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Lonewolfoo9

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Do you believe in Astrology? Posted: 1/7/2007 10:12:07 AM
Eye, I hope you don't mind but I will elabortate just a bit more. Headstrong is not stubborn, Aires represent the warrior in us. The ruler of Aires is Mars, now mars can be in a soft sign or a hard sign at birth. Such as if your Aires was in Pisces, you would be a dreamer working towards some artistic goal because it offers the Aries influence of transendence, often getting an impression from another plane of existence. Therfore the Aires in you would be soft compassionate and would lead to action concerning the inflicted, you would not like to see pain in other. In a sense you would be a spiritual warrior. Say Aries was in Capricorn at birth, you would be stoic, cautious, ambitious . You would take your time to complete any task given to you. Less compassion because you would understand that the way out of any situation is to work hard, no romaticism as with the Pisces influence, you would need to produce instead of being lazy. In physical sense a need to produce. Now take that into consideration and the idea of Aries, of being who you want to be (identity) and living the life you desire to live with either Pisces or Cap as the ruler of the sign. I am trying to give you an understanding of the depth of the chart. Its very complicated once you get the gist. A generalization of Aires is not the end all. --On the contrary, my former wife complained that it takes me too long to reach my decision and take action. (that does not say that when you decide that you do not act instantly once you made the decision) People who view the world in more black and white terms than I do often are much quicker to take action. I tend to view the world as having lots of grays so it takes me longer to sort through all the options.-- This has nothing to do with the sun sign. Its based on the attitude which is the beginning of the inner chart or the rising sign. Its part of the mental faculties such as Mercury(mind) and Uranus (individuality) plus Venus (self worth and emotions). Here let me give you an understanding of how the planets work. Sun--Spiritual energy Moon--the personality and how one shows there emotions Mercury--the mind, what area that the mind originates Venus--self worth, emotions Mars--physical energy Jupiter--reasoning and philosphical views Saturn--your personal relationship with reality Uranus--your individuality and how if functions Neptune--how you transend and rise above situations, illusionary and visions, the imagination Pluto--transformation and resurrection. the area where one recreates oneself. Nodes of the moon--North node, the direction ones energy is moveing towards South Node, the area in which we absorb energy that moves us forward. This is on a wheel of 360 degrees with 12 energy zones and with aspects. Lets say an aspect of 90 degrees between Venus and Saturn-This would indicate a person who is unaware of how they show and emit there emotional self worth in the physical. There would be a conflict with there emotional self and that of there realtionship to reality. They would be unasured of themselves. Lets use the same planets in a trine. venus trine Saturn--and easy flow of energy supporting the self worth and proper display of there emotional self on the physical, confidence. Lets add Uranus in the picture and with an opposition to Venus in the first 90 degree example, the sense of being unassured would create a conflict with the individuality of the self thus creating a person who would be reliant on the feed back of others looking for approval. Now with the second example the trine and venus opposite Uranus. This person is so self assured that they tend to confront others over there individuality and become extreme if someone was to try to force them into conformity. They would feel detached form the crowd. Oppostions are conflict. Carl Jung, Galileo, Kepler, Shelly, Da Vinci where all astrologers. These are not supid people. Many modern day Phycologist are now studing Astrology. The idea of Astrology and Astrologers is to help people focus there energy in the proper direction according to the chart which is a blueprint of the personality. To help avoid or lessen any future conflicts with progressions and help them understand the self. Some people who live simple lives do not need the help of Astrologers, but we all know that there are those whose lives are so complicated that the need for assistance is necessary.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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Are Messianic Jewish people still Jewish ? Posted: 1/6/2007 6:21:44 PM
I don't know if this is my opinion but one taught to me. A Jew is a believer in the God of Abraham. Abraham was spiritually awaken to the fact of a one God. He had a spiritual awakening. Now Moses was not alive then and so I guess the name would be more like Hebrews. Jews also were not the chosen race, God did not chose the Jews, the Jews chose God. And because they chose God during the exodus, they considered themselves to be chosen when in fact its the other way around, is it not. Plus from what I understand and don't hold me to it, is that. The early chirstians were Jews first, and Jesus was a reformer, therefore the fullfillment of the law. Jesus then taught love and not the fear of God. The reason why many Jews in the past believe that Christ was not the Messiah is because of the catholic claim of devine birth which would be a no no to the Jewish belief that no man can be devine. Its not the belief that Christ was NOT the Messiah, its that Christ was not devine at birth. Which I believe also. Christ had to become the Messiah and practice Gods lifestyle so that he could become enlightened and function with God Consciousnes. Thus, The Father and I are One. That Jesus understood that Man and God are one, if we allow ourselves to live in Gods reality. Seeing that the Jewish people do not believe in the trinity, then they have no connection to God but are more like servants as Christ tried to promote Oneness through the Holy Ghost as Gods energy with all the qualities and attributes of God. Therefore with the holy ghost (energy of some form) you can become one with the creator. From what I understand, told to me by a Kabbalistic Rabbi.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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Do you believe in Astrology? Posted: 1/6/2007 5:29:56 PM
