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majoa

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Why do women post pictures of their breasts in thier profile? Posted: 2/21/2005 12:04:17 AM
Why not? I don't care why. I think it must be pure accident. Well maybe not. Even men want a chest. It makes the chin look like it is not 'sticking' to far out. That is, to have a chest. If it was purely accidental, then it would not be 'intimidating'....

majoa

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I Want To Know What It Feels Like To Be Without You Posted: 2/20/2005 11:49:36 PM
Pre-script: Thinking is feeling. One day I went to my friends house and my friend was not there. I entered the house and for some reason fell asleep in one of the rooms, on the floor, perhaps it was the laundry room. Late at night I thought I would be mistaken for an intruder. But no. I was awoken to sensuous life, which is endless. I am not 'with anyone' but I did have this dream. Having nothing, I have hadmore, than I possibly could imagine having in reality. Why is that? The only idea which is 'real' is the idea of the whole. Therefore, the only time we feel the most 'real' is when we have an idea of the whole, and that might occur in a dream, or by being awoken by a 'dream'. It was friend who awoke me in my dream, and we are not married, nor do we see each other often. Strange, because it has happenedd with me before. Someone will pay a visit to us in a dream and bring this vision with them. This friend came to me in my dreams and made me feel whole and exsquitely happy. And I know it was nothing, because it never really happened. Endless Life I thought it was you as I entered the room of silence and then when no one answered I fell asleep on a soft small pile in a room I forgot then late in the night you entered and were worried that I was a thief when I awoke I found you swallowing me whole like a anaconda and I was glad for that you were laughing instead of your anger as I expected you wrapped me about you while I was still asleep and could only move and moan and hugged me back to delight as though I was the only one the very first time and what wanton desire I thought you would never answer again to find your embrace after emptiness then in my dreams I knew you wanted me

majoa

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Confessions of the mind Posted: 2/20/2005 11:35:37 PM
Endless Life I thought it was you as I entered the room of silence and then when no one answered I fell asleep on a soft pile in a room I forgot then late in the night you entered and were worried that I was a thief when I awoke I found you swallowing me whole like a anaconda and I was glad for that you were laughing instead of your anger you wrapped me about you while I was still asleep and could only move and moan and what love I thought you would never answer again to find your embrace after emptiness then in my dreams I knew you wanted me

majoa

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confessions of the mind Posted: 2/14/2005 11:22:54 PM
A Garden of Rock Talk to me baby walk with me to the stars whisk me from this planet and take us to Mars when we land our knees in the sand give me a kiss to know where is land & move this world up apon a rock is where I stand somewhere over there in this desolate place are rosettes labile and light made from lava and bright pyrite thrusts from crevasse below strong and smooth glistening from below circular overlapping flows just like dark gardenias glistening in dew please take me away from all this rock and edge I can stand it no longer my melting heart is ready and waiting but just only for you i freeze

majoa

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long sexy hair Posted: 2/14/2005 11:02:54 PM
Just hold your nose and breath in for awhile.

majoa

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I Want To Know What It Feels Like To Be Without You Posted: 2/14/2005 8:03:03 PM
Smooth Fury Peaches On a Man Hair is attractive and so are ears on a man. A pear on a man though is a delicacy relished only on occasion when they are ripe firm and unscented. Peaches on a man, will purr sweet lee smooth fury peaches on a man make a purfect destiny Majao

majoa

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I Want To Know What It Feels Like To Be Without You Posted: 2/14/2005 7:34:12 PM
Smooth Fury Peaches On a Man Hair is attractive and so are ears on a man. A pear on a man though is a delicacy relished only on occasion when they are ripe firm and unscented. Peaches on a man, will purr sweet lee smooth fury peaches on a man make a purfect destiny Majao

majoa

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Smooth Fury Peaches On a Man Posted: 2/14/2005 7:30:02 PM
Hair is attractive, and so are ears, on a man. A pear on a man, though is a delicacy relished only on occassion when they are ripe firm and unscented. Peaches on a man, will purr sweet smooth fury peaches on a man Majao

majoa

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MALAYSIAN WOMEN AND UNIVERSITY Posted: 2/14/2005 6:53:23 PM
Malaysia is a predominantly muslim country "... there are more women than men studying at university, women have better opportunities on the jobs market than their sisters in many western countries and they count among their number a head of a central bank, a public prosecutor and an ambassador. However, the process of re-islamicisation that has taken place over the past 25 years has made the secularly governed Malaysia more conservative, more narrow-minded and less tolerant, especially with regard to women." http://www.qantara.de/webcom/show_article.php/_c-307/_nr-20/_p-1/i.html take back the veil

MAJOA

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IRAN AND WOMEN ENTERING UNIVERSITY Posted: 2/14/2005 6:47:03 PM
IRAN "More and more young Iranian women are leaving home to attend college. Female students currently account for 60 percent of all university entrants. Even young women from villages and small towns are forsaking traditional life to pursue higher education in the cities. To reassure parents that their daughters will be in safe hands, universities, which are run by religious leaders, have imposed strict guidance controls over the lives of female students. Even though a college degree does not guarantee them a job, Iranian women are relishing their newfound access to higher education."

MAJOA

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Wine and Arabia Posted: 2/14/2005 6:43:10 PM
http://www.gospelcom.net/rbc/questions/answer.php?catagory=ethics&folder=alcohol&topic=Consumption+Of+Alcohol&file=consume.xml This link is interesting in that it shows that it is not possible to prevent grape juice from fermenting unless it is frozen, or sterilized by heat as is the case with all types of fruit drinks. "Unfermented grape juice is a very difficult thing to keep without the aid of modern antiseptic precautions, and its preservation in the warm and not overly clean conditions of ancient Palestine is impossible (p.3086)."

