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 Author Thread: I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 562 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 3/31/2009 8:25:36 PM
So I got thinking about something.

When I was in school, there were kids who set themselves to different standards regarding their grades.
Some kids strived for the highest achievement they could attain. Grades didn't matter, they did their honest best. Some got near perfect scores, some would even fail grades, but they all did their best.
Some kids slacked off as long as they got an A grade, because that was good enough.
Some kids slacked off and relaxed as long as they did good enough to pass the course. If they failed, there was a problem. If they passed, no problem. Simple, why give it more thought than that, right?

I wonder if the OP figures as long as she doesn't get a failing grade raising a human being, then thats good enough, f**k it, time to go off and smoke a joint already.

I wonder how many other people figure thats a perfectly acceptable attitude to have when raising a human being.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 537 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/22/2009 7:53:24 PM

It's pretty clear that you don't understand reason, logic, or anything else, merely the use of force. Although that does explain your views regarding authority. You really might think about improving yourself. Trying to be better than a socialized animal. Then again you may be too far down the eugenics line that Bertrand Russell discussed for that to be possible.
Now that's an improvement over your usual snivelling.
I was beginning to wonder if you could get properly pissed off at all.
Very refreshing to witness that xeo.
Refreshing like beating a dead horse for a week until it finally farts.
Now here's a rad notion: How about turning some of that hard won anger and purging your own insides of some of your own stinking attitude?
You know, the one that keeps telling you how the USA is such a crappy place to live because of the intolerable oppression that it's government inflicts upon the 'great unwashed'.
Be angry about the bad gov't stuff and work for change, but appreciate and never forget all the good. All of it. And if you need to live in Somalia for a year to appreciate the good in where you are now, then go. I'm sure many of your fellow citizens and forum readers would be happy to contribute towards your plane ticket.


This is why people like myself who would never smoke pot will defend the right of other people to do so. I don't ride motorcycles either but you'll also find that I defend a person's right to ride one just the same. That is because it is the same thing, the right to live as we see fit so long as we do not harm others.
So indulge me here xeo, instead of screaming that the strawman is coming to molest your hind quarters again:
According to this logic, you would therefore defend not only pot smokers and bikers, but also the right of a person to view child porn online, assuming 1) It were available to view totally free of charge and in a totally undetectable fashion, and 2) That person, in no way shape or form was detected in his actions, and/or promoted the cause of child porn in any way whatsoever, and 3) That was all that the person ever did that was illegal, because.....
.... it is the same thing, the right to live as we see fit so long as we do not harm others.
??? See how well thought out your position really is, upon further examination??
Go ahead dude, defend your words. We're all listening.

Now I am real big on live and let live bud, believe me. But, are you beginning to see how this 'politically correct lets-all-be-free laissez-faire b/s attitude run amok' of people like you is overtly promoting the putrefaction of the individual from within, and that inevitably becomes society's burden in the long run? Again.... you need a more balanced attitude.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 531 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/20/2009 11:33:10 PM
Xeo, I'm really starting to feel sorry for you.
You do seem like a nice guy.
But you gotta grow a set of balls and suck up the victim attitude thing.
The way you moan, I would've thought you were living in the black hole of Calcutta, only for that the average resident there doesn't piss and moan about life nearly as much.
Look I'm sorry you got your ass resized by Uncle Sam a while back, but you gotta get over it and move on dude.
And for God's sake, stop trying to constantly reason with people when they abuse your ass. Being a doormat does not become you.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 527 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/20/2009 5:22:04 PM
What a great and intelligent response.
Truly I am a dum dum.
Thank you for exposing my foolishness.
Of course you are right and I am wrong.
Nobody gets victimized when pot is used, except the poor user.
No crimes against others ever occur due to pot addiction.
Nobody gets damaged from pot usage.
The US government is evil for suppressing pot usage.
So my path of rehabilitation into reality is clear.
I need to smoke dope.
So tonite I will do my duty towards the betterment of society by purchasing an ounce of pot from a drug dealer.

What a ****ing whack job you are xeo

 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 525 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/20/2009 3:30:48 PM
The truth is what it is, and sometimes rude.

Despite anyone's whining self absorbed 'hard done by' negative attitude.

Deal with it.

The US Govt does many things that are bad, and many things that are good. It is one of the finest governments in existence. Those who hate it should leave. Just don't move north. There's enough dope sucking screwups with a bad attitude here already.

If anyone wants freedom to suck 24/7 then move to Morocco or some other place thats already screwed up thanks largely to dope.

For those who insist on staying and getting gooned, there's lots of legal substances and of course booze available here. I have no patience for those who continue to whine that they need more intoxicants besides all that in their life.

I live in a foreign country, and I have more respect for the US than half of the screwups living there with a bad attitude who do nothing but **** about their government. The founders of the nation would puke if they could see your attitude.

Wake up, grow up, clean up your act, and quit being a burden to society with your incessant self absorbed whining and ****ing because the IRS or some cop or judge spanked your pink hiney 10 years ago.

Btw, to those with their heads screwed on straight, my apologies for being rude.

 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 519 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/19/2009 10:03:05 PM

Foolish to even question the state? Apparently, you consider it to be foolish to question the state's sole and obvious intent to impose tyranny over the poor huddled and oppressed masses. So studying the basics of the justice system is irrelevent to you, as it is simply propaganda to enslave the common man's mind. Am I not reading you correctly?


