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life_of_leisure

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Msg: 160 (view)

Sugar Daddys and Sugar Mommas Posted: 7/25/2008 1:44:08 PM
I checked out a sugar daddy website just to see what it was all about ... the men on there were under the age of 40, which I found surprizing. Posers, no doubt; for the $1500 price of admission some wannabe model (in her own mind, at least) might mistake a guy for having real money. My guess it that they're meant for each other and will both be very unhappy together when each finds out the truth about the other.

life_of_leisure

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Is Intelligence A Curse In Relationships? Posted: 7/25/2008 9:52:15 AM
> I have read articles, that suggest, apparently many women are not particularly turned-on by intelligent men Ever noticed all the groupies at the Nobel Prize ceremonies? And how the science and/or chess clubs in high school have all the hot cheerleaders? If gals were attracted to smart guys, there wouldn't be one tenth the number of threads around here about the dumba$$ guys they're all involved with. Just a thought...

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Should I really list my Masters Degree Posted: 7/25/2008 9:34:45 AM
b) Think that all I want to do is discuss obscure authors of the 19th century while sipping on Cognac and looking down on the world at "the other class" ... Hey, what good is an advanced degree if you can't do that? Ever read Gissing...? From wikipedia... "Between 1891 and 1897 (his so-called middle period) Gissing produced his best works, which include New Grub Street, Born in Exile, The Odd Women, In the Year of Jubilee, and The Whirlpool. In advance of their time, they variously deal with the growing commercialism of the literary market, religious charlatanism, the situation of emancipated women in a male-dominated society, the poverty of the working classes, and marriage in a decadent world." Highly recommended!

life_of_leisure

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Pre Nups Posted: 7/25/2008 7:47:45 AM
> May very some from state to state. There's no doubt about it: family law is a state matter, not a federal (US) matter, and does vary from state to state; they could already be common law married, in which case a pre-nup would be beside the point. Anybody who moves in with somebody and doesn't consult a lawyer and get the arrangement formalized in writing is a ruddy fool IMO.

life_of_leisure

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Msg: 174 (view)

Someone Please HOW Do I CONTROL MY MAN Posted: 7/24/2008 7:44:49 PM
women who want to control a man, generally can't control a man they actually want. Yes. Very nice formulation, nicely derived, coruja. The other way of putting it is that the female conundrum is wanting a man who does everything she wants, but such a man who does everything a woman wants is not a REAL MAN, and she doesn't want him. I don't know about controlling "my man", but the secret to controlling a woman is to get her young and train her right.

life_of_leisure

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Why do young girls prefer older guys? Posted: 7/24/2008 10:36:47 AM
You're SOL, OP. At least until you're older. Then you can look forward to getting to be the "boyfriend" of one of those girls who's out dancing, talking with, and getting hit on by other guys.

life_of_leisure

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Msg: 97 (view)

ladies' night is dumb Posted: 7/24/2008 7:57:10 AM
I stand by my word to say this isnt about discrimination, this is about money. So, again, it's alrighty for an employer to pay a guy more than an equivalent woman, because it's about money? I mean, after all, a woman who doesn't like that can just go work somewhere else, right? A business is a private establishment, remember. No I know the objection will be that working is some sort of essential need. But with total employment in the US at 110-120 million out of a population of some 300 million, clearly it isn't, even after you take out the ~65 million who are aged 18 or under. So, lots of people don't seem to need a job. Why can't the woman who wants to walk with her feet and not work the same job for less than a man just be one of them? Rosa Parks didn't have to ride the bus; she could have walked, or gotten a bicycle.

life_of_leisure

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Msg: 87 (view)

ladies' night is dumb Posted: 7/23/2008 10:49:59 PM
It's not about FORCING anyone to do anything. It's about equal public accommodation and not discriminating against people based on characteristics over which they have no real control. That's why people bring suits and take the matter to court, why there are laws in some places, etc. If people want to discriminate, they're free to do so in a private setting, but not one which purports to be open to the public. If guys have to pay more to get into some establishment, then aren't they also justified in being payed more in order to afford such extra expenses? Think carefully before answering.

life_of_leisure

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Can an eccentric person find love and understanding? Posted: 7/23/2008 10:41:48 AM
Ah heck, I'll take the OP's side rather than contribute to the vegematic treatment... If someone has something to say, it's better to speak with an accent than to remain silent. But, yea, just plain talking is better if you can get away with it than "communicating".

