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Thread: Do Women Really Want Man's Advice ?
fredhh
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Do Women Really Want Man's Advice ?
Posted: 12/13/2010 10:29:23 AM
Women always say they want honesty...
Then they ask a guy:
"Does this dress make me look fat?"
They don't want the honest answer to that question.
Because the honest answer is:
"Its never the dress's fault."
Your doctor can tell you if you are in the range that is considered healthy. Listen to him/her.
You now have honesty.
Did you really want it?
Probably not...
fredhh
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Do Women Really Want Man's Advice ?
Posted: 12/11/2010 7:44:46 PM
Posted By: ray of moonlight
^^^Are you back to the cave man thing again?That was 50000 years ago.Let it go already! Life is change.Stagnation is not good for anything.
Your username is a good description of you.You truly are lost.
Actually its an incomplete description...
fredhh
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Do Women Really Want Man's Advice ?
Posted: 12/10/2010 1:42:06 AM
When a man discusses a problem he is generally going to be looking for a solution, thus will want input on how to solve it.
Wemen are more likely to just be wanting to talk about how the issue makes them feel with no real intent to find a solution to tha actual problem.
The above doesn' seem to apply in the forums...
Generally people posting about problems in the forums will just be looking for permission to do the stupid thing they already want to do even though they know its wrong.
fredhh
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Posted: 12/9/2010 5:28:25 PM
Most often...
People don't want advice. they want permission.
That way they can blame someone else for thier bad decisions.
Its not just women...
fredhh
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Trouble getting along with a sibling
Posted: 12/8/2010 2:56:45 PM
Your chosen username and the pettyness of the squabble indicates that you are just as hard to get along with as y0ur brother.
You can accept at least 50% of the responsibility for the issues or you can blame your mother for not raising you right.
fredhh
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do some drug addicts lie about attending rehab?
Posted: 11/19/2010 10:17:10 AM
Drug addicts are almost as good at lieing as career politicians.
(pick your political party.... they all lie)
If you believe either at any time then you need to see a mental health professional.
fredhh
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Can you BE thankful for who/what you've got? 10days to Tday, 40 to Xmas..
Posted: 11/16/2010 4:53:39 PM
"Can you ...."
asks if its possible.
Of course its possible.
The question that really should be asked is...
Will you?
Some of the responses above indicate a willful refusal to be thankful.
EG:
Posted By: archangel_7
**** a Christmas. It's a normal day of a typical holiday ( the worldy Christmas anyway) I am very thankful for what I have it's the BS pressure of Christmas holiday is what pisses me off. Santa Claus drop dead
fredhh
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What's a Keeper...
Posted: 11/15/2010 10:10:31 PM
We could go in circles for years about proving or disproving the existance of "God".
Lets look at one of the basic laws of pysics: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Its form can be changed. Mass is just energy in another form by E=MC^2
OK.
Before the "big bang"... where did the energy come from?
This is an endless question simply because it asks how the energy to "create" the universe was created.
No science we know of can explain it any better than the answer of... God made it.
Then that begs the question of... where did God come from?
Let me ask the pure science types this question:
If evolution is a good thing then why would it be a good thing to "waste" resources to support the life of a child with a birth defect? Isn't a birth defect "Darwin's" way of saying that the parents shouldn't breed?
Do you really believe in evolution ... or not?
Survival of the fittest implies: Kill the unfit.
fredhh
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What does a 'kiss' mean?
Posted: 11/15/2010 8:56:37 PM
Different meanings to different people ... often based on how they were raised.
In one family/culture kissing could be essentially meaningless.
In another it could be more significant than any other indicator.
then there's the type of kiss...
"stage kissing" where the lips never actually contact skin. (politician's wives who hate each other)
peck on the cheek
lip-lip contact
...
One rough guide that someone might use:
Forehead for Family
Cheek for Chums
Lips for lovers.
But that only applies if the person doing the kissing uses the same guide.
fredhh
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Losing interest after telling them what I do for a living.
Posted: 11/14/2010 3:57:26 PM
Get used to it.
Women will rarely date someone who makes less than they do.
Darwin at work.
Women seek providers... to support their offspring
Men seek to procreate.
In modern society, the guy with the largest wallet wins.
fredhh
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Sugar Daddies/Mama's.......
Posted: 11/2/2010 7:19:28 PM
You can get a "sugar daddy" at any age.
Its just that the 20 yr old hottie will be able to attract Donald Trump...
While the 60 yr old "walking prune" will only be able to attract a wineo.
If your carreer is the "Worlds oldest proffession"
You had better be good at putting money away because once the looks fade so will the income.
fredhh
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Interested or letting me down gently?
