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 Author Thread: fess up..... idiosyncrasies
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 96 (view)
 
fess up..... idiosyncrasies
Posted: 8/10/2006 5:38:18 AM
I like to sort things--papers; clothes by size, colour, type; books--but I dislike actually organizing anything. So I end up with piles of sorted items.

The trunk of my car is always full--with items that would need to be sorted if they made it into my apartment.

I have all of my favourite books since I was a teenager.

My definition of a favourite book: one that I not only greatly enjoyed but that I will reread (including those books from when I was a teenager!).

I do not have two matching plates, though the rest of my dishware and flatware match.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 386 (view)
 
puzzlers----you figure it out
Posted: 10/20/2005 1:56:59 PM

Are the woman and the band in the same room? Yes, kinda

Were the woman and the band in the same room before the band stopped playing?
Were the woman and the band in the same room after the band stopped playing?
Were the woman's body and the band in the same room after the band stopped playing?

Is the woman dead?
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 378 (view)
 
puzzlers----you figure it out
Posted: 10/19/2005 4:32:47 PM

The band stops playing. A scantily-clad woman screams and dies.


Are the woman and the band in the same room?
Was the woman in the band?
Did the band stop playing to take a break?
Was the band interrupted in its playing?

Just a few questions to get my brain back in thinking order.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Do you have an 8th grade education?
Posted: 10/19/2005 4:27:16 PM
Whether or not this is a "real" 1895 test, I still like challenging myself by seeing just how much general knowledge I do have.

I would agree that many of the questions would only be answerable by one who has recently studied the information. On the other hand, many of them can be answered by life experience or knowledge. For instance:

Describe the mountains of North America.
- Rockies: rugged, with naked stone peaks that are snow-covered in winter, fir-covered below the tree line. Sharp inclines. Towards the east, the mountains gradually round out into gentle foothills followed by plains towards the east while to the west they first graduate into less rugged mountain territory and finally into foothills.

Not a comprehensive answer as it deals only with the Rockies. I've never studied the Rockies but I can provide observations.


But the bushel got me--being metric, I can do cup, pint, quart, gallon--and then gallons and gallons! lol
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Nighttime Disturbance
Posted: 10/19/2005 3:50:04 PM
"Last night I dreamt I went to Manderly again."
Last night I dreamt
as I slept
a vision of my sister
present but clouded in her presentation.

Last night I dreamt of my sister.
She lay on a bed,
her naked yesteryear body
stretched towards me
her face obscured by the crumpled sheets.

I raised my eyes from her head
to the wall behind her,
taking in her pert small breasts
resting on her chest
slanted
slightly up, slightly out
still firm,
taking in her flat belly
covered by the tanned wrinkled hand
and grey brushcut head
of our father.

Feeling an immediate suffison of anger
at this betrayal of responsibility
I moved to the bed
swearing at him
to move, to stop,
berating him for his betrayal,
understanding, finally,
much of her behaviour,
providing him no mercy
in the face of this disablement.

Realizing he had been the one from my youth,
the one, and only the once,
I yelled back to him his awareness
of how it had affected me
knowing now I was not crazy
to have been so impacted.
I yelled back to him his criminality
in continuing his actions
knowing how even a single time
had permanently shaped me.

In my dream,
I reported him.
I followed through.
My sister did not fight me.
Neither did she support me.
She had no momentum for action.

-----
copyright 2005 Michelle Wilson
"feel free to quote it, just credit it"
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 169 (view)
 
Pass it on Poem
Posted: 10/6/2005 7:20:46 PM
dreams snowflakes dreaming
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 135 (view)
 
Pass it on Poem
Posted: 9/30/2005 10:38:30 AM
silent in darkness
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Can you be friends with a EX?
Posted: 9/21/2005 4:36:37 PM
I think so. For a long time, I believed that if I no longer wanted them as an SO then I obviously I should never have had them in my life to begin with and I wrote them off. These days I work hard at maintaining my SOs as friends--providing we didn't part due to abuse etc.

I valued them enough to invest my time in them in a relationship and I want to keep them as a friend. It's worked fairly well since I made this decision--but both parties need to want it.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 15 (view)
 
girls night out...
Posted: 9/21/2005 2:33:58 PM
I tell him that I really like talking with him and I want to spend more time with him. But tonight is the girls' night out!!!! (semi pout). How about we have a dance and talk about when we can meet next time--and then I really do need to get back to my friends!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Help
Posted: 9/21/2005 2:27:02 PM

It was a innocent mistake.. a honest mistake..