MAJOA

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Upside Down in the Reverse Position Posted: 2/14/2005 6:26:06 PM
Drops on any reflective surface, - plunk and ding - sodden and sudden - plink and sink - they dissappear leaving echo-like rings outward radiating little waves undulating and receding into the still and far off-shores a strange cadence raindrops not like snow or wind which push and cause our eyes to blink except in a furry they cause too much color like our eyes white coronas gardenias violets she has them and purple loose strife to accent her jubilent eyes all a strange rythmn rain on a day without purpose then she ran aground my sandals got wet I tripped on a rope and landed upside down in the reverse position

majoa

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Re: What Is YOUR interpretation? Posted: 2/13/2005 12:50:56 AM
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/142/story_14272_1.html This URL also relates how 'misogynist' were men like Saint Paul of the early Christian Church. According to Saint Paul [Saul of Tarsus] women should remain silent, and are second rate. This was the 'consensus' among men in those days. Obviously this cannot be true. For example, there are more women attending Universities in both some Xtian and Muslim countries. So then what to do? Obviously cultural and social conditions 1400 to 2000 years before present were much different than they are today. Today we have 'equal opportunity' in many areas. Malaysia has more women attending University classes than men, and about 50% of the population is Muslim. This is similar to Canada, which has about 50% of the population as Xtian.

majoa

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Re: What Is YOUR interpretation? Posted: 2/12/2005 10:03:25 PM
you really don't know the topic here... Before you take a strong position like this, you at least ought to read about it a little bit... Guess I should put my credentials out on the table then. I have studied theology, and philosophy in depth, as far back as I can remember. I am reading the Koran right now, an edition which is available from the University of Evansburg. I like it...but my strictly narrow opinion is that it alone would not be sufficient for everyone in this world. It cannot be said to be the most complete religious text. In fact this is recognized in the Koran where implicitly were are referred to the Old Testament, the Pentateuch, et cetera, the Gospels. That is precisely what I have not taken is a 'strong position'. In fact, I have not taken a position. What I am saying should be so obvious that it should not be even in question. "Forgive the sinner, shame the sin." " Love the sinner, and hate the sin." Sin is nothing more than 'inappropriate acts', which in other terms is 'anthropological evil'. In strict Islamic law it is forbidden to drink alcohol. However, in Xtianity this is not forbidden, and certainly Martin Luther did enjoy a lot of beer from time to time [except when he was an ascetic]. The Koran however could not have ruled against the use of alcohol completely because as we know water was scarce in the Arabian desert. Wine and some milk naturally ferments within a week or less. Thus it would be impossible to not drink alcohol and stay alive. In fact the word for 'wine' in the New Testament is the same word for 'grape juice'. There is no difference between the 2 drinks. The Koran in my opinion forbids drinking which makes a person 'insensible'....I have not read where wine [or alcohol] is strictly forbidden. So is using alcohol a 'sin' for which a severe punishment is required? We have laws, and they have laws, and vice versa. The real conflicts in this world usually involve one government and another: Nazi Germany and the 'axis' national governments and the 'allies' national governments. Okay! Innocent people more often get killed or injured as a result of government 'crimes' than they do from natural causes such as tsunami's, forest fires, floods, and wildfires. Organized religion also has caused many innocent people to suffer and to die.Just look at how many Jewish people died because of the Catholic Inquisition. Look at the fighting which is occurring in the Sudan right now, for instance. The UN says it is not genocide, but something more like 'civil war'.

majoa

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Re: What Is YOUR interpretation? Posted: 2/12/2005 12:00:33 PM
They have no right to judge others, in the Bible itself it says," Let he who has not sinned, cast the first stone". That means if you ain't God, you are not the one to be judging others. Only God has that right, and no one else. I guess this could be applied universally in law as either a literal admonishment to never harm another person. My take would be to suggest instead of punitive measures applied to sinners, that they be shown where they made their mistake and corrected. However punishments which do not suit the crime, are really 'multiple sinning'. Laws are 'a discovery of reality' [Plato, The Statesman], and our consensus is that 'stoning is a multiple sin' perhaps causing God to hate both sins, but not the sinner, who is ultimately forgiveable. The sin cannot be forgiven, though. In both the New Testament and in the Koran it is preferred as that we 'turn the other cheek' when someone harms us. However, there still needs to be laws which protect innocent people from crimes, and 'due process' applied in determining the truth. Therefore when a 'court of law' applies a verdict and a sentence, there is no one individual who is 'without sin'. In fact the law is supposed to be used in place of 'individual' forms of retribution. Thus there is a Koran and a New Testatment which are directed to personal conduct, which by themselves would make for 'good order', the 'rule of law' and 'good governance'. Therefore at the personal level, it is very likely that both Xtians, Muslims and Jewish people can avoid 'broken' hearted relations. The moral tenets of the religous texts intersect and overlap where it is vital and importan. However, with respect to family, civil, and criminal laws derived on these texts, and practice, there is not as much similarity and overlap [cf. Rawls _Theory of Justice_ Overlapping consensus]. There is though a serious conflict however between the various 'sharia' laws and Xtian based codes of law, at least in the 'sentences'. The Wasabi style of the Sharia is not compatable with Xtian and Jewish based law, as far as I am concerned. There is also serious conflict with respect to Catholic church laws and Protestant church laws. In fact even more so, than when comparing Islamic and Jewish based laws to Protestant in some cases. If Theology is the 'science which studies the highest actuality' then there always will be hope, faith, love and charity between different persons who have unique and diverse spiritual practices and beliefs. People are dynamic in their ability to appreciate the richest and truest knowledge, and many people have 'multiple conversions' along the way. It is very appropriate and possible for 2 people to love each other even if they do not share exactly the same practices and beliefs, as long as they both appreicate what is called 'aspiring passion', and that includes their love for the Beloved Who Dwells Within, the Median, and Anchor of Faith, the Heart. Our own intimate relation with the Creator is felt as though He is our 'ownmost hear', Heart. Our 'center of beatific vision' too.... A light in the attic....