Posted: 11/2/2010 2:20:50 PM
He's not interrested and/or he is trying to follow guidelines for instructors/lecturers at the school related to having relationships with students. (generally not a good idea even if they might be allowed under his contract)
Expect him to be "out of bounds" at least until you are not a student... or he is no longer employed at the school.
By then you'll probably be infatuated with someone else.
fredhh
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Profession as a Therapist an Issue?
Posted: 11/2/2010 1:35:17 PM
Unfortunately, in todays dating world people rely heavily on deception to get by
And that is an understatement! Maybe more accurate if "attempted" put before deception..
That may be part of the OPs issue.. Many assume most therapists can always see peoples lies...
Well... I think that deception has been used in dating for centuries and that it is nothing new.
Note Shakespear's Cyreno... a story of deception in "courting" written centuries ago.
Its just simpler to use more blatant deception when you are arranging dates via the internet. Long ago (not all that long ago really) it was probable that your prospective dates had opportunity to see you on a daily basis. Your pool of prospective dates generally lived within 20 miles and you probably attended school with the majority of them.
The internet dates are unlikely to have ever seen or heard of you before they read your profile or received that first contact message.
In the 1950's it would have been very hard for an "Otis" (town drunk in the old Andy Griffith show) to have passed himself off as a millionare for even 5 minutes.
Today, via the internet he could...
fredhh
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Relationship Help
Posted: 11/1/2010 2:07:39 PM
Sometimes, when someone emphatically tells you that they don't feel anything for you are actually telling you the contrary. It's kind of the person that tells you that they hate you, hate you, hate you. There are a lot of emotions there.
the standard Stalker answer...
in keeping with:
When honorable geisha say no, she mean maybe.
When honorable geisha say maybe she mean yes
When geisha say yes she not honorable.
In reality, when a woman says no... she usually means:
GET THE HELL AWAY FROM ME, LOSER.
But she's too polite to acually say it.
fredhh
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Relationship Help
Posted: 11/1/2010 10:07:05 AM
Original post rephrased:
What do you do when someone rejects you?
A) Act like a rational adult and move on
B) Become a stalker
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Now that its put in the proper perspective the answer should be obvious.
fredhh
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more blonde jokes
Posted: 10/31/2010 11:36:52 PM
Your version of bimbait is not quite right...
Bimbait = cash.
Its what attracts bimbos most efficiently.
Size does matter... size of the wallet.
fredhh
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Is he trying to get me preggo??
Posted: 10/28/2010 2:22:34 AM
How many threads are you going to start about your one night stand?
This is # 3 that I have found in the last 2 min.
Do you think you have to post it in every forum subsection? (twice in relationships...)
OK... honestly:
You are either a troll or you make the sterotypical blonde look very smart.
AND... please report this post so the forum admin will see it and delete all of your thread-spam. (and maybe your account, which would increase the average IQ of the forums by at least 40 points)
How do you get past the 7/10 votes?
fredhh
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WHY DO MEN LIE TO GET A WOMAN TO FALL IN LOVE
Posted: 10/27/2010 11:11:30 PM
Posted By: lazzer53
I wouldn't lie to get a woman to fall in love, What I wonder is why women lie in a relationship. A man says would you mind if I went to the ball game today? She say's yes it ok I don't mind. You get home, she is angry that you went. Saying "you should have known" Then treats the man badly for day's. On both sides be honest and say what you mean.
Men are supposed to be able to read women's minds and thus know when they mean the exact opposite of what they say.
When a woman says .......................... you should also "hear":
Fine................................................... you get to sleep on the couch for a week for that.
Do what you want ............................. and you won't ever hear the end of it
Sure, you can go............................... if you want to make me mad.
Does this dress make me look fat...... you better say no and tell me how wonderful I look.
Based on a few old jokes... which are based on reality, or they wouldn't be funny.
fredhh
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Unbiased Male Opinion Needed
Posted: 10/27/2010 9:45:48 AM
Girl #1 is busy in the dating forum posting "hypotheticals" to justify her anger at guys for not appreciating her.
Its OBVIOUS that the OP is girl #1
So she's definitely out.
Girl #2.... I wouldn't even wish on Bill Clinton (I hate Clinton) He'd probably like the "gift" but he doesn't need as much punishment as would result.
Thanks OP for the warning that you tend to be manipulative and will seek to use any type guilt trip you can to get your way.
fredhh
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Need third party advice please
Posted: 10/23/2010 6:02:29 PM
She does side jobs for the mob...
Why haven't you contacted the FBI?
She's a self-professed FELON and you hesitate to improve society by helping put her in a cage...