I'm sure it was an innocent mistake. This time.

But the fact is you had unprotected sex after drinking. The next time you drink with a mate or (more dangerous) someone you find attractive you will be likely to do it again. Drinking does that to people--loosens inhibitions. Be prepared in the future.

The person who gets violent when drunk is expected to monitor themselves after the first incident. This is the same. Get yourself on the pill and always carry condoms.

The comfort of telling yourself "it was just a mistake" wears very thin when you're facing a lifetime with HIV or the quandary of an unwanted, unplanned pregnancy.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 34 (view)
 
why is it so hard for a disabled guy to find a date?
Posted: 9/21/2005 2:20:21 PM
Hey there! I think blastkiss is pretty spot on in her assessment. When looking for a life partner, people will look for those who mesh best with their vision of the future.

I have dated people with disabilities--and myself I have anxiety as well. The main factor I look at is how much does the disability dictate their actions and life choices as opposed to being a consideration in the same.

One of the most attractive guys I've ever known, and nicest, and most charming, and charismatic, and recently re-entering my life to boot! lol, has significant physical damage to one of his legs. He can walk but is quite obviously "gimped up"--part of the long-term consequence of a mis-spent youth. He's in a different space these days and I admire him. As for the disability, I notice it sure, but that's about it.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Why do women ask for Intimate Encounters when they dont want one
Posted: 9/21/2005 2:02:15 PM
I have conducted a few informal polls amongst friends and various dating site users, by no means a scientific approach. I have found that guys looking for Intimate Encounters will pretty much go for it with whoever it is they meet (barring oozing pustules etc.). I have found that women generally select someone that they would be open to "doing" more than once, whether or not their intent is to do so.

Perhaps Intimate Encounters should be renamed into two separate categories:
Indiscriminate Encounters and Discriminate Encounters!!!!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 511 (view)
 
What is your favorite movie quote?
Posted: 9/21/2005 9:24:50 AM

I thought it was MIB.. but I am not 100 % sure... I love my stalkers.. HUGS for the stalkers... LOL

I'm falling down on the job here----six days to catch up! lol Hugs back at ya!

The quote was Repo Man.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Unique Vocabulary and Expressions
Posted: 9/21/2005 9:18:37 AM
I don't know how archaic these expressions are to this crowd, but my nephew had never heard of them:

Don't be a ninny--don't be silly
Whatever turns your crank--whatever gets you going/turns you on

And then there is:
bodkins--(insert favourite curse word here) medieval curse referring to Christ's body
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Anyone up for a night of bowling?
Posted: 9/20/2005 5:29:46 PM
I like bowling--count me in. Not this weekend, nor Thanksgiving weekend, other than so far so good.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 26 (view)
 
sorry, Weeeeeeeeeeee!!
Posted: 9/20/2005 5:25:31 PM
1. If you were falling off a very tall cliff, what would you want to holler on the way down? ................................ "sh********t"
2. If you published a book, it would be called: "The Awfully Large Book Of.…….”?................................ Inner Thoughts, Musings, Analyses, and Over-Analyses of a Very Busy Mind
3. If your photo was in the newspaper, what would you want the headline to read? "Canadian Writes The World" -- make of that what you will! lol
4. What do you think it would actually read? ................................ (oh dear, I hadn't read ahead!) "Local writer supports kids shelter"
5. If you were a test, what kind of test would you be, and how would most people fare?................................ I would be a multiple choice trivia quiz and most people would rate 65/100.
6. What would you like to hand out literature in the streets for? ................................ HIV/AIDS awareness
7. If you were in the circus, which act would you be?................................ (I will not be a stereotype!) the fortune teller
8. You start a musical group, what is the name of it? ................................ Slice
9. Would you ever have killed a man for looking at you funny in the Old West?................................ Yes
10. If you could sleep with a cartoon character, which one would it be?................................ John Constantine-----wooo hoooo!
11. When forced to make conversation during an uneasy silence, what topic do you raise?................................ the other perons' work
12. Why did you read the last book you read? ................................ to make better sense of its sequel which I had just read
13. Who is the strangest person, alive or dead? ................................ Michael Jackson
14. Where would you rather be and why?................................ Teaching English in the Dominican Republic/Nigeria. I know I'd be making a difference and I'd have a chance to leave everything behind for a while.
15. Do you believe you are attractive, why/why not?................................ Yes. I have a very pretty face, an outgoing personality, and usually am confident.
16. Where is the best seat on a bus? ................................ in Edmonton, on the new low platforms, right at the back on the side--they have a foot rest.
17. In the game of Monopoly which playing figure do you like to be?................................ The top hat
18. What is you opinion about waterbeds?................................ way too much trouble
19. What is your Favorite breakfast cereal?................................ oatmeal
20. Why have you decided to complete this?................................ I thought it would be fun to find out more about myself by answering questions I would not have come up with on my own!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 146 (view)
 
