don’t like a man having an opinion that is in conflict with theirs (remember guys, it is ok for a man to have an opinion as long as the man agrees with the woman). I’m surprised this thread has not been closed due to some woman complaining that men are promoting abuse towards females because the guys on it were requiring women to pay their share of the first (blind) date. That’s abuse! The other issue was that this other guy and I did not get any support from other guys. In fact, there were a lot of guys who responded, but all of them stated that: “I’m a REAL MAN, so I always pay for everything for a woman, no matter what she wants.” The truth was, that you could tell that they did not want to anger the women because they wanted to date them. What guys need to do is get two free accounts on this site. One so they can speak out and tell the truth on how they really feel even though they disagree with some women and anger them. The other account would be used so they look real nice to get dates. I’m so proud of you guys for finally speaking out.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 32 (view)

my boyfriend gives his kids everything they want Posted: 10/24/2008 5:34:04 AM
I ask you, how many women’s profiles on this site say that her children, means more to her than anything else? Well, you have found a man who’s children, means more to him than anything else? I think what you are complaining about is that he does not share the wealth and spoil your kids the same way he spoils his kids. If the shoe were on the other foot, would you share the wealth? Most women won’t even have anything to do with a man who isn’t as financially well off as they are. Would you? He and his ex are financially responsible for his kids and you and your ex are financially responsible for your kids. It sounds like your bf is smart. He dose NOT owe your kids anything, but You and your Ex do. I know in Ohio Case Law, once a stepparent/husband/wife/bf/gf starts buying stuff for their mate’s children and supporting their mate’s children, he/she becomes legally financially responsible for that child. Should they divorce or split up, he/she is legally responsible for child support for those children. (thank god my ex didn’t know that) If a woman expects a man to treat her children like his own, then she should of married a good guy in the first place. There are a lot of good guys out there but they may not have a motorcycle, a hot fast car, or be on cool drugs. You cannot change others, you can only change yourself. If you are unhappy, I suggest that you dump him and look for a guy who is less financially well off than you are, then you won’t have the problem.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 78 (view)

why do men have a big problem with me not wanting to bring them to my house for awhile after we Posted: 10/24/2008 4:35:18 AM
If your place doesn't work for you, then suggest going back to his place or to a motel for the evening. The problem isn't where you and your date have sex, it is that you and your date are not having sex. That is what your date is having the problem with. If you have a problem with men wanting to have sex with you, then simply, stop dating men.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 69 (view)

Would you consider someone a bad parent who spends their CS payments on their partner? Posted: 10/24/2008 4:11:02 AM
YES! YES! YES! I would consider someone a bad parent who spends their CS payments on their partner?

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 110 (view)

Do any dads get child support from the moms Posted: 10/24/2008 4:04:18 AM
Are you kidding? Women pay child support? To a man! Is Santa Clause real? Women complain about not getting every penny owed them for child support by a man, but if the issue of a woman having to pay child support to a man would ever come up, women want everyone to feel sorry for them.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 28 (view)

Guys is this true??? Posted: 10/24/2008 3:51:12 AM
Sounds like silvery20 and her friend are sexist because they think only men feel this way. I would like to here how silvery20's would react if the shoe were on the other foot. If she were a single woman without children, would she be interested in dating and marring a man who had custody of his children? To be fair and not sexist, I would like to see this thread be expanded to refer to bot sexes and not just be another thing for women to complain about men because this issue does apply to both women as well as men. I don’t think it is too much to ask. Silvery20 is right on the issue but wrong for being sexist and thinking that only men think that way. She is wrong for thinking it has anything to do with genetics. For the most part, people’s (and I am referring to both sexes) behavior is a result of what the person learns from others and the person’s experiences in life.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 102 (view)

Why do men only get visitation??? Posted: 10/21/2008 4:23:07 PM
In the American society, single fathers are low life. We are the worst of the worst. We are all sexual predators. We are unable to take care of our children. We are rejected by society and all parts of it. The courts can't wait for a chance to take our children away from us. This is because of four reasons: 1.) Men do not stick together. 2.) A lot of men feel sorry for women because they relate all women to their poor mother (including most male judges and male attorneys). 3.) A lot of men are nice to women because they want to get into their pants. So they will do anything the woman wants. They will sit there, smile and stab another guy in his back in order to please the woman and think that the woman will want them. 4.) Some men are more concerned about their macho image than being a good father. Macho men do not take care of kids – they are men and they beat their chest. Men as a group need to: 1.) Start putting their children first. 2.) Forget about their childish macho image. 3.) Stop putting a piece of tail at a higher priority than seeing their children. 4.) And start sticking together as women did in the N.O.W. If men would do this, then things would change and men would have more rights with their children. Until then, us single fathers will remain as a minority and get shit on everyday for everything we do and don’t do.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 60 (view)

Venting about DeadBeat Parents Posted: 10/21/2008 2:01:54 AM
I had a dead beat wife.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 5 (view)

Pease review...I want opinions Posted: 10/21/2008 1:37:10 AM
Very good profile. Wish other women's profiles sounded like yours. Good luck!

