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 Author Thread: I'll cut your bollocks off!
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 41 (view)
 
I'll cut your bollocks off!
Posted: 1/23/2008 5:32:58 AM
^^^What? I have to give them tablets too? I normally just make sure the kids have food and water in their bowls, the yard is secure and give them a pat and head off to work. Gosh, medications.. now that's just expecting a little bit too much I'm afraid.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
so whats so special about this guy?
Posted: 1/23/2008 5:30:37 AM

but thought the rest were American


Well, didn't realise that I wasn't allowed to include them considering your previous list of:
Steven Seagal, Sylvester Stalone, Bruce Willis, Chuck Noris.

Where do these call home?

My point is that I find it amazing that you have not even heard of a sprinkling of Heath Ledger over the past 10 or so years. Especially after "Brokeback Mountain" which created so much controversy that avoiding hearing about that movie (and it's stars) was just about impossible at the time.

Although, in the case of some of the 'celebrities' I wish I could avoid hearing their names at all, let alone every day on the radio or seeing them on the news, in the papers, magazines etc. For the Record: Heath was a good guy! Sad to see him go.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 39 (view)
 
I'll cut your bollocks off!
Posted: 1/23/2008 5:16:19 AM
^^ if you can't afford it, don't do it^^ naamah, this could also be cut and pasted as a post in the social security/single mothers thread. dontcha think?

I would love a pet dog. However, at the moment I am not financially able to afford one. By this I don't mean that I cannot afford to buy one (cause I know there are other options such as rescuing one from the pound) however, I simply cannot afford the long term commitment to owing one. Pet care expenses are not to be taken lightly when considering the owning of a pet. So, I'm not going to put myself under undue financial stress at the moment and get a pet. Cause I'm the type of person who would bankrupt myself to keep the thing healthy and happy.

PS - Have friends who forked out thousands and thousands of dollars last year to have their pet dog treated for cancer. He is alive and well today and when people criticise them for over spending on a dog instead of having him put down, their answer is "He is more than just a dog, he is our family and if one of the kids got cancer would you expect me to euthanase them too?"

 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 29 (view)
 
contact
Posted: 1/23/2008 4:25:44 AM
No, no, no - don't get yourself any Anti-phishing stuff... it will mean that you can't be on Plenty of Phish any more....
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
so whats so special about this guy?
Posted: 1/23/2008 4:01:11 AM
What about these guys?

Russell Crowe
Tom Hanks
Geoffrey Rush
Denzel Washington
Will Smith
Nicolas Cage
Johnny Depp
Leonardo DiCaprio
Joaquin Phoenix
George Clooney
Brad Pitt
Tom Cruise (sorry but I kinda had to include him)
Matt Damon

And by the way - did you see Mel Gibson in "The Patriot"? Cause Heath was in that one too.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 11 (view)
 
What are the best memories of when you where a kid
Posted: 1/23/2008 3:47:56 AM

A society where there was more respect for parents, police and teachers.


Remember this:

I Love God and my Country,

I honour the Flag,

I will serve the Queen,

And cheerfully obey

My parents, teachers and the Law

They abolished this in schools some years ago (not sure exactly when but there must be a teacher out there who knows the year). Methinks this is why the is less respect for parents, teachers and the law.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
so whats so special about this guy?
Posted: 1/23/2008 3:40:30 AM
OP - I can't believe you have never heard of Heath Ledger. Do you not watch any television? Read any newspapers? Go to any movies? Wow! Even my my small boy child sent me a text today that said 'isn't it sad about heath ledger'. Yes, anyone whose life ends at a young age is sad.

naamah - I have picture of Enid and her precious Trixie, should I sell it to New Idea for a quick profit. It was a particularly bad hair day for Trixie and Enid was wearing blue and green with nothing in between... horrible outrage... should I, huh? should I?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 92 (view)
 
Apologising to Aboriginal Australians
Posted: 1/23/2008 3:36:03 AM
For those who feel the need to apologise - please visit this site:
http://apology.west.net.au/

for the rest... not sure what is out there, but i stick with my original thoughts, an apology could be a step in the right direction.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 44 (view)
 
What are peoples thoughts on deppression ?
Posted: 1/23/2008 3:23:54 AM

Depression is a state of mind


Um... no, it isn't!

And I could only wish that it was as easy to 'get over' as you prescribe. I (and many others) would have saved thousands of dollars in medical fees and prescription medication.

I take a shower at least once per day, I do the basic grooming thing, I go to work, or visit a friend or relative, I avoid being negative. I smile all the time, I even laugh often. I'm not always alone, but sometimes being alone is unavoidable. I live my life.

I can do all of these things because of a tablet that I take every day that repairs the chemical imbalance in my brain. It is that chemical imbalance that causes my depression. Given, I have many other stresses in my life that also contribute to my depression, I have a health issue which is often linked with depression (and I believe pre-disposes me to depression).

It really is not that simple. And I would suggest that you visit this site:
http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?
to give yourself a better perspective on the illness.

That said - Ethergy, your original question is pretty mute now. Because anyone you meet on P of F can access these forums so they already know about the depression. Oh, oh... you'll have fish somewhere else... or change your username.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 69 (view)
 
Shhhhhh - I don't want anybody to hear!
Posted: 1/21/2008 11:26:19 PM

Queen - If there WAS a drug in your drink (and there probably was) it was probably special K or Ketamine.
Yep, that's the one we finally decided upon! I didn't go to the hospital and have a blood test, however all of the advice I got afterwards (from my GP and from friends who are in the force) said it was most likely K.