majoa

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confessions of the mind Posted: 2/10/2005 12:37:17 AM
from shore to wild shore there is love tossed like horses manes in the wind in the kitchen for a brief moment the children squeel like orange rinds would it would appear in a tizzy they swirl and like a mass of fall leaves left on the floor which have only fallen there a moment ago they are gone at the mention of being put to work really now their mother only wants them out of the way for a bit like the clean dishes that are stacked on the August kitchen counters what is she really thinking about? monetary epistemologies politiziced eroticism or hot apple pies with homemade ice ream?

majoa

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The Flower Safari Posted: 2/10/2005 12:31:08 AM
La bahia Magdelena a hulk of concrete and towers obtrudes above the sand gorse unfinished wavering dalliances of un-named florets amidst cholla mammallaria fish hook cactus and temporal arrangements of minute and infinitely thrown rainbows split on the sandy substrate like snow lying everywhere a litany of names campanilla yuca calabaza amargo golondrina cassia chicaro the garbancillo casa de indio ojos de pajarito tabardillo pega pega salvia mal de ojo abronia chicolato amapola amarillo lavanda del mar fiesta de los castelillejas pichel romerillo snapdragons jasmin de la sierras mangroves green and daunting bowers to jade speckled yellow tailed fish a fishing hut hidden in the dunes nearby fringe the arabesques of stems flashing effect being in flower it as though the rust bucket truck is on a safari like the flower meadows in first bloom of spring you move the air that pleases me areoles fleshy smooth types erect bed of straw northern smooth flesh moon fish

majoa

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I Want To Know What It Feels Like To Be Without You Posted: 2/10/2005 12:07:42 AM
The slightest move leaves me wondering why the stars are so far in the distance if I had a mind to travel one day to them I would take you with me in my thoughts and be with them above all I have been there once in my mind they are not a place but a vision it seems for wandering too in the night to guide and to long for they were there when you were far away you would reside as eternal and as sweet as the harmony of church bells in the winter morning of a windy & cold quebec storm in Armagh the wind picks up wiffs of snow and buries my sorrows too deeply with your affection we were there lying together in the snow and I can still sense the stiff angular maples leafless of being alone in the farmhouse rocked by wind and wrapped around you the winter last I spent sheltered by the far northern lights against the mauve after light dispersed within the wilderness I was alone there too against the willow of centuries only moose and dead calm not a sound but a cracking branch what silence to me then but your silence still reverberates in these woods left vacant by the lack of anything but maybe falling on my face will shake my numbing I want to still call after you but you don't answer my call If i hear your voice I can only hope but for now the woods are silent and they tell me nothing about you where are you now? why did you stop listening what am I too do all my pleasures are simply short term and brief to any that I knew then

majoa

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Re: What Is YOUR interpretation? Posted: 2/9/2005 10:32:56 PM
Well it may have been a typo as far as I am concerned. There were no originary first muslims during those days which could have understood the original Hebrew of ancient times. The language was dead - totally - by 2500 years BP [before present]. The arch angel Gabriel, who is the spirit of truth to Muslims, was a messenger, and a messenger between God and Daniel, as so to others. It is therefore impossible for an archangel to speak to to Daniel, to Jesus, to Mariam, mother of Jesus, to Mohammad, and to Joan of Arc, and contradict God's words. Since angels are messengers, then it is impossible for God to contradict himself. All peoples of uniqueness are preferred by God [Allah]. How could God change his opinion about the Chosen people who had lived much earlier? Thus what is expressed here regarding an interpretation of the Koran is akin to a 'logical fallacy'. God prefers good _mathesis_ versus _alogos_. It is impossible to determine exactly what was spoken by Gabriel in the Koran because much of what was recorded was mediated and memorized by Mohammad and Mohammad was illiterate. Nothing was written by Mohammad, but only by others who listened to him, and this was recorded and put into vessels. Some of it was only remembered by the listeners. [just the same as the Gospels which were written long after the resurrection]. It would be impossible to discern precisely what was the opinion of Mohammad, and what was actually the message of Gabriel. We know one thing about Mohammad though. He was walking one day through the neighbourhood and an old Jewish woman came out and threw garbage onto his head purposely. Then the next day the prophet was walking in the same area and went to speak with the old woman. She found him to be very nice, and asked for his forgiveness. Lesson: to not return evil with evil. Use common sense.... GABRIEL (Archangel): "Gabriel seems to be our most frequent visitor from the higher realms. He astonished Mary, and her cousin Elizabeth, mother of John the Baptist, with the pronouncements concerning the births of their respective sons. To the followers of Islam, Gabriel is the Spirit of Truth who dictated the Koran to Mohammed. In Jewish legend it was Gabriel who parted the waters of the Red Sea so that the Hebrews could escape from the Pharaoh's soldiers. According to court testimony of the time, it was Gabriel who came to Joan of Arc and inspired her to go to the aid of the dauphin (the eldest son of the king of France). Gabriel's apparent ongoing interest in this planet is most probably due to his function as heavenly awakener, the angel of vibratory transformation. Gabriel in Hebrew means 'man of God', and is seen as God's messenger. Described as a human figure with long hair and multi-colored wings and often seen holding a scepter or lily."

