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Thread: FWB
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/11/2013 6:24:28 AM
This Is my very last post on POF forums ...at Hearts suggestion I am apologizing to Bronx for anything I said that was hurtful or insulting to him ..as well as to heart or anyone else .. that was not my intention ..I have realized that I no longer have a Dog in this race ..so to stay any longer would make no sense .. I can no more solve other peoples problems then I can my own .. so It is time to... Check Out ..I no more fit in here than I do any where else
Its been a blast
Deerdog has left the building
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Posted: 5/10/2013 9:03:06 AM
yes heart I did come down on him hard ..but as I have proved he drew first blood ..in his first post to me he called me ignorant insinuated I could not count .to 10 and accused me of being jealous of his future 6 figure income .. and then later said I had been the first one to come down on him ..but he had to back away from that after i pasted the actual post and he could find nowhere in my first post where I had insulted him .. but he said it sure did rub him the wrong way ..I didnt start the fight and it is in print for anyone to go back and read ..I also tried at every juncture to give him an out and every time he returned with more name calling and personal insults ..again below is my first post ..it was him who went into a flame of me ...
let me get this straight ..you have a problem having that nasty SEX with your kid in the house ..but you got no problem plastering his picture all over the internet ..on a dating site ..in every picture no less..me thinks your values are seriously screwed up
me actually thinks this is the ultimate attention seeking post ..just like your profile ..and your future 6 figure income
well if this post sure did rub him the wrong way ..I still maintain he is overly defensive
I have actually went back and read the whole thread ..and I did call him a spoiled brat on page 3 ..and a deadbeat somewhere around page 5 ...but his posts to me have been full of insults as well as name calling ..from his first one ... now I did use the names deadbeat earlier but they were used generically.. ..if the shoe fits...
as for us Heart I really dont remember when I rubbed you the wrong way .. but evidently you took it personally .. me and you have had some spirited debates over the years .. but I thought that that was all it was debate .. I never took it personally ..WE have agreed and disagreed many times ..but you have always been one of my favorite and I thought we were friends
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/10/2013 6:45:28 AM
and leave the stuff that doesnt apply behind.
I agree that this thread has been a wild ride ..but what parts dont apply ??..every discussion was an opinion spawned by the OPs situation ..and while quick to be rubbed the wrong way by opinions that differ from his on ..I see the op thinking... I see an open mind ..just in the timeline of this thread I see that at least he is considering other opinions ..and while I have been rather hard on him in my opinions ..I now think that the OP is taking something useful from this thread ..He may not admit it ..especially because I am the one that said it ..
.Op im pretty sure you dont have much use for me ..but I did not come here to piss you off for my pleasure ..although I did enjoy the spirited banter ..sometimes making someone mad is a good way to make them think..besides I will always give my true opinion no matter who dont like it
the OP has potential for a serious forumite .. he does need to lay off the personal insults and name calling ..even if he dont like the poster ..JMO
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Posted: 5/9/2013 12:23:59 PM
If he starts crying when I drop him off at school..Sorry, but that will be it for me.
he will cry even more when they pick you up because of his truancy ..i have more than a few doubts about you ..but the one thing I have no doubt about is that you love your son ..but you have to let them grow up ..you will not be around forever to protect him ..he will have skinned hearts and skinned knees .. there will be laughter and there will be tears ...and he will grow up and he will spread his wings ..and it does hurt when they no longer need or want us to protect them
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/9/2013 9:20:35 AM
^Nobody asked or made you participate in this thread. If it's such a waste of time, then you have wasted your own time.
i told you from the start ..I get payed to do this ..yea you remember my 6 figure income .. I get payed to monitor computers and I am really bored .. so wasting time is my profession ...I have no problem ..I started no thread ...I live to piss you off ..you have a nice day
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/9/2013 9:01:24 AM
ok so be it a a forum is a place to ask advice and discus issues people are having ..if your question was am I abnormally weird ..that can be answered in one word ...YES....so what your now saying is you were bored and just wasting out time too
you want the answer am I weird for not wanting a sexual relationship .. weird being a synonym for abnormal ..IE not the norm ..so being that most people want a sexual relationship ..then the only logical answer is YES your weird ...are you any more weird that most every one on here ..nope ..probably not ..we are all weird in our own little ways .. but lets reserve the forums for people that we can help with their problems/issues ..we've spent 6 pages figuring out that you are weird ..and you probably already knew that also
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/9/2013 8:41:58 AM
I don't know why you guys keep saying that I am not happy with this. I am very much so happy. In fact, I'd be miserable if it was the opposite. I have NO interest whatsoever in all that stuff
ok then what was the reason for this thread .. why did you ask if everything is so perfect ..dare I say maybe attention seeking???