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 16 (view)

Men who say they don't want children Posted: 10/21/2008 1:16:43 AM
Try changing your search to being a male looking for a female and see what you find. Your find that most females state that they "Do NOT want children". So this is also an interesting question for a single father who has custody of his son. But women are usualy sexist and never think that a man could have custody of his children and love them. Please let me know what it means when a woman brags about HER children in her profile but states that she "Does NOT want children". I'll be expecting to here from you.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 10 (view)

Single Father Who Is Being Aliented From His Daughter By His Ex Posted: 10/21/2008 12:47:20 AM
Op, I’m sorry, but you should know the Rules. These are the rules that all women believe and our justice system has strictly adhered to. All men must remember these rules for this is what women insist is true. * Men are only valued for their paycheck and going to war. * Men are not capable of taking care of their children. * Men are not supposed to love their children, they are expected to provide for them. * Men are not allowed to have any right concerning their children. * All men are sexual predators while women are encouraged to write a book about their sexual encounters with under aged boys and go on Oprah. * All men beat their wives. * All men are evil.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 38 (view)

Taking a paycut to spend more time with your children...... Posted: 10/20/2008 10:04:54 PM
I am a man who had custody of my son. His mother (who was a women’s libber and hated men) was an introvert and did not like to work with people, so she wanted to and did work the evening shift where she had little contact with people. I took care of my son during the weekdays and she was responsible for taking care of him on the weekends. (I found out later that, when he was a teenager, almost every weekend she would travel with her boyfriend out of state. He got tired sitting in the back seat all weekend. So, for years, she left him at her apartment by himself on the weekends while she went along with her boyfriend on trips across the country. This was after a long and costly custody battle where my son wanted to live with me and which about financially broke me.) I was working in a field that managers and supervisors had to be available to respond and work any time and day of the week (24/7). Managers and supervisors, were required to work over-time if needed. I had: two related B.S. degrees (with over 360 cr. hrs.); lectured over 5,000 hrs. at colleges and adult education schools; internationally certified in my field; worked for the federal government and many fortune 500 companies; and was highly know and respected in my field with professional political connections to the White House and the Pentagon. When my ex and I split up, my son was 8 years-old. At that time, I choose to put my son before my career. I got out of management and supervision and took a regular jobs where I had a fixed shift on the day shift three days a week and worked two 12 hour shifts on the weekends when his mother was supposed to had taken care of him. On one of my days off during the week, I would travel 60 miles and take my elderly mother to the doctors because my father had a stroke in 1975, became disabled and couldn’t drive. I had to be home evenings and nights M – F for my son and off a day during the week for my mother. I made this happen and still was able to work 48 hours per week. After a while, I had to switch jobs and work two part-time jobs, but I still made it happen. This went on for 8 years. Then, after my father passed away in 2000, my mother later (in 2004) started forgetting things and her doctors said that she shouldn’t be living by herself. My mother (age 80) wanted to stay at home and my stupid sister, who was the co-guardian for my mother, was in denial that anything was wrong with our mother. For 15 years prior to his death in 2000, my father had routinely told me to, “take care of your mother when I’m gone”. So, since my sister, who also lived 60 miles away from our mother, was in denial that anything was wrong with our mother and would not help out, it was up to me to take care of my mother along with my teen age son. So for three years, I commuted 120 miles round trip during the day, 5 – 6 days per week, to take care of my mother and during the evenings, I was home to cook my son something to eat, wash his clothes, and be there for him. All during this time, I was able to pay the bills and provide food on the table for my son (I was not getting anything from his mother or any government assistance – men can’t get it). During these 11 years, I did not have any dates, because I was busy and almost all the women’s profiles, on the Internet dating sites, posted required financial income above mine.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 532 (view)

So please tell me...what is it with (some) men that think younger women are better??? Posted: 10/17/2008 10:07:39 PM
I have found that most women in there 50’s, (where I live) got married in their late teens and stayed at home while their husband supported them. All they did was: take care of kids/grand kids and the house (barefoot and pregnant); watched TV; let themselves go and got old. When I try to talk to them about what has gone on in the world or anything else, they have to rely on what they remember for an episode of Oprah. Most of them never had a job since high school. They still live in the same town that they were born in and never left (they did move down the street). As far a wisdom goes, some may think they have it, but I highly question it. I have done a lot in my life (including teaching a few college courses) and have worked in many cities throughout the USA and in a third world county. So, I have very little in common with women of my chronological age where I now live, except how long we both have been alive and the fact that we both eat, sleep and sh_t. Younger women are of a newer generation, who have different ideas about life than the women who are in their 50’s. I met a young lady the other day that just got out of basic training in Texas. It has been along time since I went through it, but we had a nice long talk about it and she wanted to see me this Saturday night. As far as intelligence goes (as a post has previously mentioned), I have found that younger women either have, are or want to improve their education, where as, women my chronological age where I now live are just happy taking care of their grandchildren and haven’t had, don’t have and will never have any desire to improve their education. Since I’ve been around younger people most of my life, I can relate to them better than the women my chronological age where I now live. Also, I have found that most women of my chronological age are on the decline, where as, I am still growing better and improving myself and I always will until the day I drop. I still have many mountains that I want to clime and challenges in life that I want to meet. I haven’t made my first million yet and I haven’t ran for President yet. I may never meet some of my challenges, but at least I’m going to continue to try while I’m alive. Remember, the word "Can't", is a four letter word that is not in my vocabulary I have the zest for life of someone in their 30’s, the body of someone in their 40’s and have chronologically been alive for 50+ years. So, I have very little in common with women where I live who are of my chronological age except we could talk about where we were when JFK died, but I have no interest in that. In closing, let me remind you what the title of this Thread is: “So please tell me...what is it with (SOME) men that think younger women are better???” I do not in any way speak for anyone but myself. This was a question and some men are trying to answer the question. However, some people on this thread sound like they think that this is a vote on what should be normal. We all know what the norm is (You HAVE TO date someone your own age!), so why keep on repeating it? Hopefully, some women (and men) will learn something from this thread and realize that everyone in this world is a deviant in some way or form because there are no real norms in this world. Some people are extremely concerned about keeping up with the Jones next door, I have never been. Some people do stuff because they have to feel that they fit in. A lot of people are no more than a rubber stamp. Believe me, they broke the mold when I was born. I don't want to be like everyone else, I want to be me!