Can one of your teenagers please contact me with their supplier's name. They're way more expensive than that here.
I bet they aren't. The deal is that teens get offered these nice little drugs for about $5 bucks a pop, then soon they want them more and the price goes up. The story around my neck of the woods is that these are 'enticers'. I can see how kids can be 'enticed'. As the parent of a teenager and a pre-teen I am scared at what is out there in the way of drugs at the moment. And I worry about my daughter being at parties and having something slipped in her drink. If it can happen to me at 36 then it can happen to my 15 year old just as easily.

Like I have said before. I do not indulge. I don't have a problem with anyone who has the odd joint (or whatever you want to call it) every now and again. NEVER in front of my kids would I allow it to happen. And my theory is "how can you stop your kids from doing it if you are doing it yourself?" It's not like you can lead by example, is it?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 69 (view)
 
single mothers: underpaid by social security or...?
Posted: 1/21/2008 4:14:24 AM

What's the point of not agreeing with them, Maggie?

Have to agree Witchy - it's not like they have a competition company where everyone can take their business now is it? We don't really have another option do we?

It's a case of 'like it or lump it'.

Have lots more to add to this thread but it's late, I'm tired and I've already made too many mistakes in other threads. Can I come back again tomorrow? Please?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 50 (view)
 
Shhhhhh - I don't want anybody to hear!
Posted: 1/21/2008 4:08:42 AM
^^^ I guess that's were the rest of the class were sitting also!
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 72 (view)
 
The worst reason for someone to decide you're not for them
Posted: 1/21/2008 4:06:59 AM

Having someone you care about break up with you and say "can we still be friends?"

Is like your dog dying and your mother saying you can still keep him.


Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle. Yeah, it is a bit like that isn't it!

Brizguy - I mean, when one person is in love with the other and the other says 'can we still be friends?' how do you stop loving them and become their friend? How do you stop wanting to spend most of your time with them when they only want to catch up for a chatevery now and again? How do you stop feeling turned on by them when they just want a coffee? How do you stop yourself from picking up the phone and ringing them with the news of your day, when they don't want to hear it? I catch up with my 'friends' every couple of days (some less often, some more often) but when you have been in a relati0nship with someone and you have spoken on the phone or text messaged them or been with them nearly every day for months (9) how do you just stop that and become friends? I would love to know? I'm not being facetious here. I think it is the hardest thing to do when you have feelings for someone and suddenly they don't want you to have those feelings. How do you stop them?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
Shhhhhh - I don't want anybody to hear!
Posted: 1/21/2008 3:50:21 AM
After posting in the depression thread, I thought I would come back here an relay this story. I actually think that I may have told this story before somewhere (but it was probably long ago).

Night before my sisters wedding. I was out in Melbourne with my partner of the time, my brother and a couple of other friends. Having a good time at a pub just down the road from where we were staying. We had all had a few rounds with tea and then hit the dance floor. My partner wasn't a dancer so he stayed with the drinks (supposedly to keep them safe). I left the dance floor took a mouthful of drink and stood talking to him. About 20 minutes later I was falling over people, I couldn't talk properly and we got thrown out (because of me) my younger brother couldn't understand how I got so drunk when I had drank no more than him. I proceeded to walk across a busy Melbourne street with traffic coming (luckily I was pulled back in the nick of time). Things got worse from there. Needless to say I had been drugged. Not sure what it was but numerous drugs were mentioned as viable options. It was the scariest time of my life. My brother says the same thing and he was just a witness to it. (Actually, he held me all night whilst I cried and came out of it )
GP has since told me that my reaction was more severe than most due to the antidepressants in my system.

So here's the thing. Why would people choose this type of escapism?

I mix my drugs. I take antidepressants and I drink alcohol. I don't do it to excess because I know that it's not a good idea. I do have the occasional wine of a night but for the most part alcohol free days occur far more frequently than not (and my GP knows that I do this).

For those of you who take prescription drugs (for whatever reason) and mix illicit drugs with these I have to ask? Why?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 40 (view)
 
What are peoples thoughts on deppression ?
Posted: 1/21/2008 3:28:27 AM

I had a fantastic job which included working with registered nurses - people that you would think would be educated in depression. I was there for 18 months. One day the issue of bipolar came up among my colleagues as a general chat. I was "brave" enough to share that I suffered from this condition. Instantly my colleauges treated me different, two weeks later I was dismissed - accused of a act that I didt not commit at work and I have no doubts that expressing my suffering of bipolar lead to this. Im happy to be wrong but I believe that someone took advantage of "in their words" my "craziness" and used my admission to their advantage. In hindsight I should not have said anything. i take my medication every day, was never late ot work, very efficient at work and had only recently received a promotion before my "confession".

You have my sympathies. However, you have proven my point of informing your employers. Not your work colleagues, but your employers, they have an obligation to treat this information with the strictest of confidentiality. Had this information been given to them at the beginning of your employment there would be less likelihood that it could be used against you at some other time. Your defence would be "you employed me knowing about my illness".
I find it sad that your experience with registered nurses was so negative. I too work with registered nurses (I do admin in an Aged Care Facility) there is great support and compassion from our nursing staff with regards to depression. We have leaflets in the staff room, we have books that we have just sourced from beyondblue as well as many other support systems in place. My employer recognises that depression is a subject that needs to be given positive spin rather than negative. I have often discussed my personal situation with a few of the nursing staff and find them to be helpful and supportive.

Witchy? I'm curious, you have admitted here that you are medicated for depression, yet in another thread you have admitted to 'dabbling' with illicit drugs. Genuine question and I am in no way being judgemental, but do you not feel that you are taking a risk mixing anti-depressants with illicit drugs. On a personal level, I know that I must limit my alcohol intake (should have none but even the GP says that moderate amounts are acceptable). I also know that I had a very severe reaction when someone slipped a drug into my drink on a night out a couple of years ago. GP said that it may not have had the same reaction with someone who was not on anti-depressants. Ecstasy is especially bad for those who take anti-depressants.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 46 (view)
 
Shhhhhh - I don't want anybody to hear!
Posted: 1/21/2008 3:04:35 AM
Tell us Caves... which did you use?