Well well, looks like your latest long winded angry straw-laden rant is simply a... 'Yes, Skyblu, you are reading me correctly with that statement'... statement in disguise.
Fine dude.
And btw, have fun continuing to live under the intolerable oppression of a state system that you hate. I'm surprised you aren't suicidal... are you?
And good luck finding a girlfriend on this site who finds that appealing.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 517 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/19/2009 7:48:49 PM
Your feelings are indeed irrelevent to 'the facts'.

But, you clearly are filtering your perception of 'the facts' through some ridiculous, overly naive, anarchistic, and narrowminded set of feelings, where, apparently, the rights of the individual should reign supreme, and societal restraints on the individual's freedom should be greatly diminished.

Foolish to even question the state? Apparently, you consider it to be foolish to question the state's sole and obvious intent to impose tyranny over the poor huddled and oppressed masses. So studying the basics of the justice system is irrelevent to you, as it is simply propaganda to enslave the common man's mind. Am I not reading you correctly?

If the population of the earth were exactly 1, it would make perfect sense to do away with all societal constraints. Being as it is more than 1, the societal constraints inevitably play a significant factor, and it then becomes a balance between the individual and society... hopefully a healthy one.

What I am saying, is that it sounds like you should take a few hours and study the basics of the justice system that has evolved over several thousand years, and which forms the basis of our modern day western democratic society. So that you can consider both sides of the equation, instead of just the one.

Then you may have a less radical, a more intelligent, and a more balanced approach to the issue of individual rights vs. societal rights.

Only a fool would choose to ignore the justice system basics and simply continue to rant only about the oppressed rights of the individual.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 510 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/18/2009 11:15:58 PM
Your expression of 'feeling ridiculed' reveals much about your own degree of open mindedness and willingness to seriously consider differences of thought.

I'm not ridiculing you. It's your job to appear ridiculous, and you are performing it well thus far.

Buy the book just like I did, and read the first chapter just like I did, and stop whining... just like I did. It's not difficult.

Then you won't feel ridiculed anymore.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 504 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 2/18/2009 12:45:26 AM

Furthermore why does the government get to decide what we can and cannot put in our bodies? Aren't we free? Isn't the most basic piece of freedom to own one's own body?
Why don't you go to your local thrift shop and spend $3.99 on a high school text book on introductory criminal law, and read the first 20 pages. Then you won't have to ask everybody this question anymore. But, in case you aren't motivated to do so, I can answer the last 2 questions with the same answer for each: Yes and no.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 321 (view)
 
Men who ride Harleys
Posted: 1/14/2009 11:36:32 PM

Not if, at the same time, the said person with loud pipes isn't wearing any safety gear
I also find it ridiculous for a person to resort to the use of the bullsh!t tactic of bringing in a completely unrelated issue in an attempt to salvage his flawed implication that in the case of loud pipes, image and safety cannot coexist perfectly.
Again, loud pipes are a preventative safety measure, so that you hopefully don't get into a bad situation in the first place.
Anyone but a fool can see that is the same truth, whether the biker with loud pipes is riding in his speedos or a full suit of armour.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 564 (view)
 
Any men over 35 seriously looking to get married?
Posted: 1/14/2009 5:34:39 PM

One question for you: Then why do I have so many female friends on online dating sites telling me a different story. Seems of the 8 of us... all met men that were looking for long term and yet all they wanted was "SEX". Ok ..... I think this is soo true!! .. But I have come up with a solution of why guys put "long term" in there profiles. I think it is an attempt to tell a woman what she wants so HE can get layed. Honestly guys.. if your not looking for a long term relationship and only want "sex" then I think you should put "intimate encounter" or "activity partner." At least that way you will be honest and not be soooo pissed off that you are not getting any, especially on the first date! COME ON NOW!!! lol
Ladies.... why oh why are you still scratching your heads??? Good grief.
9 out of 10 guys on these sites are creeps.
Which means you have to do coffee with 9 creeps to meet a possible match.
So, when you are doing coffee, and discover he is a creep, don't waste another second.
Tell him you suddenly need to take a crap, but because you are a hypochondriac transvestite you have to go home to do it.
Then go home.
The faster you do 9 'crappy' dates, the faster you get to meet a possible match.
Welcome to internet dating.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 318 (view)
 
Men who ride Harleys
Posted: 1/14/2009 5:03:20 PM

I lost 3 friends to motorcycle accidents in a 6 month period last year.... so I really don't see a bright future for you out there on a highway...it's just a matter of time
Ok, now you are making more sense to me than you ever did. Your loss has naturally caused you grief, and some of that has turned to anger. You will not blame your friends, you will not blame car drivers, so you simply blame the system that allows anyone to ride a motorcycle on the road. You think that anyone who rides will die riding sooner or later. So you don't want anyone riding on the roads. Thats fine. But try to see it for what it is. It is you trying to get through the grieving process. So, my point is, is that you are perhaps not in the best emotional state right now to argue the issue.
If 6 of your friends had died in car accidents in a 6 month period last year, perhaps you might argue that sooner or later every driver will be in a fatal accident and that nobody should be on the roads in cars.
And speaking of dirtbikes, I knew a guy whose kid brother was riding a dirtbike and the thing landed on his kid brother and squished his head a bit and he was left in a permanent comatose state. I'm not so sure the offroad dirtbike stats for fatalities are a whole lot better than the onroad stats.