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 54 (view)

ladies, just what do you consider to be a real man.???????????? Posted: 10/15/2008 2:34:23 PM
Most women’s idea of a Real Man is one who is P_ssy-Whipped “Yes Dear.” “Here’s my paycheck Dear.” “Here’s my life’s savings, Dear.” “Here’s the deed to my house, Dear.” “What ever you say, Dear.” Now, that’s the type of REAL Man, that most women want. Real Man = P_ssy-Whipped Women as a group have over the years earned their reputation of wanting this type of guy. **************** Most women can’t take the truth. Most women wants a guy that will tell them what they want to hear. Just like the OP. He was whole heartily honest about his opinion based on his experience. If a person is FAT, then they are FAT. I am FAT. A high percentage of people in the USA are FAT. If you are FAT, then you are FAT. What happened when the OP was whole heartily honest about his opinion based on his experience, women didn’t like it so they insulted him and gave him a bunch of crap. The problem is, most women can’t be honest with themselves. They say that they want a guy who is honest, but what they really want is a guy who will lie and tell them what they want to hear. “Do these pants make me look fat?” Ladies, do you really want a man who is honest?

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 52 (view)

ladies, just what do you consider to be a real man.???????????? Posted: 10/14/2008 1:53:32 AM
It’s a way to insult a man by getting at his male ego. It is usually done to respond to a guy’s actions or non-actions that is not up to the lady’s expectation. “A real man would . . .” “If you were a real man, you would . . .” It is also used to put all the blame on the man and not take any responsibility for the problem. (I might mention that in a relationship, most problems are the fault of both parties but in a varying degree.) Using this phrase is as bad as using the phrase: “If you really love me, you’d . . .” – I’m sure the ladies have heard this one before. If I hear someone use these types of phrase, I would just leave and never come back because they are just using head games and that I don’t need or want.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 29 (view)

why is sex so important? Posted: 10/14/2008 1:09:17 AM
Why is there air? Did the OP’s parents forget to explain the “Birds & the Bees” and “Life” to her? If there is not going to be any sex in a relationship with a woman, I might as will stay home with my good old coon dog. At least he is loyal and doesn’t argue with me. I’ll turn this question around for the OP to see if she is able to think. I know some people are afraid to think. I’m hoping she is not one of them. Ok OP, If you were GOD (or whom ever), and you created the earth. You can create any type of living thing on your earth, any way you want to, however, you need to have these living things multiply on their own so they will populate the earth. How would you design your living things so they would multiply on their own and populate the earth? Think about it. Seriously think about it.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 488 (view)