so many people ask advice on here ..and all is well until someone suggest something they dont want to hear ..if all you want is affirmation say so dont ask advice if you already have your answer ..that is attention seeking ..you will not get a cheering section on here ..so tell us were you really saying ..."hey look at me im above all you people that need sex ..Im a saint all I do is stay home and protect and tend to my child "
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:04:35 AM
Bronx ..I see you have edited your profile ..good move ..you have potential .if I had not pissed you off ..you probably would not have seen your profile from my point of view ..that being said and the fact that you are thinking about the things we say ..tells me your heart is in the right place .. now back to your sex life or lack of it .. the fact that you referred to masturbating tells me that sex is a part of your life ... and right now considering the trauma from your relationship with your parents and the abandonment of you and your child by his mother ..I can see why sex /companionship seems not important to you .. but just the fact that you are here asking proves that the thoughts haven't completely left the building .. as your child develops more independence you need for interaction with the opposite sex will return ..if you fight it you will be unhappy.. if your unhappy your child will sense it and be unhappy .. a happy parent is the most important thing toward the healthy development of a child ..of all people you should know this ... your child will accept that his Dad needs and has adult friends ..IE girlfriend/s ..and as he learns about sex he will accept that his father is a sexual being .. in a healthy child there is no trauma in knowing their parents have sex ..sure they dont want to see it or talk about it ..but they accept it just fine ..and as he grows and starts having sexual feelings himself ..there will be no guilt or stigma attached to the fact he wants to have sex ..as i said in an earlier post ..the most healthy developed children come from a home where sex is open .. not taboo..and discussed as to its importance in a loving relationship
I hope at the age of 4 your son has his own room ..I hope he no longer sleeps with you ..if he does you are creating .a whole different set of issues for him ..but If he sleeps in his own room he will not have a problem with his dad having a sleep over friend/girlfriend ..and when he gets old enough to find out sex is happening ..by then it will be a none issue..when you have a friend over close the door ..just like you do when you choke the chicken
thats what Barney tapes are for .. when my kids were small we put Barney in the VCR turned up the volume ..locked the bed room door told the kids if they knocked on the door someone better be dying or seriously hurt ..or the house on fire ..hell for years every time Barney would come on I would get a hard on ..I Love you..You Love Me ..we're a happy family ..la..la..la
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Posted: 5/8/2013 7:29:29 PM
many things and people in your life will rub you the wrong way .. learn to live with it without coming back with insults ..goals are great but you did not state it like a goal ...if your situation dictates you not working till your child is in school ..fine ..but you stated that you were doing this because you didnt want him exposed to people undesirable to you..(im paraphrasing here)which what i hear is that you want your life to be all fun and games with your child while we pay for it ..in your sarcasm post you even stated this if you spend three years or better not working or schooling ..that is lazy .. you have explored the apprenticeship thingy ..then explore some kind of home course ..be constantly moving toward your educational goals ..not just treading water..as long as your moving toward being a productive citizen ...I have no problem assisting you ...
maybe I did rub you the wrong way ..then you got defensive and sarcastic and started calling names .. I hope you are moving toward your goals .. if this be the case I suggest you leave these forums ..this little skirmish is nothing to what they did to me when i first started .. you have to have a thick skin to do these forums ..but if you do stay and participate in the forums ..it will thicken your skin and open your mind ..we are blunt and your feelings are not our concern .. expect any subject to be picked apart from every angle ..it will be
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/8/2013 6:57:17 PM
let me get this straight ..you have a problem having that nasty SEX with your kid in the house ..but you got no problem plastering his picture all over the internet ..on a dating site ..in every picture no less..me thinks your values are seriously screwed up
me actually thinks this is the ultimate attention seeking post ..just like your profile ..and your future 6 figure income
rude? maybe but I would say blunt and to the point ..please show me where I called you anything in this post or insulted you ...i did question your judgment ...and values concerning all the pictures of your child ...i still do
and I questioned your intent for prognosticating your income down the line ... as well as your reality for doing so ..
I have been in the work force for twice as long as you have been alive ..I have been from rags to riches and back to rags several times ..I now pretty much have my future in the bank .. but even now I know enough about life not to say that I know the financial situation I will be in in 2 years ..and neither do you..sorry but attention seeking is the only motive I can come up with for anyone predicting they will be making a 6 figure income ..in their profile..just saying
actually in my first post i neither judged you or assumed .I just stated what I thought and said... me thinks
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/8/2013 6:27:24 PM
And to deerdog1: Don't judge a path that you have never taken. Before you judge my life, my past or my character, walk in my shoes, walk the path I have traveled, live my sorrows, my doubts, my fear, my pain & my laughter... when u have lived my life then u can judge me.... Dont judge me based on your ignorance.