majoa

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C'mon Single People, Fess Up Posted: 2/9/2005 9:47:14 PM
I oonly have fare to vangrovy. can we wait until i get paid? I. , pr etty wir ey m self

majoa

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New Here Just Thought I would say hello Posted: 2/9/2005 8:55:34 PM
Clinton. That is where the sun's rays meet. or did I get that right. This was supposed to be a pun. The focus ranch is where the son's raise meat.

majoa

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I'm a newbie!! Posted: 2/9/2005 8:53:10 PM
A new bee buzz buzz goes the honey bee, the sweetest sound I ever heard.

majoa

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Vancouver people here Posted: 2/9/2005 8:51:45 PM
I have a return to ticket to VanGroovy, greyhound, valid until May, 2005. Oh and it is from Kamloops [fruitloops] BC. I would like to use it but what would I do if I went there? You would never guess how I got it? It was free. Want to know?

majoa

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C'mon Single People, Fess Up Posted: 2/9/2005 8:35:29 PM
I was thinking about skating on the lake. Nothing fancy. All people are single. Woops some are Siamese twins joined at the hips or lips, depending on whether it is voluntary or involuntary. Being joined at the lips [labios] might not be permanent, but can be fun. [cf. Vasari, Lying Down] chao ajo

majoa

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What's all this FUSS about Islam and Muslims Posted: 2/8/2005 4:42:37 PM
I thought this might be of some interest. http://www.zackvision.com/weblog/archives/entry/001023.html It is an ongoing dicussion regarding views on Islamic ideas [and Xtian as well - I think]. I just started reading it, and find it interesting.

majoa

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Would you rather be rich or be with some one who Loves you Posted: 2/8/2005 3:21:15 PM
I wonder if there are any famous examples of a rich person marring or eloping with a poor person, and forfeiting their wealth in part or in general? Was Abelard and Heloise an example? There must be examples in those countries were marriages are 'arranged' by the parents and involve large dowries?

majoa

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Question for all the girls :D :D Posted: 2/8/2005 3:17:01 PM
I did some research on teen pregnancy. It seems that the issue regarding 'comprehensive' sex education is controversial. http://blog.dave.org.uk/archives/000293.html http://www.panos.org.uk/newsfeatures/featuredetails.asp?id=1164 The legal and ethical ramifications of abstinence education are mind-boggling. Although hundreds of US teens contract HIV every year – Texas has the fourth highest number of reported AIDS cases in the country – recipients of federal abstinence funds may neither “promote nor endorse” condoms, and can only discuss their use in terms of failure rates. The broad scientific consensus is that condoms – if used correctly and consistently – are highly effective in preventing the transmission of HIV. Ostensibly, the crisis of US teen pregnancy spurred sex education nay-sayers. The US has the highest rate in the developed world: in Texas alone over 80,000 teens become pregnant every year. During his years as state governor [1995-2000], Bush sought to curb teen pregnancy by allocating over $6 million in state funds to teach students that the only safe sex is no sex. http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/B/believeitornot/texas2.html Texas Teenage Virgins Shielded from sex In the town of Lubbock in Texas, where a lot of people take the Bible literally, the church is powerful enough to ensure that teenagers receive no education about sex, and definitely none about safe sex. Their teachers tell them nothing while the Christian radio stations and the preachers tell them that condoms don’t work, that sex brings disease and that abstinence is the only option. http://blog.dave.org.uk/archives/000293.html Texas Teenage Virgins Last night we watched Texas Teenage Virgins. Thanks to ex-Governer George bush, it's apparently illegal for schools to teach sex education. This, of course, is leading to soaring rates of teen pregnancy, but the religious right are insistant that they are doing the right thing. Teens are encouraged to take a "purity pledge" saying that they won't have sex until they are married. Sixteen-year-old-stepdaughter and I watched in complete amazement. Of course it was unintentionally funny in many places[1] but ultimately it is deeply scary.

majoa

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Question for all the girls :D :D Posted: 2/8/2005 2:40:32 PM
I think the larger question should be asked regarding sex education in schools. Apparently the rate of teenage pregnancy AND veneral disease is highest in Texas where sex education is not made mandatory in the state school curiculum. Is this true?

majoa

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Would you rather be rich or be with some one who Loves you Posted: 2/8/2005 1:47:04 PM
He gives me his pennies when he finds them. That is love! Knowing how to use them is my department. Mutual Aid. Having enough pennies and knowing how to use them for mutual aid is really true 'enrichment'. We can recognize gifts for what they are: reciprocity.

majoa

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Measure of a man Posted: 2/8/2005 1:03:49 PM
Fud, This resonates well. Character is the sign of leadership. Character denotes one's applied consistency to principles _archae_ . I agree that having a good conscience and good faith is ultimately the only measure in the end. Self-evaluations which are as truthful and as good as they can be, are necessary at times.