The police are doing the 'drug' testing thingy here as part of random breath testing and it's funny to be out somewhere and watch how many people 'walk' home when they have only had one or two drinks with tea. These are people who in the past when I have dined with them would have no problem in driving home after a dinner out and a couple of wines.

We have all been aware of the 'drink, drive' stuff for ages now. Makes me wonder exactly how many people do drive with illicit drugs in their systems?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
I'll cut your bollocks off!
Posted: 1/21/2008 2:58:57 AM
Thanks Hilly, I do know that it was all hell trying to keep the little girl inside when she was on heat. She was only ever allowed outside if someone was with her. Would have not let her have a litter but she came on heat whilst we were holidaying and it was an 'unavoidable' incident.

I am sure that I had previously given her the 'good girls don't do that' talk..... but she just didn't listen.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Is the traditional family well and truely dead?
Posted: 1/21/2008 2:54:51 AM
This reminds me of a coffee cup that I was given by a male friend for my birthday one year. On the side was a women, looking at her diary in great distress, with a word bubble that said "damn, I forgot to have children".

I'm sure I read something recently that said the average age for first time mums is now 31. So, my guess is that the over 40's who are racing to the sperm banks are not indicative of the average women (only my guess).

I can understand the need for lesbian couples to use sperm donors. I can understand the need for heterosexual couples who sometimes need the sperm donor option. However, I cannot understand why a single woman would choose this option. Just like I can't understand why a woman would fall pregnant deliberately because she wanted a child and the (sperm donor) was none the wiser.

Personally, I chose to have children because I was in a loving relationship with my partner and it was for us the next step to our relationship, it was a commitment that we made together, it was discussed and planned and we took the step as a team (needless to say that team didn't stick together, but hey that part wasn't planned). I would only ever do it that way again.

Whilst I can't understand it, that does not mean that I don't condone it. What does worry me is in years to come when the child one one sperm donor falls madly in love with someone who they have met from other other side of the world only to discover (oops, we have the same sperm donors) this could be a whole new thread but imagine the genetic issues that we will be facing in the future. Nobody, will be able to reproduce without having DNA tests first to ensure there is not a direct genetic connection.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 25 (view)
 
I'll cut your bollocks off!
Posted: 1/21/2008 2:31:46 AM
Have seen the bands go on and the docking of tales for lambs and it is not a pretty smell. Burning skin smells horrid! Personally never witnessed mulesing but know why they do it, only wish there was a more humane way of doing it.

On the farm where my ex's family do this stuff they generally do the docking and banding at the one time and the sheep do the little skip, skip, jump (obviously in a bit of pain) and then trot of to their mums for some milk and left at that. Haven't seen any horrible side affects Naamah, but I'm sure they occur from time to time.

When I had the 'small boy child' and we announced that he was to be circumcised my father-in-law offered to give it a go, cause he thought it couldn't be any harder than what he has to do to the sheep. Umm, I chose the NO. Option.

Now, a question for Hilly... Once, we had a female dog and were told it was kind to give her a litter before getting her speyed (spelling??). Someone else told us that we must wait for her first season to come and go before getting her speyed. We actually did both. She had a season, then fell during the next and had a litter. She was a great little mother. Does it really matter when they are speyed?

Cuda - Not sure if were are on the same track here, however I do advocate 'chemical castration' for sex offenders.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Ozzies and immitations
Posted: 1/21/2008 2:07:57 AM

The only accents you encounter are extreme ones like Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin.

Funny thing, a friend was travelling overseas and was identified as coming from Sydney as opposed to anywhere else in Australia. When they asked how that person knew they were from Sydney they were told 'because of your accent'. This particular person said that they could guess where Aussies came from by their accents and mostly from the different terms that they use.

For example: if you come from Victoria you call a flat pancake shape of potato smothered in batter a "potato cake" in South Australia it's called a "potato scallop"

You will hear me say "I have my period" whereas my Sydney born sister-in-law says "I have my periods" I feel bad enough having one at a time, but she has many"

NSWelshmen say New car stle or Car stle maine - us Victorians say New cass tle or Cass tle maine

These are just a few that I can think of.

On topic. I don't do American very well, but by brother and I do good Indian, especially when we ring each other and say, very, very good today, how are you? My kids get a bit fed up with it though when their Uncle rings and puts on the Indian from Telstra calling and wanting to discuss your phone plan but won't let them put the phone down 'to get mum' and insists on speaking to them as they are who he wants to discuss phone plans with. Cracks me up!
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Tom Cruise a victim of Scientology?
Posted: 1/21/2008 1:55:58 AM

I think Cruise is a victim of his own stupidity.

Agree, anyone who can rant on about a subject as much as he has been of late without stopping for a reality check is stupid.


When I'm king of the world/Australia, I'll be making all churches pay tax.
I already have the title, will I be your Queen?


The celebs who crave attention get it, and the ones who genuinely want a break from it all manage to find that, too. Cruise is getting the feedback he signed up for.
In this case he is creating his own hyperbole. I call it Karma! Get what you give!