--the three Wise men were led by a star, supposedly... what do you really think that means...-- Interesting you should note that. The three wise men were astrologers from Babylon, and the Babylonians where in effect a part of the earlier Sumer race who where the first Astrologers know to mankind at 4k BCE. The star they followed what not generally a star but a planet. Jupiter. Christ was born with Venus, saturn, jupiter, moon and the planetary nodes in Pisces. Early christianitys symbol was the fish. what the wise men followed was the retrograde action of saturn as it made its conjunction to Jupiter with the stellium in pisces. The middle east is ruled by pisces and thats way there is so much fanatical religious vigor in the area. Pisces also rules Oil. The early Greek Gnostics referred to the heavens as "The Hall of Records". Interesting is it not. Astrology has opened up so many doors to philisophy and culture I think that everyone should at least understand that it has a way of changing the way you perceive what you experience. The ancient Sumers had a list of names that they used for the planets, discribed by them and with some knowledge of Pluto, Uranus and neptune which we only discovered in the last 150 yrs. How did they know about them. Sun –a sphere- (Apsu) at its center and was circled by spherical celestial bodies. They knew of Mercury (Mummu), Venus (Lahamu), Earth (Ki), the Moon (Kingu), Mars (Lahmu), Jupiter (Kishar), Saturn (Anshar), Uranus (Anu), Neptune (Ea), Pluto (Gaga) and a mysterious celestial body known as Marduk or Nibiru. Marduk is the Babylonian god. Now if that is not of interest to those who speculate, could you please tell me how they knew of these outer planets 4,000 BCE.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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What Religion Are You And What Are The Fundamental Tenets Of Your Beliefs? Posted: 1/6/2007 5:35:32 AM
--Really, whose to say say if they are the same or not? Whether there are one or many? Attempting to answer such questions for all men seems pretensious and even sacriligeous, and has always caused more strife, division and confusion than it ever has brought anyone closer to God.-- I don't know if I agree with this or not. Its not a matter of criticism on my behalf but for me, people choose what is in harmony with them on the inner, and when that happens the path is open. Take for instance the Book of Enoch which was left out of the bible by the Jewish people. The reason for it is that, in this book, it deals with a hierachy of Gods and Goddesses. Its left out of the bible because it does not deal with a singular God. (Explained to me by a Kabbalistic Rabbi) But when you read the commandment of "Honour Thy Father and Mother", to me does not represent the parents but the duality of spiritual experience, and the God/Goddess hierachy. In one of the letters I recieved from a Kabbala site, it mentioned how mankind use to worship Aliens. You could have knocked me over with a feather. But this gives credence to the ancient Sumers, which is to lengthy to get into here. --Attempting to answer such questions for all men seems pretensious and even sacriligeous, and has always caused more strife, division and confusion than it ever has brought anyone closer to God-- I think the reason for this is that so many of us are so conditioned not to explore the possiblitiy of connections. The conditioning is a roadblock. What make this thread a pleasure to read is the idea of the spiritual quest we all are experiencing and the foundations of your particular beliefs. It is so insightful that not to compare and understand, we miss the true essence of each post. I think a strong element of open mindedness is in this thread. As a Gnostic, the quest for me is to understand all spiritaul paths, I for the life of me do not know why, it just is. So JMARS I hope you understand that, your statement is so valid and because so many who do not Try to understand each other, creates the confusion.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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Do you believe in Astrology? Posted: 1/6/2007 4:17:39 AM
