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 Author Thread: Marijauna Rant!
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 34 (view)
 
Marijauna Rant!
Posted: 5/28/2009 4:57:36 PM
Why are people so ****ing goofy. Marijuana has tar in it but no one I know, and I know Jamaicans, smokes 20+ joints a day. It is as mild a substance as you can get, especially compared to alchahol of any sort—even beer.

The simple fact is that Nazi-dickheads like to impose their personal taste on other people and call it morality. Which, I suppose, it is; and exactly why I don’t trade in that sordid trash. I hold to ethics, which are quantifiable and measurable. Morality is just any horseshit you can get a few jack-offs to agree with, like “Pot is evil!”

The self-righteous crap being spewed here is typical of a culture with its head up it ass and desperately trying to justify its own self-importance. Why do you never hear these people get down on the greed and avarice that’s killing this entire planet?

I’ll tell you why: THEY ARE THE PEOPLE CAUSING IT. Obnoxious stooges who wouldn’t take-on a real issue if they recognized one. 1% of the U.S. population is in prison and half of them are there for marijuana related nonsense. Building prisons is a big for-profit business so they get dipshits all worked up about mindless drivel to justify building more of them and putting more and more people away for the hideous crime of being POOR.

People make me sick. If you’re worried about drugs you should start with the prescription ones that are killing people by the score and destroying the health of millions so a bunch of rich sleaze-bags can make a little scratch off it.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO COMMON SENSE?
Posted: 4/21/2009 8:36:33 AM
I'm against warning labels. Maybe I'm being mean, but I firmly hold that if you need to be told not to use a hair dryer in the shower you deserve to die. Aside from safety issues, exactly what are you expecting to accomplish with a hair dryer while standing under running water?...
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 588 (view)
 
If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 4/21/2009 7:54:51 AM
I just thought it would be fun for people to see the title of this thread again!!!
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 35 (view)
 
Texas go home!
Posted: 4/21/2009 4:14:12 AM
Damn I love making people angry! A character fault? Perhaps, but I enjoy it and that’s what matters, right? Oh, btw, I’m a veteran for those of you who went that route. Sorry…

Anyway, as for chopping off Jersey I’m all for that too. Perhaps we could build a huge outboard motor and move to the Caribbean! And as to the “not traveled” bit I’ve been to every state but Alaska and Hawaii and lived in five of them for a year or more. EVEN TEXAS!!! To tell the truth, I liked a lot of the folks there.

My point is this: WE ARE NOT ONE COUNTRY IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY.

I do think we’d all be happier and our governments would be far less inclined to empire if they were smaller.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Texas go home!
Posted: 4/20/2009 2:11:36 AM
With all the talk of secession down in Texas I got to thinking: What a great idea…

Maybe they SHOULD go, I wouldn’t miss them. And while they’re at it, they should take the entire south and mid-west with them. I frankly don’t care for sharing a country with people who think the world is 6,000 years old and whose idea of good wholesome fun is burning crosses on people’s lawns. Perhaps the south should rise again: and get the hell out.

I’m sure there are people who are offended by that. Quite alright, I MEAN to offend them. Look people, we have nothing in common with each other, we HATE each other, and we are never going to agree on anything. This country should be broken up into smaller ones. I’m thinking 7 but whatever. We in the literate states can have our godless commie paradise and you god ole boys can burn books to your heart’s content. What do you say?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Future Tech
Posted: 4/20/2009 2:02:52 AM
I’m sure it will be something hideous, like mandatory rental and inner ear implants so they can make you sit through advertisements all day and night without escape. That would be a nice capitalist thing to do.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 72 (view)
 
Creationist Science Fair
Posted: 4/19/2009 12:55:30 AM
It is only natural that Christians don’t believe in Evolution. They can find no evidence of it among their ancestors and belief in the supernatural is natural enough to a person for whom thinking is a supernatural power.

The real problem here is that there are enough of these half-wits to get their way. Religion is in its death throes, that why the faithful are so dangerous right now. It’s getting to the point where it really is impossible to maintain the idea and remain even remotely rational. They don’t want to give up their easy-out and they’ll happily kill the rest of us to avoid it.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 78 (view)
 
The Scientific Experiment Most Likely to End the World!
Posted: 9/13/2008 9:14:58 PM
You obviously have no graps of the material, sir. There are MORE then enough real things to be worried about in this world, why do people see the need to invent make believe ones?...
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
humanity's apocalyptic fantasy
Posted: 9/12/2008 9:49:24 PM
Why is easy: People are, as a general rule, unbelievably stupid and self-important. It's nothing new and people thinking it's "all going to end" we be arround until it IS the end. Ironically, THIS particular bunch of wingnuts will taste some vindication. Sadly they won't be around to gloat...

As for the LHC at CERN, if a black hole WAS created it would be a single partical one which would evaporate instantaniously. Unfortunate as I think that would be a well-deserved fate for our useless, hateful species.

Recall the Y2K dipshits? People tgought: "Hey! A year with three zero! Obviously that means the world is comming to an end. None of these folk stopped to think that the airplane didn't really care what year was on the clock. "Oh no! It's 1900, I haven't been invented yet!" (plane crashes in fireball so as not to disturbe the timeline. How noble)

It all comes down to human self-importance. Everyone wants to think they are special. Who's more special then the ones who get to see the big show?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 43 (view)
 
If everything when to crap
Posted: 9/7/2008 6:36:45 PM
It's all well and good to have this conversation as a starting point, BUT: Wouldn't it be much more proactive if we discussed ways to CAUSE society to fall. Sometimes it's just best to wipe the slate clean and start over. How much worse could we screw it up?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
basic question about creationism logic
Posted: 9/7/2008 6:20:14 PM
A couple of things: Firstly, even if you want to assume there is a god and he wrote the bible (or any other text) himself, it has been translated, retranslated, copied, edited, and censored throughout its history. The books that make up the modern cannon of the bible (I'll stick to the crossers for these purposes as they are the wing-nuts typically pushing this) were selected for being in sync with Roman law and culture. Many were omitted because they contradicted those selected material, had evil ideas (like women aren't inferior), et al.

