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 Author Thread: If a woman asks a man out shoud he expect sex?
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 88 (view)
 
If a woman asks a man out shoud he expect sex?
Posted: 10/26/2007 9:36:42 PM
In this regards, one can categorize men into two types.

1. The ones that lack intelligence and consideration but make up for it with an overdose of testosterone and selfishness. They act on basic urges. These men try to read "I want sex" into just about anything a woman does.

2. Thinking men that are flattered when a woman approaches them, and appreciate an opportunity to get to know the woman better. These men are intelligent enough to know that the woman has risked being rejected to possibly get to know him better, and will not insult her by responding in a manner that is derogatory to her. He understands that it is *possible* the woman is after sex, but that it is wrong to assume such, and if he assumes such, it's probably wrong.

I like to think I fall in the second camp, as I believe I have class. The first does not.
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
mutual masturbation
Posted: 10/24/2007 8:00:43 PM
It's funny ya know. 20 years ago or so, the mention of masturbation was a taboo. Women claimed to have never done it, and most men could not mention the subject around women without being embarrassed.

Today it's refreshing that such subject matter can be freely discussed. Women talk openly about their style of vibrators, and men admit they actually enjoy having the attention of a lady observing them do something so private and intimate.

I'm glad most on this thread are open about this type of thing. As for me personally, I find the concept a very erotic type of foreplay. My favorite is to be giving her oral as she does it, then feel the vibrations of her orgasm through my lips and tongue.
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 75 (view)
 
When a famous person gives you their number......
Posted: 10/14/2007 7:32:33 PM
I too had an experience with celebs...3 times. It's not hard if you live in LA. I was never the Casanova growing up, and don't think of myself as particularly handsome...just down to earth, friendly.

Celeb 1: Met her at the gym. She was one of the models in one of the Superbowl commercials and was on the cover of a bunch of magazines (Vogue, Cosmo, etc.) Went out, never got serious.

Celeb2: I met her at an event I for underprivileged kids I threw at the Playboy Mansion. She was a Playmate and on the cover a few years earlier.

Celeb3: She was one of the main stars in one of the Star Trek related series. Met her on the Internet...yep...long story I'll tell if someone messages me.

Anyway, all three had the same issues. They included a total self orientation (well, not so much the last one), and all three had other guys they were with but concealed that from me. None of the relationships lasted long.

Celebrities, especially the models and actors, typically become celebrities because they crave attention, need to be the center of the universe wherever they are. If you feed that, give them 1,000% of your attention and never expect them to even notice what you're wearing or ever care what you do for a living or anything else about you (except your financial condition), and...if you make sure the conversation *always* is focused upon them, you might just get along. But trust me, it's very tiring. It's like running on a treadmill as you got to constantly throw your energy at giving them full attention, and the minute you focus on something that is not of an interest to them (which is usually them), you pull the plug on their attention.

But if she's not in the spotlight nor cares to be, is unimpressed with name dropping and celebrity types, and really wants to know who you are...regardless of whether she's stunning or not, be careful if you spend too much time with her because you just might get a huge dose of happiness.
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
The hottest ways to touch him... there
Posted: 10/14/2007 10:41:13 AM
I think any woman that would bring this subject up with interest is a woman that any guy would be damned lucky to have. Just can't wait until they event that space-time machine that makes distance a non-issue!
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 138 (view)
 
and the winner is....
Posted: 10/14/2007 10:07:18 AM
Wow, there are some great posts in here...really funny folks and laughed my ass off.

But the best advice (in my opinion) is gazingatmars, some real wisdom in her post. Kidding aside, this is becoming an increasing problem as our cities grow denser, construction gets cheaper and apartments get smaller.

It may be that she is completely oblivious to what she's doing and if you let her know, she would be mortified - and if that notification came along with your sexual interest in her, she just might freak out making a very awkward and uncomfortable situation.

Conversely, she good be a bit of an exhibitionist and is playing with you. If you like here and her attitude, there might be a door opening...so to speak.

If it were me, I'd follow gazingatmars advice. I'd introduce myself, get to know her in a friendly way and see if there's mutual chemestry - but never mention the secret. If it ends with an intimate encounter, then finally discussing it would be an added bonus with her.

But if you want her to stop or to know, you could introduce yourself sometime and say "You know these walls are very thin and I know we can hear just about everything in the other apartment - so let me know if I'm singing too loud in the shower." If after that she keeps it up (or gets louder), she probably really is teasing you with it all.
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 62 (view)
 
chicks that approach the guy first...
Posted: 10/13/2007 10:45:09 PM
Let's face it. No one likes to be rejected. But when it comes to affairs of the heart, it's the worst kind of rejection. And unless they're an adonis, most men are rejected, and some brutally as one of the previous posters noted.

The reason women don't believe that men do indeed like to be hit on is that if they try, they experience what men are used to experiencing...rejection. They then assume men just don't like it.

I've been hit on by women, and usually am flattered. I respond nicely to it. And one of my longest relationships occurred when she approached me leaving no doubt - I was excited she did, and it was wonderful for over a year.

The question then is whether the woman can handle the pressure of making the first move, getting rejected, then, trying again with someone else.
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
How can I tell If Flirting is Flirting or Serious Interest
Posted: 10/13/2007 10:01:20 PM
The original question was targeted for ladies' to answer, for good reason. But I'll chime in that I too have wondered. What I've learned over the years is that from an early age, there are the p-teasers that thrive on getting men to swoon over them in hopes they have a chance. It may be a deep insecurity in the girl and she constantly needs validation she is desired, or, maybe she gets a thrill by knowing they can have guys fall for them and like to keep score. As they get older, many of these girls turn into gold diggers and will trick guys into taking them to nice clubs, buying them gifts, etc., until another one comes along (come to LA sometime - we're the mecca for those types).

The only way I know of to tell them apart, aside from a gut feeling after having been duped before, is to watch them when they are around other men. If their heads fall slightly forward and they look up at him with a smile just as they did with you, you got their number.

But perhaps the best place to learn how to discern the p-teasing techniques is to talk to a stripper. They've turned it into quite an art form.
 ironhorse_la
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 406 (view)
 
whats with women and harleys?
Posted: 10/13/2007 9:24:40 PM
To be honest, I never knew this was an issue. I grew up riding motorcycles, racing dirt bikes of all sorts. As I got older, I got Harleys because I enjoyed touring. If it weren't for the Japanese entering the motorcycle markets, Harleys may never have evolved to the quality they are today. But people that claim they leak oil and are clunkers know little about them, at least the Harleys post-AMF.

I know guys going through mid-life crises that ride for the bad boy image and to attract chicks when their wives aren't looking. Of course, they were never on a bike until their hair line receded and it shows when they ride.

I simply love motorcycles of all kinds if they're well built. Harleys are my favorite although I now have a custom Big Dog (it's a bad ass bike - see my profile). I have it regardless of what women think, because when I have helmet hair, I'm no Brad Pitt.

So my friends, only one rule to remember - rubber side down!
 
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