If you could have sex with anyone in the world who would it be?
Posted: 9/20/2005 4:43:43 PM
Viggo Moretnson--he's has a look about him that says to me that he knows his way around!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 180 (view)
 
So how many of you have met someone and had sex the same day?
Posted: 9/20/2005 4:35:02 PM
Yup. Some of them turned out to be longer-term relationships, so bonus!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 251 (view)
 
Has anyone been brave enough to meet someone with no pic at all?
Posted: 9/20/2005 4:21:48 PM
I've met people with a pic. I consider anyone I meet to be a "blind" date whether or not I've seen a photo . . . . I was very nervous my first time. Now I consider it to be fun to look around and guess who could be the one I'm to meet.

For my own comfort, I always pick a place I'd go to anyways. That way I get to enjoy myself whether or not a) the date does not go well; or b) person does not show up.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 106 (view)
 
Child Abuse
Posted: 9/20/2005 4:17:35 PM
Ladydi, I admire your courage. I've been fortunate to not yet have to face that choice in my family--neither of my siblings nor have had children. I have faced it elsewhere though and reported it. I have few categories of absolute moral right and wrong, but this particular subject falls squarely in the latter--with my reporting falling squarely in the former.


tha sherriffs dept told him all about my complaint and even how i reported him...........gave him my name and everything

One more failure by the legal system that is supposed to be working in the best interests of the child. How would it benefit your brother-in-law's child for this to happen to you? It won't. You have my best thoughts during this time.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 104 (view)
 
Child Abuse
Posted: 9/20/2005 10:08:15 AM
^^^the above was for skye2010
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 103 (view)
 
Child Abuse
Posted: 9/20/2005 9:47:02 AM
First a couple of questions. How close are you to this man? How well does he communicate with you?

Talk with him about it. Assure him that you're only wanting to help. Keep in mind that reluctance on his part could also be stemming from the fact that he knows they've been abused by someone else he's left them in care of and he's feeling guilty and angry. However, if he won't talk to you about it at all, in the end ask yourself these questions:

Will reporting this situation get him into trouble or out of trouble?
Will reporting this situation get the kids into trouble or out of trouble?

If you can answer in both cases that the answer is out of trouble (regardless of whether or not it will also get them into trouble) then I say report it. Just MO.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 102 (view)
 
Pillow conversation
Posted: 9/20/2005 9:24:49 AM
I lay in the bed beside you
confessing, hot with shame
what your daughter
my sister
had done to me
in the truck camper that day

You claimed ominscience
claimed to have known
There in a bed
where we two of the family lay
You named it incest
I was only fourteen
Incest was too big
Too definite
Too real
"Don't call it that"
I cried in shame
You nodded
And never referred to it again.

How could you
Ignore
your daughters' pain
Hers in leading her to a place
where she would violate me so
Mine when I reached out to you?
How could you take
my words (a teen's words)
uttered in panic
as permission to close the topic
as a waiver from your parental duties

For years I thought the fault was mine
I had told you not to talk
Now I feel an anger burning bright
At how derelict you were
all our lives
Abandoning us emotionally
Even while you ensured we were
fed, clothed, washed, educated

For years I thought the problem lay there
in those moments of vulnerability betrayed
in that bed
in that truck camper
Now I know that the problem started
long years before then
In the first moment you were careless
as a caregiver
And witnessed the resounding slap
on her nine-month old hand
And did nothing to reprimand
but instead
in the end
joined in.