Well Eye4light, I hope you understand that I am not here to convert you over to Astrology, thats your choice. But in Astrology there are a number of factors that lead up to a personal profile. Such, as in Aquarius and Regan. If you studied Astrology you would understand that Aquarius rules the higher mind, its also eclectic in structure, which means that change comes in the form of truama. Sudden, and extreme. Not necessarily problematic but eye opening. Also its the Water Bearer which means that its a spiritual sign of energy or the holy ghost. Aquarius also rules the 11th house of hopes and wishes or accomplishments. Its a goal oriented sign and solid or fixed. Constant. Changes come erratically. Aquarius also rules Science, and we are moving into an age of Aquarius, look at the scienctific community today and in the last 20 yrs. We are just beginning to understand the deepth of Science now. Regan was very ultraistic, he valued a good debate without harbouring hard feelings. Also he was extreme with his policies of finace because he understand on a higher level the value of the buck and the process of how money in debt finacing worked. Also he was a Liberal at one time and switch his political views but still held the strong belief that its people that matter. He valued freedom which is Aquarius in nature, "Gorbechev tear down the wall". Also, Regan met John Lennon at a monday night football game, and they got along famously, You'd think there would be a clash but both Regan (Sun sign Aquarius) and Lennon (moon sign Aquarius) had more in common than they really knew. Take that into consideration that his rising sign was Capicorn and you see a combination that when he experiences a new element he proceeds with Caution which is a Capricorn trait. Serious but also childlike in nature. Not one to fool with. In astrology there are 12 houses and 12 planets (with double rulerships) that combine and create 144K different combinations to reflect the personality. So to generalize in Astrology as the Newspapers do is entertainment. You are unaware of all of this because You have prejudged and condemned it. As Kepler said, "Sir I have studied Astrology, you have not" and its that simple. But I will interject something I feel many may not understand, the idea of judgement is needed in this world. If we do not judge we cannot understand, the biblical form of Judgement is based on condemnation. Its not our right to condemn. Its our duty to understand which leads to forgiveness and compassion. The bible was not written in English or modern form. Its based on a limited stucture of Semantics of the time, thus allegory in the form of myth. Mythology has many meanings in a simple story. Joseph Cambell was excellent at understanding this structure. --Could it be that no one born at the same time as Reagan is unfriendly or not “open to anyone” or not an ultraist? I’d find that hard to believe.-- Why is it hard to believe, ever notice twins that are born within seconds of each other. They finish each others sentences often, studies have proven the closeness of twins many times. But I have not met an Aquarius that was not in part a humanitarian. Many Aquarius and Pisces people will give you the shirt off there backs in a troubled time. Also, Aquarius as all signs are in everyones chart, we all have them throughout our charts. Dig a little deeper into it and you may awaken something within you. Lets look at Aires in a sun sign, I am sure you know yourself. Aires can be headstrong, not stubborn but in a sense wish to be a leader or pioneer. They are the first into a situation because they are affirmative and take action quicker than most. Its the sign of birth, the beginning. They often opt for what is new, and wish to explore all possiblities, but they also are like a match, once lit they engulf themselves into a situation, to a certain point then burn out. They always need something new. Compare that to a taurus and you got a person who pretty well refuses to change, they need to change with trauma as all fixed signs do, they values resources and work hard to maintain a steady supply. Simply Taurus has more direction then Aires. Brief but to the point. Your an Aires, you are headstrong because by your writtings there is no "if ands or buts". Your also a photojournalist (a pisces element strong in your chart I would assume) which allows you to explore to pioneer. The generalization of the sun sign is there, but the real you as a person lies in the interior of your chart.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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What Religion Are You And What Are The Fundamental Tenets Of Your Beliefs? Posted: 1/5/2007 6:09:13 AM
--I think Christianity in itself needs quite a lot of explanation.-- Not really. For instance. The Four Noble Truths 1 Life entails dissatisfaction--dukka-----Christ calls this sin. 2 Dissatisfaction is a result of clinging, craving--trishna------desire 3. There's an end to all dissatisfaction --nirvana----On earth as it is in Heaven 4. The way to the end of dissatisfaction is the path--maggha-----Worshipping. The Eightfold Path right speech right action right livelihood right effort right mindfulness right concentration right view right thought Christ called this Righteousness, In the Islamic traditions they have there own terminology and as with all other beliefs. There is a thread of familiarity with all religious beliefs, Each belief is catered to the race and culture of the peoples who worship or study there spiritual masters. NO one is left out. Even in pagan worship and tribal shamans, it all boils down to a main theology. You can pretty well see it all in there teachings, what we must learn is not to worship the messenger and not the message. There is no follow the leader to God (spiritual Ecosystem) it must be accomplished by you on a personal level.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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Do you believe in Astrology? Posted: 1/5/2007 5:23:34 AM