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Monogomy is it important anymore? Posted: 7/22/2008 12:05:39 PM
> So I ask where and when did this become so commonplace? Oh, that's easy: when feminism took down The Patriarchy. Because the big, bad patriarchy was all about being controlling of women, making them be monogamous against their wills, and all sorts of other nasty and oppressive things men thought up to do to women. So, now we have reverted to basically a feral breeding system. Monogamy is a social solution to a biological problem. Some environmental conditions and influences favor monogamy over the alternatives, some don't. Right now, they generally don't IMO. Women can try to impose monogamy on males, as is the case with those (other) primates which are monogamous, but my guess is that this would be futile at this point because of competition among (deregulated) females for mates.

life_of_leisure

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Are there any good men left? Posted: 7/22/2008 10:42:33 AM
M-1 What is your reaction to this Question when you see it in a women's online profile? As others have noted, both in this thread and the many others on this general subject, it expresses their psychological 'stance' rather than some objective query (or statement) about reality. Net: they will never be happy with you no matter what you do or how much you try to bend over backwards attempting to prove to them you're "good" (enough...) and/or "not like all the others". M-2 What experiences have you had with women who use this question in their online profiles? None - I avoid them like the plague. And likewise. Which causes me to seriously doubt they want what they say or imply they want; if they did, I (and quite a few others) would be in serious demand, right?

life_of_leisure

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Why do Babes dig ugly guys? Posted: 7/21/2008 12:54:12 PM
> Most "alpha" men I have met are not the prettiest ones... they are average looking. Or worse... Ugly = masculine. Pretty = feminine. It's really that simple. "Real Men" are supposed to be butt-ugly and to have better things to do than worry about their looks. If women really liked great looking guys, why are almost all guys seemingly so intent on looking as repulsive as possible?

life_of_leisure

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Msg: 30 (view)

Are interests important to you... Posted: 7/21/2008 12:25:10 PM
> Are interests important to you...? Only until I discovered there was a "Big D1cks" interest option available for women (and gay men) to choose, but nothing comparable for men to list... <img src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_201.gif border=0> Most interests are too sparsely populated to be of much use in conducting a search - if you hope to turn someone up who is half-way nearby. For example, I just went through the first 10 pages under "skiing" and only turned up three other guys in Colorado. It's a lot easier just to actually go skiing - cause as a single you get to ride up the chairlifts with all sorts of people and spend a few minutes chatting with them (not unlike speed dating events, as I understand them).

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Finding it hard to commit? Posted: 7/21/2008 12:12:34 PM
And it's not the sex, to be honest, I don't care if it's there or not. I would rather cuddle up with someone than get all hot and sweaty And your guy is OK with this? And wants to marry you anyway? I think you've got every woman's dream guy right there! You could make a mint renting him out...

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Men who date until 45 then get married for kids in a flash Posted: 7/21/2008 10:40:00 AM
> ... in an effort to enjoy a never ending bachelorhood The key word there is "enjoy". > ...just sort of shocked at the number of men in their 40's still single, good looking, never married, with no kids. It's a conspiracy, to make sure there's an ample supply of desirable men who won't date women their age. Why would anyone with two brain cells to rub together ever want to settle, much less "settle down"? > Not looking to marry again anytime soon... Ok, OK, glad you're on our side in this.

life_of_leisure

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is there something about the number 35? Posted: 7/21/2008 10:31:42 AM
> Is it some kind of unknown cut off point where men think women just go downhill? Women's fertility starts to drop precipitously after age 35. Even at age 30 only about 2/3rds of women are able to conceive without at least some advanced technological assistant, which is expensive both emotionally and financially. This all matters lots if having children is a consideration.