So please tell me...what is it with (some) men that think younger women are better??? Posted: 10/12/2008 3:10:33 AM
I don’t know about you guys, but I want to live life to its fullest and I’m turned off by a young 50+ year old woman who’s ad sounds like she is in her 80’s and can’t wait until she is 90 and dies. I’m 54, and now after voluntarily taking a year off work, I feel like I’m in my 30’s again. I previously gained about 80 lbs. due to previously taking an office job for a few years and sitting at home in the evenings for several years taking care of my son. I’ve lost 30 lbs. in the last two years and I’m going to loose the other 50 lbs. I beat my diabetes and don’t have it anymore. So I’m in better shape than a lot of the kids in high school. The only thing that makes me old is my gray hair and that’s because it’s in my genes. My Grandfather had white hair when he was young. I started getting gray hair when I was 22 years old. I was salt and pepper when I was 27 years old. My son found a gray hair the other day and he just turned 19. I’ve been around the military and law enforcement about all my life, so I have dealt with people dieing about all my life. I use to respond to traffic accidents where people died. I remember when I was seven, I helped my mother get the can food together that we were going to have to put in my red wagon and pull it with us when we had to walk to the Civil Defense Fallout Shelter once the sirens went off and also knew that when we eventually come out of the shelter, life would not be the same (we lived on a military base next to Washington D.C. during the Cuban Missile Crisis). Later, I worked around storage areas that housed thousands of nuclear weapons. Most of my best friends have died due to accidents, and many other good friends have also already died and most of them were my age. My brother who lived a very active life died at 48 years old. I learned very early in law enforcement that one needs to enjoy and live every day to it’s fullest because it may be your last.. I know more than most people how it is to get old because I just got done taking care of my very active 83 year-old Mother every day for three years because I promised my father who had also lived a very active life. I hate to break people’s bubble, but the term “Golden Age” was used to be nice. It’s the age where one starts becoming handicap and start not being able to do stuff anymore. There is a difference between changing jobs and retiring. Retiring is when one stops working and starts becoming a burden on society, with the next step in life being death. Now age is only a number in your mind but too many people in their 50’s act older than my parents and grand parents did when they were 82 years-old. I, myself, am not setting around waiting till I get older. Some people just can’t wait until they get into the Rocking Chair and rot. I have learned from the past and live for the future. So I don’t sit around and talk about where I was when I found out JFK died. JFK is dead but I’m still alive. For those of you who remember JFK, do you think that he would want us to sit around and waste our time talking about him or do you think he would want us to live our lives to the fullest and strive to make this world a better place? Now, other than the three years that I’ve spent taking care of my mother, I have been around young people through out my life, either in the military, in college, or teaching. The definition for “Mature” means: Complete in natural growth and development, ripe. Look it up: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mature Will, I am mature (ripe) but I’m not old and ready to rot, I’m in my prime. If a person is in his/her prime, why would he/she want to quite and go sit in a rocking chair? So, when I read a profile from a young 50+ year-old woman who’s profile sounds like she is in her 80’s and can’t wait until she is in her 90’s and die, how do you think I feel? So, I am not looking for someone who has been alive as long as I have, I’m looking for some one to LIVE with and have a FUTURE together. I’m not concerned about finding someone to remember the past with. I’m seriously thinking about dying my hair.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 23 (view)

girlfriend flashing at parties Posted: 10/1/2008 6:15:14 PM
Does she do this at the table at Thanksgiving with your parents there? Now that would be funny if while your mother were asking your father what piece of the turkey he wanted, she did this. I'm sure we can guess what piece he would say. On the serious side, she deffiently has a problem, which is causing you to have a problem. If a man showed his assets like that, he would be in jail faster than shit. I suggest you take her for counseling. She may be flashing the mail man, paperboy and the old fart across the street who you wondered why he had a heart attack. She could cause an accident if she did it on the highway. Boob flashing is a serious problem. She had better not do it while close to a washing machine or she might get her tit in the ringer. I'd have to see the problem to get a better feel on what my advice would be.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 439 (view)

So please tell me...what is it with (some) men that think younger women are better??? Posted: 10/1/2008 5:57:24 PM
I'm 54. Reading profiles of women in my age group is so damn depressing. Either they: * Hate men * Are looking for a man with money to support them – They were so use to staying at home having their hubby supporting them and expect things to be the same as it was back in the 60’s and 70’s. * Can’t wait to retire and die. All they talk about is retiring. I like my career and don’t want to give it up because some old bitty can’t wait to be sitting in a rocking chair knitting waiting till they croak. * Are so obsessed with their grand children that they can’t talk about anything else. I don’t even know why they post a profile on the dating sites. They obviously don’t have any room in their life for a new relationship. Why don’t you women try reading some of these profiles that other women write, then you will understand. Some people love life and want to do many things in their life, while others just want to sit back and do nothing with their life. I am the former and can’t stand the later. My ex portrayed the former but turned out to be the later. The former will not get along with the later and would rather be with a younger person whom they perceive to also be a former.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 239 (view)

older guys younger women Posted: 9/28/2008 10:49:40 PM
Continuation from my above post “BGSU”. I might mention, when I was a 22 years-old airman stationed in the Philippians, while other guys my age were getting drunk and screwing every young “Bar Girl” they could, I was seeing a 50 year old Colonel’s widow. We got along great. Loved the home cooking. She liked to travel around the country visiting her friends and family, so I went with her and enjoyed meeting new people and learning about her culture. Her sister went to school with Imelda Marcos (President Ferdinand Marco’s wife) and was one of the heads of the Commerce Department, so it was interesting to hear about the real government politics. She was energetic and had class. Hay, wait a second. Since I’ve dated and known many women in my life, I’ve been trying to figure out what characteristics I like in a women by looking at those women that I have dated in the past that I was attracted to and clicked with. I just compared the 50 year-old with the 22 year-old and the love of my life who was my age. I think I’ve just realized the similarities, Petite, Energetic, Educated, Worldly with Class and a Big Heart. OMG! Looking back, that summarizes every woman that I ever was attracted to (except the two who were obese and that was the only reason why I never got serious with them). That also explains why I was never attracted to other women in the past, they didn’t have all these characteristics. That also explains one reason why I lost interest in my ex, she lost her energy, class and became a ****. Oh yah, I have to add to these characteristics: “Must like oral sex” (but I won’t mention that in my requirements in my profile). So, I guess it’s not about age for me. It’s about having those 6+1 characteristics that I mention above and not having those four characteristics that I mentioned in my previous Post. Thanks for listening. While thinking about writing this, I learned something about myself.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 28 (view)