**
Copyright 2005 Michelle Wilson
"feel free to quote it, just credit it"
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 11 (view)
 
First line poems
Posted: 9/19/2005 4:53:22 PM
hey, nuthin', thanks for dropping by! And thanks for sharing! I like what you have to say--basic yet apparently difficult, according to the headlines, at any rate. And using Restaurant as your jumping off point
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 71 (view)
 
Poker Sign Up!
Posted: 9/19/2005 10:40:49 AM
Hey all!

I've made plans for this Friday, 23rd--but I am available on October 15th! Is this still at Matt's place?

I'm looking forward to meeting y'all. Thing have come up both the past weekends so I haven't had a chance to join in at any PoF events yet.

:
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 52 (view)
 
Pass it on Poem
Posted: 9/19/2005 10:27:43 AM
that follow upon
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 61 (view)
 
Did God really create evil?
Posted: 9/19/2005 10:09:09 AM

When God created the angels he gave them free-will.

I thought that the crux of the angel's discontent was that _they_ themselves had not been given free will, but humans (made in God's likeness) had . . . . .?
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 9 (view)
 
ThankYou Much
Posted: 9/16/2005 4:33:04 PM
Thanks, oohpie! You are welcome by anytime!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 15 (view)
 
At what point does it just become gross?
Posted: 9/16/2005 4:10:42 PM
I think the gross threshold is individual.

--ahem-- (about to once more reveal herself too much) --ahem--

A fist in the bush for instance can be utterly divine in my experience. So I think I'd probably in theory enjoy the other since I also enjoy an*l s*x.

However, it could likely lead to the introduction of scat and that I am sworn off of. _There_ is something _I_ find gross!!!

But again, to each their own. Just play safe!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 7 (view)
 
ThankYou Much
Posted: 9/16/2005 1:59:24 PM
You're welcome for the welcome!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. And as to all the others--come on in the water's fine!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Pass it on Poem
Posted: 9/16/2005 1:57:53 PM
a nightengale sings
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Couldya', Wouldya', Sam I am? ;)
Posted: 9/16/2005 1:56:35 PM
I as long as I didn't find the guy repulsive (morally or physically), absolutely.

BTW, I did not find Robert Redford to be repulsive in any way in that movie!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Best Lyric Couplets
Posted: 9/16/2005 12:35:15 PM
"If I'm again inside your body, don't tell me where it's been
It's cruel unusual punishment, to kiss fingerprinted skin"

--Bare Naked Ladies, "The Wrong Man Was Convicted"
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 55 (view)
 
Can somebody please help!
Posted: 9/16/2005 11:07:01 AM

Daisy, I really want to know why you would be so upset over something most women would just laugh off or be mildly disgusted by? Why would you be crying over the mere mention of someone masturbating?

OK, I'm rising to the bait here, but seriously stop presuming everyone has your level of experience.

I was 35 when for the first time ever I had a one-night stand. I hadn't realized it would be a one-night stand. The guy promised to call, etc. etc. etc. Innocently enough, I believed him. The next day he emailed and said it wouldn't work out. I bawled my eyes out for a day afterwards.

I know from my perspective now that I was fortunate he even emailed me. Still it cut to the quick at the time.

Back before I had any experience at internet dating, I would have been crushed by Daisy's experience. What a deception--the guy pretends he's into you but only because he'll get off on you watching him.

The fact that lots of guys do this does not make it an insignificant occurence. Just as the fact that 1 in 3 women has been raped does not make rape an insiginificant occurrence. Rather the high ratio of these activities simply makes them ubiquitous which is a very sad statement on our culture, IMO.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Can somebody please help!
Posted: 9/16/2005 10:56:42 AM
Daisy,

That must have been an awful experience. As others have said, the internet is a perfect venue for flashers/exhibitionists to impose themselves with relatively little consequence to themselves. I remember the first time I opened a pic of a d*ck shot--I was shocked. I mean, if I had invited it I would understand but I hadn't. I felt violated. That's something that the guys (and women I'm sure too) who do this don't get: it is a form of sexual misconduct.

But as others have said don't let them get to you. They're here, they won't go away. Just know that HE was in the wrong. He's a ninny--block him and any others like him. And stay and get to know the rest of us!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 7 (view)
 
what do these lyrics mean to you >.>?
Posted: 9/16/2005 8:55:35 AM
A downward spiral, with a strong pull to stay in it
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Pass it on Poem
Posted: 9/16/2005 8:52:49 AM
heart's own blood
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 47 (view)
 
Did God really create evil?
Posted: 9/16/2005 8:49:06 AM
Are we not fruit from our original tree? How can a tree produce fruit that is not of that tree?