And its he's not in "every" picture. You need to learn to count a bit better bud. So taking advice from someone who can't propely count numbers less then the number of digits on his hands, I wouldn't take that person too seriously lol. And yes, my future 6 figure income. Jealous much? ;)
I guess that is how you would remember it ... above is your first post to me after i pointed out that I think that putting pictures of your child on a dating site as well as your prediction of your future 6 figure income was attention seeking
sorry friend but on the personal insult score card you drew first blood ..go back and read it ..just saying
you have no idea what paths I have taken in my life ..and assuming that you do makes you the immature one ..I judge you on your quick to get defensive posts ..it has been my experience in life that those quick to get on the defensive have something they feel they need to defend
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Posted: 5/8/2013 3:51:35 PM
I went to the thread indicated. I personally wouldnt bash this man at all. Hes trying hes hardest against the odds so a bit of guidance and support from others might be better.
great ill bash him it is him that come off with the entitlement attitude .. he is a deadbeat why would I believe his version of why his parents have disowned him ..maybe you do but I smell a rat and my rat identifier is working fine
deerdog1
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Posted: 5/8/2013 2:33:03 PM
Given the cost of childcare here I would be inclind to think its not worth going to work because the childcare costs are so high you cant earn enough to live.
you forget that within a couple years the OP is going to have a 6 figure income ..that being said Im sure he could make ends meet..if he wasnt to damn lazy
oh im not that conservative ..some people need help ... and as long as they are trying and contributing help them with the basics ..food water and a roof ..as well as a means to pull them selves out of entitlement... but .nothing else if they are caught abusing the system let them starve
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Posted: 5/8/2013 2:21:20 PM
It will sooner or later stir some unrest amongst those who fairly contribute.
I agree except for I believe that the limb will snap all at once ..we have had this unrest and warnings for years ..and yet we let the slide toward entitlement continue ..actually in the name of Altruism we accelerate it ... no the tree is already bent when it snaps the people that dont see it coming the lazy and entitled will go before they know what hit them .. grizzly or lap dog it matters not one day they will think they are entitled the next day they will be running for their lives
Hunger Games ?? it wont be a Game
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Posted: 5/8/2013 1:59:09 PM
you can take it to the bank the world is due a global purge .. last historical purge was because of a aristocratic entitlement there were to many non producers on the upper end of society ..this time the entitlement culture is on the lower end of society ..but when the pendulum apex's..when the entitled out number the productive ... you can bet it will move the other way to its valley with a velocity that will purge the world..survival will override compassion ... we are a killer society ..compassion is a made up emotion when society breaks down its dog eat dog ..the lap dogs wont last long the wolves will purge them rather quickly
they politicians which you think are compassionate .. are that way because they think looking compassionate makes for expediency on their political agenda ... but let me assure you their wealth is their agenda .. whatever party liberal or conservative their agenda is themselves .. as soon as the pendulum apexes they will be the first to loose their compassion ..this has been demonstrated many times through out history..the politicians that got your entitlements will be the first to say eliminate you
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Posted: 5/8/2013 1:25:33 PM
you can devote all your time and attention to your child ..and you may well enjoy doing so ..but in doing so you will cheat him from learning about balance in life ..and he will grow up thinking that life is all about him ...he will become feeling more entitled that you are .. and this is going to be a problem for him ..you may well make it through the entitlement generation without ever having to fend for your self ...but He wont you can bet on it ..and then one day a rude awakening
Life and society is a pendulum..it swings one way to its apex ..and then the other way going to the other extreme ..we are seeing this in a buffered way in smaller European Countries whose economies have become one sided toward the entitled ..But the effect has been buffered by bail outs from ..larger countries whose economies are still skewed toward producers ..but one day not so very long from now one of the bigger economies will fail because of a majority of entitled people ..and then when the pendulum apex's things will move the other way ...slowly at first where producers refuse to give to dead beats ..then the deadbeats will rebel because they know no other way ..but unlike Greece..and other countries the bigger countries will not be there to buffer the effect ..then the pendulum will pick up velocity..in the form of WAR ...War between the producers and the deadbeats ..this will be a short War because the entitled have no drive or resources to wage War with .. this will end with the pendulum at its lowest point with all the deadbeats dead in the street .. You say this wont happen Governments /police will protect me ...my Friend it is the Governments /Police that will be killing you..or your son as the case might be ..and then the pendulum will start its climb to the other extreme where you work and produce or we kill you..where crime is met with swift death or not so swift death whatever amuses the ones in charge .. you think this is not so close ? take it from me Humans are a survival animal ..when the non producers outnumber the producers.. we will purge the deadbeats ..which side do you want your son to learn to be on ..if you truly Love him you would teach him it is wrong to take without contributing ..or maybe before then something happens and you are not able to spoil him ..if he has your entitlement frame of mind ..it is You that he will blame ..thats what spoiled children do ..they Rebel
and that is exactly what you are a spoiled child
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Posted: 5/8/2013 11:11:13 AM
no one would have a problem with you taking 3 years off to be with your kid but you are letting taxpayers pay for it.. we dont owe you a damn thing
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Posted: 5/8/2013 11:01:20 AM
Google Humber bro, its there. Damn USA dont get good stuff like that eh? lol
I done said we dont suffer bums as well as they do in Canada ...darn they got all kind of welfare programs up there for deadbeats ...down here you actually have to go to school for a degree ..and you actually have to work to raise a kid ..no I take that back we have dead beats here too ..we just dont give them college degrees for being a deadbeat
Cant blame "some" women who are on welfare, at least they are taking care of their responsibility. I'd love to see you try to do what we do all on your own
No they like you are letting the rest of us take care of their responsibilities ..I know working single moms and dads that work more than one job and still take care of their kids you are not a single Dad.. you are a deadbeat with a child ..I feel sorry for the child
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Posted: 5/8/2013 10:47:44 AM
I am going back to school this year in the fall when my son starts school, to obtain my Bachelors
September, when my boy starts school. Taking apprenticeship. I get paid for the job I do at the same time as I do the schooling
darn you get a Bachelors degree from an apprenticeship... cant keep your lies straight now can you..??just keep rolling your eyes you will have another excuse in September
I dont like my kid being put in some random's care during his early years.