The only logical answer to me is that a person that would do that is interested in image, and not safety
I find it ridiculous for a person to imply that image and safety are necessarily mutually exclusive goals. In the case of loud pipes, they can coexist perfectly.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 307 (view)
 
Men who ride Harleys
Posted: 1/13/2009 3:20:53 PM
By the time a situation warrants the use of a horn, it's usually too late for a motorcyclist, unlike those in a car. Sad but true, we have to wake people up in advance. Because there's no minor fender benders on a bike.
The police in my city are very well aware of this, some ride Harleys on duty, more off duty, and they will only ticket non baffled pipes exactly for that reason.
If a person doesn't care about these issues, then I would consider them to be a self absorbed queen who deserves to be annoyed by me.
Maybe they should try dating a biker. A couple of weeks riding around on the back of a bike would change their attitude.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 305 (view)
 
Men who ride Harleys
Posted: 1/12/2009 11:11:45 PM

...in case somebody pulls over into your lane you can honk at them!!!

I was out hunting one time when I came upon a goose. I distinctly remember him honking at me right before I blew his brains out with my 12 ga.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 297 (view)
 
Men who ride Harleys
Posted: 1/11/2009 9:35:37 PM

....cars just flat out don't see motorcycles. Also, to all you HD owners out there get a G.D. muffler!!! I truly don't see how it's legal for those stupid ass things to make all that f-ing noise and it's extremely discourteous and annoying to everybody else no matter how cool you think it is.


I personally don't like being a discourteous and annoying ***hole.

I love being one.

It's my way of getting back at 'the stupid ass things' driving cars that 'just flat out don't see motorcycles'...

and

don't see pedestrians crossing crosswalks

and

don't see kids that might dart out from nowhere.

So, if you ever find me pulling up to your drivers door, and reving the piss out of my loud Harley three feet from your left ear, and apologizing for disturbing your sleep..... well... maybe I'm trying to wake you the f--k up, before the light turns green and you launch that piece of s--t down the road, in your eternal quest to create some new speed bumps at any opportunity.

Those who truly understand the real problem out there, will not mind the noise.

It is not a person's right to drive amidst perfect peace and quiet, so that they can continue to drive whilst sleeping with their eyes open. Get the a--holes off the road who are asleep, and then this a--hole will think about getting quiet pipes. Until then, enjoy.

Sincerely,

Mr. Heywood Jablomy
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 1441 (view)
 
pot - the real deal
Posted: 1/10/2009 2:47:11 AM
Good post TDM.

Now what makes more sense folks:

1)To do life 'Their Way', to piss about with booze or pot, like much of modern society and peer pressure tells me to do, and be just another high fool,

or,

2)to do life 'My Way', 100% raw and sober, face it all, and begin to know the original, and real, 'me', and also timidly begin to approach my true 'higher power', the one who created me?

This is why I would not tolerate a pot user, because who knows how long, if ever, they would take, to come around to option # 2.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 1420 (view)
 
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 12/30/2008 3:24:36 PM
Theres 2 kinds of people in the world.

The ones who have no choice but to use some substance or another in order to not be nuts.

And

The ones who are absolutely blessed by God to be not cursed by this hideous condition, this terrible gift of suffering.

If you are of the former, quietly go about responsibly consuming whatever you need to, as most do, so that you can find some measure of peace and relief. I know you would give anything to be free of this curse, and I accept your desperate condition.

If you are of the latter, I wholeheartedly invite you to spend time with, and intimately befriend those less fortunate ones, for years, or decades, maybe longer .

It is my belief, that given long enough doing so, the outcome for the fortunate will be, that they will be seized by a gratitude for being given mental health, that is so complete, that they will not wish to compromise their lucid state in any way. They will be so grateful for being made in such a way, as to naturally reside in a healthy state of mind, without the need for the ingestion of any substance in order to achieve or maintain it.

Mental health is not a right, that is granted by the creator to all who exist, nor is it to be taken for granted.

It is a privilege, granted to some, not to others, and should be valued and protected and respected by those who have it .

There are those who would give anything, to have that which you seem to take for granted, right before you absentmindedly consume your booze, or dope, or whatever, in the name of idle amusement.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 884 (view)
 
Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder)
Posted: 12/5/2008 4:28:20 AM

I have nothing against sociopaths...... And I'm not hurt being confused with a sociopath...

You know, something has been bothering me thinking about this stuff, and my past experiences, and I have been having trouble putting my finger on it...

My ex, having BPD, (and thus also having an unstable identity), would, seemingly in pursuit of drama and/or excitement in her life, clearly and regularly, take on a perfect sociopathic personality while planning and committing acts of infidelity. She would have clear remorselessness, and no empathy or conscience anywhere to be found whatsoever. I have seen it many times, and also talked to her in this state, and found absolutely none. And, she would sometimes spend weeks convincing that person that I was a completely different and evil person. I have talked to them also.