In the case of humans (fruit) and God (tree), the fruit is of the tree in that like God we have free will. God has given us that ability that is also distinctly hir own. God chooses what to do and so do we.


But more to your the point on free will, how can a fruit tell a tree what to bear?

I'm not sure what you are meaning by this.


John 15:16, clearly states that "16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you". Does anyone else get this? This is like a commander speaking to a trusted subordinate.

When analyzing a piece writing as an authoritative source, all of the writing must be taken into account. Citing statements in isolation leads to misinterpretation. John's earlier use of the "if" statement is carried implicitly into this portion of the gospel as well. He has already stated that there is an element of choice. Restating the "if" would not only scan poorly but be boring to read. I take Jesus' statement in 15:16 to mean "Whether or not you choose me, I choose you." That is, Jesus loves us and chooses us to be with him--whether we choose the same in return is up to us.

C.S. Lewis explored this idea that we are embraced by God every step of the way, even when we think we least deserve it or when we reject it, even in hell. It is our refusal to open our eyes, admit that we don't deserve to be embraced by God and accept that s/he is embracing us anyways.

The Last Battle illustrates this very well, as does to my mind, The Great Divorce. As a child, I had an innate belief in this view of God. When I read those books as a preteen I realized that I was not alone--despite being unique in my family.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Welcome!
Posted: 9/16/2005 8:27:48 AM
blitz: yea!!!!! Thanks for joining in! I hadn't read any Jane Hamilton. This quote resonates for me. It's dozen's of pin pricks that add up to the wound, not a single sword stroke, as 'twere.

Now you get to write something about the quote---what does it inspire in you?
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 4 (view)
 
George remembered
Posted: 9/16/2005 8:19:49 AM
"For forty years
my act consisted of one joke.
And then she died."

I meet you
someone new
we talk
we laugh
inevitably
you make a joke
and I reply
taking it straight
only realizing
my mistake
by the look on your face.
"Just call me Gracie"
I say
and laugh.
If you laugh with me
I know you understand,
and recognize the reference.

He was an icon of my youth
I looked forward to his
centennairy
celebration
and mourned when
he passed just months before
What I remember most
A cigar
A beloved wife
A thick pair of glasses
A smile filled with sly humour
All bring a smile
to my face
even today.

(George Burns, Gracie: A Love Story)
**
copyright 2005 Michelle Wilson
"feel free to quote it, just credit it"
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Technology advances
Posted: 9/15/2005 5:24:32 PM
"The sky was the color of television tuned to a dead channel"
How many of us know what that means?
Not the snowy reflection of fractured pixels
That erupts on the screen of the digital age
But rather that steel grey blankness of old
With not even a drop of rain to provide contrast.

I remember when I thought sunglass monitors
Were the coolest item in SF
Now you can buy them at Sony--for a price

Between technological advances
computers, cryogenics, and cloning
And the deterioration of western culture
we bomb Iraq while thousands drown in Louisiana
I'm living in a cyberpunk present.

Why any longer read fiction about it
When I can turn on my tv and see it fed live?

(Neuromancer by William Gibson)
**
copyright 2005 by Michelle Wilson
"feel free to quote it, just credit it"
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 1 (view)
 
First line poems
Posted: 9/15/2005 5:18:40 PM
OK, I thought I would try my hand at creating one of these poetry threads. I have no idea how popular this idea would be buuuuuuut . . . .

I was just over at Phish's new poetry thread and I started writing a poem. I was looking for inspiration and I thought of the opening line to the novel Neuromancer by William Gibson, so I wrote a short verse about it (see below).

Then I thought, there are a ton of great first lines from novels--great lines from movies--great lines from poems---etc. I'd like to see how these lines, these quotations have inspired people. There are several threads for favourite quotes here on PoF. In this thread, I invite and welcome your personal poetic musings on those quotes.

Rules: The quote should be the first line of the work. Please cite the source of the quote--at the end of the poem, in the poem, in brackets four lines down from the poem, etc.