I wanted to marry Tom Cruise when he was in Top Gun........god im glad I did'nt!!
What took you so long Hilly? I wanted to marry him when I first saw Risky Business? And I too am glad that he turned down my proposal. Any my guess is that Naomi Watts was glad she stayed home for the Lamb Roast! Too bad her friend Nicole didn't do the same.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Religious Cults...anyone care to share their experiences?
Posted: 1/21/2008 1:40:10 AM
Doesn't actually count as a cult... however many years ago, when we were young and free...
Yep, that long ago! Had a friend (male - became bestman at our wedding) who had grown up in a catholic family but suddenly decided to become a Jehovah's Witness.

It was all good, he knew not to push it on his mates (can you imagine the flack an 18/19/20 year old was getting for this type of stuff) and he never did. Until.... One day, we jumped in the speed boat for a day of skiing and what did we discover sitting where the oars belonged (yep the oars were there too, but) a couple of copies of "The Watchtower" that lovely book that they try to sell you when they come knocking door to do. He suggested that if anyone got bored they could have a read whilst we cruised in the boat.

Needless to say, the books got thrown overboard at some stage during the day and nobody owned up to doing it. Of course, we were all doomed for our disrespect. It's just taking us a long time to meet our doom cause 20 odd years later we are all still here.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
What are the best memories of when you where a kid
Posted: 1/21/2008 1:34:09 AM
Sorry, I can't resist posting this here:


GROWING UP IN AUSTRALIA
I'm talking about hide and seek in the park. The corner milk bar, hopscotch, billy carts, cricket in front of the garbage bin and inviting everyone on your street to join in, Skipping, handball, handstands, elastics, bullrush, catch & kiss, footy on the best lawn in
the street, slip'n'slide, the trampoline with water on it, hula hoops, stepping in puddles, mud pies and building dams in the gutter. The smell of the sun and fresh cut grass.

'Big bubbles no troubles' with Hubba Bubba bubble gum. A choc-top. Mr Whippy cone on a warm summer night after you've chased him round the block. 20 cents worth of mixed lollies lasted a week and pretending to smoke "fags" (the lollies) was really cool!.. A dollars' worth of chips from the corner take-away fed two people (AND the sauce was free!!).

Being upset when you botched putting on the temporary tattoo from the bubblegum packet, but still wearing it proudly. Watching Saturday morning cartoons: 'AstroBoy', 'He-Man', 'Captain Caveman', 'Archie', 'Jem' (truly outrageous!!), 'The Wizard of Oz', 'Banana Man' and 'Heeeey heeeeey heeeeeeey it's faaaaaaat Albert'. When 'Monkey Magic' with fish face & pigsy had a cult following.

When around the corner seemed a long way, and going into town seemed like going somewhere. Where running away meant you did laps of the block because you weren't allowed to cross the road?? A million mozzie bites, wasp and bee stings. Sticky fingers, cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, riding bikes and catching tadpoles.

Marco polo in the neighbours' pool ("fish outta water?!""NOOOO"), drawing
all over the road and driveway with chalk. Climbing trees and building cubbies out of every sheet your mum had in the cupboard. Jumping out of the pool and making body shapes on the hot concrete, and burning your tummy when you did it.

Walking to school, no matter what the weather. When writing 'I love....?..' on your pencil case, really did mean it was true love. "he loves me? he loves me not?" with daisies picked form the school oval. Running till you were out of breath. Laughing so hard that your stomach hurt. Pitching the tent in the back/front yard. Jumping on the bed. Ghosts stories with the next door neighbours. Pillowfights, spinning round, getting dizzy and falling down was cause for the giggles. Murder in the dark.

The worst embarrassment was being picked last for a team. Water balloons were the ultimate weapon. Cricket cards in the spokes transformed any bike into a motorcycle. Eating raw jelly, making homemade lemonade and sucking on a Funny Face, Paddle Pop or red Icy Pole.

Remember when there were only two types of sneakers - girls and boys. Dunlop volleys with the green 'n' gold or blue (yep, they were the only shoes back in the 70's) and the only time you wore them at school was for "sports day." Bloomers in primary school & Scungies under netball skirts. You knew everyone in your street - and so did your parents!

It wasn't odd to have two or three "best friends" & you would ask them by sending a note asking them to be your best friend. You didn't sleep a wink on Christmas eve and pretended to sleep for the tooth fairy.

When nobody owned a pure-bred dog. When 50c was decent pocket money. When you'd reach into a muddy gutter for 10c. When nearly everyone's mum was there when the kids got home from school. It was magic when grandad would "remove" his thumb. When it was considered a great privilege to be taken out to dinner at the local Chinese restaurant with your family.

When any parent could discipline any kid, or feed her or use him to carry groceries and nobody, not even the kid, thought a thing of it.

When being sent to the principal's office was nothing compared to the fate that awaited a misbehaving student at home. Basically, we were in fear for our lives, but it wasn't because of drive-by shootings, drugs, gangs, etc. Our parents and grandparents were a
much bigger threat! Some of us are still afraid of them!!! "JUST YOU WAIT TILL YOUR FATHER GET HOME AND HEARS ABOUT THIS."

Remember when decisions were made by going "eeny-meeny-miney-mo" or dib dib's-scissors, paper, rock. "Race issue" meant arguing about who ran the fastest. Money issues were handled by whoever was the banker in Monopoly".

Terrorism was when the older kids were at the end of your street with pea-shooters waiting to ambush you. The worst thing you could catch from the opposite sex was boy/girl germs, and the worst thing in your day was having to sit next to one.

Where bluelight disco's were the equivalent to a Rave, and asking a boy out meant writing a 'polite' note getting them to tick 'yes' or 'no'. Having a weapon in school meant being caught with a slingshot. Your biggest danger at school was accidentally walking through the middle of a heated game of "brandies".

