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gabster2

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Hammertown Hoppers - Tuesday, Sept. 2- Lincside Posted: 9/2/2008 10:42:07 AM
sorry Zorba...no I wasn't meaning you....but the reason I can not email you directly and others is when someone specifies the age range and I am out side that range. Older and wiser by the way......

gabster2

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Hammertown Hoppers - Tuesday, Sept. 2- Lincside Posted: 9/2/2008 8:53:02 AM
Hey auzcan......aka Tim....you can keep on looking.....but according to your profile I am too old for you.....I can't even talk to you....lol

gabster2

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Hammertown Hoppers - Tuesday, Sept. 2- Lincside Posted: 9/2/2008 8:14:39 AM
I am gonna make an honest effort to come out tonight....see ya there??

gabster2

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Hammertown Hoppers - Tuesday, Sept. 2- Lincside Posted: 8/27/2008 5:31:48 PM
Better luck this time for me......I will try to come...... I had a lot of fun at the first one I went to......

gabster2

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do I have baggage? Posted: 8/24/2008 8:32:44 AM
rusty surfer - I totally agree.......baggage = experience.....absolutely. By saying you don't have any baggage is like saying a marriage never happened.....which would mean the kids were never born, you never had a relationship with your in-laws.......etc etc......... its how we deal with the baggage and whether we let it drag us down or not that counts.. I have been divorced for many years from a man who I left but I am glad I was married to him - I have two great kids and an extended family who still love me regardless of the breakup........which is totally cool!!!

gabster2

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do I have baggage? Posted: 8/24/2008 8:29:34 AM
I think anyone who has lived has baggage. Everything that happens to us shapes us. But I think what you are talking about is left over feelings about this past relationship that ended on her calling. Sounds to me like you need some sort of closure. I know yu said you never want to see, speak or be near her again.....but maybe you need to tell her exactly how the breakup made you feel - yu can put all this in a letter or email.....you can send it or not.....writing down how you are feeling has a huge therapeutic benefit to it. YOu will find that you pour your thoughts and feelings down on paper - or on your computer....type away ....madly....or one sentence or paragraph at a time - spill your guts out.....you need to purge those negative thoughts. And its very normal to have them - its just not good to let them linger. Holding on to them is just making your life miserable. And you really do need to let them go if you want to start dating again. I am not saying that you should forgive her although forgiveness is not necessarily for the other person.....it releases you from the HOLD that 'stuff' has on you. So in the letter you could explain how the breakup affected you emotionally etc and how it hurt you and then forgive her... I know this may sound really weird but it really works. You may have to start and stop a few times or yu may have to write more than one letter......give it a whirl......it sure can't hurt. Good luck

gabster2

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What to do if drinking and smoking rules his life? Posted: 8/24/2008 8:20:44 AM
Personally....I would not have started this relationship in the first place. The warning bells were there at the beginning.....I presume? Having said that - you have to decide for yourself what is more important to YOU! Can you live with a smoker/drinker who is doing so in spite of obvious health hazards and do you hope against hope he sees the light sooner rather than later or do you move on and look for someone without these habits that DO affect you in all kinds of ways. Sounds to me like he has no intension of changing his habits - can you live with that? I know I could not. And I do apologize if I sound judgemental - I am not intending that at all - just being blatantly honest . I have actually turned down dates with men who have one or both habits. I have have neither - I did smoke until about 12 years ago......and I do drink socially...one or two at a Plenty of Fish gathering - 3 or 4 when I know I am staying over - rarely more than that. You are in a tough place....no question. And I am sure your heart is breaking at the mere thought of dealing with this situation - regardless of which way you go. Good luck with your decision.

gabster2

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August 26th, 2008 ~ Hammertown Hoppers ~ Vicar's Vice, Stoney Creek Posted: 8/22/2008 2:56:37 AM
sounds like an interesting spot......I will try to make it. By the way .....I had a lovely time last week.....really didn't want to have to leave, but 5:30 AM comes around awfully quickly!! It was very nice meeting everyone.......and I look forward to my next event!....

gabster2

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August 19th '08 ~ Hammertown Hoppers @ A Better Place. Posted: 8/19/2008 2:50:53 PM
It looks like tonite is the nite......I will be there....and hey its NOT raining.....YET!! I will be there at around 6:30......I tend to like being early!...... So if ya see some dumb brunette wondering around looking lost....that would be me! Cheers.....gabbi

gabster2

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Am i being taken for a ride? Posted: 8/18/2008 3:47:22 AM
step away from him and stop listening to your friends for long enough to hear your own inner voice - what is your gut telling you ......trust me when I say you must listen to that.....your gut will tell you exactly what you need to know and do. good luck!!!