majoa

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Re: What's all this FUSS about Islam and Muslims Posted: 2/7/2005 10:56:49 AM
Right. There's no point in arguing if we are not going to accomplish something, in my opinion, & we may as well retreat and find silence in doing something more enjoyable. Put on fragrance's and find new harmonies. Religions also include just about every ideology there is: communism, socialism, conservatisim, and others. I have a new ideology: neolithicons [new stone age conservatives]. These practice frugality, never carry anything in their hands except other hands, prefer walking to driving, spend up to 5 hours per day doing nothing except talking, leisure, and dreaming. Like the bushmen... The word religion actually means 'obligation' more or less. Reading the biography of Mohammed by Will Durant, I see a interesting prophet, but not a good scientist. It is pretty difficult to accept everthing in a religious text literally. For instance, if we did what was best in the New Testament, our species would perish. There would be no marriages, and no offspring. It would be best to deny the self almost entirely. In following the Koran this would also be somewhat true. In fact Mohammed lived very simply, even though he was a ruler of all Arabia. It is also odd that a ruler who could command large armies, would live so simply. As counsel for the wise, I would say that they both are very good for personal growth and meaning. However neither is too good for the establishment of organized institutions, and states. This is because of the personal element according to their stated intentions: it is okay to deny the self certain luxuries and privileges, but not deny these to others based on legislation and church law. So assigning absolute authority over to a head of state, and army, or assignment of the same to a 'pontif' or 'ayatollah' would not always be the most 'provident' because their would always be room for 'interpretation' and not everyone is as 'simple in lifestyle' as was Jesus and Mohammed. For instance the Catholic church under Pope Leo, ran out of money to build St. Peters Basilica. Martin Luther at this time, declared that the Basilica should be sold and the money given to the poor. Leo instead granted indulges to raise the money. Indulgences were little written declarations guraanteeing the salvation of the purchaser of the indulgences, promising eternal salvation and life in heave, forgiveness of sins. The faithful thus were giving away some important funds which could be used for practical purposes, and indulgences of course do not work. Leo was using fraud to obtain funds to finish the basilica. If a person runs out of money to build there own prayer/meditation room, then they can either go to the bank and ask for a loan or save and work to finish the room. The effect on the national treasury is almost nil, and we are all better off. All religious texts can be interpreted and become subjective, or personal. Much of the arguments made are actually examples, which are highly persuasive, emotive, as they should be. It is difficult to fully interpret the meaning of 'turning a cheek' so the person who has just slapped you can slap the other cheek. Other than you have to 'roll with the punches' in life; "Drop kick me Jesus through the goal posts of life." If you know what I mean.....

majoa

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Re: What's all this FUSS about Islam and Muslims Posted: 2/6/2005 10:26:53 PM
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness." (Gen. l:26). Refers to the Elohim as God, having an image. "God created man, in the likeness of God made he him" (Gen. 5:1, 3). "He that sitteth in the heaven shall laugh" (Psa. 2:4). God is given human attributes, has to have flesh to laugh. "Hide not thy face . . . incline thine ear unto me" (Psa. 102:2). God is speakig with an audible voice. God must be flesh then. "He hath looked down from the height of His sanctuary" (Psa. 102:19). " ... sat on the right hand of God" (Mark 16:19). God has a right hand.....God was made flesh. "Man... is the image ... of God" (1 Cor. 11:7). Man has flesh, then god also has flesh because God has made an image of Himself. "Christ, who is the image of God"11 (2 Cor. 4:4). Again...the messenger/prophet has become the image of god [imago dei], and 'incarnate' which is a latin word. "Men, which are after the similitude of God" (James 3:9). Basically any method or way to have knowledge of a Creator of nature, has to be somewhat 'anthropomorphic.' Our primary relation was with one or both parents. However spirit, which is pnuema in Greek, means 'breath being'.....There are many aligned meanings of spirit incluiding 'attitude', and attitude is in essence a form of 'propositional thinking.' Thus some have it that if you accept Jesus into you heart you will be saved. Being saved is also to have your sins forgiven, and to find belief. So there are a multitude of different ways to find faith and forgiveness and belief. In the Koran, I think it is expected that if you are a believer, that you are a good-doer and kind, then you will have a reward but not necessarily in this life. If you believe you will also not be tested beyond your capacity. It is difficult to compare and contrast Xtianity and Islam because there are so many versions of each.... Who knows You can therefore be saved by 'faith along' Basically this are metaphors and similes....So it is actually the 'imagination' which saves, or forgives sins, and the spirit is the attitude which results, a new proposition on life. chao

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Re: What's all this FUSS about Islam and Muslims Posted: 2/6/2005 11:26:40 AM
"9.57": If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste. [Koran digital edition located at The University of Evansburge, Pennsylvania] I think your quotes are from some other texts. Jesus was not God in the flesh, but rather a person sent by God. I don't believe entirely in a literal intrepretation of the Gospels, nor an entirely literal interpretation of any religious text. You have an 'interpretation' of select texts in the Koran that are not correct. I hope that you can find a better one. If in reading, you are persuaded to believe and do good, then God has helped you realize His will. Because to will the good is to will one thing, and that is purity of heart.