Nobody was prettier than your Mum. Scrapes and bruises were kissed and made better. Taking drugs meant scoffing orange-flavoured chewable vitamin C's, or swallowing half a Disprin. Ice cream was considered a basic food group. Going to the beach and catching a wave was a dream come true.
Abilities were discovered because of a "double-dare".


It is an email I have kept for years and it sums up all my best memories.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Shhhhhh - I don't want anybody to hear!
Posted: 1/18/2008 3:43:41 AM
Personally, I don't like to break the law, so I've never touched the illegal stuff but have been around people who do.

The legal stuff? Well I abuse it with great abandon, alcohol and prescription drugs (actually don't abuse them just take them cause I need them) but the alcohol definitely something that I take to excess on the odd occasion.

I think I'm a bit of a control freak and since I never lose control when I drink I just keep doing it. But I presume that I would not maintain control if I indulged in 'recreational' drugs so I choose not to.

Each to their own.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
if i was gay I could get lots of dates
Posted: 1/17/2008 11:15:13 PM
^^^ I think he is referring to people who vote on his pic. You know, you put your pic up there to be voted on... others check it out... vote and then you can look to see you has rated you highly. He is saying that 7 men have rated him/his pic highly.

Get it?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Circus Animals, is it cruelty?
Posted: 1/17/2008 1:38:23 PM

A mistake..I'm sure you make them,as well.
Actually,you did...you misspelled "grammatical."


Hey, I am a big believer in good spelling. However, if I'm not mistaken (and correct me if I am) the Spanish spell it 'gramatical' - Pedro is Spanish. Also, whilst I believe Pedro will most definitely defend himself here, I feel the need to inform you that I have read many of Pedro's post on many and varied topics and I don't believe that he would only arm himself with information that is supportive of his opinions. Those opinions have most likely developed because he has information from both sides of the spectrum, that is how we all develop our beliefs. I am sure you do the same. Whilst I have no problem with animals being used in circus' (provided those animals are well nourished and exercised on a regular basis) I enjoy reading the views of others such as Naamah, Hilly, Pedro et al, as I find their views to be informative and challenging to my own, which to me is what life is about.



So basically most people who complain about circus animal are confabulating...or just talking out of their a*sses.


It seems that you feel very comfortable in attacking others about their opinions (which is what I believe them to be) and yet not happy when someone has a dig at you (and I interpreted that dig to be 'tongue in cheek') No Sh1t Sherlock, is a bit of an Aussie thing. And my advice would be if you don't understand Aussie humour then perhaps you should stay out of the Aussie forums.

P.S. There is also a difference in Australian spelling of certain words and American spelling so should you find any errors in my post (humour) it may just be because of those differences.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 52 (view)
 
Circus Animals, is it cruelty?
Posted: 1/17/2008 3:32:35 AM
Whilst I don't intend to contradict myself I have been reading with great interest the postings by Hilly, Naamah and Cocytus. Thought that I would have a look at what the RSPCA ( Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) had to say on the matter:


By contrast, the philosophy behind animal rights is that humans and animals are equal and that all use of animals by humans is in fact, exploitation. Therefore, the goal of this movement is to end all human use of animals – this may include the farming of animals for consumption or for their products (meat, eggs, milk, honey), using animals for any medical or veterinary research, keeping of animals for sport or entertainment (e.g., zoos,
circuses, rodeos, horseshows, dog shows, animals performing in TV commercials, shows or
movies), guide-dogs for the blind, police dogs, search & rescue dogs, as well as the practice of owning pets.
and
RSPCA Australia believes that man must
treat animals humanely. Where man makes use of animals or interferes with their habitat, he should bestow a level of care befitting man’s own dignity as a rational, intelligent, compassionate being, and a level of care merited by the nature of the animal as a sentient creature capable of responding to man’s care and attention. Such care should be marked by sympathy, consideration, compassion and tenderness towards animals.

and
The welfare of elephants kept in zoos is severely compromised.
Potential causes for poor welfare in zoo elephants include restricted space and opportunity for exercise, unsuitable climate, extended periods of confinement, hard or wet flooring, inappropriate diet, small social groups, lack of stability in social groups, lack of opportunity to exhibit natural behaviours, and exposure to aversive stimuli in training and handling. For example, zoos cannot provide adequate space for elephants. Elephants are, by nature, nomadic creatures that are constantly on the move. In the wild, an elephant will walk up to 9km each day. It is nearly impossible to provide, even an adequate amount of space and exercise, in a captive environment.
I believe that this information could equally be applied to circus elephants
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 138 (view)
 
Australian Slang
Posted: 1/17/2008 3:16:54 AM
Has this one popped up yet?

Bewdy Newk!

Have to say that thanks to Kath and Kim Aussie slang is starting to turn into Kath and Kimisms. The other day at a BBQ with a friend and our mutual sons one we made a comment about 'oh, that's unusual' with regards to some sight we spied. Friends son went into the "That’s nice, that’s different, that’s unusual." spiel.

And who amongst us hasn't let slip with a 'look at moi, please'
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 233 (view)
 
Bad Spelling in forums / profiles - a real turn off ?
Posted: 1/17/2008 3:05:30 AM

have found no way of 'editing' or correcting a spelling mistake once posted here

Once posted you automatically get taken back to the thread. Scroll to where you post is and in column on the left below where you photo, joined date, message number, profile, history etc there is also a option to EDIT POST click on this and you can make any changes that you like to the post that you just made.

I'm not sure how long this remains available to you but I know that I have had the option available for more than long enough for me to read back over what I have posted and to then go in and make the required changes (if I find them).
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 45 (view)
 
Where is the present for the dad?
Posted: 1/17/2008 2:34:24 AM
From memory - and yes it's a little fuzzy as 'princess' came into the world over 15 years ago and 'small boy child' almost 13 years ago - friends (other couples) visited with presents for baby cards addressed to both parents. Females congratulated both parents on the birth and then sat with me to swap grueling (and graphic) childbirth stories, males congratulated both parents on the birth then walked out of the room with husband to do whatever couldn't be done in the room whilst over hearing the grueling (and graphic) exchange of stories.