The fact is that evolution and creation aren't mutually exclusive at all. Why and how need not be the same thing. Indeed, you can make an excellent (and even very disturbing) argument that Genesis, for example, is attempting to explain cosmology and evolution to a people with no concept of science. Indeed, aside from the evangelicals, most modern religions have made peace with these ideas. The universe (made by a deity or no) works according to definable and measurable rules. If not, there would be no way of explaining anything and magical events would be taking place all the time.

The fact is that science and religion are two things with nothing in common. God-folk try to reduce science to simply a rival faith so that they can denounce it as just one more heresy. What this all comes down to is human self-importance. People want to believe that EVERYTHING is ultimately about them and there for their personal use. It's narcisism, plain and simple; the howling of offended infants. Me, me, me! Mine, mine, mine!

We are just one more animal, nothing more. Get over yourselves. If there is some creative intelligence behind our universe (and what about the others, there are likely an infinite number) then whatever it is is SO far beyond our pitiful concept of a "god" that the entire concept becomes meaningless...
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
The Inadequacy of Democracy
Posted: 8/16/2007 7:53:55 PM
What are you smoking and where can I get some?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Do Not Dating List
Posted: 5/5/2007 7:07:07 AM
This is deeply Orwellian, fun fun! And who gets to decide what is wrong with other people? Who checks this information out?

Some lovely gems from POSITIVE AND HAPPY I saw up top here:


If OP is so paranoid that all of the people in his life will now join POF just to say horrible things about him, he must have a really good reason.

Hmmm...seems to me he just "slandered" himself!


So, just like anyone who doesn’t want the NSA reading their e-mail or listening on their phone MUST be a terrorist, eh?

YOU, lady. Are an idiot. You are worthless subhuman garbage and have no right to be alive. LIKE THAT? That MY opinion of you based upon what I just read in 2 seconds, should I go around telling people that you‘re dangerous?

This is a petty vengeance fantasy for females, nothing more. Men don’t do things like this as a rule and we ALL know women who will gleefully abuse it by saying hateful things about any man they don’t like.

I recently encountered a woman on this site, exchanged some e-mails and spoke on the phone a few times. When she asked about my religious beliefs and I told her I was an atheist she went on a tirade that I was some sort of monster, the term ‘baby-killer” was hurled at me (I assume she is referring to the well-known practice of all atheists of performing at least five abortions a day and burning churches down) and other lovely things.

THIS woman has the right to blacklist me if she feels like it?

Women will go on all day about what they hate about men in sweeping generalizations, but if a man makes a single criticism of woman he’s labeled a misogynist. This is one of the problems men have with women in general: NO ACCOUNTABILITY. The ease with which they will lie about ANYTHING to get what they want.

Don’t like that? Just an opinion...

In short, this is set-up to be abused from the start, it is a wretched idea and anyone who participates in it is of the LOWEST character.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:34:12 PM
Let me point out two lines here:


Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?

men still see that acting like dogs is something to be proud of


If, indeed, men are dogs for acting a certain way--Then why should you resent being labled for the same thing? That is called hypocricy, my dear. If we're dogs for doing it and YOU aren't, then what IS the standard? Or STANDARDS should I say, as you clearly have a differant one for each sex.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 117 (view)
 
What's up with the men SNOBS anyways????
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:06:20 PM
Okay, let's break this down:


I consider myself a pretty intelligent and bright woman!! Wait, maybe that is the problem........


So, you are saying right off the bat that as a man, I am only interested in vapid women. Maybe THAT is your problem.


Anyways - I really have not been here very long but I know that I am not grazilda with hairs growing under my chin!!!
So tell me MEN , what's up with the snobby attitudes?
You don't answer messages or even respond to instant IMs......


I'm sure most people here have had messages gone unresponded to. Snobbishness? Or are they just not interested. Seems rather snobbish to assume the formar.


All you have to do, is say ; "Thanks for the message but I am really not interested"


On behalf of my entire gender, conscider it said.


Unless we women are considered stalkers and nut cases ( ok there are definitly some that are) but in general............we can handle the rejection!!!


Yes, apparently by whining about it.


Or MAYBE - you are all too intimidated by a BRIGHT, INTELLIGENT, PRETTY, INDEPENDANT woman!!!!


Here it is again. Maybe YOU aren't as impressive as YOU seem to think. But I'm sure you're quite right; FAR more likely all men are mindless drones because YOU haven't had the results YOU decided YOU deserve.


You say you want all this stuff, but when you are faced with it............You HOLD back and scream!!!

C'mon BOYS................what's up with that???????


You are obviously an arrogant, egomanical solipsist who holds the entire male gender in contempt. Could THAT be a factor? Get a grip and don't be such a wench.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Strange Standards
Posted: 4/26/2007 3:37:30 PM
Why is it that the federal government won’t let Americans buy cheaper Canadian drugs on the pretense that they might be unsafe, allows the free importing of food from China where there are NO laws concerning food production and is infamous the world-over for diseased and contaminated food?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 478 (view)
 
Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany *
Posted: 4/21/2007 5:12:46 PM

Sorry but it is high time that redneck president faced his own Nuremburg. That isn't anti-America, it is "anti-American leadership". Besides it's not like he is president because he got the most votes or anything


On this point you will get no argument from me. The thing that sickens me so much about the democrats is that if they were truly interested in “getting the country back on course” (seems a popular one) then George & company would all be wearing orange jump suits right now.

As it stands, it appears they just wanted their turn at the lobbyist banquet. The only possibility for the U.S. to ever earn back any credibility with the international community is to step up and hold these people accountable. Unlikely, but who knows...
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Morality Vs. Ethics
Posted: 4/21/2007 5:05:09 PM
Premise: Ethics are superior to morality. Morality is arbitrary and more matter of prevailing taste then a logical system upon which top base a society. Morality can be anything that enough people agree upon, however absurd. Like saying it is immoral to claim the Earth revolves around the sun. Sounds foolish to us (most of us at least, Kansas I’m looking at you) but people were in fact set on fire for saying so. That is morality at work.