So, is it not the case then, that during those episodes, the BPD person essentially becomes a sociopath in every way... albeit temporarily?

Of course after the event, it was extreme remorse, etc, on her part, likely designed for more gratifying attention and drama. She mentioned once, what an exciting way for her to live, full of fire and passion and tragedy and intense drama.... truly a person is then at last fully alive, and only so, during this time, no... ??

Btw, I understand this may or may not be the case for other BPD individuals, but it certainly was hers.

But, isn't the constant need/craving for attention, and drama, and the acting out to extremes to achieve it, and the 'personality adoption', including possibly 'sociopathic personality adoption', clearly part of the BPD definition? And, by the BPD individual so adopting a sociopathic persona, it then becomes so easy and effortless for a BPD individual to do whatever is needed to achieve self gratification.

So, here we have a person that essentially exhibits chronic sociopathy, through and through.

They are not being confused with a sociopath.

They have become one temporarily.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 869 (view)
 
Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder)
Posted: 12/2/2008 8:07:03 PM
I would like to theorize, that it seems to me, that there are two points to this thread:

The first point, that of the bpd affected individuals, who, despite their actions at times, first and foremost wish to be understood, among other things, as being people with a conscience, with empathy, etc, unlike a sociopathic individual. The bpd individual is a normal person acting out to drastic extremes, and that those responses are normal, due to the pressures of abnormal and drastic emotional turmoil experienced within. They want themselves to be seen separate from their actions, their sins, as they truly are caring individuals. Unlike sociopaths, who, seemingly everybody agrees, truly do lack a caring nature, and therefore, do not deserve to be separated from their sins, because they really are rotten to the core, so to speak.

And...

The second point, that of the spouse (or S/O, or some other affected individual) who would state that, regardless if the bpd individual has bpd or sociopathic or other tendencies, they wish to be understood as individuals whose lives have been damaged severely in the company of that individual. Many actions by the bpd individual seem the same as those committed by the sociopathic individual, so it matters little, or not at all, as to why those behaviours occur, to the recipient. The same damage occurs through the actions of the bpd individual, and that is what matters to the recipient.

Hmmm... I have thought of another point here:

Seems to me like there has been a white elephant in the room all along.

Seems to me that both non bpd affected, and bpd affected alike, view sociopaths as rotten creatures. The bpd individuals seem to be hurt, to no end, by being confused with sociopaths, by the non's. And the non's don't really care because the bpd individuals' actions often seem to be the same, whether they are bpd or sociopath, anyways.

Sooo... I am curious.. how do bpd individuals view sociopaths? Perhaps the same way that many nons view them... basically rotten creatures that do not deserve love because they feel no empathy, and therefore do not deserve to be seen as separate from their sins? Hmmm....
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 854 (view)
 
Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder)
Posted: 11/24/2008 1:34:42 AM

She wasn't mirroring you, she probably felt the love more deeply than you did. The love was not an illusion.
Yes, I agree here, and what was hurting me for so long back in my experience (marriage), and after, was knowing it was pure and real, when it was there.
But, over the the long term, this type of love proved itself, to me, to be not a healthy kind of love.
I call it 'borderline love', or 'tainted love'.
I was addicted to this love, seemingly like a person addicted to a substance that would get you high and then later misery, in regular and extreme cycles.
Healthy love, among other things, must be consistent, and does not disappear at times. (FYI, the best definition of love I have ever seen was shown to me by my BPD ex, from the Bible. She really tried to live up to it... you know... sort of..)

I had dated someone with bdp off and on for a year. When she was in to me her eyes sparkled and she would brighten up the entire room. It was as if she turned into this beautiful elegant swan that intoxicated me with my every desire. I truely felt as if I had found my seoul mate. (mirroring)

Lastly, like me, if you have an 'inner alcoholic' or 'inner co-dependant' or 'inner fool', or whatever similar, parked right next to your 'inner child', and most of us do, you will still occasionally suffer, and crave this 'tainted love' from your ex. The good news is, you can deal with this inner 'pest' of yours, and rise above this. Handy skill for the next time you go out on a date and meet someone new. You start by removing your rose coloured glasses, introducing yourself to your inner pest, getting acquainted, and later on, (because it lives inside you and is defenseless and can't run away), proceeding to beat its ass into shape whenever it gets out of line. So the next time you are hurting, don't get down on yourself, its just your inner pest acting up again, thats all...

 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 51 (view)
 
Why is Religion such an important factor in Politics?
Posted: 10/13/2008 7:47:43 PM
Hahaha nothing like a spat between friends to clear the room huh...
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 49 (view)
 
Why is Religion such an important factor in Politics?
Posted: 10/12/2008 9:26:19 PM

...you narrowly avoid this sites definition of libel only by not using my words more directly...... the Age of Reason that you dismiss so ignorantly and offhandedly and doubtless with little actual education about ....
Get over yourself and stop with the attempts at intimidation and insults. If you really do have a secret crush on me, then stop wasting everyone's time and just send me an email explaining it instead. Now back to topic... as you were saying:

....I have no doubt that the majority of the Founding Fathers believed in God and were even Christians..... The laws of the United States are not in any wise founded on Judaeo-Christian values at all..... No one, least of all me, is attempting to remove the impact of the religious beliefs of the Founders on the originating documents and principles of the USA


What I was pointing out, and I think the other poster reinforces by her reference to extremists, is that it is anachronistic to draw comparisons between the Christians of the 1770's and today let alone the mindset and zeitgeist of the man of the 1770's and today because it was too radically different.
If you want to point that completely different topic out now, fine, I in part agree, but it has nothing to do with what you were trying to point out earlier, which again, appears to have been 'The laws of the United States are not in any wise founded on Judaeo-Christian values at all' There was never any mention in Beachlessblond's statement as to whether those Judaeo-Christian values she spoke of were according to a person from 1770 or of a modern day person.