Single female friends bought presents for baby, cards addressed to both parents and sat and discussed the whole thing with both of us.

Flowers came addressed to both of us!

Single male friends did not visit (except one but he's a pretty special person) they all just met up with husband at one of the various pubs that he spent the next 6 nights in 'celebrating' the birth. In my day I got to stay in hospital for a bit longer than women do these days and therefore hubby got to spend lots of nights being cooked for and coddled by his sisters and my mother (cause he couldn't possible be expected to look after himself during this time that his wife was in hospital) then skipped off to a pub with another group of mates who he hadn't yet share the jubilation with.

Perhaps these mates were not celebrating with my hubby, but commiserating with him for the ordeal that he had to endure as the supportive father, birthing partner, etc, etc. Don't get me wrong, he was great through the whole thing (except the times he left to get food, or went to the newsagent to get a newspaper cause he was bored), but I feel he got his fair share of appreciation.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
New Relationship Trends?
Posted: 1/17/2008 2:18:34 AM
Avo ^^^ do you have a hidden camera at my house?

I just finished my post, helped myself to a large bowl of ice-cream with a a grated mint slice bikkie sprinkled on top. Sat back down, typed another post and then found this one of yours.

Please tell me where it is so that I can avoid doing unsavoury things in front of it.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 6 (view)
 
if i was gay I could get lots of dates
Posted: 1/17/2008 2:14:59 AM
Caves, if anyone was going to convert it would most assuredly be because of you

This surprises me Ado! However, I did the random photo voting once and voted on both male and female photo's. I did my voting on the 'type' of pic and the 'image' that the pic portrayed. So the females who had the t1ts half hanging out or the half dressed look happening did not get very high votes from me.

The ones who had clear head shots without strange expressions or such rated highly. So maybe this is the same in your case. Looking at your pic I too would rate you highly. Simply because it is a clear shot and it is mainly your face, which I think is important.

My guess is that more men vote on the pics than women (men are more visual) and more women take the time to read the profiles rather than vote on the pics (and I may be way off the mark here in this guesstimate). So that could (but probably doesn't) explain why your getting lots of votes from men.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
New Relationship Trends?
Posted: 1/17/2008 2:06:37 AM
Wow! It must be a trend. I have just experienced this first hand.

Situation - Wife decides marriage is over and moves out of marital home of her own volition. Husband gets on with his life, works hard, looks after the kids full time, after a time and because of encouragement from a friend he puts himself on a dating site. Messages woman (me) does the message back and foward thing, does the msn chat thing, does the exchange of phone number, meet, spend a few weeks getting to know one another, natural progression into seeing each other a few times a week at least, have sleep overs, meet each others friends, kids etc. All is going well, until ex-wife comes to house to get the kids and realises that husband has moved on and is happy. Ex-wife decides that she is going to move back into the marital home (albeit in the fourth bedroom) causing all sorts of confusion.

Things progress from bad to worse and nine months after husband messaged woman (me) he does the 'i'm not ready for another relationship' thing. 'But can we still be friends, cause you're a great person and I care about you a great deal and I don't want to stop being your friend'.

My thoughts - Wife has decided 'I don't want you, but I don't want anyone else to have you either'.

I think that might be the case for many. I also know that in this particular case the husband feels that he owes his wife something (only God knows why). He has said that they will never 'get' together again, but still they live in the same house, he earns the money, she spends it, the children need stability and are confused over what the current situation is. He would prefer that the marriage never ended and says that he loves her but is not in love with her.

What is this phenomena?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 61 (view)
 
The worst reason for someone to decide you're not for them
Posted: 1/17/2008 1:48:19 AM

In a general sense I think one of the most frustrating reasons for rejection can be when a couple seems to be going great guns, and then one suddenly comes out with "I'm not ready for a relationship" or "the timing is wrong for me" type of stuff. Leaves the other one wondering why the alleged unready person started it in the first place. I suspect it's a little bit of a cop out myself.


Yes, have to agree! Why invest nine months into a 'relationship' but then suddenly decide these things ^^^?

And how many of us have copped the "but we can still be friends" line after having been a lot more than friends in the past?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 34 (view)
 
Aussie Cricket Team
Posted: 1/17/2008 12:41:03 AM


Queen - what is the difference, I wonder, between sledging and banter?
I also wondered, so I went to this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banter

"Banter" or "O-shaberi" (O-Shabs) in Japanese, is non-serious conversation usually between friends, which may rely on humour at the expense of those taking part or in-jokes.


I think that the key here is "which may rely on humour at the expense of those taking part"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sledging_(cricket)

The aim is to intimidate or distract the batsman into making a fatal mistake and being dismissed. Sledging thus tries to "break the flow" of the batsman's game.[citation needed] There is debate in the cricketing world over whether this is poor sportsmanship or good-humoured banter.