gabster2

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Ladies That hate recieving oral sex Posted: 8/17/2008 6:01:28 AM
hey bikerbiker....where do you live......I need to visit you........NOW!!!!!

gabster2

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Ladies That hate recieving oral sex Posted: 8/17/2008 5:58:58 AM
I have learned to enjoy it and in fact with the right guy I have fantasized about it. I learned at the so called hand of a guy who took the time to make me feel comfortable and brought me to one of the best orgazms I have ever had - who knew??....lol But my ex did not have very good techniques and I guess part of the reason for that was NON-communication. Without some guidance how would he know...and the same goes for the other way round too. Ya gotta tell them gently what works and what doesn't. How can anyone know that they are good or not if no one tells them? How can anyone know what you like or dislike without being told? Its all about communication. If a woman doubts her female-ness then she needs to be told how wonderful it is. Scent of a woman and all that and I don't mean perfume from a bottle. I was told I tasted sweet - I had never ever been told that before so I too had reservations. I have talked to a lot of men about this form of love making and they say they can go for hours.....lol If done right though......hours would be an over estimation......

gabster2

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Pro Dating... Posted: 8/16/2008 11:55:09 AM
I say one at a time - give that person a fair chance. Give time to decide if there is a 2nd date and so on. I am so much a one man woman and I honestly can not give a man the proper attention if I am dating others at the same time.....it just does not work for me. And I appreciate knowing that the guy is giving me the same in return. I did that one time....had three 1st dates in one weekend.........and to be totally honest I can't remember any of them....all I know is we never had a 2nd meeting...lol But to each his or her own....lol

gabster2

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are women hornier in the morning??? Posted: 8/16/2008 11:39:50 AM
again...............with the right guy available ....sex time is anytime.....I'd say!!

gabster2

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Do ethics matter in a relationship? Posted: 8/16/2008 11:30:07 AM
in about 10 seconds...he'd be kicked to the curb....... um btw kind of sounds like my ex.....

gabster2

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Serious question Posted: 8/16/2008 11:26:00 AM
sadly it happens every where....even in Canada, eh! maybe you are just more open and these women are more comfortable talking to you about it - they trust you with their story. Which is a burden as much as it is a honour. Women who have been abused need to find someone to trust again and that is the hardest thing to do - especially another man. And by the way there are men who are abused by their female partners and there is abuse in same-sex partnerships too... Although my marriage was considered abusive it was not a physical abuse - it was emotional or psychological abuse......and I sure needed to vent ....just before I left and for a long time afterwards. I had a huge support system including professionals and good reliable friends...both male and female. People who have not been abused do not understand the need for venting....its all part of the healing process and it must be done - so i think these women have found something in you that they need...

gabster2

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'High morals Posted: 8/16/2008 11:18:14 AM
High morals - the word 'high' needs some clarification and the word 'morals' does too. High is at the discretion of the individual speaking and is open to debate by the reader - high to one person could be low to someone else. But I think it means he or she lives a life of socially acceptable standards....of course it depends on which society you are living in....but generally speaking I think high morals says you are honest, trustworthy, reliable, sincere and believes in the Golden Rule ....and tries not to break laws both of nature and of the manmade variety which of course means you are honest, trustworthy etc etc. So as long as you don't rob me blind, stab me in the back ( or the front for that matter), meet me when you say you will, won't stand me up or have an eye for my daughter while dating me.....then we will do alright.....I think!! does that cover it?...........

gabster2

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First Date - Should It Be Special?? Posted: 8/16/2008 11:07:54 AM
if two people connect in a great way on a first meeting - doesn't that automatically make it special? The where and what we do should be secondary to how we feel when we first meet - and I don't necessarily mean our first eye contact - a person can be drop dead gorgeous and they open their mouths and all kinds of ugliness pours out... Unfortunately first impressions do count and its difficult to save it when the turn off has occured....Been there done that!!! The last guy I had a 'coffee date' with could not look me straight in the eye when he talked to me....he was looking about 12 inches south of my face most of the time......the 'girls' were flattered....but I wasn't impressed. He could have taken me to an expensive restaurant with candles and wine......and I would still have not gone on a second date!

gabster2

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August 19th '08 ~ Hammertown Hoppers @ A Better Place. Posted: 8/16/2008 4:57:53 AM
hey gerrbear......thats just freaky!!.............and darn right scarey!! Thank God no one was hurt!!! I did hear about that colapse on the news....