I dont blame you they are liable to put him in the care of some punk ass person with their hat on backwards and body art all over them who actually has enough integrity to actually have a job
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Posted: 5/8/2013 10:13:44 AM
Employment Insurance (EI) provides Maternity and Parental Benefits to individuals who are pregnant, have recently given birth, are adopting a child, or are caring for a newborn.
forgive me .. where I come from one has to have at some point have been employed to draw unemployment Insurance ..and it dont last for 3 years ..and you have to be able and seeking work ...welfare by any other name ..your living off the taxpayers ... your living off elderly people like me that actually work ..and my guess is after your child is in school you will find another excuse to live off the taxpayers ...and that 6 figure income will all ways be just a few years down the road for you...and by chance you do ever get a job its going to get very hot in those thick long sleeve shirts all day .. no one is going to hire you as an investment or finance broker with all that body art showing
VVVV not my money I live in the USA we dont suffer bums as well as our Canadian neighbors do ..yet
hey I have a marvelous idea for you why dont you have that FWB relationship and knock her up ..I bet with another illegitimate child you can ride the welfare train a few more years
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:31:52 AM
well I scanned your profile I didnt count the pictures... tell us again just why are you here..most of us come here looking to meet someone ..then some of us stay for the forums .. so your on a dating site just to pull our chains ..
And yes, my future 6 figure income. Jealous much? ;)
My friend ...Im 56 years old and have been making 6 figures for longer than you have been alive ..jealous NOT
just curious now and for the past 3 years since you took a maternity/paternity leave who's income have you and your son been living off of ???
was child birth very painful when you had your son?
actually I am looking forward to a couple years when I can walk away from the rat race and the 6 figure income and amuse myself reading post from wet behind the ears guys like you ..wait that's what I'm doing now...and im getting a 6 figure income for doing it ...lol
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Who initiates..............
Posted: 5/8/2013 9:12:49 AM
though unconventional your type relationship makes for a very satisfying time for both partners
I myself have a switch personality both in the bedroom as well as outside ..Hell I may even be bipolar in sexual regard... switch personalities get along with switch personalities well ..but one has to be the dom-switch and the other has to be the sub-switch
the dom- switch will choose his role for the encounter and the sub-switch will assume the opposite role.. the dom-switch will choose to be either aggressive or submissive ..and the sub-switch will take the other role the next encounter may be different
a dom switch usually can get along with either Dom or sub personalities in the short term
I am a dom-switch and it may be that this is what your partner is also... however when in a unicorn situation the guy has to take on the sub role most times for it to work ..most times he takes on the role of spectator ..unless or until invited to join in..at that point roles may change depending on the personality of the unicorn
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Posted: 5/8/2013 8:47:43 AM
^^^^^^ yes exactly when I was a teen I dated a girl and was invited into her home ..views concerning sex and or nudity in her home were the most liberal I have ever seen ..and I have allways considered my self very sexually liberal...I became an accepted part of this family ..and among accepted family members nothing was hidden in this house ..the passion between Mom and Dad was displayed openly as was the sexual relationships of the siblings...no they didnt have sex in front of each other but when a bed room door was closed ..privacy was respected and the fact that sex was happening in said bedroom was not hidden .. nudity inside the home was normal and accepted ..actually when the family members came in the door they made a line to their rooms and most of the clothes stayed there when they returned
when first subjected to this lifestyle > I admit I was shocked ..but I came to appreciate the openness and honesty it afforded ..and after a while it seemed normal ..I saw none of the problems that I saw in other more conservative homes ..in many other relationships the girl I was dating sisters have made a play for me .. well I have seen all 4 of her sisters as well as her mom naked but all of them respected our relationship
I am still acquainted with this family and still to this day .. all 6 siblings as well as the parents seem to be well adjusted productive members of society ..to my knowledge not one of them has a black mark on their character ..
much more so than other friends who were raised in conservative even religious families
actually this is the only family I know that every sibling all 6 as well as Mom and Dad are still married to their first spouse ..If I had not been so dumb I might have been still a member of this family
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Who initiates..............