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Approaching women, why not? Posted: 7/21/2008 10:28:22 AM
I love these "if they ain't comin' to the ballpark, how ya gonna stop `em?" threads... Maybe if the OP handed out discount coupons or made some other promotional offer, but it sounds like she's not sure whether she wants the fans to come to the park or not, so naturally they're gonna go where they are enthusiastically wanted and appreciated.

life_of_leisure

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I'm glad I'm not a man! Posted: 7/21/2008 10:12:51 AM
> How am I suppose to know who I have a chance with, and who I DON'T have a chance with? I think all GentlemanJack was saying was that you can't predict the outcome of the experiment with 100% certainty without actually doing the experiment. > there are millions of women with just as low self esteem and self confidence So maybe a super-model isn't out of his league after all?

life_of_leisure

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Msg: 39 (view)

Has someone immediately removed their profile after your first contact? Posted: 7/21/2008 10:10:34 AM
> Has someone immediately removed their profile after your first contact? No. It was after their first contact. I'm not making this up.

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new car vs old car Posted: 7/21/2008 9:57:37 AM
^^^^ Kinda like how guys view shoes. Yea, that's a good analogy: in general, gals care about cars about as much as guys care about shoes.

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Keeping players and other undesirables away Posted: 7/20/2008 12:36:47 PM
Are such statements truly ineffective at discouraging players and other undesirables from attempting to make contact? No, they're effectively come hither motions, indicating that the women is stupid, naive, and gullible -- i.e., imminently playable. So their effect is opposite from what's intended.

life_of_leisure

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Ear Hair ??? Dudes seriously? Posted: 7/20/2008 12:28:17 PM
Never, ever nag a guy about anything or try to change him. I use the trimmer on my ear hair regularly, so obviously you should dump the loser for moi, especially since I have a pool you'd look great next to.

life_of_leisure

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Msg: 33 (view)

What does a girl have to do? Posted: 7/20/2008 12:24:20 PM
OP: I'm not the sort of Neanderthal who hits on women for dates (or anything else), so there is absolutely nothing you could do to be "more approachable" since, like I said, I don't approach women.

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Men who wear sunglasses in their profiles Posted: 7/20/2008 11:39:25 AM
> We just want to see your peepers! Jeepers! What is so awful about that? Hey, and we just want to see your tits -- so off with your top already!! Nobody gets a freebie when it comes to my sparkly blues. That would be CHEAP. And especially not when they throw all that psychological BS in my direction, thus requiring me to keep my eye protection on tight.

life_of_leisure

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Msg: 348 (view)

Why are most men afraid of the M word? Posted: 7/19/2008 9:44:00 PM
Gotta love a thread which is basically based on an accusation that men are being scaredy cats because they choose not to do what she wants them (or, at least, one of them) to do. Maybe if the OP double dared them, it would work for her. Just because women are emotional, unreasoning creatures doesn't mean men are.

life_of_leisure

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What's up with everybody? Posted: 7/19/2008 8:57:34 AM
The OP's question seems to be "why won't men be just exactly what I want them to be, and do just exactly what I want them to do, and when I want them to do it - automatically?". I have the same question, of course with the word "women" substituted for the word "men". It's soooo difficult when the whole world doesn't revolve around ME! Yea, what's up with all the bad women who think it's all about THEM?

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Msg: 54 (view)

Would you (a man) sleep with a woman you weren't attracted to? Posted: 7/18/2008 11:19:14 AM
> Would you (a man) sleep with a woman you weren't attracted to? Perhaps, but it's never gonna happen on account of female passivity, which requires the man to move in the woman's direction or else nothing ever happens and they're just two ships passing in the night. Thus, by definition, the man is attracted to her to some degree or another. In general, between "to-die-for" and "totally repulsive" there's a huge middle ground of "not totally repulsive". In fact, most women fall in there somewhere.

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Does the hunt become all about the kill? Posted: 7/18/2008 10:23:43 AM
Perhaps the OP would do well to dump the predator/prey paradigm, and go with the host/parasite one instead. And remember: Marriage is the only game where the trapped animal has to buy the license.

life_of_leisure

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ladies' night is dumb Posted: 7/18/2008 9:24:45 AM
^^^^ Kinda like how they used to keep blacks out of certain places, or at least out of sight and out of the way at the back of the bus, in order to "improve the atmosphere" and thus make the place more attractive to whites, which was good for business.