gabster2

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Do men ever grow up? Posted: 8/15/2008 11:54:02 AM
I think ( without reading all the replies) that there is a difference between growing up and growing old. We can be grown ups without being old fuddy duddies. I love a good laugh and getting down right silly. But I know when I need to be a responsible woman. I know my limits and when to say whoa! I take care of most of my responsiblities with a certain amount of maturity and a sense of ownership. BUT I have the ability to find humour in almost any situation and do so regularly. Life is short enough as it is to not be laughing at least part of the time. And I would like the man I date/see/become friends with to be kind of the same way.

gabster2

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August 19th '08 ~ Hammertown Hoppers @ A Better Place. Posted: 8/15/2008 5:13:19 AM
I'm not going to promise....cuz the last two times I kind of did and then couldn't make it..............so I won't say anything....

gabster2

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August 12th '08 ~ Hammertown Hoppers ~ Jack Astors Eastgate Mall ~ Centennial Parkway North - Stoney Creek Posted: 8/9/2008 3:22:49 PM
excellent idea.....rain rain go away....come again.............maybe next year??....holy smokes.............its raining right now!!!!!

gabster2

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Hamilton ~ Hammertown Hoppers ~ Jack Astors Eastgate Mall ~ Centennial Parkway North - Stoney Creek Posted: 8/6/2008 2:40:02 PM
okay............I almost promise to show up to this one.....can I be lured by leg massages too?...... I maybe a tad late.....but I will be there.......yeeehawww!!!

gabster2

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Hamilton Hammertown Hoppers, Aug.05,2008 @ Philthy McNasty's Posted: 8/5/2008 3:36:03 AM
sorry!! I should have checked ....but I have something I have to do tonite....totally spaced it!! I will shoot for next week.....Pen it in my calendar...hopefully you guys will pick a place ON the mountain again!............ cheers..............enjoy!!!

gabster2

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Hamilton Hammertown Hoppers, Aug.05,2008 @ Philthy McNasty's Posted: 8/2/2008 7:23:06 AM
I have never attended a gathering .....so I am a little nervous myself... i will try like crazy to attend. Its just too easy for me being so close to Philthys...lol and I am new to Hamilton...so this is a good opportunity for me to meet people!!

gabster2

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Scams. Nigerians, Russians ETC. Posted: 2/4/2007 8:15:40 AM
died in a car accident, one child usually about 12......exporter to Africa..........lives in a familiar sounding place ( according to their profiles)...but has no clue where it is in relation to where I am...... takes a long time to answer very simple questions.........and when they do its a vague answer...........like 'yes'.............omg!! do these people actually get somewhere?...........they must or they would not do what they do...... this kind of thing has been going on for a long time............... jeeeeese............

gabster2

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Scams. Nigerians, Russians ETC. Posted: 2/4/2007 8:12:11 AM
oh ya!!!!...I was on LL just yesterday and got a IM from a guy who said he was in Brantford.. he was very evasive and took a long time to answer questions......and yet told me he was just chatting with me.....ya right?? anyway I got that icky feeling in my gutt and started asking him questions that should get automatic and quick responses..........and I never got anything like that.. or the answers were too vague and took too long......it would take him 2 mins to say 'yes' so i finally asked him what exactly he was looking for - he said someone to raise his 12 year old son ( how many have I heard say that!!!...)... and then I asked him what he did.....exporter ( another tell tale sign) so I asked what and where he exported - he said computers - all over.............I asked him to be specific...... and then the answer I was looking for came - 'Africa'...............so I asked him why it took soo long to answer my simple questions..............and I asked him to be honest with me.....like did he even know where brantford was..........he said 'yes' but did not tell me where it was...... I told him I knew what he was up to ....and that he was full of BS.......and that I had been around for too long to fall for that crap.......he called me a foolish divorced woman.... like that was a big insult............well I am not foolish............quite the opposite.........most of the time anyway.........lol interesting though that the problem is more on paid sites than on P of F.......quite intriguing actually........ thanks for the opp. to vent.......................cheers Gabs

gabster2

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It was in the kiss Posted: 9/18/2006 4:27:19 PM
its in his kiss..............as the Cher song says................its in his kiss!!! ya baaaby!!

gabster2

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Banter and Wit a turn on? Posted: 1/22/2006 1:09:59 PM
good one nergal........I need laughter all the time.......life is way too short to be bitter all the time............

gabster2

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Banter and Wit a turn on? Posted: 1/22/2006 12:31:13 PM
banter and wit...may not be a turn on so to speak but it does get the juices flowing ..and its all part of flirting - if there is just a hint of sexuality in the banter then all the better......something a little on the cheeky side does keep me interested ...but sooner or later it does grow old and the chatter must become something a little more gutsy..... this applys whether there is any sexual activity or not - its the thought of maybe that keeps me going..... its sort of an adrenaline rush and its all part of the chase.......