I hope y'all have fun.

ummm. ummm. Please come out and play. I don't want to be the only geek!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Movies that have made you cry
Posted: 9/15/2005 5:06:01 PM

"The Champ" jon voight

oooh, and little Ricky Schroeder. I cried buckets through that one.

Kramer vs Kramer is another one that always gets me.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Biblical Quote
Posted: 9/15/2005 5:00:42 PM
In this thread, there are many quotes from the j/c bible supporting the idea that God and Satan are enemies. In reading them I was put in mind of the Book of Job which presents a different relationship between God and Satan.

For those who are not familiar I will summarize it here.

In this book, Satan, along with the children of God, comes before God one day. God brags to Satan about what a god-fearing man Job is. Satan says, "Job only fears you because he has so much to lose--if he were to lose it all then he would tell you to bugger off." God says, "Oh yeah put your money where your mouth is--go to, do whatever you like to him--but just don't harm him." So off Satan goes and takes away all of Job's wealth and lo and behold the next day Job is still God-fearing. So God brags about Job again. Satan says, "Sure but hit him where it hurts, take away his family and his health, and he'll sing a different tune." God says, "OK, go to, just don't kill him." So Satan inflicts Job with terrible diseases, and kills his kids and wives. To top it off Job is then interrogated by three bozos telling him how foolish he is for not blaming God for all that had happened. Through it all though he insists the only reason God could have had anything to do with his misfortunes would have been because of Job's own actions--and he won't speak against God because after all he deserved it all. In the end, God is of course well pleased with Job because Job continued to be God fearing. Oh and of course God rewards Job, giving him back more wealth, more children and long life.

In this book, far from being distinct from Satan, God utilizes Satan as a tool. I bring this up to highlight that utilizing the j/c bible as an authoritative source is only successful when everyone in the dialogue has the same belief about the book. As a piece of writing, the j/c bible is filled with contradictions and so lacks internal consistency and authority.

The question of whether God created evil comes down to an internal belief--regardless of what might be written down on paper somewhere.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Did God really create evil?
Posted: 9/15/2005 4:48:33 PM
I don't believe in the traditional judaeo-christian God. I was raised Roman Catholic and have chosen not to try to reconcile the hypocrisy I have personally witnessed within the institution with the value of the original teachings. Instead I have pursued my own spirituality.

In that context, do I believe that there is an entity that created this reality? Yes. Do I believe that entity created both good and evil? Yes.

Since I was a young child I have believed (being raised Catholic notwithstanding) that God loves every one of hir creations and wants nothing more than to have them be one with hir. But s/he will not command such action. The choice is placed upon the individual.

I believe that the "evil" in this world is the result of the divine gift to humans of free will and free choice. Humans are mortal and limited. We contain within us only fragments of God/the universe. We are not divine but we have been given a divine gift in free will. And a divine blessing is also a curse, but from a different perspective. The curse portion in free will is the individual's choice of "evil" or, my preference, hurtful/destructive action.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 125 (view)
 
Dating Out Side YOUR RACE
Posted: 9/15/2005 4:09:11 PM
marathonman

Celebrate human variation and cultural diversity

carribeanking

Why just tolerate when you can revel and celebrate.

Well put and amen!
If only that would be the last word!
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 501 (view)
 
What is your favorite movie quote?
Posted: 9/15/2005 3:38:42 PM
^^^ Type of the stalker and she shall appear! . . . . lol . . . . I really like Ladyhawke--if only it didn't have that fantastic 80's synthesizer soundtrack. At the time I thought it was great, now it spoils the mood for me.


I knew the Blues Brothers one tooo..

how about my quote that I posted following the BB one?
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Movies that have made you cry
Posted: 9/15/2005 3:35:06 PM

The saddest, sweetest movie of all time, and I can't watch it without crying is "Where the Red Fern Grows."


Oh yes--absolutely! I remember this one--I loved it but I haven't seen it in years.
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 499 (view)
 
What is your favorite movie quote?
Posted: 9/15/2005 2:15:35 PM
"Sir, the truth is I talk to God all the time, and no offense, but he never mentioned you!"
--Ladyhawke
 mishkarma
Joined: 12/2/2004
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Saying Thanks
Posted: 9/15/2005 1:44:40 PM
A hand made thank you card with a hand made coupon inside for **insert his fav activity here**. Be sure to put an effective and expired date on the coupon--just trust me on that one!
 
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