I guess the real difference is who is on the receiving end?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Aussie Cricket Team
Posted: 1/16/2008 4:41:30 AM
The following are excerpts from this website: http://cricket.com.au/_content/document/00000056-src.pdf

The Players' Spirit of Australian Cricket
As cricketers who represent Australia we acknowledge and embrace “The Spirit of
Cricket” and the laws of our game.
This Players' Spirit of Australian Cricket serves as a guide to the shared standards of
behaviour that we expect of ourselves and of the values we hold.
Our on-field behaviour
We play our cricket hard but fair and accept all umpiring decisions as a mark of
respect for our opponents, the umpires, ourselves and the game.
We view positive play, pressure, body language and banter between opponents and
ourselves as legitimate tactics and integral parts of the competitive nature of cricket.
We do not condone or engage in sledging or any other conduct that constitutes
personal abuse.
We encourage the display of passion and emotion as a sign of our enjoyment and
pride in the game, as a celebration of our achievements and as a sign of respect for
our opponents.
Clearly states that sledging is not condoned... do we believe this to be true of the current Australian team? I always that sledging was just accepted, was I wrong? Please advise?


Our team
We take pride in our sense of the importance of the team and acknowledge the role
of the team captain and our direct support staff. We demonstrate this by displaying
loyalty and compassion to each other, by accepting our role as mentors and by
supporting each other to abide by these values.
We value honesty and accept that every member of the team has a role to play in
shaping, and abiding by our shared standards and expectations.
We strive to be regarded as the best team in the world. We measure this by our on
field achievements and by exploring ways in which we might continue to “raise the
bar” in respect of our own professionalism.
We acknowledge and follow the traditions of our game while encouraging and
accepting experimentation that will enable us to create our own traditions and history.
We do this in the expectation that we will leave the game in a better shape than it
was before we arrived.
Our opponents
We acknowledge and respect that our opponents may hold different cultural values
and beliefs from our own, and value the diversity and richness this adds to the game.
By treating our opponents with dignity and forging bonds of mutual respect, we will
overcome any cultural barriers.
Hmmm, what do we think of this one?


Respect
We respect the governing bodies of the game, our support teams in every capacity
and our players' association. We demonstrate this respect by seeking and offering
frank and open communication in accordance with the Players' Spirit of Australian
Cricket.
Written by Cricket Australia contracted players, October 2003


I find the whole thing very interesting and wonder if this document is still regarded as valid by the current Australian Cricket Team.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
What is the word fun mean to you?
Posted: 1/16/2008 4:27:49 AM

Dinner with friends when you leave the table with a teary eyes and sore ribs from laughing
Have to agree with this one liksa.. most assuredly one of the meanings of 'fun'
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 44 (view)
 
Apologising to Aboriginal Australians
Posted: 1/16/2008 3:59:59 AM
Just touching on the dollars from government issue, I found a copy of this interview that I remember seeing on Four Corners with Tania Major (2007 Young Australian of the Year).


Right. What's your vision?

Well my vision for Cape York is that I don't want my people to be government recipients. I want them to have their own industries, to be proud, to have self respect for themselves and get out of that whole welfare-independent system that they're so induced in now, in 10 years, and have our own doctors and lawyers from Cape York and have more educated Aboriginal people from Cape York.

And you want to lose the sense of being victims?

Yes I wanna lose the sense of being victims and government recipients and welfare recipients more so than - yeah and welfare-dependency.


The link for the whole interview is: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2003/20030728_positions_vacant/int_major.htm

I can also remember seeing this remarkable young woman on Enough Rope with Andrew Denton and I recall her whole attitude is that the Government funding has been going to the wrong places for Aboriginal people for too long. Therefore creating what is now, and has been for some time, a welfare dependent community. Tania wants this funding to be redirected into areas that can reduce or eliminate welfare dependency and is working towards this end currently.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
What are peoples thoughts on deppression ?
Posted: 1/16/2008 3:12:34 AM

Hi what would you do when your going for a new job ?
Tell them at the interview ....
Tell them after your landed the job....
Tell them if it becomes a problem ....


I can answer this from two angles. As an employer and as and someone who suffers with depression.

As an employer we ask our staff to complete a pre-employment health declaration. This is the chance for them to provide us with any information which relates to their health (physical and mental) to determine pre-existing issues and many employers will use a form such as or similar to this these days because of Work Place Accident and Injury (OH & S issues). If you fill in a form such as this then it is necessary to include this on the form. Particularly if you will be handling machinery, driving or working in an environment where any medication could have an affect on your skills (however most anti-depression medications these days do not cause drowsiness).

You are not obligated to inform your employer unless they specifically request a health declaration. This will usually come after you have been offered the position and prior to you actually starting in that position.

Phew.... long way of getting there.

As a sufferer I can sympathise with you and the dilemma that you face. Only you can answer these questions, however I understand that you are interested in our perspective on the issue. My advice is to tell a partner when you feel comfortable with doing so.

I have another health issue that pre-disposes me to depression so usually when people ask about the other (blatantly obvious because I have a viewable scar from the operation) I usually tell them about the health issue and then say "and of course with that I also suffer from depression" I then tell them that it is treated and I am "on top of it" I have always found people to be supportive and it is amazing the number of people who will actually say "oh, really, I've been/am being treated for depression". It's wonderful that it is being talked more openly about, however I think we still have a long way to go and we still need to remove some of the stigma and misconceptions that are related to depression.

As we are livingwith more and more pressures on us to perform well in all aspects of our lives, to achieve and to be healthy the rate of depression is increasing.