gabster2

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Let's have a Hamilton-Burlington-Oakville area Party. Posted: 5/16/2005 8:57:35 AM
count me in as well...let me know the where and the when...someone mentioned June 4th? is that a date or what?....hahahaha! gabs

gabster2

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to cyber sex or not is the question?? Posted: 1/10/2005 7:24:33 PM
now that i can handle...no pun intended...of course.......... roflmao........ hey dialtone is that a in your pocket or are you just glad to see me...... had to say it sorry......................... cheers......gab

gabster2

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the gabster has landed Posted: 1/10/2005 7:19:18 PM
hey twitchy its just life....gotta love it cuz the alternative sucks.......if you think your life is in the sh*ts then take a quick look around and you will find someone who has it rougher than you.........i enjoy myself as much as possible...laugh lots...giggle even more......but anytime you need someone to take you up just come get me...okay i am usually good for a laugh or two................ cheers...gab

gabster2

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to cyber sex or not is the question?? Posted: 1/10/2005 5:13:16 PM
hey squeak...its cuz one hand is kinda busy??...lol.........you try typing with one hand while doing something more important with the other....see how well you do.....roflmfao....... this thread is making me laugh out loud....people are staring and no its not cuz of my other pic.......geeeeeeezzzzz!!! says gab

gabster2

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to cyber sex or not is the question?? Posted: 1/10/2005 4:45:33 PM
no i am not topless but i guess it doesn't matter since you thought i was.....wahoo! but the pic is sure getting some attention and that is not an invitation to im me and ask me to watch you jerk off...okay?? i am not showing anymore than you would see at the beach or if i was wearing a strapless gown...shoulders and no cleavage even....come on.... geeeezzz....cheers.....gab...lol

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the gabster has landed Posted: 1/10/2005 4:40:11 PM
hey stevetheeagle.....you sexy thing where have you been all my life...i know corny huh??........... wow this is an interesting place to meet.......over a and and then some what else can i say....wahoooo!!! gabbi.........

gabster2

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to cyber sex or not is the question?? Posted: 1/9/2005 12:57:52 PM
okay first of all the rhythm question?? dunno...but i do know their typing ability goes down hill rapidly and once they are done its like thanks bye bye now......and the metronome thing??/omg...now that is an image i care not to have......bink-bink-bink-bink.....BONG!!!! lol....omg..... ...and imagine all this coming(cuming,,tee hee) to you live on webcam too!! too much for this chickeeee..............cheers gab....

gabster2

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to cyber sex or not is the question?? Posted: 1/9/2005 8:44:20 AM
wow i am so glad i asked the question...i was feeling kind of emabarrassed to even bring it up but lo and hehold the opinions are similar...and there is a big difference between on line friends who do that from time to time with each other as compared to my expereince of men who say hello and go right to it with out so much as a 'how do you do?'.....I am trying to keep this light and not get too nuts about it...but it was starting to bug me...I mean say hello, chat about the weather, family etc....flirt a little, banter a lot, see how it goes...take your time.....whats the rush...and hey if its good it might be repeated???....really no different than in a face to face meeting or so it should be....would you knock on someones door, a total stranger and once the door opens just pull it out and start stroking...omg...I think you would be arrested in most states and provinces anyway....and by the way my dog would greet you at the door first...maybe that would change your mind....lol.....okay now i am getting silly here......... thanks for the input...nice to know i am not alone............toodles......gab

gabster2

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to cyber sex or not is the question?? Posted: 1/9/2005 7:07:58 AM
okay is it me or are there lots of guys in particular ( of course I am a hetero-sexual woman so only hear from men) who just want to be sexually gratified on line....the conversation starts out pretty normal but turns to sex very quickly and the next thing I know I am viewing some guy on webcam while he jerks off...is this normal behaviour or am i just a lucky girl....( sarcasm there!!)...I mean sometimes its almost immediately after accepting the webcam invite...sometimes they are topless but thats no big deal they are men...but what becomes obvious they are either naked from the waist down or they are wearing something that is quick to take off...omg.........and we talk about other perversions on here and then there is this...are most guys exhibitionists or am i just getting lucky...lol...( more sarcasm)...yes i do watch but its more like the deer in the head lights kind of thing...i can not believe what I am seeing....and i shake my head and turn the thing off...yikes...is that not an activity that should be between two who at least know a little bit about eachother??..I mean ask for pete's sake....maybe I will say yes but it should be my choice not yours........jmho.... cheers..gab.......