WHY DO MEN WANT YOUNGER WOMEN? Posted: 9/28/2008 10:39:30 PM
Continuation from my above post “BGSU”. I might mention, when I was a 22 years-old airman stationed in the Philippians, while other guys my age were getting drunk and screwing every young “Bar Girl” they could, I was seeing a 50 year old Colonel’s widow. We got along great. Loved the home cooking. She liked to travel around the country visiting her friends and family, so I went with her and enjoyed meeting new people and learning about her culture. Her sister went to school with Imelda Marcos (President Ferdinand Marco’s wife) and was one of the heads of the Commerce Department, so it was interesting to hear about the real government politics. She was energetic and had class. Hay, wait a second. Since I’ve dated and known many women in my life, I’ve been trying to figure out what characteristics I like in a women by looking at those women that I have dated in the past that I was attracted to and clicked with. I just compared the 50 year-old with the 22 year-old and the love of my life who was my age. I think I’ve just realized the similarities, Petite, Energetic, Educated, Worldly with Class and a Big Heart. OMG! Looking back, that summarizes every woman that I ever was attracted to (except the two who were obese and that was the only reason why I never got serious with them). That also explains why I was never attracted to other women in the past, they didn’t have all these characteristics. That also explains one reason why I lost interest in my ex, she lost her energy, class and became a ****. Oh yah, I have to add to these characteristics: “Must like oral sex” (but I won’t mention that in my requirements in my profile). So, I guess it’s not about age for me. It’s about having those 6+1 characteristics that I mention above and not having those four characteristics that I mentioned in my previous Post. Thanks for listening. While thinking about writing this, I learned something about myself.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 576 (view)

Is money really that important ladies? Posted: 9/24/2008 8:14:53 PM
It used to be that women got upset that men thought that a woman’s place was in the kitchen. Now, men are getting upset when women think of men as just a pay check. That is how men feel when a woman inquires into how much money they make. I have heard many complaints from women about men not telling them how they feel. Well, ladies, men do not like to be treated like a Pay Check as so many women do. I have decided hat the next time a woman asks me what I did for a living, I’m going to tell them that I’m a Retired Gigolo just to see what their response would be.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 217 (view)

older guys younger women Posted: 9/24/2008 7:11:00 PM
Why I enjoy dating a younger woman. At 54, about all women in my age group are either: * Obsessed with their adult kids and grand kids. That’s all they are able to talk about. I don’t care about THEIR adult kids and grand kids and why should I? I care about my own son who I have raised by myself for the past 12 years. Why should I want to spend the rest of my life helping her take care of all her grand kids? If she didn’t raise her children to be responsible enough to take care of their own children, then that tells me something about her and her adult children, which I don’t want to get involved with. I was responsible for my son and I raised him to be just as responsible. I expect no less from the woman I date and her adult children. * Hate men. A high percentage of women in my age group down right hate men. They blame men for everything. My ex even blamed men for causing her to have her Periods. They blame men for all their problems no matter if the guy had anything to do with it or not. They just like complaining especially about men. Why would I want to be with them? * Expect the guy to retire soon. I may be 54, but I have too many people to meet, places to go and things to do. I’m not ready for the Rocking Chair. TV sucks. I don’t like golf and even if I did, I wouldn’t want to play it every day. I hate taking care of the yard, I had to do that enough when I was a kid. I was a military brat and moved around when I was in the military myself, so why would I want to travel around in a RV. I love my career field and want to work until I drop. * Looking for a man with a lot of money. Well that leaves most guys out. My deadbeat ex screwed me over financially. So that leaves me out too. Even though most women in my generation were for equal rights, they still expect a man to pay for the dinner and everything else (It’s not about the money, it’s about the principles). Even though a lot of women in my generation now have jobs, most of them are still looking for a man to support them. A lot of women in my generation were use to their ex husbands supporting them for years and now can’t cope with the 21st century where the sexes are becoming more equal in more ways than they want. I have ADD and except for some minor issues, I feel like I’m in my thirties and have more energy than most people in their thirties. Of course, I can tell I am getting a little older because I can only get it up twice a day now and then it’s only for about ten minutes. Dumb me, I married my ex too soon, without getting to know her as much as I should had before I married her. At age 29, she used to enjoy sitting around in a rocking chair knitting when ever she could. I was 34 then and it used to drive me crazy. Back then, my ex acted older than my grandmothers ever did and they lived into their 80’s. When I was 20, I use to date a girl my age and after I took her home at 10, I used to sit on her front porch talking with her mother until after mid-night. The date was boring but her mother and I had a great time. Of course, when I was 18, most of the girls my age were chasing older guys and a lot of the 18 year old girls wouldn’t even look at a guy their own age. What comes around, goes around. If I’m going to spend money on a woman, it’s going to be with someone I enjoy being with and someone attractive. If I come across a woman that sounds like she: hates men; is looking for a man to support her; is obsessed with her adult children and grand children; or who can’t wait to retire and die, I would not even consider her. She is in her early twenties but acts like she is in her 30’s. For those smart ass men haters, I’m too young for my mid life crisis, I wasn’t chasing younger women, we just met and got along. For me, it’s not about age, it’s that I don’t like the attitude of most women in my age group. So now I have an option that I shall pursue. Well at least until her ex 40 year-old boy friend pulls his head out of his ass and realizes what a great young lady he walked away from. For I am the re-bound guy and I’m enjoying it while it last. When I went to shave today, I noticed that after 15 long years, I finally have a smile back on my face. For the women of my age group are very depressing. I’m just enjoying life, for tomorrow brings another day and who knows what will happen.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 24 (view)

