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sci-fi guy

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Both Atheists and some Christians deeply believe that choices make the man. Posted: 1/9/2007 5:23:01 PM
the choices doesn't make the man, the man has to make choices and are forced to make these choices from a limited set of options, so the man doesn't control the choices the choices controls the man, and these choices are contolled and granted to the man due to the influences from outside forces and the consequences that may arrive from breaking the laws of these outside forces, such as the laws of nature, the laws of society or divine Intervention ...Man has no "Free Will" and has little control if any over his fate

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What is art? Posted: 1/9/2007 12:40:33 PM
art is a commercial from the mind that is used to present new concepts to piece together and explain the accumulated knowledge of the history of existance that have been repress within the subconscious ... once art becomes stagnant so does the mind ..in other words, just doing the same old same old

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Proving the world is insane....well the people anyway. Posted: 12/29/2006 2:09:16 PM
on a more upbeat note we could probably get out of this vicious cycle by spiritual practices spiritual practices is most likely a sign of insanity

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The Case of Piergiorgio Welby Posted: 12/28/2006 11:53:40 AM
I'd rather believe in the Santa 'Clause'. it's still the same....trying to comitt sucide places you on Santa's "bad list" ...hence no toys a child may be to young to understand the concept of death, so no toys to a child could equate in a child's mind as the same as no after-life to an adult so children be good for goodness sake ..and that means don't throw the cat out the window, eat all your vegetables and don't try to committ sucide as for the case of Piergiorgio Welby, if one choose to practice a religion then they must also be willing to follow the rules of that religion without deviation and without question, and without the option of picking and choosing which rules to abide by, especially on the door steps to the pearly gates

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Other Sheep Posted: 12/26/2006 3:18:03 PM
It's the sheep who gives a "cause" to the shepherd. it's the shepherd that create the cause and do this with sinister motives ..the shepherd either feast off the sheep or feast on the sheep but whichever way it's usually in the best interest of the shepherd and not the sheep

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LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE, AFTER OUR LIKENESS Posted: 12/26/2006 3:06:47 PM
that God made Man in his own image is yet another thing in the bible that lead to all kinds of -interpretations ...if God made Man in his own image then you would think that meant two legs two arms one head and the rest of the assortment ....

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Other Sheep Posted: 12/26/2006 1:22:28 PM
And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. John 10:16 KJV Anybody care to run with that? is it something a cult leader might say?

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The Case of Piergiorgio Welby Posted: 12/26/2006 10:31:26 AM
if religion didn't have a sucide clause as a deterrent then everyone would be trying to enter into the after-life

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Would the Ideal Christian be Recognizable? Posted: 12/26/2006 10:19:49 AM
a true Christian are those that follows the true word of God that was set forth in the Old Testament without deviation and without question and without using the excuse that they are not perfect when they fail to follow God's laws

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Is Being Arrogant A Sign You're In Sin? Posted: 12/24/2006 11:13:45 AM
isn't the first sign of arrogance displayed just by being born, maybe that is why people believe that are born into sin

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Looking for God's house Posted: 12/24/2006 11:02:19 AM
no matter which religion you choose to follow you will never be able to follow all the rules that God require, and will just whine up picking and choosing which rules to follow anyway ..so the best thing to do is to pick a religion that has the best forgiveness plan and after-life package or benefits

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CAN SATAN RUN THE WOLD AS HE PLEASES Posted: 12/24/2006 8:24:49 AM
if Satan did rule the world, exactlly what would Satan be doing that isn't being done now, you can't say form one religion because that has already been done...all the governments have already joined the religions together by creating the false idol called money, now everyone willingly worship the money God even the church, no matter what you do from breathing to taking a dump you had to praise the money god to do it or get it...all Satan would have to do is to control the money and that shouldn't be too much of a problem,