Which Bible? You see... that's the problem. I tried looking up the 10 commandments and the site that had a large variety of the various bibles had over 20 different versions of the commandments.
Interesting point Gandolf, I hadn't thought of that. I assumed that these men would likely be reading the KJV by then, and that it would be the most common version by then, after 160 years of it's existence.... were the existing versions so radically different though as to present a significant problem?

I don't think they revered the bible. That would make a god of a book
Well again, I assumed they revered the Bible as the, from time to time, possibly imperfectly translated Word of God, they revered Jesus as the Son of God, and they revered God as God.... maybe?
If we could see behind the reasons people give for not voting for Senator Obama, we might be looking at racism.
I was referring to Obama and McCain, racism is rampant in both directions it seems.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Why is Religion such an important factor in Politics?
Posted: 10/12/2008 2:17:36 PM

Our country was formed, based on Judeo-Christian values
Yes, partly. It is important to bear in mind that the influences include other sources as well, to a significant degree.


Respectfully, this opinion seems based on ideas that are at best anachronistic and at worst uninformed.
Wrong. Her statement is not untrue. Had she said 'Our country was formed, ONLY based on Judeo-Christian values', then I would agree with your response.
The USofA was formed in accordance with the strong societal values of a nation of people who clearly revered the Bible and its content. An argumentative attempt to surgically remove the large influence the Bible had on the people and the new nation they built is utterly ridiculous.
The USofA was built upon principles of tolerance, dignity for all, freedom, justice, and the high valuation of human life.... (except for the non-persons of course.... slaves.. women.. haha so much for your glorious 'Age of Reason' huh?... but nevermind...) Anyhoo, all these noble principles are espoused and reinforced greatly within the Bible. Having built such a national foundation, the founding gentlemen proceeded to protect that foundation by making a clear and absolute separation of church and state, so that no 'kook' may, in the future, be able to claim divine authoritative right to change that foundation. They saw plenty of attempts at 'divinely inspired' state imposed mass religious conversions in Europe, and were absolutely sickened by the resultant mass, gross, injustices and carnage, and rightfully so.
So, the USofA was founded in part in accordance with Biblical values. And because it was founded so, it was absolutely necessary for the nation to not be a 'Christian Nation', or an 'Islamic Nation' or any other religious nation. It was a nation that was, in part, founded to respect the dignity of all 'persons' irrespective of their faith. Just what Jesus taught, if I am not mistaken....

IMO, the worse the problems become in this country, the more many people will use a faith based yardstick to pick candidates. And that leaves more of a chance for an extreme viewpoint to infiltrate.
Agreed. And what sickens me more is people using a race-based yardstick to pick candidates.... which I am seeing LOTS of...
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Do you forgive if your partner is a Borderline and cheats on you?
Posted: 10/10/2008 11:29:31 PM
Well its interesting, my last post was 9 months ago.
And now, YES, YES, YES.... I completely and totally and absolutely agree with pretty much everybody.... particularly betterlate and the latest posters.
So up until 6 months ago, she tried again and again to get into my life, and when I very firmly said 'no', a week later she emailed that she wanted no further contact.
And I replied 'ok'.
And in the last 6 months of no contact since, I have come to discover that, indeed, no contact is best as I am able to move on completely.
I think deep down the co-dependent in me wanted her to come to the decision of 'no contact' instead of me, so that I would then feel less guilty, via my rationalizing that she was then abandoning me, not vice-versa....
...unless you have a co dependant mental illness..
I plead guilty as charged ma'am Actually, I really did feel terrible for abandoning her for a long time, but I can now see that is not a result of my own being, it is just the co-dependant sickness in me acting out. Having no more unhealthy relationships now, I can see more clearly how my family trained me to be co-dependent for almost 4 decades, right from infancy. I knew no other way. Really seeing for the first time how those people in my life truly acted out for their own gratification on some level or another is quite a relief actually.
Guilt is a real b!tch, isn't it?
Glad I'm done with it.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 168 (view)
 
When is it too old to still want children?
Posted: 10/5/2008 12:20:19 AM
My dad was 49 when I was born, my mom was 40.
Both my parents passed on when I was in my early 30's.
My dad passed on before his mom did, he was 79 years old.
Its all ok by me.
Too old?
Wasn't the average life span around 40 years, from waaay back eons ago, right up until the last few centuries? So what would have been considered too old back then to have kids.... 21 years old?
Humans live for an incredibly short period of time.
100 summers is next to nothing by my perspective.
You are too old to still want children when you are dead.
And with all this crazy modern technology, it might not be too late even then, genetically speaking.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 278 (view)
 
first date- he farts in the restaurant!!
Posted: 10/2/2008 11:07:17 PM
Hey caesar, have you been noticing that contributing to this forum makes a pretty good chick repellent?
You'd think it was a herpes thread or something.
Jeez.
I might have to create a new profile to erase all and any evidence that may connect me to ever having farted so much as once in my life.
And for the record ladies, I stopped farting when I got divorced last year.
Must've been her cooking.
Seriously I have farted, like, 3 times since, I swear.
Honest.
But they were big ones though.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 107 (view)
 