WHY DO MEN WANT YOUNGER WOMEN? Posted: 9/24/2008 6:48:53 PM
Why I enjoy dating a younger woman. At 54, about all women in my age group are either: * Obsessed with their adult kids and grand kids. That’s all they are able to talk about. I don’t care about THEIR adult kids and grand kids and why should I? I care about my own son who I have raised by myself for the past 12 years. Why should I want to spend the rest of my life helping her take care of all her grand kids? If she didn’t raise her children to be responsible enough to take care of their own children, then that tells me something about her and her adult children, which I don’t want to get involved with. I was responsible for my son and I raised him to be just as responsible. I expect no less from the woman I date and her adult children. * Hate men. A high percentage of women in my age group down right hate men. They blame men for everything. My ex even blamed men for causing her to have her Periods. They blame men for all their problems no matter if the guy had anything to do with it or not. They just like complaining especially about men. Why would I want to be with them? * Expect the guy to retire soon. I may be 54, but I have too many people to meet, places to go and things to do. I’m not ready for the Rocking Chair. TV sucks. I don’t like golf and even if I did, I wouldn’t want to play it every day. I hate taking care of the yard, I had to do that enough when I was a kid. I was a military brat and moved around when I was in the military myself, so why would I want to travel around in a RV. I love my career field and want to work until I drop. * Looking for a man with a lot of money. Well that leaves most guys out. My deadbeat ex screwed me over financially. So that leaves me out too. Even though most women in my generation were for equal rights, they still expect a man to pay for the dinner and everything else (It’s not about the money, it’s about the principles). Even though a lot of women in my generation now have jobs, most of them are still looking for a man to support them. A lot of women in my generation were use to their ex husbands supporting them for years and now can’t cope with the 21st century where the sexes are becoming more equal in more ways than they want. I have ADD and except for some minor issues, I feel like I’m in my thirties and have more energy than most people in their thirties. Of course, I can tell that I am getting a little older because I can only get it up twice a day now and then it’s only for about ten minutes. Dumb me, I married my ex too soon, without getting to know her as much as I should had before I married her. At age 29, she used to enjoy sitting around in a rocking chair knitting when ever she could. I was 34 then and it used to drive me crazy. Back then, my ex acted older than my grandmothers ever did and they lived into their 80’s. When I was 20, I use to date a girl my age and after I took her home at 10, I used to sit on her front porch talking with her mother until after mid-night. The date was boring but her mother and I had a great time. Of course, when I was 18, most of the girls my age were chasing older guys and a lot of the 18 year old girls wouldn’t even look at a guy their own age. What comes around, goes around. If I’m going to spend money on a woman, it’s going to be with someone I enjoy being with and someone attractive. If I come across a woman that sounds like she: hates men; is looking for a man to support her; is obsessed with her adult children and grand children; or who can’t wait to retire and die, I would not even consider her. She is in her early twenties but acts like she is in her 30’s. For those smart ass men haters, I’m too young for my mid life crisis, I wasn’t chasing younger women, we just met and got along. For me, it’s not about age, it’s that I don’t like the attitude of most women in my age group. So now I have an option that I shall pursue. Well at least until her ex 40 year-old boy friend pulls his head out of his ass and realizes what a great young lady he walked away from. For I am the re-bound guy and I’m enjoying it while it last. When I went to shave today, I noticed that after 15 long years, I finally have a smile back on my face. For the women of my age group are very depressing. I’m just enjoying life, for tomorrow brings another day and who knows what will happen.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 14 (view)

having a kept person. Posted: 4/1/2008 12:08:14 AM
For years, women have been seeking relationships where a man will support them. It still goes on today in these web dating sites. I don’t know about the newer generations, but the baby boomers and older generations have this notion that men are suppose to support women and women from these generations are still demanding it. Most women from these generations grew up with the goal of finding a doctor or lawyer to marry so they can be kept. This is why men have the tendency not to tell women what they really do for a living. They know what women want (someone to keep them) and they know that most women won’t accept a man with an average job. Now, lets be honest, how many women are attracted to a plumber? Most women want a man to support them so bad that they will try to advance the stages of a relationship by having sex with these guys that are considered a “good catch” (guys with high income). Now, lets see, if a mouse can learn that if he presses a level, food will come out, a man can learn that if he tells a woman that he is a doctor or lawyer, she will have sex with him. Both the mouse and the man learn from experience. The man also quickly learns that if he is honest and tells women that he is a plumber, women will immediately turn away and go after the guy who told that he was a doctor or lawyer. Men aren’t the ones who are stupid here. Some women don’t believe how women react to what a man does for a living, that is because most women don’t date other women. Other women are into guys with status. Their value in life comes from the status of their boy friend or husband. They chase men who have status. This is why I laugh at Governor Spitzers wife. What did she have to complain about, she got what she wanted – status. She probably didn’t care a crap about him having sex with another woman, she was concerned about her loosing her status because he lost his status. I’ve met many women who are status seekers. These guys knows this. They know that they married a status addicted woman. That is why they have sex with other women – because they can. These status addicted women will do anything to keep their status. If women want men to change, then women have to change first. Men only respond to what women want, just as the market changes with the demand. But, since most women in the baby boomer generation and older are still seeking a man who will keep them (either by their income or by their retirement package) and there are a lot of women who are addicted to men with status, men will still behave the way they have been. How can you expect men to change when women don’t. Now, in this case, some men are getting smart and are changing. However, most of these men are from a generation younger than the baby boomer generation (more open minded and less concern about what their daddy told them). There is now a market where older women with money are seeking younger men for a primarily sexual relationship. With women’s liberation, the tide is now finally turning in relationships. The thing is, women don’t like the results of the changes they made in the American culture. Again, for years, men have been keeping women. The women’s liberation movement wanted to make changes to the American culture. Now, women do not want to accept the results of the changes that they made.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 269 (view)