Posted: 5/8/2013 8:21:07 AM
Lol..........it is a HE I am in relationship with. I am bi. He knows. He allows. And wants to participate if it works out. He thinks he's hit the jackpot.........
that little bit of info would have been useful up front
what your seeking is a unicorn relationship and in almost every case the female part of the couple is the aggressor..but if your talking about the relationship between you and him then the dynamics of that will be determined by your personalities ... your post and your profile give way to many variables
many times men that have this kind of relationship are not aggressive..passive personalities in the guy are usually more conductive to getting 3 somes with your wife and other women ..IE hitting the jackpot
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Posted: 5/8/2013 7:48:54 AM
I have found that many women do not have an aversion to women having FWBs ..but they do have an aversion to men having FWBs..this is the same mind set that many women have about cheating ..if a woman cheats she was driven to it or she is justified because her mate is probably cheating .or abusive or inconsiderate .or some reason
but if a guy cheats it because he is a cad ..now Before I am beaten up ..I didnt say all women but i do see this trend ..I even have seen it in the forums here ..If a guy wants an intimate encounter and he opens a post he will be jumped on immediately.. but a woman can want an intimate encounter and it is ignored or overlooked for the most part ..its like women subconsciously think if a woman wants to just get laid thats her right ..but if a man just wants a piece of tail he is a bottom feeder from hell..and this is aside from whether he openly admits that is his intentions or not..or whether she admits that is her intentions or not
if a guy says he wants a relationship but after sex decides the woman is not right for him .. he is a player ... if a woman says she wants a relationship and after sex decides the man is not right for her ..well she saw red flags and escaped further trauma
if a woman is in a FWB and starts getting feelings but the man dont want a relationship with her ...he is using her and breaking her heart IE hes a player
if a guy is in a FWB and starts getting feelings ...but she dont want a relationship ..then he knew what he was getting into from the start..and she has every right to break his heart
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Posted: 5/8/2013 7:02:30 AM
I feel it's my job as the female to be seductive and receptive and aware of his needs, and keep a "hot" vibe ever present.
But it is the male who always initiates in my case.
I make sure he knows I am always ready, whenever he needs me. But *for me* actually initiating would cross the line into too assertive for the sort of dynamic I have with a male.
but the op is a female seeking a female ..so in her respect how would we answer her question ???..i guess if we think the male should initiate ..then it would depend on which one was playing the male role ..or which one was playing the male role that night..just saying
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Posted: 5/8/2013 6:56:31 AM
let me get this straight ..you have a problem having that nasty SEX with your kid in the house ..but you got no problem plastering his picture all over the internet ..on a dating site ..in every picture no less..me thinks your values are seriously screwed up
me actually thinks this is the ultimate attention seeking post ..just like your profile ..and your future 6 figure income
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Fisting!!!
Posted: 5/5/2013 6:43:27 AM
Can a man um..hmmmm well to put it delicately do for himself what dogs do?
darlin... if i could have done that I would be a very rich man ..for every other dollar I have ever made has been spent in one way or another the pursuit of the almighty poontane
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Fisting!!!
Posted: 5/3/2013 11:05:25 AM
We all have pre established notions in our head ..that are incorrect and could be insensitive or insulting to others ..if they are taken apart ...even the most open minded among us are not immune to this ..and in this respect I think that not only poster but readers should keep an open mind ..and not be so quick to call each other out on these things ..its all well and good to point out but most of these post contain no malice
deerdog1
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tips on becoming a better sex partner
Posted: 5/3/2013 7:00:58 AM
my guess is it has nothing to do with how good you are in bed and more to do with you just not being a good match for them or them not being interested in anything long term ..I have been with lots of women over the years and the worst I ever had was wonderful..what I'm saying is some of the women have been better in bed than others ..but I have never broke up with any woman solely because of her sexual performance ..it has always been my experience that sex between two people gets better as they get accustom to each other
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Fisting!!!
Posted: 5/3/2013 6:44:15 AM
My point was more in line with the reality that most straight men wouldn't even think
of being fisted anally in part because they've never had anything in thier azzes,unlike Bi men.
ok Heart you havent offended me ..I just want to point out that having something in your ass in no way accounts for being gay ..lots of men who are as strait as arrows..including me ..like ass play whether it be a finger or some other appliance or body part .. as long as it is being put there by a member of the opposite sex or ones self ..then what may or may not have been in ones ass has nothing to do with sexual orientation.. no act defines sexual orientation .. sexual orientation is simply whether you are attracted sexually to members of the same or opposite sex ..its just that simple
even guys that have been raped or molested as children are not homosexuals ..so in reality you could have had many penises in many places and that does not make you gay or BI
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Fisting!!!