Does Anyone Else Worry About Growing Old Alone?
Posted: 9/29/2008 10:02:19 PM

I dont worry about it because I don't care...when im pooping in diapers and can't even remember where I am... ....Who cares.
Umm... sweetie you need to lay off the bong pipe.....
Oh, you mean doing that when you are really really old.
My mistake, nevermind.
Carry on.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Why is Religion such an important factor in Politics?
Posted: 9/29/2008 9:30:43 PM

You set up the enemy WITHIN your borders, those godless liberals, and do the same thing.
You set up the enemy WITHIN your borders, those 'godful' neocons, and do the same thing.
Yeah if we can just get rid of all that nasty conservative Christian authority, then surely our true human nature can burst forth in all of its perfect splendor from each one of us. Everyone will smoke herb, dance naked, and shake tambourines. Peace and love will reign supreme. Humans will hug trees and bunnies at every opportunity now that we are finally able to express our perfect and free loving inner nature. Because food and shelter and pot and free sex all are plentiful, nobody will hurt anybodys feelings ever.... huh?..... Rwanda?.... Wtf you talking about now dude?.... just pass the peace pipe..... everything will be cool..... I promise.....
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 249 (view)
 
first date- he farts in the restaurant!!
Posted: 9/26/2008 4:19:08 PM
Yeah how about the 'virgin fart'( hi-pitched squeak).
Also the 'crop duster'... thats one you let go in the grocery aisle while walking the length of it....
And my personal fav, the Harleyfart (or hogfart).... I eventually got tired of eating beans to enjoy that one, so I just bought a Harley instead. The cost of beans was killing me, not to mention my chapped ass.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 2555 (view)
 
Genius!
Posted: 9/25/2008 6:18:02 PM

NICE ONE SKYBLUEJEEP... but now your credibility is being questioned. Please don't tell me you actually AGREE with Sanderick? And if you do, WHY? And be very careful, because I WILL point out YOUR bigotry TOO. Man of God or NOT!
Yes Razyr, you demonstrate without question that you have been sent by God Almighty himself to serve as a sword of righteousness... a razor sharp one.... to smite, fatally and without quarter, all of the white skinned racists and bigots from the face of the earth, who dare think they can hide from your wrath and continue to attempt to unjustly stand in the way of blessed Obama's triumph .... I tremble in your presence , O Terrible One....
Ok... I'm done folks.
Now back to business.
So ok fine. I'm rooting for McCain. Not for Obama. A few simple points why:
McCain has been experienced and been around for a thousand years and he's seen it all. That counts majorly in my books. He seems sensible. He isn't a blowhard. And I really don't think he's going to croak in 48 months.
And Obama? Well the whole democrat circus scene seems to be elevating the guy to messiah like status or something. A JFK/MLKJ hybrid clone or something. And, to me, it seems like his ego is feeding off of it. And Bill Clinton called him shameless. WTF? That was a MAJOR red flag when I heard it. If this guy is shameless according to bubba something is SERIOUSLY WRONG. Kinda like if satan looks at you with disgust and calls you evil? Gotta be something wrong there.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 2548 (view)
 
Genius!
Posted: 9/25/2008 4:33:09 PM

I'm still shaking my head trying to understand your logic
Hahahaha relax sanderick, it all makes sense to me now.... all you need to do is become 'a man of God', and then he will respect you, because then you will no longer be a racist.....
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 225 (view)
 
first date- he farts in the restaurant!!
Posted: 9/24/2008 1:13:52 PM
Hey OP, you just farted didn't you.
Don't you lie to me missy.
That is just disgusting.
Well you can forget about getting any from me for the next month.
I'm serious.
Its NOT funny.
Aaaaaargh.
WOMEN....
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 221 (view)
 
first date- he farts in the restaurant!!
Posted: 9/24/2008 12:25:18 AM

sky that is disgusting and offensive.
Yeah, it is.
OP, don't eat those beans.
And don't you dare fart.
I mean fluff.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 2458 (view)
 
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/24/2008 12:17:57 AM
At it again huh. Beyond pathetic really.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 216 (view)
 
first date- he farts in the restaurant!!
Posted: 9/23/2008 5:53:54 PM
Alright, here's what we all want you to do OP:
Phone him up and tell him that you've come to your senses and that he's awesome.
Tell him you want to go to karaoke again Friday nite.
Book Friday off of work.
Start eating brown baked beans Thursday noon and keep eating them til Friday nite.
Yum.
Beans.
Keep eatin 'em.
Practice 'fluffing' silently. Women usually excel at this anyways.
Then, meet him at the karaoke place and sing a few immortal classic ballads like the Stones 'Jumpin Jack Flash'... (..its a gas gas gas.... ), Bette Midler's 'Wind Beneath My Wings'..... AC/DC's 'Thunderstruck'.....
....all the while bombing his old ass to hell and back until the end of the evening, or until he can't stand it any longer, whatever comes first.
Then get back to us and report all the details of your most fun date ever.
We'll be waiting.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Gone for a couple days, come back here and I'm blocked?
Posted: 9/22/2008 2:46:55 AM