How would you feel about a WOMAN with a GUN? Posted: 1/26/2008 11:41:57 PM
BY By!!! Some women are crazy (of course, some men are too). Just don't want to get into that situation.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 191 (view)

Guys - what is your take on Misogyny Posted: 1/26/2008 11:33:08 PM
What is it called when "Women Hate Men"? My ex-wife hated men. She use to blame all the problems of the world and all her problems on men. Men were the reason she had her periods. She apparently learned that men were the root of all eval from her "Women's Issues" class. What a way to make yourself feel better. Just blame all your problems on someone else and don't take any responsibility for your own actions.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 174 (view)

Can a pretty girl have brains too? Posted: 1/26/2008 11:16:09 PM
Statistics! If you would date women, you would understand the answer to your question. I will gladly say, that there are always exceptions to norms. You must be one of them.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 131 (view)

Why do men make vomit-faces when you mention Oprah? Posted: 1/26/2008 11:05:53 PM
Oprah's audience is women. She tell women what they want to hear so they will watch her. She is a sexist, which again gets women to watch her. Her show is totally about women for women. Women do not need to learn about "Women's Issues". Women need to learn about "Men's Issues", so they can understand men. Men are the one's who need to learn about "Women's Issues", so they can understand women. Oprah's show is geared towards women and not the general audience. Her show is a turn-off for most men. Men generally view women who watch Oprah as the lazy stay at home type who eats Boom Booms and watches TV all day while their husbands has to go to work and earn a living to pay the bills. Then, like my ex, instead of going to college via the internet or just reading about a subject, she got her degree from "Oprah University", and now she knows everything! You asked the question and you got one fool's opinion. If you don't want or accept answers, then, one should not ask questions. I don't expect you to agree with me, just think about it.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 8 (view)

Why txt instead of calling? Posted: 1/26/2008 10:38:01 PM
"Why txt instead of calling?" Alot of people like to show off their new toys and have fun playing with it. The reason why your other Post, "Why younger guys want to date older women", was cancelled my be because the topic has been covered several times before.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 77 (view)

do you honestly respect a girl's intellect? Posted: 12/16/2007 11:59:45 PM
An intelligent conversation is a turn-on for me. I just love intelligent women. The more intelligent, the better. It’s hard to find a woman who is intelligent. I met one last month. She was a cashier at Sears. We started talking and she was looking for a good grad school to go to for “International Affairs”. She said that my career advice was the best that any one had given her. We talked for over an hour. Unfortunately, she was too young for me. Two years ago, while my son was trying on pants at a mall, I was talking to the store manager. We had a great conversation on the economics of India and world trade. Unfortunately, she was married. I love PBS and “Meet The Press” It’s hard to find a woman who is intelligent. At least in my age group (50’s). The only topics women my age want to talk about are their grandchildren and retiring.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 51 (view)

REDNECK WOMEN Posted: 12/16/2007 11:05:42 PM
I'm not a "Redneck" and I do not like "Redneck" women. To each their own! May "Redneck" men and "Redneck" women live happily ever after.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 28 (view)

intimate encounters Posted: 12/16/2007 10:56:18 PM
When some lady puts “Must not be looking for Intimate Encounters” on their profile, I intemperate it as the lady is frigid and doesn’t like sex or doesn’t want to ever have any physical contact with a male for any reason. As for myself, I am looking for a healthy relationship, both emotionally and physically. To me, a healthy relationship, among other things, includes honesty, holding hands, hugging, and sex. Sometimes, healthy relationships are long term and other times they may not be. If two people do not emotionally get along, then the relationship will more than likely become short term. Now, for those of you who were born with a computer plug into your buttock, and that is all you know about life, then, I could see how you could have this narrow minded view of what an “Intimate Encounter” is. But, if you ask the average person on the street what it is, most of them would say that it includes holding hands, hugging, and sometimes sex. We get our language from the dictionary and not from some geek computer guy who has done nothing in his life but play on computers. So, when a lady puts “Must not be looking for Intimate Encounters” on their profile, I intemperate it as the lady is frigid and doesn’t like sex or doesn’t want to ever have any physical contact with a male for any reason. If a lady does not want a “one night stand” or is “looking for more than a physical relationship”, then they should get out their “Funk & Wagnalls” and learn how to communicate what they mean.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 29 (view)