Speaks volumes about YOU
fredhh
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WHY DO MEN LIE TO GET A WOMAN TO FALL IN LOVE
Posted: 10/22/2010 12:44:22 PM
Why do threads designed to create dissention (like this one) survive 10 seconds?
Just because the op fell for a liar (and thinks all men are like that because thats the kind SHE PICKS EVERY TIME) doesn't make it ALL men's fault.
Sorry OP... you need therapy.
Try filling your mind with some REALITY
fredhh
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just curious....
Posted: 10/21/2010 10:48:20 PM
Posted By: Sweet_kisses05
Ive had many coffee dates that is the safest bet for a first date so how are you approaching this that woman reject a coffee date
Any first meet the rules should be:
3 exits in sight
(from my profile)
and a very public location.
fredhh
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more blonde jokes
Posted: 10/17/2010 8:56:13 PM
A classic:
A blonde finds herself in serious trouble.
Her business has gone bust and she is in financial straits.
She's desperate so she decides to ask God for help.
She begins to pray... 'God please help me,
I've lost my business and if I dont get some money,
I'm going to lose my house as well.
Please let me win the lottery.'
Lottery night comes and someone else wins.
She again prays...' God please let me win the lottery.
I've lost my business,my house and I'm going to lose my car as well.'
Lottery night comes and again someone else wins.
Once again she prays...My God why have you forsaken me?
I've lost my business my house and my car,
I dont often ask you for help and I've always been a good servant to you...
Please let me win the lottery this one time so I can get my life back in order.'
Suddenly there is a blinding flash of light as the heavens open. The blonde is overwhelmed by the voice of God himself....
'Sweetheart, work with me on this....Buy a ticket.'
fredhh
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Old BF
Posted: 10/17/2010 8:51:32 PM
He's getting bored with his current SO and he thinks the sex was good with you so he's setting you up as a "fallback position"
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We can make all kinds of wild guesses.
Some might even come close to reality.
We can't read the guy's mind based on the information provided.
fredhh
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How do you know if someone truly loves you?
Posted: 10/17/2010 8:47:30 PM
They will care as much (or more) about your comfort/safety than thier own.
No greater love has man....
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There are many definitions of love... The Greeks had many words for the different aspects of love because one word doesn't really cover it.
fredhh
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Card and Gift Giving
Posted: 10/17/2010 8:36:57 PM
Posted By: *topchef*
The conversation about "holidays" comes up fairly early in the relationship for me. These specified dates are the result of social conditioning and a form of manipulation that is grounded in business opportunities and I do not support them. I buy gifts when the mood or inclination strikes me and instead of cards, I bake cakes, pies or might make you a mean moussaka....with love as the essential ingredient. Having card companies decide when and how we should express our love and appreciation for our loved ones is ridiculous, IMHO.
A personal note is far more genuine and needs no occasion for its giving.
Exactly.
Gifts by the calendar or at the demand of the recipients aren't really gifts.
Tribute
Rental
Fees
Whatever you want to call them.... don't call it a gift when its something that was scheduled other than by the WHIM of the giver.
fredhh
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Card and Gift Giving
Posted: 10/17/2010 5:40:47 PM
I have been calling "Christmas" "Loot Day" for many years...
The commercialization has taken over and the intended celebration is lost.
The date chosenfor this holiday also is suspiciously related to ancient Roman diety(s) worship...
The only Judeo-Christian holiday dates you can trust are on the Jewish calendar.
We can be fairly confident of the date of Easter simply because the Jews have kept track of Passover quite efficiently for about 4,000 years. Since the crucifixion happened the weekend of Passover the date is going to be accurate.
However the modern mode of celebration of easter (egg hunts and gifts related to eggs, baby chicks and baby rabbits) approximates that of a "pagan" fertility celebration.
Sorry... don't ask me to be anxious to "honor" celebrations of greed.
fredhh
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Would you get involved with this woman?
Posted: 10/16/2010 9:59:09 PM
Sounds like an excelent opportunity for you to learn about the joys of having multiple venerial diseases.
You know for sure she has one thats incureable...
fredhh
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Card and Gift Giving
Posted: 10/14/2010 11:21:47 PM
Guys can look at holidays as "extortion by proxy"... especially when we don't believe in the holiday.
Look at Valentine's day... its essentially the Candy maker's and card maker's extortion by proxy day.
Virtually no basis for the holiday that is understood by the average person.
But throughout my life it has been DEMANDED that I supply cards to females (beginning in kindergarden when we had to make them in class then were forced to pass them out even if we didn't like the girl(s) )
Don't give your girl something on Valentine's Day and... a guy had better be in the hospital (or he'll end up there...).