Apparently I missed something.
Ok, so obviously she's a flake.
Be happy she displayed it now instead of later.
How did you manage to miss that?
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 2436 (view)
 
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/21/2008 11:52:14 PM
Vulf, I can't believe you responded to this:
Just a little comic relief here: Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that during the mad cow epidemic our government could track a single cow, born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the stall where she slept in the state of Washington? And, they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each of them a cow.
with this:
Picking on poor people when rich people are destroying the country is too bitter a mistake to be funny. It's the same dirty, filthy trick y'all have played over time, blaming commies and feminists and unions and niqqers and faqqots for the misery rained on you by your very own. It's an ugly way to dodge the facts and blame some "other." Spreading your pretty pink frosting all over it does not make it any less vile.
For flips sakes Vulf she is laughing at the government for their priorities. Now Vulf, I'm sure you are a nice person and very intelligent, but this kind of vile response, to me, appears to border on delusional rage. It has no rational connection to her post. Can you not see this?
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 793 (view)
 
Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder)
Posted: 9/21/2008 12:32:35 PM

I often wonder(as a non-BP myself) if I am angry at me for not being able to tolerate it anymore and getting out, or if I am angry at her (1) for putting me through the hell she did, whether she could help it or not...

Yeah I wondered a lot too about my being angry, but I'm pretty sure the root source of it is over the fact that I am angry at myself for having behaved codependantly, and thus having chosen to expose myself to this sort of abuse from people for decades. Only lately have I begun to be aware of how hardcore my codependant childhood upbringing was, and the profound and long lasting effect that had on my life. Knowing that, I am a lot less angry and a lot more kind to myself.
Quazi, that post about you muttering 'I hate you' to yourself, it seems nuts to admit it but I experience similar to that myself. Thanks for shedding light on that. Good post.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Does Anyone Else Worry About Growing Old Alone?
Posted: 9/17/2008 1:53:20 AM
Yeah I guess I worry too.
Some people just feel more lonely than others I think. Don't know why really.
I think spirituality and/or religion is what a lot of these people claim helps them. The 'With God you are never alone' thing. Is it nonsense? Maybe. But so is feeling lonely all your life. And look at how many people choose the 'happy meds' option these days... lots. Thats b/s too.
A soulmate is great, but is it a good idea to depend on that to save you from loneliness? People get divorced and croak all the time. Doesn't seem that dependable to me.
I'm pretty sure that most end up alone and with nothing eventually, no matter what. But I'll always have my Bible to read and the Word will always be with me. Maybe thats a bit pathetic to some. And maybe searching for a soulmate in this site is too. But too much navelgazing is definitely pathetic. So I'm done
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 762 (view)
 
Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder)
Posted: 9/11/2008 11:15:04 PM
Ever date someone with BPD?


I WORK IN THE MENTAL HEALTH FIELD---THIS IS A PERSONALITY DISORDER--MEANING THAT THERE IS NO CURE(OR MEDICATION TO TREAT THIS DISORDER)--A BPD WILL DRAIN YOU- --MY ADVICE IS TO RUN!!!
Well this appears to be bang on topic.
The thread topic is about dating a bpd, and this is sound advice.
I find it very refreshing and rare to find a counsellor willing to be candid with their honest opinion.
What really pisses me off now is thinking back over the years about every counselling session I ever went to with the ex that was all about 'saving the marriage', and 'dealing with her problems with me and/or the marriage', and 'learning coping strategies'. What I really would've appreciated is if a counsellor had studied the situation and just pulled me aside and levelled with me for my own sake. But no no no... the very thought of them doing that would be putting the counsellor on a level with murderers or something.
I am really getting tired of the attempts at censorship of the truth here on this thread.
Counselor06 speaks the truth.
You want some more truth from me too?
No?
Too bad.
Here it is loud and clear:
If you want to screw your life up, get in a relationship with a borderline.
Real simple.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 38 (view)
 
Why is animal euthenasia ok, but human isn't?
Posted: 9/9/2008 8:02:35 PM
Why is animal euthenasia ok, but human isn't?

Because of the Hippocratic Oath, and the societal notion that, with humans, only God gives life, and only God should take it. And with morphine, hopefully the passing shouldn't be too uncomfortable. But the Roman Way is fine too, and as long as it is self planned and administered and done properly all is perfectly legal. Of course this style of system isn't perfect for everybody all the time, but overall, its pretty good don't you think?
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 1156 (view)
 
can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?
Posted: 9/9/2008 7:16:26 PM

can non-pot smokers handle pot smokers?

Yes of course they can silly.
Whenever someone smokes pot at my house, I grab a broomstick and jam it in their butt crack and push them right out the door with it.
Makes a great handle.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 2011 (view)
 
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/8/2008 7:38:01 PM
Thanks Eric2008.
Thats explains why so many Obama supporters are slandering anyone who isn't an Obama supporter, a racist.
Label others first so the suspicion is diverted.