Being online late means = looking for sex? Posted: 12/7/2007 8:48:50 PM
I think that it’s because there are a lot of guys who struck out at the bars and go home by themselves. They get desperate and get on here before they go to bed to try one last chance to get lucky. A lot of them are drunk. They get desperate and try to pickup anybody they can before they go to bed alone. Late at night is just the time that the bars close. I have never used the chat whats-u-ma-call-its on these sites. There are a lot of people who I can talk to, so I don’t need some unknown person to talk to. I search the profiles so I get a half way ideal about the person before I email them. My suggestion is forget the chat whats-u-ma-call-its. As far as me, I’m use to working the night shift, so 3:00 a.m. is like the middle of my day. I sleep better during the day.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 47 (view)

What age would you be?? If you did not know what age you are?? Posted: 12/7/2007 5:23:42 PM
I'm old enough to know what I did wrong the first time but i'm still young enough to do it right the second time. My driver licenses keeps reminding me that I’m 53, but I have the mental enthusiasm of a 30 year old. I just can’t understand why so many people can’t wait until they retire. I’m not ready to throw in the towel and sit in a rocking chair waiting to die. Due to illness, my father had to retire at age 58. Even though he had a retirement packages totaling almost $60,000 per year, he was miserable for his last 25 years. Did I hear someone say travel, well that was what he did on his job as an aircraft mechanic, all over the world. They pried his wrench from his hands. When one loves their job and life, they don’t ever want to get old and retire. So, I’ll never be old enough to retire.

BGSU

Joined: 10/18/2006

Msg: 84 (view)

My Kids are the Most Important Thing in my Life! Posted: 12/7/2007 12:37:24 PM
You have to excuse me. I’m in my fifties and sometimes I have trouble remembering things and I ware glasses. Now, the last time I looked, I thought this was a thread for people over 45 years old. I therefore assumed that the audience for this Thread would be in the age group over 45 years old (both physically and mentally). Please correct me if I am wrong. I agree that there are a few women who gave birth to their children in their mid to late thirties and a few who gave birth later on in life. To those, I give my whole hearted apologies. However, for the most part, women usually give birth to their children prior to their mid thirties. This would make most of their children teenagers. Please correct me if my math is wrong. Now when I grew up and from what I’ve observed from most other parent whom I’ve known, teenagers are (or should be) mature enough to baby sit other children. Now with the popular use of cell phones, baby sitters can easily contact parents in case of problems and most kids know how to dial 911. The Red Cross even has courses customized for early teens on babysitting. When I grew up, there were no cell phones, customized courses for early teens on babysitting, nor 911, however, parents still let teenagers (ages 13 +) baby sit and stay at home by themselves for short periods of times (I mean a few hours not for three week vacations with boyfriends in the Bahamas). Now, of course, if the babysitter calls with a problem (not just to talk), the parent should properly respond (that is being a responsible parent and it is a given that you are a responsible parent). I think those who share my view on this Thread are not referring to responsible parents, but are referring to parents who are afraid of letting their children grow up and take responsibilities for taking care of themselves because the parent does not have a life of their own and are afraid of loosing the attention they receive from their overly dependent child due to the parents obsessive need to have their children (or grandchildren) by their side every minute of every day. So, when a 45+ year old person states “My Kids (or grand kids) are the Most Important Thing in my Life!” on their Profile, this is how the parent is perceived by myself and a good percentage of the readers. This type of parents, I believe, is not mentally ready to have a health relationship with an adult partner. Other than those guys who want only a quickie sexual relationship, most men and women in their 45+ age group are looking for a real and healthy relationship, which they receive some sort of enjoyment from. This is where I’m coming from. Now, for those of you who have this statement on their Profile, please enlighten us ignorant people on: · What type of relationship with another adult are you looking for? · Why do you even want (or need) a relationship with another adult? · What do you want out of a relationship with another adult? · What do you think a normal adult wants out of a relationship? · Entertaining the premises that a relationship is a, “Give and Take” situation, what (how) are you willing to give in the relationship? · How would you describe a healthy relationship? Now, if you stated “My Kids (or grand kids) are the Most Important Thing in my Life!” on a resume, what do you think the employer would assume from the statement and do you really think that you would get the job? Yes, employers do want employees who are responsible parents, they make responsible employees. However, this statement does not belong on a job resume. When it is on a job resume, it sends out a negative message. Now, most adults do not want to get involved with a person who is NOT a responsible parent. Other than those who are not biological parents themselves, who continually criticizes all biological parents for everything the do or don’t do (we have had several of them on this thread), we all assume that you are a responsible parent. However, there is a big difference between being a responsible parent and a parent who is being overly obsessive with their children (or grandchildren). There is an old saying, “There is a time and place for everything” and placing the statement: “My Kids (or grand kids) are the Most Important Thing in my Life!” on a resume or in a computer dating Profile is not the right place.

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