gabster2

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Advice on Flirting.....Input Greatly Appreciated Posted: 1/9/2005 6:53:53 AM
hey!..P of P...grrrrrrrr!!! the sound of a kitty about to pounce on its prey.........prrrrrrrrr!!!! the sound a kitty makes when content and satisfied!!!!!!!!!............you are too cute for words...tee hee and no I am not a dirty old woman just enjoying the view..... cheers .gab.......

gabster2

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question?? Posted: 1/9/2005 4:51:50 AM
thank you victorwill for your indepth response and btw...i read your profile....nice job....interesting place this forum! We can learn alot from each other, facts as well as help to form an opinion, airing our thoughts and passions....it is a nice place to just hang out. I respect the fact that you are totally up front about your intensions for being here....it just proves there are some people around who have integrity and don't mind showing it off.......thank you for reinstating my faith in human kind......you are indeed a gentleman .........nothing old fashioned or out of fashion about that....... cheers........gabbi..........in southen ontario canada....

gabster2

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Advice on Flirting.....Input Greatly Appreciated Posted: 1/8/2005 3:01:18 PM
a man that can make me laugh has my attention...as long as it doesn't stay silly for the whole time...there is a time for funny and a time for serious or romantic...but for sure intelligent humour is a real turn on ......laughter makes us feel good right sooooo!!! toodles...gabbi

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im back.....no one even noticed i was gone..... Posted: 1/8/2005 1:00:18 PM
hey agentpak...yer cute too but r also way toooooo young........

gabster2

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salute to 'our' military!! Posted: 1/8/2005 10:31:29 AM
hey dawson i just had to say 'what a gorgeous couple'...wow...your twins are going to break hearts all over the place....I assume that hubby will be gone for a while...thats a tough one...but at least its not war its aid instead....good luck to you both..... gabbi.....in ontario canada........

gabster2

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Advice on Flirting.....Input Greatly Appreciated Posted: 1/8/2005 10:27:48 AM
thats a good one...and it does work for both genders too...you may not get a date out of it but you break the ice and who knows after that.......so the same strategy could work at lets say the coffee counter or the deli counter??? waiting in line for something?? ya baby this is a good one......geeez and I already went grocery shopping today, so I can not try it out??? darn it........

gabster2

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im back.....no one even noticed i was gone..... Posted: 1/8/2005 5:48:30 AM
btw juz....great smile......i bet you get all the girls............ don't even bother ...i am way too old for you...but if i were like a million years younger.... cheers ....gab....

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im back.....no one even noticed i was gone..... Posted: 1/8/2005 5:46:48 AM
hey juz...you sound like a frantic parent or something...too cute...... gawd i can hear my parents say that and now i say the same thing to my kids even though they are adults ????...go figure........... cheers....gab......

gabster2

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Advice on Flirting.....Input Greatly Appreciated Posted: 1/8/2005 5:44:18 AM
my take on this ...is that a smile is a good indicator but there are people who do that all the time....if a strange woman talks to you at all...what is it about?...to be honest I may smile at someone and may even exchange 'small talk'...but if i am interested in someone I am usually more nervous and so I probably giggle a little...its a nervous giggle and that may be an indicator that i would be interested in chatting further or ??...but in the grocery store?? geeez this is a tough question MR.....I think that if someone smiles at you smile back, if you have the opp. to chat with her..try to continue that chat in such a way as to determine her marital status first and maybe if you could walk out to her car with her...see what happens on the way...does she hurry ahead of you to her car she is not interested...if she lags behind so that you can walk with her...that to me would be a good sign......its so hard to tell and I too have a hard time knowing if it is just a friendly smile or what but you have to look for more signs ....sorry i could not be more specific......lol....i tried.....?? cheers gab.....

gabster2

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question?? Posted: 1/7/2005 7:54:55 PM
okay but does fit not imply healthy?...and there is no way a smoker can be healthy.....nor can a heavy drinker be healthy......? I really think that instead of saying you are fit ( for smokers) you could say you are physically active and or athletic....and yes there are loads of people who somehow manage to stay physically active and still smoke.........but don't smokers who run etc cough like hell after a run...I can only imagine............ sorry folks these are my thoughts put to pen so to speak.......toodles...gabbi...

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Is It Possible To Fall In Love Before Meeting???? Posted: 1/7/2005 6:48:27 PM
mikey i could not agree with you more...these situations are just as likely to happen in so called real life as on line...there are schmucks on and off line, next door, up the street and where ever you live just as there are really good people in all those places....i have met both types in all kinds places, including on line and in person...for example the total jerk who i was married to for 17 years...now he may not have been a weirdo - wacko but he hurt me nonetheless.............jmho.................cheers gabbi.....

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