Posted: 5/1/2013 11:21:17 AM
That's sick.
thank you...thank you very much
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Fisting!!!
Posted: 5/1/2013 10:39:57 AM
I had one experience with this ...was with this woman several years ago when I was working in Texas ..we met in the course of my work and dated while I was out there ..It wasnt a one night stand but we both knew that when my work was done that we would most likely never see each other again ...well the first night we were together ...she kinda shocked me ..she said "I want you to fist me " ..I said " you want what " she said I want your whole hand in me.. now I was skeptical because I am not a small man and I have got a very large set of meat hooks on me ...but I aim to please ..so let the games begin ... well she had a tube of lube I didnt notice what it was maybe STP motor treatment or something I dont know ..what I do know is it was the slickest thing I have ever seen ...my guess is you could grease up a telephone pole with it and slide it up a gnats backside .. any way she lubed up my whole hand and instructed me how to point my fingers together and slowly start working them in and out ..well in short order I was in up to my elbow then she told me to make a fist and start twisting it ..which I did .and she started cumming and squirting and gushing ( this was my first adventure with this also)and screaming and jumping up a down ..I actually thought she was having a seizure and started to remove my hand ..but she grabbed it and said "dont you dare stop yet " well I aim to please ...so I continued to twist and turn my fist until she collapsed in the pond on the bed ..then she said now fvck me ..and Im thinking ..now this is really not going to be very tight ...holy mother of mass destruction was I wrong ..she wrapped those long legs around me and summoned muscles I didnt know women had.. she milked every drop of energy I ever thought about having out of me ..God T want to go back to Texas
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Waiting for Love to have Sex
Posted: 5/1/2013 8:43:23 AM
me thinks that in any relationship I will know before the first date ends if there is a potential for both sex and Love ..heck I usually know with in the first 15 minutes ..I have been wrong on the love factor ..its much easier to fake lovability than it is to fake sexual chemistry
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how do u handle being a virgin past 25
Posted: 4/30/2013 2:24:58 PM
even a blind squirrel will eventually find a nut
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Training needed? Seriously?
Posted: 4/30/2013 1:51:57 PM
happynewstart
I agree that these things in your post do happen.. but let me assure you that they have no barring on the women in my past ..I am now and have always been the most sexually liberal person one could Imagine In my younger years both my girl- friends and girlfriends tended to be on the more promiscuous side as far as their historical stats go ..I myself have always been fond of sex and saw no problem with my girlfriends having a past as I did too..I won the affection of my first wife by taking up for when she was labeled a slut which technically due to her past was so ..but to me current fidelity was and is all that matters ..after this incident we started dating and had a hot and steamy courtship and proceeded to marry ...the first year was HOT the second year was NOT and at the end of it we divorced .. this pattern has followed me through many relationships ..and with exception of 2 women the sex has started dying as soon as we began cohabitation... and that holds true for my current wife .. she is my best friend ...and we get along great ..we just have no sex life to speak of ..she cant or wont tell me why she no longer wants sex ..and at my age it is much easier to live without sex ..most of the time ..but being as a sexual person as I am it seems such a waste ..things should and could be much better for both of us
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Training needed? Seriously?
Posted: 4/30/2013 9:08:04 AM
All I can say is WOW my post yesterday...I expected it to stir up the conversation ..im really not sure about the percentages ..I just pulled them out of the air but there is a lot of what I described ..women that really dont like sex after they are attached ..and I got one comment and she didnt disagree with my contention ..women tend to back each other up so I expected more to disagree with me but evidently not
so lets explore the why .. from a layman's point of view as I am in no way going to insinuate that I can think like a woman ..so lets strip out of the equation the two women in my past who I am convinced love sex ...and ask what did the others have in common ...well I am going to eliminate one thing .. It seems to have nothing to do with them being able to enjoy sex ..;as every one of at least claimed to orgasmic ...many of them when the occasion where they did have sex were really into it and professed that it was great ..yet getting them in the mood to have sex with the man they profess to love becomes harder and harder as the relationship ages ...Now almost every woman that I have ever became intimate with has a story to tell about trauma in their past ..either abuse as a child or an abusive or selfish lover in their formative years ..but this includes the two who obviously love sex also ...the one thing that comes to my mind having known all these women is many of them have presented the idea that somewhere they were told that either sex is wrong or good girls dont ..I have sensed that some where deep in their subconscious there is guilt for liking sex ..when they are dating being a bad girl is necessary in order to attract a man but when they are settled down the guilt overrides the want to... and the need to attract is no longer pertinent..I present this train of thought not because the two who love sex wernt told these things but because both of them have a devil may care personality along with their lack of sexual guilt ..neither one of them have a problem that the world may think of them as bad girls the one trait I have seen in both of them are self proclaimed bad girls .. the type personality that could care less what others think about them ..this is the one trait that separates these two from the many others ..these are the two who didnt buy into the puritan ideas that say Good girls dont like sex which were fed to them as children
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Training needed? Seriously?