Ethics, on the other hand, are definable quantities based on measurable fact. It is unethical to kill people you don’t like because there will be plenty of people who don’t like you and it would lead to chaos. The better system for higher animals? I would say yes.

Thoughts?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 33 (view)
 
FOR THOSE WHO JUDGE THEIR NORTHERN NEIGHBOURS
Posted: 4/21/2007 4:48:46 PM
The truth is, we Americans are raising the Earth’s temperature in an attempt to Terra-form your nation and make it suitable for conquest. We first got the idea in 1812 but found it much too cold. Soon though, nothing will be left to stop us!

Then we shall advance, making you pay for your insolent... Ah... You guys, you, ah...

We will think of some atrocity you’re guilty of, mark my words! Likely something involving hokey. I guess we could wait until you win another world series but that could take centuries... Chainsaws of mass destruction? No. I know! You could start selling nuclear technology to China and... No, that would cut into our profits.

Anyway, your days are numbered!

In seriousness though, I quite like Canada and am considering it as a possible defection site. I would also like to apologize to the man in Toronto whom I stabbed back in ‘96 for saying “Hello” to me at three in the morning. I was confused and assumed you were after my wallet.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 476 (view)
 
Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany *
Posted: 4/21/2007 4:12:06 PM
This is the sort of talk people should be careful of.


Your president was recently quoted as stating that his citizens don't have the right to think for themselves ........ unless they agree with him.


This is very unhelpful. No, he didn’t. I’m sure he thinks it, but he didn’t say it. I’m as big a Bush-basher as they come but you are using a foolish tactic here. This is something heavily employed by the far-right, just SAY something is so with conviction and a large segment of dip-shits will assume it’s so. It only works, however, if they are already inclined to accept what you say as gospel regardless of facts. It accomplishes nothing and detracts from legitimate arguments.


Used examples of a few crazies in some ethnicity to justify attacks upon the entire community. Then use that conflict to solidify the nation and keep them too busy to look at and address the actual problems in that society. Germany chose Jews, America chose Muslims.


Again, NOT so. Nothing remotely close has happened in the U.S. It is the Muslim world that puts contracts out on authors for books they don’t like, riots over cartoons, and threatens to chop people’s heads off for saying they’re violent.

In taking a blanket “anti-America” stance like this you ignore similar and worse behavior elsewhere because you want to be as “black & white, good-guys vs. bad guys as Bush himself. It a sign of an inferior mind at work and good for nothing. You’re propping your ego up with an\ visceral assumption of self-superiority over an arbitrary grouping of people. Much like the Nazis did to the Jews...

We must be careful in our finger pointing, there are mirrors everywhere.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 473 (view)
 
Seeing haters as foolish is not hateing
Posted: 4/21/2007 9:00:10 AM

Then who takes power and what prevents them from abusing power. And what is this better system you propose. Please educate me starvartist. All I see when I study the past is a cycle of either worse taking power or it just goes through a cycle where a lot of average Joe blows die in a revolution maybe some good people get into power like during the American revolution and then eventually the system becomes corrupt again.


Obviously this is not a forum for hashing-out a detailed political system so you are baiting here but I will make a few fine points:

1) A Civil Service based political system. Limit political office to a narrowed category of people who are part of a national beaurocracy. Time-in and departmental experience standards can then be established as eligibility requirements for any given office. ALL elections could be 100% publicly funded. Media outlets being required to provide set amounts of air time since they are using a public resource--which was the original concept here though it was thrown away in practice.

These people would make a nice time in service salary and an augmentation based on office held. They would be strictly audited each and every year to assure they had NO OTHER income sources. Part of the price you pay for a position of power and influence. No one with nefarious motives would likely want to deal with such an arrangement and go elsewhere.

Numerous implementation cross-checking issues are doubtless popping into your head about this (they are in mine) but nothing unmanageable, and as I said, this is a rough concept not suited to lengthy discourse here.

2) Socialize ALL public necessities. Medicine and pharmaceutical R&D. Absolute must. There should be no profit in other people’s suffering. It is an unnecessary motivation in any case as health is its own reward here. Indeed, what are the chances of ANY disease ever being cured if selling drugs is the only motivating factor. Take “Restless Leg Syndrome”. THAT is what you get when money is the driving force behind health-care. That and a lot of homeless veterans.

I was a patient at Walter Reed for a year and what you heard on the news doesn’t scratch the surface of what’s going wrong there since running the hospital has been contracted-out. It’s much like any county hospital, in fact. The few that survive are basically worthless, not because they are staffed by inferior people but because they serve the lower classes who are of no value to people like you. They’re always more poor people to clean your toilet so what do you care if they die like flies, right?

3) Nationalize the legal system, top to bottom. In fact, THIS would fall into the category listed in #1. You become a lawyer you work for the government. You work on a rotating schedule until you are made a judge: Defend/Prosecute/Jurist. I’m not a huge fan of the jury of one’s peers concept. I’ve met many of my peers and found them to be jack-asses by and large.

This should be done by professionals who understand the law, are not going to be taken-in by theatrics and naked emotionalism by just wanting to punish SOMEONE so why not whoever has been dragged in front of them. People who understand the fact that eye-witness testimony (though charged and impressive) is VERY unreliable even when the individual in question is trying to be sincere, etc.

4) Energy production needs to be under public control. As it stands now, it is THE cause of militarism among modern states and it's turning the place we all need to live into a hell-hole. The idea of letting it reach crisis point and people will figure it out then is beyond foolish.


Why tear down the system where there are peaceful ways for the right people to get into power. I will disagree.