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Whatever Happened to Romance/Courtship, etc.? Posted: 7/18/2008 12:50:09 AM
> Whatever Happened to Romance/Courtship, etc.? Feminism killed it. And even though the feminists were only a tiny percentage of the population, other women amazingly just sat around passively and let them wreak their havoc. Yup, if you want romance, fiction and fantasy are your best bet, though practicing The Golden Rule might be a good way to go, too. "If liberation means the absence of unavoidable obligation, women's liberation has backfired. It is men who have been liberated. They need not be husbands or fathers to assure themselves of social status. . .They are not required to support women and children for life. They may experience transient social and sexual variety with a range of partners. The contemporary nuptial scene may be problematic or seem arduous to men and hence less likely to appeal to them..." - Lionel Tiger "There are more never-married men over the age of 40 in the US than the entire population of New Zealand. The number of never-married men in their 30s has more than doubled in the past decade. The percentage of men who have never been married has risen from 25% in 1960 to 31% in 1996. The percentage of men who are single has risen steadily from 31% in 1960 to 42% in 1996. If this were all due to the choices of women, then why have we heard for the past 20 years [30+ years now] the uninterrupted laments of women that "men won't make commitments". . .these men are free in a way that no group of people has ever been." - zed the zen priest Romance was just a game anyway, and since women uniformly hate games, you'd think they'd be glad it's been done away with.

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ladies' night is dumb Posted: 7/18/2008 12:23:57 AM
There was a civil rights discrimination case brought in Denver about a year or so ago regarding the topic at hand which was won by the complainant. Unfortunately, it was only relevant to the one particular bar/club in the suit (and there wasn't much in the way of penalties or enforcement), so the fellow said he was going to go after all the others, one by one, to shut this sexist custom down. Haven't heard anything more since, though the guy doing it seemed to be doing a consciousness and publicity raising thing. The best thing equality minded people can do without much effort is avoid/boycott offending establishments, and not just on the nights in question. I've made it a practice of asking about this before going in and going elsewhere if need be. It's always been a bit perplexing to me that the feminist organizations haven't been more vocal on this, considering how demeaning it is to women in making them bait, and thus exploiting them to make money.

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Men who wear sunglasses in their profiles Posted: 7/18/2008 12:15:38 AM
Gawd, what kind of stupid sh1t will some woman think up next? It never seems to end, but if sunglasses help weed `em out...

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An odd thing that really got me Posted: 7/16/2008 12:28:54 AM
"Installing new parts in the lawn mower"... is that what they're calling it these days?

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Msg: 167 (view)

Why do Babes dig ugly guys? Posted: 7/16/2008 12:26:39 AM
Theory #807: ugly guys know they have Work Hard to Earn It, which is what chicks dig most. A side benefit is that she gets to feel slighted and resentful, and therefore will never run out of trivial and insignificant things to complain about, thus adding to the ugly guy's hell.

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First Contact - best way to get your message across? Posted: 7/16/2008 12:24:55 AM
First...they have to have a profile that says something. It's hard to write to a vacuum...blonde or otherwise. I resemble that remark... a long profile hasn't done anything to give me more messages to delete.

life_of_leisure

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How much is too much? Posted: 7/16/2008 12:08:31 AM
> Is there a such thing as "going too far"? Hey, do whatever you're big enough to do. Of course, if you were to post a couple dozen photos I'm sure we could provide you with an exact calibration on where the fuzzy line is. > At what point is your thought that the girl is a hoe beyond redemption? No money's changing hands, so technically she's no whore - or if she is she's going about it entirely the wrong way.

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Msg: 283 (view)

Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 7/16/2008 12:04:25 AM
FWIW, I do see the occasional woman's profile where she's asking "are you strong enough for me?", or something to that effect. Whenever I see that, I can't help thinking I should change my tagline to "Are You Weak Enough For Me?"...

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Msg: 208 (view)

Why do most women act like money isn't an issue? Posted: 7/15/2008 11:59:41 PM
quit being a cheap husband and get your significant other the romantic gift, so she will know YOU do not think money is an issue when it come to love Was I the only one whose head exploded when they read that? It did remind me of the adage about how the first step in seduction is convincing the woman that you don't think she's a whore. Maybe the OP's query is sorta the flip side of that - the woman trying to convince the man that she doesn't think of him as a john.

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Good reason for Insecurites? Posted: 7/15/2008 11:39:00 PM
> but im still gunna try cause i am in love with this girl You're a ruddy fool. Kick her sorry a$$ to the curb and go get someone decent for a change. I mean, for chrissakes, how good can it really be when you're on an I-Net message board looking for advice? That oughta be a big clue-by-four to the forehead right there.