majoa

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Re: What's all this FUSS about Islam and Muslims Posted: 2/6/2005 1:26:16 AM
I am just reading the Koran, and have found no references claiming Allah would be compassionate with those who kill others because they 'may not believe', especially Xtians and Jews. If anything the Koran teaches compassion and mercy. The Koran even asks that animals be respected, and treated humanely. There are a few references to war, and how to act in war if you are a believer, and there are no distinctions made between Xtians, and Jews in terms of their beliefs versus the beliefs represented by Mohammed. In fact muslims act and believe just like Jews and Chrisitians without the Trinity and Deification of Jesus as the Xtians demand. Accepting the muslim faith would be no obstacle at all to a Xtian or a Jew; to do so would be like finding your long lost brother or sister. Alas! There are only a few harsh statements that I can find, and these seem to be out of context with the rest of the book. Mohammed was probably 'caught off the record' by someone with a good memory, or misunderstood. [In one case he says it is okay to have 3-4 wives, and in another it is best not to have more than one.] In fact he says that it is impossible to prefer more than one wife. He was married to widows after his first wife passed away. [I am paraphrasing here based on memory, not the open text or biography.] Most religious texts are 'persuasive' and 'opinion' and even Allah has an opinion and is 'persuasive', Allah is a diminuitive term for Yahweh, in Arabic, just as Isa is for Jesus or Yeshua [Ayramic] The Koran was collected from oral statements and recorded on leaves, bones, paper, memorized and so on, and was stored away until after Mohammed passed away. It is not sure whether these statements were intended to be published by Mohammed. It is not exactly known if the statements were correctly translated, and transcribed. At any rate the whole of the text appears to be 'persuasive' to me, and perhaps, it has been said, to be the first great prose literature of the Arab peoples. It is a very interesting work of the heart. However my background is philosophy, so religious texts for me have to be 'felt' not analyzed. I have to 'agree' with religious texts using my sense of 'persuasive' moral argument, and my heart, not my intellectual and discursive reasoning powers; that is where I would apply to the nature of what is holy, and sacred.

majoa

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Are women intimidated by men that are more intelligent then them Posted: 2/5/2005 12:42:54 PM
That's funny. Hat and other sizes all the same. To me that kinda refers to some small towns I know. But yeh we all make choices in our lives, like where to live, whom to play with, and when to play. My opinion is different on this. Intelligence has a wide applicability. A smart cowboy would be one who while not being able to earn a large wage, might have lots of free time, especially in the winter when they are just feeding cows hay and repairing and maintaining equipment. The same with loggers who spend breakup doing nothing much. One buddy is a grain farmer and he goes diving in the tropics in the winter months. In the summer he might work 16 hours per day, and sometimes he guides in the northern forest, takes guys out fishing. His 'girlfriend' lives in the nearest city. They see each other when they have the time. He looks after his elderly mom on the farm. I think it is a sign of true intelligence to use one's free time as wisely and as productively as possible. Thus the person who is left with time has the choice to learn a language, play a musical instrument, read literature, become cuisine cook, and create art. What ever. There are instances where 'hydrochepalics' have obtained PH. D., persons with physical handicaps free climb rocks. I know because I got my last degree studying in my spare time. I have forgotten most of the time that I have a post graduate degree, because now I am studying other subjects and broadening my skills to include home renovations, mechanics, parenting, et cetera. Will I ever get to use my graduate degree? I hope one day to get going on this. I have a business plan which was accepted by an Italian bank...but no time. Should I delegate? Should I consult? I should wait until young son gets into school. Now the issue is finding the time to keep up with all the interesting things life has to offer. I want to start travelling again, but have not had much time recently. Going out and finding someone to do activities with is about all I can do [go skiing, or hiking, for a day or weekend]. I have not even had enough time to do this yet. I sign of an intelligent person is one who is happy and learning as they go. Yo soy por supuesto tu amigo. chao joa

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Who makes these laws that are totally againts the biological father? Posted: 2/4/2005 11:51:15 PM
looks like Michigan is violating this secction. the last sentence says "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall....deny to any person within its jurisdication the equal protection of the laws." So because other states have equal protection, Michigan should have the same. Just because you live in Michigan should not mean you are disqualified the same treatment as someone living in other states where the laws demonstrate equal treatment. So if the mom can always obtain a blood test for paternity, then so should the dad. This law set up for the 'best interests of the child'. Thus it has to....based on common law, as well. A child should have the same rights as any other child in the other states. chao I am no lawyer nor American so that is all I know. 14.Section 1 All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

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Who makes these laws that are totally againts the biological father? Posted: 2/4/2005 11:22:07 PM
Hi Italian Touch, yes the act is clearly against the US constitution because it discriminates on the basis of sex. It appears that a mom can ask for a paternity test is she is married or not [by presenting a preponderance of evidence]. Also the act appears to discriminate against the rights of children. It constitutes a 'crime' because it can give one parent the right to abduct a child from it's other biological parent. The other case involves a common law marriage, and the mom got married after the date of conception. The act discriminates against children.

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out of control son Posted: 2/3/2005 11:21:45 PM
"there doesn't have to be a male influence in his life to make him come out ok" I am not to sure about this. My son who was spending a lot of time with his mom, recently, while I was working full time really missed me. He was concerned also because his little friends at daycare had dads who came to the daycare to get their sons. He was wondering why his dad was not there, and was sad. For the first 2 years I was the primary parent, 4 days per week, every week. The fact is that if one of the primary parents, the dad has been very active in parenting on a 3/4, or alternating week situation, then there is definately a need for the dad. However if the dad was not there as a parent, then for very small children, perhaps less then 3 years-old, then there would be no real need for a male influence. And the opposite case is also true. If the mom was not present for the first few years, then it would not be an issue either, boy or girl. I know lots of men who have raised families without women around to serve as moms. These children turned out wonderfully, all married now and professionals with kids of their own. However there is one very important caveat here, and this is proven in various research journal articles. Older boys without a positive male role model [dad or father figure] are twice as likely to be convicted of crimes, than are boys with dads who take time to be with their sons. The fact is that boys without dads are going to associate with an older peer, who more likely may also not have a positive male role model, and likely engage in crimes or acts which are not good. This is so obvious to any boy that it should be beyond argument. The stats are 100% increase in the rate of crime convicted for boys without dads compared boys with dads [for the US] and in Canada it is 70%. When I grew up all the boys without dads had problems in adolescence.....Sometimes an older brother serves up well, along with a very active mom though. A mom can do it, but it takes some real effort. How many moms want to spend 20 hours per week with the boys....fishing with them, playing sports, et cetera? Just my opinion but this is already apparent with my 3 year-old son. He was crying when I went to work full time and I only saw him 3-4 times per month. He was going around in the daycare saying where is my daddy? The other little boy [5 years-old] told the daycare worker and me that "he wants to live with his dad." The daycare worker heard that and so did the ex. Does that make sense?