Because the one we have now is UTTERLY broken and protects itself against any reform. There is no way for an uncorrupted person to raise through the ranks when corruption is a requirement of advancement as it is here and now.


Good men do get into power and more good men are finding ways to out compete the corrupt. Other wise you might as well just say corrupt are more powerful than the honest. I believe that is just a lie the corrupt promote to create despair so honest people feel it is useless to act and try to make positive change.


I will just refer you back to my earlier Carter reference. This could be (and probably should be) a separate thread as we’re biting off quite a chunk here.


I would love to hear of a way to get the socio paths out of power but the only way I see it is to educate people and support the right types.


Education is now a privilege of the ruling class. What do you mean here? ONLY THEY have the chops to lead? They certainly think so. This is an empty and circular argument used to prop-up caste structures since time-immemorial. This is getting long so I will drop this now, the point I want to make here is that your flag-waving hasn’t chased away the gremlins, or demons, or whatever else the wacko-right claims is the source of our troubles. Getting-out of the middle ages (as opposed to just joining the Muslim world there) might be of some help. Worth a try.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 469 (view)
 
Don't be a hater hater.
Posted: 4/20/2007 12:55:16 PM

The problem is not with the corporate power structure either. The problem is with a few in the corporate power structure who abuse their power just like the problem in Islam is the few who abuse their power etc etc etc.


It's not? The entire system is geared to creating an aristocracy who owns everyone else. Do you really believe that Paris Hilton is your natural master? She does, and so do the rest of them. As for the other, people who claim the world is 6,000 years old and runs on magic (Muslim or christains) are deluded nit-wits who just can't accept the fact that the entire universe isn't about them. It is wanton ignorance and will kill us all if allowed to continue.


Some of us in all cultures try to stand up to those who abuse power and who hate. We try to support men and woman of honor who help people, who care.


There is only one way to stand up to those in power, take their power away from them. The system in this country is corrupted from top to bottom and can not be reformed without being torn to the ground and remade from scratch.

The closest thing we've had to an honest man in the white house was Carter and his presidency was a disaster because of it. He was elected as a knee-jerk reaction to Watergate and since he and his people didn't play the typical Washington games they were shut-out and left impudent for it. If a leader came to power in this country who had the country's (as opposed to the wealthy's) interests at heart they would be doomed to fail from minute one.


I brought up about what I heard in New Orleans. But here comes someone who says Americans are spreading nuclear waste all over Iraq to kill people. That creates a smoke screen because many will say yeah right about the spreading of Nuclear waste. Then people will not believe those who are truly trying to expose actions of social injustice from those in power.


It's a sad fact about our times (really any time but worse now do to TV) that people are so entrenched in what they WANT to believe that they will accept anything said to further their agenda, true or false. It's not just the right who do it either, Michael Moor and Al Sharpton are among the worst offenders here along side Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Rilley.

They do this because it works. Half-the people in this country think we DID find WMD's in Iraq. Legions of half-wits who want more then anything to avoid having to think for themselves. And who can blame them? It's scary out here. Trouble is, the truth will always find you and knock you up-side the head before it's done.


My advice is to not join others in their hate of others and try to get others to join us in our peace and love. As mother Theresa said, “ The way to save the world is one person at a time.


A nice thought, but it's slave talk. There are people who just need to be put down, and it's no virtue to be a sheep, whatever the crossers say. Talk of peace and love will never move those among us who think it's their birthright to use others as chattel. They need to go.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 462 (view)
 
Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany
Posted: 4/19/2007 3:12:31 PM
Well, that's a major component of foreign/domestic policy here. Deliberately fan all the anti-American rhetoric they can find, show it on TV in the states on a continuous loop and presto! Everyone feels so isolated and under threat from outside here that it can lead you to the conclusion you have no where to go but to the hard-liners since everyone wants you dead now. That it was these same hardliner's fault become an ironic, but ultimately irrelevant footnote beside survival.

Clever really, and people say they do NOTHING right. Evil points for Karl Rove!

Still, it truly is a matter of class across the board, not nationality, that constitutes the underlying condition. The people we need to be worried about are above any and all nations. Their rules, they make them up, break them as they please.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 460 (view)
 
Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany
Posted: 4/19/2007 1:37:04 PM

The US already is as bad as Nazi Germany, even worse in some ways...
The US has traditionally installed murderous dictators, all threw Central and South America, which has led to the death of millions in that region...Also, in South East Asia, during the "Vietnamese Holocaust" there were 4 million people exterminated from the US...Also, in the Iraq the US has spread depleted Uranium all threw the country and has been responsible for the extermination of close to "2 million"
Iraqi's via genocidal sanctions and acts of dropping radiation threw Iraq..
They say that the radiation will be at a deadly level for the next "billion years"
birth defects alone in Iraq are happening in the thousands due to the use of radiation
from the US...The US is the new world fascists...everyone knows it...even Americans do...


True enough, but trying to scapegoat one country for no reason other then it's the biggest at the moment is not an act of intellectual heroics, Canook. If we really want to break down, play by play, all the rude things that have been done by people based on nationalism, the U.S. isn’t close to any western European nation.

You are falling into a classic (to be rude, “common”) misconception. The problem isn’t the United States. The U.S. doesn’t exist any more, not in any meaningful way. The country has been completely co-opted by business interests. The government here serves the same role that the clergy did in Europe of the middle ages, an administrative dumping ground for lesser sons of the nobility.

This is happening EVERYWHERE, however. Don’t be so blinded by your desire to feel better then Americans that you miss that. It happened here first because this country was the wealthiest where the largest business interests were headquartered. Don’t think for a moment that the wealthy in every country (including yours) are on the same pages as these people. Countries are yesterday’s news. Class is what we need concern ourselves with today if we don’t wish to be slaves. If all you’re interested in is feeling self-superior then you’re picking too easy a target to stand out as special.

Good luck to you up there, sorry to hear we’re enemies because you don’t like people from where I was born.