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The body beautiful and men over 45! Posted: 12/23/2006 1:04:26 PM
if you take care of yourself you probably wouldn't have a problem in this area ..but to the women ....if your guy cannot rise to the occasion and after many moons you find yourself in dire need of releasing your sexual tension..here's some advice it's a phenomenon that occurs when the male tallywhacker becomes independent and comes to attention on it own either when the guy wakes up from a catnap of when they awake the next day ..some people call it morning sex or growing a horn in the morn when a guy sleep most likely he is dreaming about sex so after your sleeping honey enter R.E.M. sleep (rapid eye movement) is when this phenomenon may take place, so all the woman have to do is every now and then check under the covers and when the flag goes up the pole hop on that horse like annie oakley

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If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood? Posted: 12/23/2006 9:47:31 AM
The ability for God to know all things is called omniscience. Omnipotence has to do with God's power. isn't God just supposed to be God? ...as like God as a whole...saying god is omniscience is just another way used to confuse things...because if god is omnipotence would still means the same as being omniscience...being omnipotent means that god has inexhaustible powers of calculation...that would mean that chaos didn't exist to a God because a God could calculate any outcome of anything the God created down to the littlest detail and that would would mean that the God is all knowing about his creations

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If God is omnipotent, why didn't he foresee the Flood? Posted: 12/23/2006 8:51:53 AM
if god is truely omnipotent then that means that God is all knowing and if God is all knowing means that God would have knew in advance to what would take place let's put it this way: god wrote the script to the movie made all the sets and all the props and all the special effects and even created by hand all the solar-powered robotic human actors and wrote all the parts for all the actors in this movie and even gave them food and drinks ...but has a hissy fit and now wish to judge the actors for following the script exactly how he wrote it but there will be those that will say that the actors have free will...once you are thrusted into a situation with no say so there is no free will just choices ..and it's not like the actors have the free will not to be in the movie either god is not omnipotent or omnipotently insane

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Is Being Arrogant A Sign You're In Sin? Posted: 12/22/2006 7:34:56 AM
it's impossible for you to be commiting a sin for being arrogant as long as you are under the juridiction of a religious insitution ...because for a God to be a God would take the upmost in arrogancy ..and since the god expect you to follow his example means that a God expects you to be arrogant

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If Jesus could cure the blind, why couldn't he cure the ignorant? Posted: 12/22/2006 5:33:59 AM
Tomorrow they will step onto the street and be killed by a speeding bus. Unknown to them now, they also have inoperable cancer and will die a painful death in 3 years. isn't to withhold this type of information considered as being crude, because now you have place yourself into the position of a God, you know the destiny of your friend's life yet you would make a decision not to tell and let your friend live in ignorant bliss ...see that is why we should be able to judge god your friend may choose not to get hit by the bus on that day and could enjoy life and make a choice of dying another way three years later ..maybe something less painful and messy but if you are not going to tell him then atleast do what god did and leave a note with that information inside an apple on a tree and tell him not to read it

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Proving the world is insane....well the people anyway. Posted: 12/22/2006 4:49:16 AM
A truly sane person would be one who lives in perfect self awareness. That is, totally cognizant of his own motivations and goals, without any unconscious influence from society or his peers. He does not like this or hate that because it's fashionable or acceptable but rather because he has decided for himself. He would live totally under his own control. you just describe the free will that only a God could have ..because from infancy you have been bent shaped and twisted by the outside influences of others into someone that is not even you and some of those that inflenced you over your lifetime was most likely had a tad of insanity so most likely you pick up some of this insanity ...as long as you live within the society then the soceity is always going to influence and control you in some insane way... you are at the mercy of the insane unless you believe that everything your family, friends, neighbor and your government does is sane and to believe that proves that you are insane

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Proving the world is insane....well the people anyway. Posted: 12/21/2006 10:13:46 AM
You posit an interesting paradox. If you are insane, you do not believe yourself to be insane. If you are sane, you believ yourself to be insane, then? Humans are such odd creatures. ^_^ is it really a paradox? ..have you never thought about or even done anything that might be considered insane, and do you know of one person that never did or said something that may be considered insane ...which means everyone at one or more points in their life was or are insane