The real origin isn't really that much better... (St Valentine was essentially "made up" to allow celebration of this holiday by Christians)
In Ancient Rome, February 14th was a holiday to honor Juno, Queen of the Roman Gods and Goddesses. The Feast of Lupercalia started the next day.
During these times boys and girls were segregated. However, the young people had a custom that began on the eve of the Festival of Lupercalia. The girl’s names were written on pieces of paper and inserted into jars. Each boy then drew a girl’s name from the jar and they were partners throughout the Festival. After being paired, the children would often continue to see each other throughout the year and on occasion even fell in love and got married.
fredhh
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ITS ALL ABOUT ATTITUDE FOR THE OVER 45s
Posted: 10/14/2010 12:56:00 AM
Its all about attitude regardless of age.
The better your attitude the more likely other people will be to want to be around you.
The worse your attitude the more they'll wish they had some rotten tomatos to throw at you.
fredhh
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Card and Gift Giving
Posted: 10/14/2010 12:49:52 AM
Posted By: daynadaze
This is simple, don't date women who want things you don't want to give.
That would mean that guys aren't allowed to date women.
fredhh
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Do couples have joint or separate accounts?
Posted: 10/13/2010 9:35:51 PM
For most of human history.. the kids didn't go off to school. They helped thier parents do the work needed to survive.
Kids learned thier marketable skills by working with thier parents... or "apprenticing" under some other adult.
the rich could afford to hire people to watch thier kids... no one else could.
"Day Care" is an invention of the post WWII era.
We started out with public schools... acting as day care for the working class... and expanded from there.
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Can women sense a drought?
Posted: 10/12/2010 9:53:29 PM
The "drought" is more often the RESULT of something else that is turning the women off... or inhibiting your pursuit of them.
Some like to think that women tend to chase men who are already taken due to the challenge.
More likely its that the men who are worth chasing are already "taken"
Same kind of thing goes for women... the best ones always seem to already be in a committed relationship.
so... that leaves the "less desireables" chatting about how hard it is to find a good date on internet dating forums...
fredhh
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hooking up
Posted: 10/11/2010 12:33:59 AM
Sexting... how to get your neked picture passed around the office in 30 seconds or less in one easy lesson. If its a really good picture you can expect it to get posted to porn sites, possibly with your name and phone number.
Have a nice day.
Tomorrow will be worse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR4oKUjzv00
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Do couples have joint or separate accounts?
Posted: 10/8/2010 9:12:28 PM
If buying a house together and not getting married... you probably should talk with an attourney about how to write up a contract specifying who will have what share of ownership of the house. (and how to have the mortgage and title work done)
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Do couples have joint or separate accounts?
Posted: 10/6/2010 10:21:58 PM
You should have:
(assuming you communicate properly about manaing money and use the accounts responsibly...)
One separate checking account each.
One joint checking account for the monthly bills
One personal savings account each and a joint savings.
A retirement account (IRA/Roth/401k...) for each person who qualifies to set one up.
Possibly more accounts....
The separate checking accounts are where you keep your individual spending "allowances"
And you don't "raid" the joint account when your individual account runs low...
Unfortunately, proper financial management and responsible spending habits are not taught in school or in most homes today. Too many people think: "I still have checks left so I can't be broke."
fredhh
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dating a man who's going through a divorse
Posted: 10/1/2010 6:03:07 PM
Simply put: "Working on a divorce" = still married.
You either have the paper saying the divorce is done... or you don't.
Until the divorce is DONE... consider them undateable.
fredhh
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Future ex wife insecurities
Posted: 9/30/2010 4:13:24 PM
You can't control your ex except by restricting her access to you.
She's going to be your EX... that makes her insecurities her problem, not yours.
If she can't deal with the idea of you dating someone else... its her problem.
If you "trade in one 40 yr old for a pair of 20's" and she doesn't like it... thats her problem not yours.
If you trade in a 250 lb woman for a pair of 110 lb women and your ex doesn't like it... thats her problem, not yours.
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Since when is 50 a senior?
Posted: 9/28/2010 8:38:07 PM
The "kids" of the 1960's who said you couldn't trust anyone over 30... now say you can't trust anyone under 50.
And the circle is complete
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Since when is 50 a senior?
Posted: 9/28/2010 6:47:43 PM
The first cards inviting me to join AARP arrived when I was 45.
I filled the postpaid envelope they enclosed with scrap lead and sent it back. They have to pay by the ounce.
I do that with any unwanted junk mail that has a postpaid envelope. I don't get many repeats.