Ta...
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 64 (view)
 
If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 4/19/2007 1:17:28 PM

free enterprise?????? Unregulated Corp Greed is not the same as free enterprise. Ask the small business person. Unregulated and Free speech $$ to the elected is far from enterprise. Walmart gets tax break for property taxes to open a store and little guy doesnt. Little guy closes shop......loss to tax base and Walmart grows....loss to tax base. Free enterprise???? Goverment has to have regulations for Business. If not we will look like the USA , today.......


Well, here is the rub with capitalism. When you rely upon greed as the sole motivating factor in human endeavors you get what you ask for. It is "free" in that it is utterly without restraint. What we are experiencing here, I think, is the dying days of the nation state. Lots of people will simply claim that the U.S. is boned because it's a bloated and depraved empire, drunk on past accomplishments and self-indulgence. While true, everyone else is going down with this ship too.

The family gave way to the clan, the clan to the tribe... Oligarchies and monarchies passed in time, the modern country has seen its day come and go. Police and fire services are fully privatized in many communities, prisons are built and run for profit. Soon it will be about the company you work for not the place you were born that demands your allegiance. While no government was perfect (or even very good) they at least had SOME responsibility to the welfare of their populations. Business has no such concern or constraint.

The only possible way out of extinction (and corporate domination of human affairs will unavoidably bring us down that road as only short term gain matters there) is to place ANYTHING having to do with the public good to be completely nationalized and wealth caps be placed on individuals. No owning property you don’t live on, no place of business you don’t personally operate, etc.

Totally eliminating any form of personal gain would be destructive as well. After the French Revolution they enforced a civil service that was so obsessed with being egalitarian they didn’t even allow ability to perform a job be a qualification. It was disastrous and helped Napoleon become emperor, a strongman needed to step in and take immediate control.

I don’t see the privileged classes giving anything up though, no matter the ultimate costs to themselves or anyone else. They simply have to go, and on this point I think the French revolution would make an excellent model to emulate. Some people just deserve to die for the things they’ve done. The wealthy of this country fall into that category for me.

Some will say that not all the rich are guilty of crimes against their fellows. I would respond by saying that I don’t care. More people die of poverty every week then bought the farm in that tsunami everyone got so worked up about, but you never hear a word about it. One stupid little blond gets wasted and goes missing in Aruba and it’s non-stop on your TV for weeks. So what if a few of THEIR innocent die for a change?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Dealing with wine snobs...Help.
Posted: 4/18/2007 7:59:46 PM
Bring a bottle of Mezcal, a surly attitude, and backhand anyone who looks at you funny.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 458 (view)
 
Is the USA in danger of becomeing as bad as Nazi Germany
Posted: 4/17/2007 8:28:10 PM
Hey, "ninjasword" (rolls eyes),

Go and find some Mohawks (you can't have killed ALL of them) and ask them about how tollerant you are. And YOU dip sh*ts just elected a guy to the right of Atilla the Hun. Best keep your trap shut, snowback.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 53 (view)
 
If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 4/17/2007 8:19:19 PM
Oh, and one more item: Don’t you dare put down complaining. It is the basis of all art and cultural advancement. You would realize this if you weren’t a soulless, brain-dead bean counter.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 52 (view)
 
If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 4/17/2007 8:07:37 PM
ON MX220: Aww, look! It’s trying to think...


ME: Damn, you're retarded.

YOU: What an intelligent use of words for a debate.


On my use of words; I am a laconic man who values word economy and these said it just fine.


ME: Sure, there is a lot more wealth in the country, only fewer and fewer people have it.

YOU: Do you favor socialism over a free enterprise society?


Regarding socialism over a free enterprise society: If required to make choice it would be the former. They are not, however, so mutually exclusive as the All For One (as in me) capitalist would like to think.

Now I know what comes next: "What about Russia or where have you? You can't hold Russia, China, North Korea or anyone else against the concept of socialism any more then you can hold the U.S. against democracy just because it failed here.

Frankly there should be public control over public affairs. Medicine, the law, energy production, and a few others. Business is no more efficient--THAT is a myth. Plus, a for-profit group will always, without exception, behave dishonorably for profit.

Take Walter Reed. I was a patient there for a year, discharged 2 years ago, and let me assure you you haven't heard about 1/10th the BS there. BTW, did YOU enlist for this war you clearly love so much, rich boy? The problems there got out of control once it was contracted out to the private sector.

Take prisons (which are also for profit to build and maintain) and the psychotic, draconian sentencing laws that were such through on flimsy pretenses of "protecting children" by plastering some child molester's face on TV and pretending the legislation is in any way related. Using it as a basis to attack anyone who disputes it. What a hideous way to use a person. (And yes, I was molested as a child so don't even THINK of trying to play that card... bad things will happen)

Where were we? Ah yes...


ME: People like you should be killed. Keep it up and one day you all will be.

YOU: This is what you determined after reading one sentence the OP wrote?


Yes. I'm that good.


Starvartist, I think you're probably just p*ssed off because you see a lot of others doing better than you. Maybe those 'yuppies' went through several years of college to get where they are today. They may have been in debt up to their eyeballs when they graduated. Some may have come from very humble beginnings (like Oprah Winfrey and Ronald Reagan). Ever thought that maybe they worked their asses off to get where they are? There are complainers and there are doers. Guess which ones are the most successful?


As to the that: I went to college, I'm a MENSA member in fact, so I'm not stupid. I am certainly not lazy, no one survives long at the bottom of the heap if they are. Laziness is more a pastime of YOUR class.

I understand the predisposition of your ilk to assume anyone not of the “well-bred” classes is an ignorant peasant. Basically, your nothing but an unnecessary and parasitic social elite that must justify its existence somehow.

As to the assumption your kind always tries to slip-in that anyone with talent and the desire to work hard will be rewarded, might I suggest you lay off the recreational pharmaceuticals. Take a good look at your beloved leader, King Dubya. THAT is the face of success in America. Him and Paris Hilton. You’re so right--all I want is to be like you.