Cheers to all who have been brave enough to talk about their own experiences in this thread and to ethergy for starting it off in the first place.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 33 (view)
 
The Jokes Thread
Posted: 1/16/2008 2:48:07 AM
Three snails, Mick, Andy and Roy, decide to go on a picnic. They pack
a picnic basket with beer and sandwiches. The trouble is the picnic
site is a mile away so it takes them ten days to get there.
When they do, Mick unpacks the food and beer.
'Ok Roy give me the bottle opener',
'I didn't bring it' says Roy. 'I thought you packed it'.
Mick gets worried, he turns to Andy,' Did you bring the bottle opener'.
Naturally Andy didn't bring it.
So they're stuck a mile from anywhere without a bottle opener. They
both beg Roy to go back for it. But he refuses as he says they will eat all the
sandwiches when he's gone.
After two hours, and after they have sworn on their snail lives that
they will not eat the sandwiches, he finally agrees.
So Roy sets off down the road at a steady pace. 20 days pass and he still isn't back and
Mick and Andy are starving, but a promise is a promise.
Another 5 days and he still isn't back, but a promise is a promise.
Finally they can't take it any longer so they take out a sandwich each, and just
as they are about to eat it, Roy pops up from behind a rock and shouts
'I knew it'......I'm not F*#king going'.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Aussie Cricket Team
Posted: 1/15/2008 3:42:31 AM
Garf, you have confused me more.

I think it is one word snickometre and tachometre and barometre and kilometre etc etc etc

However the small boy child says that it is three words

Snick-o-Meter

And what you have typed is a bit of a contradiction. My sons is pronouncing it as

Snick O Metre (a bit like you said the americans would say it)
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Apologising to Aboriginal Australians
Posted: 1/14/2008 4:05:20 AM

its my perception the aboriginal people dont want our sorrow or cash but just recognition.

Maybe a small, noisy percentage do want the sorrow and cash, but I too agree that the majority want recognition.

My question is "Will saying sorry change anything". I think the answer is: No, it wont! But it could be a start in the right direction.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Bumper Stickers!!
Posted: 1/14/2008 3:58:46 AM
A toy duck, yep, we have one of them in our bathtub. Cute little yellow thing that floats in the water.
(not a duck but the closest I could come up with - no thanks to Marcus)
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
A Girlfriend not a Wife
Posted: 1/14/2008 3:51:17 AM
itsallgood - I've just read your profile, and I was wondering if it is too soon for me to quit my job, sell my house and move in with you...

Ok, seriously as a couple of other posters have already mentioned you should be a bit more explicit in your profile. I have read some great profiles that have mentioned stuff about what their 'ideal' relationship would be like. You could try this! Or simply state when you first meet someone that you want to take things slowly (yes keep the pants on otherwise you are contradicting yourself).

The only problem that I see is one of these days you will fall head over heels for someone, want to spend every waking minute with them and whamo - Karma is gonna come and get ya. But that's life and we have to roll with it.

Good luck with it all.

And by the way, what address to I get my mail forward to?
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Aussie Cricket Team
Posted: 1/14/2008 3:42:38 AM
Kinds of changing the topic here, but Small Boy Child and I are having a debate over the pronunciation of a certain cricket term.

Is it pronounced Snick O meter (emphasis on the O - meter is a new word)

or;

Snickometer (as in thermometer)

Clarification will help settle the argument (oops sorry, disagreement)
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Are we just a little too laid back or are we lazy
Posted: 1/14/2008 3:33:00 AM
Scottie, as one of the people who started a camping thread I have to say it was the topic of the day and I thought I would open it up to everyone here.

Also, I think that you have to rule out laziness here. Have you had a read through some of the current threads. Feminism, God, bad spelling and others have pages and pages of great thoughts, opinions and fantastic input form various people. If there was laziness these threads would be 1 or 2 pages long.


- the 'regulars' often overtake a thread with their banter.

Yep, the endless chat that it totally irrelevant is rather frustrating and personally makes me not interested in reading all of the thread.


- many 'strangers' feel 'intimidated' to jump in.
I think people don't try to start threads until they are truly comfortable in the forums and I agree that it can be intimidating at times. You just have to jump in, two feet first and know that the worst that can happen is people will attack you mercilessly (only joking that only seems to happen to those of us who 'bait' people)


- sarcasim and criticism and is rife at times to those that dissent or disagree with 'the mob'.
I think that of late some of the more sarcastic and critical posters have gone on holidays. So that makes it great for the rest of us. (I am not referring to the keylogger thread here - I advise that you ignore that thread as it contains nasty lies, name calling and downright outrageous allegations about some members of the forums)

I personally am really enjoying the forums right now. Although going to work and coming home to find that there is way more to read than I expected is a bit tough going. Might have to kick the small boy child off the computer sooner so that I can get more forum time in for myself.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 60 (view)
 
Collectors: Idiosyncracies, obsessions, fetishes
Posted: 1/14/2008 3:02:14 AM
Gypsygal, why not trade your maps for the old bottles. Two birds/one stone. So to speak.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 214 (view)
 
Bad Spelling in forums / profiles - a real turn off ?
Posted: 1/12/2008 7:57:44 PM
^^^No wonder my kids can't spell

Don't get me wrong about any of this I think good spellings is very important, but I'm not such a fuss budget that i get all hot and bothered over it like some others have.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Do you guys only post in the 'Australia' forum?
Posted: 1/12/2008 7:53:01 PM
Witchy, thanks for the kind words and also the support in the other thread which I will never go into again.

At the moment I only post in the Aussie forums. I do go and look around the others every now and again but don't feel the need to post in them much at all. I find sharing my thoughts and opinions here in the Aussie forums valuable enough. I have only come back here recently myself after a hiatus of about 7 or 8 months and have been so glad to get back into the swing of things and to get back in touch with some of my old (not in age) forums friends.

Ummm... can't remember what else was in your original question. Hope that I have not strayed OT.
 QueenV07
Joined: 1/19/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
substance
Posted: 1/12/2008 5:01:56 PM
Welcome Witchy, you're gonna love it here.

Question? When did this thread change from Contact to Substance? And how?

It's a good idea to do the separate email account. I hadn't thought of that myself. I can see how it would remove the worry about direct access but still allow genuine people to contact you. Give it a go and let us know what happens.
 
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