The amusing thing about that statement

Charlesedm,the only amusing thing about that statement is that he just made a fool out of you and it is apparent to all, yet you remain in denial.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 94 (view)
 
Crazy Neighbour - help me!
Posted: 9/7/2008 8:45:41 PM

But asking for advice does not mean I have to take it...... As for your claim that I'm seeking attention, um, isn't that what people do here - ask for advice?


Help me - I want him to leave me alone! But he's my neighbour who I will see practically every day (we live in a townhouse complex). HELP!

Does this look like she was asking for advice?
No, it looks like she is scared and was asking for help.
Now in page 4, it seems she is ok just carrying on more or less as is with the situation, and gathering advice from everyone that she can later think about and discuss.

Haha, looks like there is nothing to panic about after all folks... we just got our chains yanked again by another thread author thats all.... ho hum.... off to the next OMG drama....
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 1957 (view)
 
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/7/2008 5:13:04 PM

I throw up a little in my mouth

You should see a doctor about that.
One that treats Democrats would be likely more experienced with that problem.
Good luck.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 1946 (view)
 
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/7/2008 3:06:00 PM
Palin's favourable ratings are higher than the other 3.
Seems Americans like the "Hockey Mom".

Thanks in no small part to the Democrats, everyone is hearing about her.
But instead of doing and thinking what the Dems want, people are making up their own minds. Look at how hard the Dems are working this thread trying to get people to not like her. They are morbidly obsessed, and its rather obvious.... ick...

It's because Republican leadership tells them they should like her.
Wrong. Its because the Dems are telling them they should not like her. And people are getting tired of the Dems and their tireless and sleazy tactics.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 85 (view)
 
Crazy Neighbour - help me!
Posted: 9/7/2008 12:22:12 PM
I want him to leave me alone!

Ok.

I'm trying to talk to him less/spend less time outside when he's out there. I wish he would get a job!

Huh?

What's keeping you interacting with him? Are you scared? Worried he won't think you're a nice person? What?

Yeah, good question Silken Fire. Wondering that myself actually....

The thing is, the balance of advice has been to draw a line and cut him off - to say 'no more.' And yet, she is still accepting his gifts and rationalizing it. She is still talking to him and complaining about it, instead of turning and walking away. She has, clearly, taken none of that 'great advice.' In fact, she is as welcoming to him as she is to all of us.
Haha I agree with my nemesis on this point...

.... Am I the only one with a pretty clear idea how she got pregnant in the first place?
OUCH!! Aren't you going a tad too far with this? .... hmmm... ..... maybe not.....
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 73 (view)
 
Crazy Neighbour - help me!
Posted: 9/4/2008 7:26:40 PM
So I hear you saying you want this weird guy to leave you alone.
Fair enough.
How to get this to happen?
Assert what your needs are.
And tell him directly.
By stating your 'needs' assertively, you are being very non-offensive and are hopefully disallowing him his imagined excuse to get angry with you.
'I NEED you to leave me alone'.
And of course he will ask why.
Then you look annoyed and say.. 'I NEED you to leave me alone. Do you understand?'
If he responds with anything other than a 'Yes ma'am', or by walking away, repeat a few more times as required.
If he still doesnt leave you alone, go inside and phone the cops and start your own detailed file on his harrassing/stalking behaviour patterns, which by now it has become.

Your needs are more important than anything else here, they are entirely your own, and are private and not subject to interrogation by others.

And he has no right to be, or should be, offended by your needing to be left alone.
So you don't have to feel bad one teeny bit.
Honest.
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 487 (view)
 
Why do married men masturbate?
Posted: 9/3/2008 5:55:42 PM
Haha maybe he wants to have one on his own terms and be lazy and have complete control once in a while.
Does that make you insecure?
It shouldn't.
As long as you aren't being too demanding....
 skyblujeep
Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 1150 (view)
 
It looks like McCain's VP pick is Sarah Palin
Posted: 9/1/2008 3:15:29 PM
I WAS NOT as stated in my post saying that ALL those who don't support Obama are racist or bigots, just those who give vague, empty, un- researched reasons.



No, he's right on the money with that one.

Mungojoe, nice try to deflect the truth by throwing in yet another race card.
That statement by razyrsharp remains ridiculous, as you have now shown yourself to be as well.
If anyone refuses to see the absurdity of such a statement as that, then I feel sorry for them for having gone through past experiences that have twisted their perceptions of the truth, in regards to disallowing them the ability to interpret very simple and blatantly sick statements properly. Thats how the cycle of racism continues. I encourage you to get help.

Yeah razyrsharp, I really don't care about yours or anyones history bud, other than it helps me to feel sorry for them after they make ridiculous statements like that. Nice try to use that as a pathetic excuse tho.


I just want to point out that YOUR post made me feel uncomfortable because I think, act and feel EXACTLY what you pointed out." Amazing.

No, your statement made me sick because it is utterly ridiculous, and now in desperate response you take to slandering me as being a racist. Interesting. Again, nice try.


Sorry but, human nature and the history of racial politics in the US just don't support your contention

Sorry, but my contention remains correct. The problem is that, again, you cannot properly see my contention, likely due to your issues, and again I encourage you to seek help for them.
 
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