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Why Do Some Women Do This? Posted: 7/14/2008 7:41:30 AM
^^^^ Yup, whenever someone - usually a woman, but oftentimes backward thinking men, too - urge you to "be a man", they're usually trying to get you to do something not in your best interest. That's not someone whose oil I'd want to change. Tell her she needs to get in touch with her masculine side and learn how to change it herself if she's too cheap to take it to one of the chains, many of which have "lady's day" discounts (at least around here). As to why "some women do this", it's because there seems to be an unending supply of chumps and ninnies who will execute their honey-do lists for them.

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Putting out on the first date. Posted: 7/13/2008 1:41:07 AM
> if women slept with men on EVERY first date... well... There'd probably be a lot more guys asking a lot more gals out for dates. Even more if the women were doing both the asking out and the paying.

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Msg: 167 (view)

Date undertipped-what to do??!! Posted: 7/13/2008 12:35:20 AM
Gotta love it... on one thread the women are all bragging about how a man's money doesn't matter in the least to them, and then on another they're ready to tar and feather some guy who doesn't flash a big wad and sprinkle it around liberally enough like he's the gal's own personal philanthropist. Gift horses, and all that. Maybe the guy was just doing a little test to see which category she fell into.

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Today's #1 Dating Problem: Love Maximization Posted: 7/13/2008 12:14:25 AM
^^^^ And is sweet and yummy, too. Don't forget that. It's just a bonus if she can also dance and not look like an idiot.

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If you're single and not dating, what's your reason? Posted: 7/12/2008 11:00:16 PM
Heck, I'd even pitch in to help with her moving costs - and just to make sure she wasn't landing her broom anywhere around here!

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Today's #1 Dating Problem: Love Maximization Posted: 7/12/2008 9:27:14 PM
Unfortunately, in today's online world, it's very easy to become a "love maximizer" with the tempting smorgasbord of dating choices constantly available. With so much choice, it's so easy to fall into the temptation of seeking an "upgrade" Glad to see someone keeping the myth alive that all us singles are dating dozens of great (if not quite "perfect") eligible people each month, having exciting flings, trists, and close calls with love, swinging from the chandeliers whenever we like, and all that jazz. I'm sure it's really all part of a conspiracy to make coupled people miserable, thinking that they're missing out on something better - i.e., being single.

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such a thing as a 'soul mate' or no? Posted: 7/12/2008 9:21:27 AM
I think my soulmate would have done a thread search before creating yet another redundant thread on this well-worn topic...

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Single (never married at all) men over 45 Posted: 7/12/2008 8:54:58 AM
Funny thing about those who practice psychology without a license... their psychologizing is only ever used to pathologize the other person (or group); that is, positive motivations curiously never seem to be part of the repertoire. If it's not sins of commission, it's sins of omission.

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Do men like it when women contact them first? Posted: 7/10/2008 8:54:29 AM
> When a man see's what he likes, he will go after it. Unfortunately, this "observation" is unable to detect all those instances in which "a man see's what he likes" but doesn't "go after it". > It seems like it works the opposite way when roles are reversed and the > more a woman pursues a guy, the less attractive she becomes to him over time. Maybe she's just doing it wrong. I mean, really, if a guy pursues a woman (or women) and doesn't get anywhere, are we to conclude that men pursuing women just doesn't work?

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Are Motorcycles Some Kind of Phallic Symbol? Posted: 7/10/2008 7:46:24 AM
> I don't find a picture of a guy on a motorcycle any more attractive than any other picture. So why are you obsessed with guys you have no or little interest in? If you don't get it, you just don't get. No need to go digging up some pseudo-psychological pathological explanation. But nevermind... As I've mentioned several times before around here, though no one seems to bother doing a thread search, is that a well-known big pay site revealed some time ago that the second most popular search term by women was "motorcycle". Hey, I'm even thinking of going down to the biker bar so I can get my pic taken next to some cool bike... Anyway, the gist is that you can blame it all on your sisters wanting those phallic symbol guys. If chicks didn't dig `em, guys wouldn't ride `em.

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well established and generous Posted: 7/8/2008 8:45:00 AM
> What does this mean, well established and generous? If it's a gal saying this, you don't qualify. If it's a guy saying this, you can't compete.

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