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If Jesus could cure the blind, why couldn't he cure the ignorant? Posted: 12/21/2006 8:19:48 AM
the thing about being ignorant is that it takes no intelligence, which would explain why Jesus couldn't cure it but rose to power because of it

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Was Jesus Christ the Son of God... or God Himself? Posted: 12/21/2006 6:00:29 AM
calling jesus Lord is just a sneaky way to say that Jesus is God by those that seek to break off and form their own sect and denomination in order to write a third testament and further use the name of Jesus Christ as a figure head to lead believers further away from the Old Testament which is the first and true word of god if God is a perfect god then everthing that man needed to know would have been written in the old testament unless the part was left out that God was to be the Messiah or even that the Messiah would be the son of a God, which would suggest that either the god is not perfect and the Old Testament is inaccurate or the New Testament is fake and Jesus Christ is a false prophet being used to create a human god like deity or a demi-god that is more down to Earth and more easily accepted than the new inter-dimensional God that people are now conjuring up

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CAN SATAN RUN THE WORLD AS HE PLEASES Posted: 12/20/2006 5:54:43 PM
well if it wasn't for Satan the human race would still be in the garden of eden using fig leaves for toilet paper Satan is known best for offering the gift of knowledge

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Why didn't religion die? Posted: 12/20/2006 2:47:42 PM
as long as there are questions about oneself and the answers are sought outside oneself then there will be religion, the more advance the society or technology becomes the farther out in space the god of the religion goes ...the god has went from being in the sky above to being inter-dimensional ....so religion will probably live on until man is able to travel inter-dimensional

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Proving the world is insane....well the people anyway. Posted: 12/20/2006 12:09:38 PM
By definition then, you too are insane. of course I'm insane ...the first words that an insane person would utter everytime is that they are not insane ...

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Proving the world is insane....well the people anyway. Posted: 12/20/2006 11:49:27 AM
the first rule of society is to consider that all it's citizens are insane and need protection from themselves ......from the book of sci-fi guy 3:16

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If Jesus could cure the blind, why couldn't he cure the ignorant? Posted: 12/20/2006 11:20:06 AM
How is it that Jesus couldn't cure his detractors from their ignorance and hatred for his messages of truth and wisdom? that Jesus would allow himself to be placed in a position to be nailed to a cross due to the ignorance of others makes his wisdom questionable

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/20/2006 7:19:13 AM
[qoute]ok when did this thread become about the Matrix? this thread became about the Matrix the moment it became a thought and thus making truth an illusion of deluision if the theory that energy cannot be destroyed but can be alter or displaced is accurate then nothing that is composed of energy is a contant or has a truth but the existance of energy and the existance of yourself , but then again isn't the fact that energy cannot be destroyed just as of now an unprovable theory.. which then again lead to the conclusion that the existance of one's self is the only provable existance but only provable to one's self

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Do you believe in Astrology? Posted: 12/19/2006 4:36:59 PM
since pluto is no longer considered as being a full fledge planet but is now considered as being a dwarf planet shouldn't this show the inaccuracies of astrology

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/19/2006 2:03:35 PM
Sci-Fi - Zen arguments I find to be without merit hey you can say that Zen argument is without merit because since it's your dream I guess you can make and manipulate the rules, but it still doesn't prove that at this very moment that you are not in a dream...because you just said that you never felt any physical pain in a dream ....well how would you actually know that, because when a person wakes up from a dream their short term memory loss kicks in instantly....so how could you make the statement that you never felt physical pain in a dream unless you are still in that dream ...it would be no conscious way for you to confirm to us or to your self of that statement as being accurate and if you believe you can....then you are dreaming