And if you all value people who “pull themselves up by their own boot straps” then what’s the resistance to the Parasite Tax? (or as you call it the “death tax”)

Not everyone values what you value. This is what's so sickening about your kind. You assume any resentment of you has to be jealousy. It isn't, it's disgust. And I haven't complained about MY life, have I? Just yours.

I am, in fact, quite happy about the way in which I’ve conducted my life. What I’m upset with is YOUR behavior. You and people like you. Users and despoilers who think of nothing beyond their own gain and willing to twist their little brains into pretzels to justify their avarice.

So, any other piercing insights into my character, you pedantic, effete little pr*ck? Or have you learned your place?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Quantum immortality
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:24:30 PM
I shall preform this interesting experiment on my landlord and report back the results.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Time as a spacial dimention
Posted: 4/16/2007 2:11:43 PM
Physics peeps, who claim to be able to mathematicly prove 11 dimentions, always seem to refer to time as related to but not the same as spacial dimentions. I have trouble accepting this.

If we are 3D, would we not at least pecieve the next (4th) direction in some extremely limmited way? Like, the way we do time. Could time not simply be the next higher direction of movement that we can not move through with any freedom, our sensing only it's most shallow (to use a lame 3D expression) surface?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 81 (view)
 
Black holes...help!
Posted: 4/16/2007 11:04:56 AM
A few points: First gravity actually isn't perfectly constant everywhere on Earth. The variances are utterly small and beyond unassisted detection but they are there. This would be true of all bodies.

While the term "hole" is not exact here it is also not as inaccurate as it might at first seem. Space itself is curved or bent by the presence of a physical object so there is a hole in a sense. Because a BH rotates up to several times a second, objects will be drawn into its accretion disk along its equator before entering the event horizon--the point where light can no longer escape because escape velocity exceeds the speed of light. This requires quantum mechanics to describe in detail as we are dealing with more then 3-dimentional space.

Also, not everything pulled-in by the BH actually ends-up there, much of it is thrown-off in polar quasars. Imagine trying to fill a dog dish with a fire hose. Also, black holes slowly evaporate over time, bleeding off subatomic particles a few per second. This is the Hawking Radiation that made Steven Hawking a household name. The time scale for this are measured in goggles of years (1o to the 1ooth power).

Goggle "Neil DeGrass Tyson" to find his website. He's an astrophysicist and curator of the Hayden Planetarium in NYC. He is well versed in describing these effects in layman terms.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 47 (view)
 
If George W bush is doing so bad why is the economy doing so good?
Posted: 4/16/2007 10:47:03 AM

Just about all of us are driving nice cars and living in expensive houses so whats all the fuss about our president not doing his part to keep the economy in tac.


Damn, you're retarded. Who is this "Just about all of us" you invoke here? Typical of the yuppie "mind." Everyone else is a servant so they are beneath notice, eh? Invisible as they should be.

Sure, there is a lot more wealth in the country, only fewer and fewer people have it. Not to mention that working people are being starved into crushing poverty because YOUR KIND is trying to resurect slavery through the back door we call the Mexican boarder.

People like you should be killed. Keep it up and one day you all will be.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Why do some many people on the right spew the word LIBERAL without knowing the meaning of the word
Posted: 4/16/2007 10:41:54 AM
The whole point here is to purposefully misrepresent the word inorder to change it's meaning through common usage. A very old tactic that has gained tramendous momentum in the information age of instant media. Orwell called it "Double Speak," today it's "political corectness," which is as much invoked by the right as the left dispite their claims to be its sole victims.

If you control the language you control the debate. Most people are stupid enough to believe anything they hear said enough times.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1224 (view)
 
Does an illegal immigrant deserve the same respect as a legal immigrant/citizen?
Posted: 4/13/2007 6:41:37 PM

Ladies and Gent's you are not better than any criminal, including illegal aliens, we all are as imperfect as intolerant of other's imperfections. Even though our self-illusion makes one think otherwise…


And I just had to mention this. " you (everyone) are not better then any criminal..." So, no one is better then a child molester? A paid assassin? Chinese government officials who execute petty criminals to sell their organs to rich foreigners? Come now. Being tollerent can go WAY too far. Do you stop to think at all about what you spout?
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1223 (view)
 
Does an illegal immigrant deserve the same respect as a legal immigrant/citizen?
Posted: 4/13/2007 6:22:45 PM

Is that what you would call someone, if he were to come to your boss and apply for your job and showed that he could do a better job, faster and for a lot less money? Now would you call him the same if he were just another American who lost his job and is in much more desperate situation than yours?
Would he be considered the "lowest form of filth on the planet"?


Question 1) You are trying to slip-in the assumption that I as an American am lazy and don't work as well as a Mexican. Racist and nonsensical.

Question 2) Yes, you may recall (if you've ever studied American history) that this practice was rife in the early part of this centuary as buisness owner fought against unions to maintain horrific working conditions and used small children in dangerous work. Again, you seek to imply my remark was racial when it clearly wasn't. Discredit an argument you have no real answer to by attacking the one who made it. LOW.

Question 3) See above.

Poor people (where ever they are) are more my country then the U.S. as far as I'm concerned but that does not excuse them from stabbing their fellows in the back, and in the end they are just helping those who want to opress both of us do so.

You had NO RIGHT to try and misrepresent what I said, which is exactly what you did.

That makes you the racist in my book.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1213 (view)
 
Does an illegal immigrant deserve the same respect as a legal immigrant/citizen?
Posted: 4/11/2007 6:50:15 PM
I cannot express how disgusted I am by much of what I've read here. I left an $18/hour job when I went into the military and came home (after a lovely stay at Walter Reed) to find my job was gone, now below minimum wage and off the books.

I hear much talk about the "welfare state" and such crap. Welfare is a drop in the ocean next to the subsidies provided to huge multi-nationals so why not start there if your so concerned about your tax money. And take note that your beloved and patriotic Haliburton moved its "headquarters" to Dubi to avoid paying ANY taxes.