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since the average life expectancy in the US has been constantly going up... we have constantly been shifting the age we have considered someone a "senior Citizen"
It used to be common to expect to be able to retire by age 55. People used to be able to collect social security retirement at 55 too. Thats where the idea of "senior discounts" starting at 55 came from.
But average life expectancy was less than 50 for most of world history. So cinsidering someone over 50 as a senior citizen does make sense. They beat the average for human lifespan. (takig all of history into account it will be a long time before that shifts)
At some point you need to quit being ashamed of getting older and start being proud of how long you survived.
Over the hill beats under the hill every time.
fredhh
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Pof matching system upgrade
Posted: 9/27/2010 10:34:14 PM
I'd like to be able to filter by pets
EG
Owns dog
Owns cat
Owns both
Owns neither
Allergic
I think that would be more useful than the chemistry test...
Note that this thread belongs in Forum Suggestions, not here in Relationship issues.
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just curious....
Posted: 9/21/2010 8:57:28 PM
The common factor in your getting rejected every time will be seen in your mirror.
Something about you... appearance, attitude... the type of women you choose to approach... whatever it is.
That is why you get rejected.
Asking a woman to sit down for a cup of coffee is one of the preferred type of first meetings... if they like coffee. Maybe they prefer ice cream.
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Moving in
Posted: 9/14/2010 8:24:50 AM
His actions are not matching his words......
You outline quite a few instances that support this... and you expect moving in with him to help?
One definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over expecting the results to change.
This guy SAYS all the right things... then does whatever he wants.
WAKE UP!
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Vegetarians - how do you feel about your SO cooking meat?
Posted: 9/13/2010 10:51:04 PM
The way the average pharmacy tells you to dispose of expired/unwanted medications is... flush em.
Thats actually one of the worst ways to dispose of them because many DO NOT break down in the processing at the water treatment plants. So any medication you flush, you can count on being added to the environment.
This leads to food and water that contains traces of the medications.
Burning without a proper incinerator just sends some medications airborne...
Good luck getting away from it. This stuff is showing up in ALL water supplies in the US.
While some of these substances tend to build up with each link of the food chain (that was the problem with DDT) some will be present in EVERYTHING you eat and mankind is "at the top of the food chain" thus one of the places where anything that builds up will show up.
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Please help me understand how
Posted: 9/11/2010 11:43:10 PM
Its called getting used.
It happens.
You can find many examples of it on Judge Judy, People's Court and other TV court shows... one person USES the other , usually leeching a lot of cash, and... there is no LEGAL way to deal with it.
Unfortunately when I give my complete opinion about the leeches that treat others this way the posts get deleted.
Its not your fault that he was pond scum...
But I bet there were warning signs that you ignored.
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what do you call a male cougar?
Posted: 9/11/2010 11:37:31 PM
How much younger are you talking about?
My last ex is 15 years younger than me and we were together for 7 years. I was 42 and she was 27 when we met.
The numerical age difference in a relationship doesn't matter as much as the emotional age difference for compatibility.
That begs for the question:
Was that 27 yr old woman emotionally advanced or....?
Which was it that caused there to be emotional equity in that relationship?
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Vegetarians - how do you feel about your SO cooking meat?
Posted: 9/10/2010 10:21:58 PM
Since the OP and her live-in seem to be satisfied with thier qrrqngement..
The only reason for her to have started this thread was:
TROLLING
fredhh
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On sharing the costs of dating
Posted: 9/10/2010 12:58:49 AM
Generally... do what works.
OP, it sounds like your guy is content with the way things are being handled financially.
The fact that you are concerned with even the appearance of freeloading means you aren't likely to be seen as a freeloader.
When there is a large disparity in finances then the person with the "larger wallet' would generally end up paying for more.
fredhh
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how do you get over something this hurtful
Posted: 9/9/2010 11:32:01 PM
Sounds more to me like the OP is trying to justify his "actively seeking a relationship" on a dating site...
OK for him to be after "some strange" but his wife better wear a chastity belt, a burka and duct tape her mouth shut...
Sorry... I don't have any sympathy for the OP at all.
fredhh
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Can a true drug addict learn to choose you over drugs?
Posted: 9/9/2010 11:21:42 PM
The addicts who keep "going to rehab" and then going right back to thier addiction when they are out of rehab....
You can just give up on.
Maybe some day they will learn that they are destroying themselves and in the process damaging anyone who tries to care for them. But most of these people never learn.
All you do by "trying to help" them is... enable them to continue thier self destruction in a bit more comfort.
Only when life is miserable enough that they realize they have to get clean PERMANENTLY will they have a chance. If you are providing them food, clothing, shelter.... they probably won't be miserable enough.
You can't change them. Don't even try.
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