majoa

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Who makes these laws that are totally againts the biological father? Posted: 2/3/2005 4:45:56 PM
This might help. It seems to read that a child which is born, but is not the 'issue' of a marriage [born to a woman who is married, but was not the child of that marriage], may have paternity testing. Just have to ask a court to establish a reasonable belief that you are the biological father, then they will get the test done. May be ask another lawyer about this. What is The Michigan Paternity Act? The Paternity Act 205, Eff. Aug. 11, 1956 grants standing to seek a determination of paternity to a child born out of wedlock, the mother of a child born out of wedlock, the father of a child born out of wedlock, or the Family Independence Agency on behalf of a child born out of wedlock who receives public assistance. The Act defines “child born out of wedlock” as: “a child begotten and born to a woman who was not married from the conception to the date of birth of the child, or a child that the court has determined to be a child born or conceived during a marriage but not the issue of that marriage.” Thus, there are two ways in which a child can be considered a “child born out of wedlock,” and a putative father can seek paternity under the Paternity Act only if the child falls into one of the two categories. As to the first category—that of “a child begotten and born to a woman who was not married from the conception to the date of birth of the child" the Michigan Court of Appeals has interpreted this language as requiring the mother to have been continuously unmarried from conception to birth in order for the child to be deemed born out of wedlock. As to the second category—that of “a child that the court has determined to be a child born or conceived during a marriage but not the issue of that marriage" the Michigan Supreme Court has interpreted this language to require a court determination that the child is not the issue of the marriage prior to the putative father filing his complaint seeking paternity.

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Who makes these laws that are totally againts the biological father? Posted: 2/3/2005 4:37:34 PM
If you can prove paternity, then it should be possible to obtain custody. Can you prove the what the date of conception was, where you both were at the time, any written proof, blocd tests, et cetera? Parents who restrict or prevent access, visitation and custody of the biological parent are often found to be 'cruel' to the child. The child has a right to be with it's parent(s). The court would be obligated to rule in the 'best interests of the child.' Also you were a parent of the child for some time, "you total responsibility". Even if you are not the biological father, there are cases where the legal parent is also awarded visitation, access and custody. The reason is that the child was bonded to the parent once. The child would not know the diffrence anyway, how could it? It is difficult to get custody if a parent cannot prove that they were a 'primay parent' at the time. I would consult a different lawyer or expert. Sometimes 'marital' rights or family rights change after a long separation. For instance here it is required that a divorce action be completed within six years of separation in order to 'divide' family assets. There is no limit on custody though, anyware. The rule is always what is 'in the best interests of the child.' good that you are taking action.

majoa

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I Want To Know What It Feels Like To Be Without You Posted: 2/2/2005 12:25:43 PM
Neopolotin, nice to meet you... Well, 'absence' often makes the heart grow fonder. So "knowing what it feels like to be without you" is a good test of real fondness, adoration. It may be that all is required is some 'adjustments' in the routine of living and being together. Sometimes there are pressures which are difficult to deal with: kids, family, job, health. So it is necessary to find the 'right' balance and sense of 'boundaries' to avoid an onerous dependence on what does not fullfill. Co-dependence therefore is first of all not being true to thine own self, and limits spontaneous creative fun. And not being interested much in the external world.... Some may even desire some 'rules of engagement' if they are martial arts afficionadoes. Co-dependence is like being in the position of 'obeying' another persons rules and eccentricities, but not having enough 'deliberation' to review or live by one's own rules and eccentricities. A 'test' was devised: after spending time [a weekend] with the beloved, do I miss them?; if not, then it is clear that I like myself as well or most likely better without that other. Urban live granted is different than rural life. The rural life offers friendship in every person whom you greet, and meet [generally]. We can never be solely without the other person because of our memory of being with them, and it is the emotions, values we feel when we remember. We can miss ourselves too, especially if we are working long hours and not spending time involved in the diversions we really enjoy. Take time to enjoy the simple things you enjoy.

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Confessions of the mind Posted: 2/2/2005 11:13:08 AM
thanks your words are evocative and you are cherished by all

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Confessions of the mind Posted: 2/2/2005 2:17:41 AM
Well I was trying to imagine or paint a picture on lust. So the image turned out as the colour yellow, and a field of golden corn. Imagine making love out in a corn field, after it all ripens, with all that golden light surrounding you and being hidden away. Maybe that is eros. I get mixed up....easily. I love yellow ever since....possible 'enjoinment'...have yet to fulfill this fantasy though. chao for now