Posted: 4/29/2013 1:17:31 PM
Women cant be trained ..About 20% of women like sex and will make it a point to make sex as good for both them and their partner/s as it can be... for most of the rest of them sex is just bait to catch a man ..they may act like they like it and they may even get good at it ..but as soon as they feel they have what they were trying to catch ..sex becomes way down on their priority list as well as being good at it ..unless by chance they find themselves back in the need of landing another man ..then they will bait the hook again ..most of them even convince themselves that they like sex ..until again they have what they really wanted ..most women will deny this because they either fall into the 20% and dont believe it about the other 80% or they are in the other 80% and have themselves brainwashed ..look in my long and sorted life I have been in many long term relationships ..and all of them has been Hot to Trot before the commitment..swore that they loved sex ..but only 2 have not sidelined their interest in sex as soon as they were secure in the idea that I was not leaving...Most women actually think they are the exception to the rule ..and you may be but when 10 of you get together and talk about how much you all love sex 8 of you are lying albeit maybe to yourselves..and the thing about people that lie to themselves ..even after the truth manifest its self they will blame their change on someone or something else ..usually their mate
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New to rough sex.
Posted: 4/25/2013 9:37:13 AM
Heart ..for give me for presuming to know something
.until you have sucked scabs off of a man's d*ck,and not been able to touch him without feeling disgusted,as it covered over 80% of his body at times
I also am afflicted with pretty bad psoriasis..and in my experience psoriasis is just a nuisance...I promise you I dont have scabs on my dyck although that is one part of my body affected ... hydrocortisone cream is your friend ..especially in the hot months I will get rough patches on my body ..and I instantly reach for the hydrocortisone cream 10... and by next morning my psoriasis is at bay .. now when I was younger before I learned how to treat it ..I did from time to time get pretty scaly...and itchy ..I cant imagine why anyone would bare the torment of psoriasis.. maybe the hydrocortisone cream.. dont work on everyone's psoriasis.. but from the first time the doctor told me about it I have had no more scabs on my dyck or any where else
maybe my posts in this thread have been mis placed ..my intention was not to justify the OPs cheating ways ..but to bring attention to the injustice of women that cut off the sex yet stay with the husband ..no in these cases it dont justify cheating ..and in my case it dont even justify thinking about cheating yet I believe that when a person male or female is being denied their needs at home they all will think about cheating .. and walking away is easier said than done no matter how justified a person would be in doing so
marriage bonds form deep .and people will suffer bold injustices holding on to those bonds ..and as it is said the person with the least to loose from a relationship ending ... controls any realtionship
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New to rough sex.
Posted: 4/23/2013 12:55:53 PM
Ok ..I understand your reasons for divorce Heart ..but take away his alcoholism ..take away his anger management problems ...and even take away his emotional unavailability... and though i dont understand what his psoriasis has to do with it take that away too..and your left with someone who you like everything about besides the fact that they no longer want to have sex with you..add in kids and grand kids ..and then tell me you would leave the marriage ..not so easy to do now .....so either you cheat or you spend a life time thinking about cheating ..and I think in reality which either path you take will be full of regret and unhappiness.. this is the life I have choose but I still dont think it right ...for when I choose to fall in love with her she was full of passion and convinced me she wanted me as much as I wanted her.. I know we are many times blinded of our own actions ..but if I am at fault for this tell me
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New to rough sex.
Posted: 4/23/2013 10:59:53 AM
I can understand the op without condoning ..I am totally in Love with and married to a woman who has almost Zero interest in sex ..and sex with someone who is not interested is pretty cold ..other than sex we have a great relationship..this has been worsening for years ..and at one time we did divorce but we got back together and things were better for a while ..while unlike the op I am not cheating ..but my needs go on ... Many times I have thought about cheating ..and cannot say that given the opportunity during a weaker moment I can see it happening ..I have had opportunities as well as very weak moments ..for me they just haven't coincided...or I may too have cheated ..morally I dont condone cheating but I also understand the op not leaving his wife and also I understand the burning need to be wanted and to have sex ..frankly I know there are women that continue to live with men that are no longer the men they married ..and also there are men that cant leave a marriage even though their wives no longer live up to their marriage commitments ..believe me I have done everything I can think of to get to the bottom of why my wife no longer cares for sex .. I have explored every possibility that It could be something that I have done to turn her off ..and even she cant tell me whats wrong ..I have asked in every way imaginable ..however when we were apart we were both emotional wrecks .. but I wont come down on the op as hard as you guys have ..because I have walked in his shoes ..and know that a weaker man..or even I in a weak moment could stray
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For The Guys- Would you seriously date an ex-prostitute?