There is also talk about how we "stole" this country in the first place. Okay. Who hasn't stolen a country. EVERY PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH have been involved in a migration at some point and they are always bloody.

Should the Brittish leave Britain? The Normans stole it from the Saxons. The Saxons stole it from the Celts. The Celts stole it from the Picts...

THE FACTS ARE THIS: The rich want to bring back slavery. (not using the name slave doesn't change the condition) They do this by pitting poor people against each other, screwing ALL of them in doing so.

While, as a working class person, I have nothing but sympathy for people in other countries wanting to improve their lot, THEY HAVE NO JUSTIFICATION for breaking into my home, stealing from me, then explain it away it by saying I'm lazy. I assure you I am not. I work now doing the same thing elsewhere at $10.25/hour with about 1/2 immigrants and they don't work any more or less then the rest of us.

This is exactly what the current crop of illegals are doing. There are no jobs Americans won't do, we just want a living wage for our blood and sweat. There's a name for people who take other people's jobs, driving them into poverty: SCABS, and they are the lowest form of filth on the planet.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 291 (view)
 
are women leery of guys over 30 who have never been married?
Posted: 3/4/2007 7:13:43 PM
This is madness. Why would someone think there is something wrong with you for not getting married. Is it an obligation to be married?

I don't trust people who HAVE been married because it proves their word is worth nothing.

Sound hostile? GOOD... Don't really mean that but wanted to illistrate the point.

ANYONE WHO THINKS A PERSON HAS TO GET MARRIED AND IS OF QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER IF THEY HAVEN'T IS MENTALY AND MORALY INFERIOR. PERIOD.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 79 (view)
 
IS IT WRONG TO SET A MAN UP TO CHECK HIM OUT??
Posted: 1/31/2007 6:47:10 AM
One of my best friends once went to a bar and some strange woman started hitting on him. While flattered he turned her down flatly, indeed they went on to have a long talk about the woman he was planning to marryand how very much in love with her he was.

Some time later he was looking for a blank cassette tape and found one with only a date on it. Not wanting to record over anything important he listened to it and heard this conversation he had many weeks earlier.

His "wonderful" girlfriend had hired a service to check on him, to "set him up" as you say. And while HE passed with flying colors SHE DID NOT. He broke up with her that night and we (his actual friends who actually care about him) COULDN'T be happier about it.

My experience, knowing a lot of women as friends, is that (too be blunt) women cheat at least as much and probobly a great deal more then men. They just think it's "different" when they do it. If you distrust someone enough to do something like that you shouldn't be involved with them in the first place.

One of the greatest problems men have with women is that (to a great extent) women have NO sense of accountability. Anything they do is fine, anything a man does is wrong. YOU WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER have a decent relationship with a man because decent men WILL NOT put up with BS like this. You're DOOMED, honey... Enjoy the scumbags, that's what you'll be getting.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 50 (view)
 
only in america
Posted: 1/30/2007 9:26:08 AM
We are a dying and bloated empire. Surely you know what THAT's like. Our leader is an autistic rodeo clown and prosides over a congragation of genetic backwash that think the world is 6,00 years old and I say GOOD!!!

I wish we could keep him forever. Hell, I'd like to see him made emperor! I am a huge fan of entropy in general, and as a member of the american Underclass I think I would do very nicely for myself in a Mad Max sort of sanerio.

I am currently involved in a project to build a submarine out of old milk crates inorder to flee this place, as more conventional means of ex-patriating are out of my price range. Wish me luck!

Jason The B'astard

(No one uses discriptive surnames any more, I find them fun and informative)
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 106 (view)
 
Blue Tooth on a date, your thoughts?
Posted: 1/26/2007 5:54:03 AM
Anyone who speaks on the phone in generaly is worthless scum that's just trying to look important. Frankly, were it me, I'd have been too embarrassed to be even seen with someone wearing such a thing. ALL GOOD & DECENT PEOPLE HIDE IN A CORNER IN SHAME WHEN FORCED TO MAKE A PUBLIC PHONE CALL AND WOULD NEVER ENGAGE IN ONE SAVE IN GRAVE EMERGENCY.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 53 (view)
 
Is Sarcasm Funny?
Posted: 1/25/2007 11:45:56 PM
To me, half the fun of being a wise-ass is people not being sure. This causes my "in person" delivery to be ratyher dead-pan and more obvious in print. It's primarily a stylistic matter, the best way to know for certain is to test new material on people you have no interest in and whom it might even be fun to irritate. In the end, all humor is basaed upon injury, just as all games contain the idea of death.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Still a virgin or are you scared?
Posted: 1/25/2007 7:59:49 PM
Blastkist;

I have a 148 IQ, MENSA member, published writer, and can't spell worth a damn. You strike me as something of a prick. As to "Qualifications" (interesting way to put it) what the hell do you know about this person? And I for one think brooding is quite sexy too, so there! People who gop around denouncing strangers and telling them they're unhappy fascinate me.

As to: "Want a friend? One solution. Be one." Again I must ask, where the hell is this coming from?

Please flush your head down the toilet, ta!
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Ode To An All-Night Diner
Posted: 1/25/2007 5:28:56 PM
A point in transit, a lifetime apart,
Forever lost in the smokestack jungle.
No hero, just a walk-on neurotic,
No lover, just a passing addiction.
No reasons, answers, or explanations;
Just a turtle on his back by the sea.
Where can you go to find someone to love
Who won’t try to cut your throat in the night?
Where can you go once the bars have all closed
And you still haven’t found satisfaction?