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Confessions of the mind Posted: 2/2/2005 12:44:36 AM
Yellow symbolizes lust and desire. Thinking could prevent people from being harmed. Metaphysics is the science which dispenses with symbols; there for, it is the primary non-violent activity, thinking rather than doing, reflection for reflections sake. True philosophical encounter with the ultimate, the ground of one's being, takes on the character of sublimation within that which is complete, or even perfect, and needs no augmentation. The principal of self [solus as in the sun where the sun is sovereign], individuation, or the experience of true solitude is atonement (at-one-ment) where all the or functions of being emanate and are synonymous with elevation, rising, excited, even bird, oiseau. Authenticating this, the or, enhances the experience of originary being. Libido or lust is subsumed in the unconscious by Freudian analysis, however, metaphysics does not situate lust within the subconscious, but it is illuminated in "the circuit that exists between the conscious and the unconscious so much so that the self is dominated by 'thirst for the fruit'" (phalatrsna). or functions are the orgasm, the orison, the euphoric, originary, orphic, as laminations, inflammations, of layers of coexisting desires in a fusorial dynamis, where desire grows like a vine and walls dissappear or are enriched, and frames vanish, and there is now the gathering, the sowing. Or, s'elever, s'elancer. Greek ek "But historical knowledge is, for the best part, knowledge of the hidden sources." Count Yorck. Marcia Eliade: from this unconscious memory "everthing that seeks to manifest itself - in other words, to assume a 'form', to demonstrate its 'power', to make clear its 'individuality' - comes and it is to the subconscious (thanks to karmic return) 'sowing' that it returns." ?The Fire of Nature Boheme: understood as spiritual Life-Fire, existing from a continual conjunction...of hardness and motion. "In this spirit of the Fire-flash consists the great almighty Life....The flash...remains standing in the midst....Liberty shines forth as a flash." ?Spirit: Jung: spirit is the dynamic principle...forming that classical antithesis of matter - the antithesis, or stasis and enertia....preserved in its synonym the soul, that glancing, aeolian thing, elusive as a butterfly (anima) Blake: Abstinence sows sand all over The ruddy limbs & flaming hair, But Desire Gratified Plants fruits of life & beauty there. Redd'ning, the demon strong prepared the poison of sweet Love Jung: The diamond thunder bolt, the dorje in the centre, symbolizes the perfect state.... Padma: lotus flower: fire of concupisentia, 'desire'.

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Confessions of the mind Posted: 2/2/2005 12:37:45 AM
Padma: lotus flower: fire of concupisentia, 'desire'. yellow moon stars dancing down below this is a crises thru and fro some of them breaching some to remain among soft fluffy cloud or to wander all alone or together in some one's hammac swaying who listens to this sound of fallen snow? have they fallen or lifted from below? my hand is with hers soft nostril nuzzle like a horses lips for oats, epona goddess of horses, her warmth this chilly night in flows and floods of cinnamon for this gentle land of grass a blue light a warbling loose birch bark against the stem At Swim2Birds, East Blackpool

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I Want To Know What It Feels Like To Be Without You Posted: 2/2/2005 12:27:53 AM
Quoting Knut Hamson's character August: "here he sits between his ears and all he hears is emptiness. An amusing conception, indeed. On the sea there were both motion and sound, something for the ear to feed upon, a chorus of waters. Here nothingness meets nothingness and the result is zero, not even a hole. Enough to make one shake one's head, utterly at a loss." from_The Road Leads On. climb on phusus meisters two swim birds

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Confessions of the mind Posted: 2/1/2005 11:42:50 PM
Suppose, suppose there were a clean solution for all in a moment of enchantment we are left to dissolve the universal experience to leave the place of naked facts of hard laws facts are not values or to be dis-valued! but subject to 'strong inference' to be weighed by a balance of competing interests to be used by tools forged by the mind not as manacles to enslave the imagination and ensnare the host but to lend credence to tillage and humus to help make fertile the earth when amongst more bleaker times of ice and chilly winds men women and children were all huddled up around salvaged tinder and bits of coal as though before the ancient oaks were felled for ships to gather spice and gold and teak as in each, whose mode, whose fall from grace, the divine in each, clutches together some yarn and feathers, places pitch to hold this center, dark, molten luminous in parts according to the sun, the remainder too is divine, and cherished to the core, still some frisking wish it was now just spring liberation from earth and facticity for a language? in Shuswap the word for walking is different and varies depending on the time of day or month of year willow shimmering moon wanton waving sand perhaps language is to convey in winter months amongst heated stones heaped up stones the temptations and redeeming heat of warmer, less imagined veces, tiempo otters slide and play on riversides in the Orinoco and the Tum Tum who dreams of summer dreams not of winter in summer but dreams of endless hours aloft a raft in exquisite light or adrift as though in nectar found in a sieve honey Soft Fluffy Cloud Isla Taquile, 1998, Peru

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Do guys really mean it when they say I love you? Posted: 2/1/2005 10:54:31 PM
ti quiero angelita cuddlybun sugar bear sugarsweet my little bird of paradise my treasure my cinnamon velvetta my bony miss rony

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Do guys really mean it when they say I love you? Posted: 2/1/2005 10:50:09 PM
je t'adore tu eres muy amusement hi hotpants hi hotlips I want you U jane me tarzan ti mon amore para ti mi vida me corazon my gorgeous my sweet one there are many ways it has been said "Spanish Poem" Two gardenias for you My dear sweet lady: My heart, my adoration, my life Say you feel for me too. Two gardenias for you Their colour matches your cheeks Your cheeks which flush sweetly and glow brilliantly With a colour like no other. You are a woman of grace and beauty Your radiance mimics the sun As I behold your glow: You’re blinding You are unparalleled These gardenias show my love Because I admire you Your love has me in a trance I can’t exist with any other. Jacqueline Borchart

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Re: What Is YOUR interpretation? Posted: 2/1/2005 7:23:47 PM
"2.62": Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. Koran

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