Astrology is not about judgement, its completely the opposite. Astrologers are generally the most non judgemental people I know. I have been practising Astrology for over 35 yrs. I have a clientile, they pay me money. Now either I and them have missed something here or Astrology is solid. The planets represent the energy emitted by the Godhead. Its a language as mytholigical language is. Mythology is like a picture, and the Chinese say a picture is worth 10,000 words. Something most people seem not to understand. Joseph Cambell would be a good starting point for those who wish to see deeper into the Mythological. When you are born, this is the point where you left off. Its a state of consciousness with all the attributes of the personality. What it represent is your attitude. Time does not go backwards but forwards. Therefore the planets "represents" the forward movement of the Godhead. God is talking to you in life. As Life. Therefore God is moving you forward not backwards, we do not regress, but we can stalemate ourselves by having a closed mind. Mind is the builder. "Millionaires do not have astrologers, billionaires do" JP Morgan, Evangiline Adams was his astrologer. Joyce Jillson was Regans astrologer. Regan was an Aquarius, Ultrasim. He was extremely friendly and very open to anyone.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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Support 1st U.S. Army Officer to Speak Out Against Iraq War Posted: 1/3/2007 5:48:33 PM
Gentlyplease, please, if this officer fought or not, he has a right to his opinion, and by what he says is that this is a misalocation of the use of US forces. They are dying for no reason, again. And tell me, how do you protect someone in a war.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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What Religion Are You And What Are The Fundamental Tenets Of Your Beliefs? Posted: 1/3/2007 5:41:23 PM
Laws to me are nothing more than rules, the truest law of God is creation and creation is pyshics, energy, magnetism/ These are laws, what Islam, Bhuddism, Zen, Christianity, Judism and so on, are doorways of understanding and supplied to those who feel most comfortable with them. I find it interesting that the majority of this group are Christian, Islamic, and Pagan. With the odd athiest in it. What seems to irrate me about this is that each club knows what there contenence is, for that club. For me, I cannot seem to understand why anyone would pick a religion in the first place. Whats the point. Religious doctorine to me is nothing more than people trying to interpit an enlightened persons knowledge. None of us truly understand who these people are. If we did, we would be exactly like them. The point I am making is that religion to me is a starting point to deeper understandings of these teachings, there not laws as to say, they are guidelines to higher understanding. Unfortunately to many people only see this at face value. Its much deeper than that for me. --The Fundamental Tenets Of Your Beliefs -- God is totally a giving and loving God, unconditionally. Even if you are evil. God allows you to experience this. If you are rightgeious then you will have that, God cannot differentiate. My Tenet is this, we live in a giant ball of pristine light, all enternity is in it. All life is in it. There are different levels of this light, we all dwell on these levels. What we consider to be good may be bad and what is bad may be good. Such as Love, if love is when you care about someone more than you care about yourself then vanity and ego are elimenated. You are second. This is God, God is second in his books but not ours. God is unconditional love, he allows us our own paths and supplies the experiences , fortunately we are made in his image therefore eventually you will come to the light, no matter who you are or what you done. If God is a fogiving God, then he is not concerned with sin. You are. God commands that you do not judge others therefore God does not judge. You judge yourself according to God essence which is the holy Ghost. Or spiritual energy the emmulates from the Godhead itself. We are out of balance with this, why. Because we are in the World of Sin as Christ stated and all Christ ever tried to impress upon us is that we must love and forgive (understand). There is no way out of here but one way. Death, and if you graduate you need not come back here anymore. The earliest forms of Jewdism, Christianity (Gnostic), Bhuddism, Zen and so on deal with reincarnation. LUKE . 9:18 And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his disciples were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am? 9:19 They answering said, John the Baptist; but some say, Elias; and others say, that one of the old prophets is risen again. 9:20 He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God. If that isn't reincarnation what is. Isn't it funny that in the bible we study one family line, and in Islam its the same. Does that not tell you something.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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What Religion Are You And What Are The Fundamental Tenets Of Your Beliefs? Posted: 1/3/2007 10:15:32 AM
I am a Gnostic, I believe that God is one with us. I also respect all forms of belief and theology if its based on Monothiest.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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A question for the athiests Posted: 1/3/2007 9:54:55 AM