Posted: 4/18/2013 1:12:56 PM
In one word ...YES ..I know many women that have found themselves in the dire position where their sexual services was all the marketable assets they had between their and their children's starvation..I know One in particular and she is no more a prostitute at heart than any of the fine women on here ..however the fact remains that she did sell her body in order to feed her children after her no good husband was killed by the police during a robbery... Actually I admire her and women like her who used what assets they had and then pulled themselves up out of the gutter ...Still she considers herself an ex prostitute ..I consider her close to a saint .. dont judge till you have walked a mile in someones moccasins
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Haven't told my GF that I get cold sores. Am I a bad person?
Posted: 4/17/2013 12:35:08 PM
well Im not sure whether Hydrogen peroxide will kill the virus ..but it will aide in healing the open sore ...thats for sure ..however household bleach will kill the virus ..as well as bacteria and dont burn as much as Hydrogen peroxide however the virus does not reside in the sore but in the nerves so unless you are going to inject your cures they wont kill the virus as a whole ..and if you do they may kill the virus by killing the host .. however using Hydrogen peroxide as well as bleach may be very instrumental in preventing you from transmitting it to someone else ..and neither one will do harm when applied topically
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Steubenville rape case
Posted: 4/17/2013 12:01:34 PM
for me this comes down to one point ..it is always wrong to have sex with someone who is not able to fully consent ... I was taught this from a early age ..and have never even wanted to stray from it ..I hidnt have sex with my wife on my wedding night for exactly that reason she had too much to drink and passed out .. there have been many occasions where my date was drunk and I could have took advantage and most likely it would have been ok but even if it is ..where is the pleasure from having sex with someone who is not going to remember it in the morning ...always when a woman becomes drunk I become their protector
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Haven't told my GF that I get cold sores. Am I a bad person?
Posted: 4/17/2013 11:07:16 AM
herpes /cold sores are a much bigger deal to people that think they dont have it... than it is to people that know better ... problem is that over 90% of us have the virus in our body ..and its a sure bet that nearly 100% of us have been exposed ..I myself have never had a cold sore on my mouth or any where else ..but I have dated several women that have had them ..one of which when I was a teen and before we knew that it was herpes ..so I have both kissed and had oral sex while she had an active cold sore on her mouth ..so all this herpes talk is just nonsense to me
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What are the best ways for a man to escalate from date to sex.
Posted: 4/1/2013 2:06:27 PM
either buy a Harley or an engagement ring ...i prefer a Harley
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How to handle these requests...
Posted: 3/26/2013 2:32:18 PM
spooky ... girl you might just be surprised just how many men there are that like chubby chicks ..me being one of them ..what guys dont like is women that are obsessed with the fact they may be a little large .. if you gain confidence and personality your weight will make no difference to many guys ... you look very attractive to me dont let a jerk get you down ..you will find guys that think they can use you .because they have used other chicks that feel they have a weight problem ..your weight is only a problem if you let it be
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Question For The Ladies
Posted: 3/26/2013 12:09:30 PM
nope never been turned down for sex ..I learned early ..never as a question that you dont already know the answer to
deerdog1
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Need Help Creating Excitment
Posted: 3/23/2013 10:53:33 AM
well my wife has this vibrator..i cant remember the name ... its got twin 150 horse evinrudes four speed with over drive ..it has been a really good one weve had it four years the last payment is due next month .. and it still runs like a dream ..it has shook 4 beds apart and has caused the ceiling to fall in the bed room ..the first time we cranked it up the neighbors horse ran through the fence and it took us the rest of the night to catch him ...but he has gotten use to it by now ..he just cant stand up in the pasture when its running ...my wife has gotten a little desensitized by it but when I make the final payment I intend to buy the nitros oxide attachment ..if you do buy one of these it is recommended that you contact the seismologist at your state university ..before you use it ..so they dont issue earth quake warnings..oh yea you cant own one of these if you live within 100 miles of a sizable body of water .. you know the tsunami thingy
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Husband wants to watch
Posted: 3/23/2013 10:35:55 AM
I really doubt that your guy has any gay tendencies ..There are a lot of people both men and women that have fantasized about another person doing their spouse ..or about sharing their spouse with another .. whether they really want to live it out or not ..I admit that those thoughts have crossed my mind also even though i am content to keep it between my ears not between the sheets ..I think its kinda like a taboo effect ..a guy likes to think of his wife in a slut role ....i have met couples that are in to doing this and ..surprisingly many of the guys are jealous of their wives when they are not involved ..yet will share them when they are... of all the couples i have encountered who are into this the wives always say they love to be sandwiched between two men .. of people that I know who have these relationships or have threesomes on a regular basis ..its the wives that sing the praises of this lifestyle the most ..the husband seems to be the one who initiated it but its the woman who really gets into it ..especially when two men one woman are involved
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