To the all-night diner where the unmatched
Have gathered to talk of sports, whores and cars.
Bitter young boys that time has imprisoned
In exhausted and broken old bodies.
Their degenerate wisdom filling the
Air with a smoke that burns the eyes and mind.
This entire scene could turn ugly soon
But that would be perfectly fine by me,
The road of excess led me here and I’m
Feeling more then just a little betrayed

Welcome to the American stage, which
Has now been set for a very dark play:
Please Note Tickets Are Not Refundable.
Tales of blood orgies in old money homes,
Scenes of cut-throat real estate warfare and
The ever-popular playground shootings.
Ordained ministers with truck-stop hookers
In cheap motels all along the Highway,
Investment bankers whipping their daughters
And gnawing upon the bones of their dead

Strung-out on endless celebrity news
And wet-dreams about the office upstairs,
It seems as if everyone’s freaking-out
And getting bloated on sugar and hate.
These people are jonesin’ the High Life bad
And shooting it up with a dirty rig.
I’m sick of hearing myself complain but
I don’t have anything better to do,
I can’t find even one pair of eyes not
Doped-up and glazed on this apple pie shit.

What more could these people possibily want?
They already have the family farm,
And why did I ever bother with school
Or get mixed-up with life on the Highway?
I guess my nose belongs on a grindstone
Or buried deep in the classified ads,
But I’m just one death shy of redemption
And finding a job never helps at all.
There’s always something to eat-up the cash
And always a toilet to be flushed down.

And what’s all this talk of cats being killed
For no reason except wanting the truth?
Some bullshit you get with your diploma
No doubt, when they fianly cut you loose.
Either cut you loose or cast you adrift,
It doesn’t much matter out on the street.
Who would have thought that sex could be lethal
Or that rain would be deadly, poison scum?
As for me, I’m saving my pennies and
Ammo for one final shot at the crown.

I think I should have been a holy man,
Or had a traveling medicine show.
In another age and another place
They might have even called me a prophet;
Here I’m just another junkie and a
Garden veriety playground sniper
That can’t hold a job as a drug store clerk.
I’m such a hopeless romantic as well,
I can’t get it up without drawing blood
Or convincing myself it’s Judgement Day.

Kissed by a muse and then kicked in the ass,
Like some refugee from a million scenes
Who has been spending all his peace of mind
Just trying to keep from losing his shit,
And all of his time in all-night diners
Wishing that it could be warmer outside.
The end of my rope, my last cigarette,
And hours ‘till the liquor stores open.
I’m doing my best to hold-off the wolves
But it seems they always smell the panic.

Can I see something more real and more now,
Something my senses might tell me is true?
Can I leave this place and get back to the
Highway where the Buddha roams with the rogues?
Maybe I’ll crash a party tonight and
Ride the ship to the bottom of the sea,
Fire a bone with Davy Jones and try
To forget that I had ever been here.
When you’re ready to buy it, just take a
Number, and don’t bother packing your shit.

I’ve been sleeping in beds for far too long,
It’s time that I shook the dust from these boots,
Took one final ride on the Wild Wind
And cashed-in all of my chickens that hatched.
Let me just get off the subject for now,
I really need to slip out of these chains.
Fill my cup with the joy of a sunrise,
The brew they push here is far too bitter
For a damn fool bent on falling in love,
Reaching the Land, and staying out of jail.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 62 (view)
 
Ever date someone with BPD? (Borderline Personality Disorder)
Posted: 1/25/2007 5:18:41 PM
While I myself have not, all my old girlfriends have. BPD is a catch-all for people who find themselves dealing with shrinks and refuse to kiss their asses. If you go online and examine the "deffinition" of the "disorder" you'll find it describes about 80% of the people you know including all of them that are even vaguely interesting.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Do You All Understand???
Posted: 1/25/2007 4:57:22 PM
Hate to be the negitive nancy here, but the one useful thing I learned from my last long term relationship is that "Hanged" is the correct form of the word when refering to a person. The nice police man who was kind enough to take her down told me that. I later looked it up and he was right.

Not to say that you don't make some good points but I ernestly disbelieve the "everything happens for a grander purpose" philosophy. That kind of thinking can allow you to continue very stupid behavior. Most relationships fail because people are simply unrealistic and not willing to put in the work required, and it's a lot. Biologicly, the pure "love urge" is not meant to last more then a few years. Enough to rear a child to a point of relitive safety.

Now I am NOT saying that a relationship can't last longer then that or that it can't be a thing of true passion even many years later. But THAT kind of relationship you build from the ground up. You give up a very real part of yourself in the doing but it is worth while (for some) because you are far more then the sum of yourselves when it's right. THIS IS NOT FOR EVERYONE and I frankly suspect most people don't really want that. Society has told us we must be married for life but few romances can (or should) do so.

Relationships go the way those in them direct them to go. I really think we need to de-mystify much of our romantic thinking. Turning it into some shallow, 2-dimentional nirvanna is a disservice to ourselves, our mates, children, and all. the real thing is far more interesting and like any artistic skill (which love most certainly is) requires a deep understanding of its mechanics to do well.

Hope I don't sound like too much of a cynical jerk, just mouthing off as I'll do...
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 38 (view)
 
I'm seeing this guy and my daughter thinks he's ugly
Posted: 1/25/2007 1:34:50 AM
Your daughter, at age 7, is legally obliged to be shallow and stupid. Why what she thinks on this matter should bother you at all is a little strange. Mayhaps YOU have an issue here that you're not looking in the face?

Just a thought.
 starvartist
Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
i will never beable to get over this one...
Posted: 1/25/2007 1:20:18 AM
"I was just telling you all this so i could maybe get some better advice other than the advice that tells me to forget about him."

Okay, KILL him. No, no... NEVER tell a woman that. I really hate to tell you this but this "Cory" fellow is what we in the "being decent" buisness refer to as a: DOUCHE BAG. Overwhelmed by attention, he can not help but encourange and succum to it. Best it happened before the kid arrives. THAT would have made things far worse.

Another unavoidable fact: He would have left you eventually anyhow. Some people are essentually useless and need to find even greater losers to take care of. Count yourself lucky to be out of this weirdness.

If it makes you feel any better this "Jerremy" character will likely kill them both.
 
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