What an interesting conversation. The pros and cons are obviously the argumentative force here. Some are asking for proof. A typical modern expression that places the truth in the hands of scientist. A group of people who are only scratching the surface of Science. I do not think that those who put the hole in the ozone and radiation on the planet to be authoritative of any philisophical belief. The Council of Nicea in 325 CE, was to decide if the new reformed Jewish religious beliefs, Christianity, will be one of either the Gnostic belief that God dwells in us all, "God and I are One" or if Faith is the modum for the Christian theology. Why the council in the first place, if a entity such as a Messiah was not influencial or did not exist. Of course the Romans had much to do with this new philisophical belief and transferred a lot of there special Mithric holidays into Christianity, simply because the Romans may have needed a way to bridge the gap between pagan and Monothiest. I am sure a whole population that has grown up in Mithirc religious understanding may have needed a better way to explain there ancient beliefs in modern form. Secondly, Jesus was crucified by the Jewish religious order and the political Roman society. If Christ was crucified by the Romans alone, would it make the news, or if Chirst was killed by the Religous Zealots would Christ be known. Of course not, Christ was Crucified by the political religious power brokers of the time. In that way, mankind would know of his existence. Thusly after Christ was murdered then the Romans and the Jews would have done what ever possible to destroy any knowledge of Christ. Except one thing, after the council of Nicea, the Gnostics buried there writting, as in the Nag Hamandi. Lets take this a step Futher, in the Book of Creation by Aryah Kaplan or better known as the Sefer Yetzirah that a man that lived 2k yrs ago> I will parapharse the statement: -----This is in reference to the use of the Sefer Yetzirah--- The first reference to such use involves Rabbi Yehoshua (ben Chananya) a leading sage of the first century CE. He is credited with the saying that "I can take squashes and pumpkins and with the use of the Sefer Yetzirah, can make them into beautiful trees." Although the phrase Sefer Yetzirah does not occur in printed editions of the Jerusalem Talmud, it is found in Manuscripts. This reference to Rabbi Yehoshua is highly significant. Rabbi Yehousha was one of the five main disciple of Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai (47 BCE-73 CE) leader of all Jewry after the distruction of the temple, and renowned expert in the occult arts. It was Yhoshua who Rabbi Yochanan's main disciple in the myusteries of the Markava (Chariot). and he later gained fame as the greatest expert of his time.---- I find it interesting that this all occurred at the same time as Christ, could Yehoshua be Jesus and Rabbi Yochanan be John the Baptist. After all it was John who baptised people and that is the foundation of Christianity. So the beginning of Christianity was not Christ by John the Baptist. I find that extremely interesting. Of course some of you may not be familiar with the Kabbala except because of Madonna, but its been around a lot longer than her. And from what I now understand is that the Jews do not deny the life of Christ, they simply refuse to see Christ as a devine birth. Thusly that Christ was no different than any other man.

Lonewolfoo9

Joined: 12/29/2006

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LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE, AFTER OUR LIKENESS Posted: 1/3/2007 8:39:45 AM
--Perhaps erroneous, but it's always been my understanding that the two lineages referred to in the New Testament were lineages that lead to Mary. Do you have support outside the New Testament that the two lineages mentioned aren't in relation to Mary?-- Not really, except a few Gnostic writings that believed both Mary and Joseph were in the line of David. I found them quite interesting and please, I am not a big fan of the Da Vinci Code. For me, I have a hard time swallowing a virgin birth, but not a hard time understanding that a Christ was born. For me, Christ was a reformer of the Jewish religous beliefs and a Shaman. -You don't find this more pertinent in respect to, say, a golden cow, than you do to deifying humans? Isn't the commandment that says 'Thou shalt have no Gods besides God' the commandment that would more support your assertion in this case?- 1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 3) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is heaven above or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down to thy self to them, nor serve them. I grabbed these off Wikipedia, not really in context with some spiritual writtings such as the Kabbala but with this, for me, I see these two verses have different meanings. The first verse represents to me, that there is a supreme diety that, lets say governs a hierachy of spiritual beings such as Angels. Now Angels according to some writtings are of one function, either they are totally Positive or totally negative. Unlike man, Angels cannot experience its opposite. We do! The third verse is what I was getting at, that no matter how we concieve a God, we could never really totally understand what a God is. Therefore if we create Idols even religions they will fall short of what a God really is. Can anyone hear really explain what a God is. So the whole concept to me is based on Faith or Trust. Which is what faith really is. So once you allow Gods will to govern you, you have taken God into trust that he will guide you. I am even not sure if I should call God a HIM or HE. -Ever heard the term ‘humanoids’?- According to the ancient Sumers we were created by a group of Aliens called the Annunaki who altered the genetic structure of the Homo Erectus into Homo Sapiens. The Sumers lived 4k BCE, the oldest recorded civilization on the planet. Plus, the ancient Sumers knew about such planets as Pluto, Uranus and Neptune. At 4k BCE. Samuel Noah Kramer wrote the book on the Sumers and the guy is no fool. Not like some speculators who impose such ideas as Stitchin or Gardner. But a documented book on Ancient Sumer Writings, translated into modern English. A very interesting Book. --I agree with you on this, God is God and He always will be God,-- Its stated that God is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. For me this represents that God is experiencing physical life thru us. Which is why we must love one another.

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