You need to use some of your Carta Magica on you Dull Profila.....

This is going to be long, so bare with me. Also, I welcome correction and critisism. This is something I'd like to see discussed indepth but with something more than just opinion, which is all I have to offer at this time.

This subject is kind of covered in the "who pays for dinner" thread, but I'll go ahead and share my take on it.




The answer: yes, but it was more like manslaughter.




You can't bring back the dead.

However if you can find a way to make it a wise, profitable and fashionable course of pursuit, then I think you can have something like Chivalry again.





The double standard that you are describing is what a lot of men are facing today. Before you can say, "but I'd treat a man decently", you have to understand the damage is already done and the genie is out of the bottle.

The identity crisis

There was a time when men had a laundry list of things that they desired in a woman and vice versa.

Somewhere along the lines a large group of women, large enough to disrupt the status quo of the time, decided that they no longer wanted to adhere to the list of men's desires. Instead they pushed for equality maybe these woman just wanted men to recognize that they were just as capable as men, but what they ended up pushing was the idea that women could be men too.

In short these women said, "Since we can be both men and women, we have the expectations of both."

Women now have two identities: one masculine the other effeminate.

lose-lose

Now what happens is when a man is attempting to address the effeminate identity of a woman, he is accused of being backwards and ignorant, because in that instance she is just as capable as any man. The man has just offended the woman's masculine identity.

However when a man expects that a woman fulfill her masculine role, she cries in disbelief that a man would be so uncouth to ask such a thing. After all, she is an effeminate woman and expects to be treated as such.

Since women lay claim on both masculine and effeminate the identities, then a man will only continue to offend a woman when he addresses her. This is because any action directed towards one identity (either masculine or effeminate) will offend the other.

As I understand it, Chivalry was pushed by the church to end the abuse of women at the time. If I'm wrong correct me.

The reasoning behind it

Where Chivalry was once a courtesy, it has now become a liability for men. A woman can now go out, earn an education, work alongside men, and earn money. In that capacity she is an equal in capability, but there is something most women forget when considering this.

If she is just as capable of doing a man's job just then a woman has now joined the ranks of competition.

While a man may have given up his seat to a woman at one point in time, because she was a woman; now he has to ask himself, would he give up a promotion, pay raise, or share of the bounty to the same woman just because she's a woman. The answer is an unsurprising "no". Just like his male co-workers, she is competition.

Who wins?

Imagine you were an Engineering company and Engineers are hard to come by. There is a high demand and a low supply of M-Engineers, so you (the company) have to pay through the nose with respect to the cost of living to get one of these M-Engineers to work for you.

Suddenly in the span of a very short few years the supply of Engineers increases by twenty-five percent due to an influx of W-Engineers. What's even better is that these new W-Engineers desperately want to get their foot in the door of your company. You tell them that you'll pay them the standard pay. Not only do they accept your offer, but they even lie to themselves saying things like I'm only doing this to earn some extra money, I don't need to work, because my husband has a good job, and I'm only doing this till I have some kids and then I'll stay at home with them.

You the company are making a killing; because now you're no longer reliant on the low supply high cost of the old M-Engineers. Because Engineers have practically doubled you only need to pay half as much for either type. Even better is that one is only working for the pay, which means that M-Engineers are going to have to go down in price to compete. Meanwhile, the cost of living going up, but your overhead for Engineers is going down. You (the company) are netting almost twice as much.

Meanwhile with all these Engineers at work (both M and W) no one is at home watching the Kids. Thank goodness there are daycares that charge just enough money to keep both parents working.

Why going backwards is harder

The pattern is already set.

If half the workforce left their jobs what will that accomplish. The cost of living won't go down by half.

To summarize my lengthy OPINION, because that's all it is, consider the following:

Chivalry once had its place because men had a role to fulfill and women had a role to fulfill. Now women have two identities, one masculine the other effeminate. A man constantly runs the risk of offending a woman because any action directed towards one identity (either masculine or effeminate) has a high potential of offending the other. To make the matter more complicated a man must be especially cautious because women are also his competition to make a living. Because the competition has almost doubled, it is almost essential that a man who has any desires for a family find a woman who can work and earn just as much as he can. However these expectations are met with ferocity by most women, because these women don't NEED a man to take care of them, they just EXPECT it.

Any single guys ready to convince me LOL oh maybe Im not that shy lol. but hint hint single guys convince me.

thanks to everyone!

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You're not quite sure what to make of it, or what it means, but you'll click it anyway to find out.

With the rate of physical assaults and rape, now 1 in 4 chance in your lifetime as a woman, you can't afford to accept help from a man *under certain conditions*.