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/19/2006 1:10:54 PM
I find much of the view of relativity goes out the window when somebody is in a car wreck and their leg is being held on by one tendon or when one finds themselves in jail. Try telling that person they are only imagining their pain or that the bars don't exist. but the point is you may be telling people of this horror you just described while you are in REM sleep in your dreams or you could be in a coma and the leg being held on by one tendon could be your reality while you are in that dream or coma haven't you ever woke up from a horrible situation to find out that it was all just a dream and it seemed all so real, and as you sleep dreams become your reality and how would you actually know that you are not at this very moment trapped in a dream and that anything in that dream doesn't actually exist except in the dream ....but you do know without any doubt that you exist, dream or no dream

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/19/2006 11:54:12 AM
and that is why truth doesn't exist because truth changes in between perspectives and it is not constant. again there is only one truth that exist, there is only one truth that is a constant and there is only one truth that you can always prove that is a true reality ....and that is the existance of yourself and you yourself etownboy79 have just confirm that my existance became a thought in your mind...and any thought can also be a delusion, so as far as anyone else in this forum knows sci-fi guy could be a fake profile you conjured up and placed in this forum ... and that is why only the existance of yourself can only be proven to yourself and that is the only constant truth

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Would the Ideal Christian be Recognizable? Posted: 12/19/2006 7:37:48 AM
to get people to explain why Jesus died is not my intentions Lady-fair, I have been cut and paste and parrot-phrased enough not to ever want to fall into that nonsense ..I was just saying that maybe people should stop waiting on an unprovable unrecognizable long ago dead person to save them from something that if they took the responsiblity could do if for themselves

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A question for the athiests Posted: 12/19/2006 6:25:42 AM
[qoute] I am however wondering do you believe Jesus to be a historical person, once you have to believe in something whether it's in a God or in a Jesus then you at that moment have just proven it to be false simple because you haven't enough proof to prove it true is exactly why you have to believe to believe is not to know ...it's no way around this logic

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Would the Ideal Christian be Recognizable? Posted: 12/19/2006 6:17:55 AM
If Jesus were to walk in would anyone recognize him? how could anyone recognize someone they never seen and even be positive it was that person..even if Jesus had three forms of identification it could be fake, if jesus came back if would be no different then if the Antichrist show up because both would bring hell with them, and why are people waiting on jesus to save them when jesus couldn't even save himself, when you think about it there is no reason for Jesus to come back

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/18/2006 8:17:37 PM
If I don't exist I would be a fool to think that I do but wouldn't you be more of a fool if you actually believed that you don't exist ...er...because how can you believe that you don't exist if you do exist ..shouldn't the very fact that you have to convince yourself that you don't exist also prove to yourself that you do exist ...

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/18/2006 5:21:32 PM
love it or loath it are not universal truths about life, they are emotions and emotions are a mind frame that can be switched on or off and can even be faked and therefore are not a constant and this fact makes them a non-reality but reality only in the mind of the beholder

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/18/2006 2:56:26 PM
it's simple...are you going to tell yourself that you don't exist

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Is there truth? Posted: 12/18/2006 10:49:25 AM
only truth that exist is the existance of yourself and nothing else because anything else could be your delusion

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Do we live in a moral universe? Posted: 12/18/2006 10:45:29 AM
that's what I meant by niether good nor evil be but "just" "good" and "evil" or morality and immoratity are the same and differ only in the eyes of the beholder or the persons prespective "just" represents conscious ....good and evil comes and goes in and out of existance as far as your conscious allows them to

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Do we live in a moral universe? Posted: 12/18/2006 8:34:43 AM
neither Good nor evil be but "just" ....and "just" equals conscious ...

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Do we live in a moral universe? Posted: 12/18/2006 7:57:43 AM
since the universe and all that dwell within it is controlled by the laws of physics then the universe cannot be moral, and morality and immorality would be the same as good and evil are the same and would only differ in the eyes of the beholder

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