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Thread: Do lifetime relationships work anymore?
fredhh
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Do lifetime relationships work anymore?
Posted:
8/13/2009 11:44:40 AM
No. They don't
There is no commitment to MAKE it work any more.
There are women filing for divorce because the guy forgot the date of thier first meeting... or forgot some other essentially MEANINGLESS date.
With that level of "commitment" from women... they wonde why men are "commitmentphobic"?
fredhh
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Tardiness...How long to wait for someone to show up?
Posted:
7/24/2009 5:58:17 PM
Being late is being rude.
So I try to be early.
If you plan ahead and make allowance for bad traffic you'll almost never be late.
Note that the stereotype is for the woman to be the one who is always late... and that one is more true than a lot of other stereotypes.
Many women DEMAND that the guy always be on time then wonder why the guy might be annoyed that she is always 10 to 20 min late.
OP... maybe the guys you are arranging to meet are just figuring you'll be a half our late anyway so there's no point being on time.
Tell them when making the arrngements that if they are 15 min late you'll be gone.
fredhh
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What's up
Posted:
7/16/2009 4:05:28 PM
Whats Up?
The ceiling is up.
That usually means the walls still work.
When I'm outside there will often be something else thats up... Recently its been something travelling 100 mph.
Soon it will be something travelling between 130 and 150 mph...
If I'm out on the lake I most certainly hope my boat is up... because if its not I'll be very wet.
fredhh
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Conditional gifts....
Posted:
7/14/2009 11:42:07 PM
You can't change them from just straight gifts to conditional gifts just because she broke up with you.
Only an engagement ring is typically recognized as a conditional gift and in some states you can't even ask for that back.
Sorry... you'd get laughed out of court if you tried getting the stuff back, even if you went on Judge Judy.
fredhh
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Are women who don't need men likely to ever find one and be happy?
Posted:
7/10/2009 11:05:18 AM
OP... you are asking the wrong question.
The real question is:
Is there any way for a man to actually make a woman happy?
And the answer is:
Not without him acting like a woman.
And then she'll complain about him being gay.
Welcome to reality.
fredhh
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Do guys really think it works when they say....
Posted:
7/8/2009 7:52:08 PM
Have you seen the King of the Hill episode where Boomhower shows Bobby his method of picking up girls?
They go into a shoestore and Boomhower approaches woman after woman with the same cheesy lines. Eventually the line works on one of them.
Put the cheese in front of enough mice and one of them will walk into the trap.
And the type of woman who will respond favorably to the cheesy line is exactly the type the guy using the bait is looking for.
If it doesn't work on you... then you aren't his type...
read, delete, move on.
fredhh
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Boyfriend continues to get on POF behind my back??
Posted:
7/7/2009 9:48:27 PM
Hey OP... you want him off POF?
Delete your profile first.
How the heck are finding out he's on if you aren't?
So its OK for you to play on POF, but not for him?
How do you spell that?
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fredhh
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We're all rich!!! Who knew?!?!?!
Posted:
7/7/2009 10:08:27 AM
I think he's referring to Social Security...
And no, there won't be any left by the time we get ready to retire... I hope your 401K is doing well!
You haven't heard the Democratic party plan?
They want to confiscate all 401 k plans to support Social Security.
http://www.infowars.com/government-to-confiscate-401ks-and-iras-for-mandatory-savings-tax/
Or was that just for the politicians to line thier own pockets?
Note... that infowars site is usually nutjob conspiracy theory...
But even a parnoid moron can get something right occasionally.
fredhh
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Personality Clashes
Posted:
7/7/2009 9:59:00 AM
We've heard the stories of the Democratic campaign adviser married(?) to a Republican campaign adviser - they've made it work,
Bad example... they are both campaign advisors... same job... same mindset.
The job is to tell the politician what to do to get votes... and has no indication of personal beliefs at all.
You may as well have said a Defense lawyer married a Real Estate attourney.
They just do what you pay them to do.
fredhh
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whack jobs! are they on the increase?
Posted:
7/3/2009 2:35:51 PM
No... there have always been about the same proportion of whack jobs to reasonably well adjusted people.
Its just that the whack jobs get more publicity now.
We used to lock a lot of them up in the "funny farms" out of sight.
Now they hold parades and run for Congress.
OK... most who have run for congress for a long time have been whack jobs, of one sort or another, who couldn't support themselves in the real world if you gave them a "Survival for Dummies" book.
2010 elections... vote the bums out.
They are all bums.
Yes, yours is too.
fredhh
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Death and the age of 50....
Posted:
7/2/2009 9:37:19 PM
In the late 1700's the average life expectancy was about 45...
The tradition of "retiring" after working 20 years at one place was partly a celebration of having lived long enough to work that long...
The average life expectancy in the US has been steadilly rising for the past 150 years.
But average means just that...
Benjamin Franklin was rather old when he died. (appx 84 IIRC)
To average with him... some kid died at about age 6.
(OK, thats not WHY the kid died at age 6... but the RESULT is the AVERAGE... 45)
Today we still have SOME kids dieing quite young... but more and more people making it past 80.
our "design life expectancy" according to the Bible is 70.... some last longer... some don't.
Its kind of like "mean time between failures" for computer equipment. Some motherboards "die" within 30 seconds. Most survive for over 5 years... Mean time between failures for some boards is about 4 years.
Everyone has an expiration date... its just not stamped on our foreheads.
fredhh
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To lie or tell the truth
Posted:
7/2/2009 9:20:21 PM
To lie or tell the truth:
Always tell the truth.
If you lie, you have to keep track ofwhich person you told which version of the story to...
Then you have to keep the assorted versions from meeting
Too :censored: much work.
I'm too lazy to lie.
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Regarding the original question about what to tell the guy...
Tell him what the doctor has told you.
Did you see what they told the sole survivor of that plane crash?
"Your mom is OK in the next room."
Her mom is dead... and eventually the girl is going to find out. Its cruel to hide it, especially by lieing to say her mom is fine.
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BTW...
I was told that i would never walk again...
I got up out of the hospital bed and literally kicked the doctor out.
I then called the nurse for pain meds...
Took me 3 months to learn to walk without a cane...
fredhh
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Why men shouldn't write advice columns...
Posted:
7/2/2009 5:12:41 PM
That guy shouldn't be giving car advice...
The first thing you check is if there's gas in the tank.
Amatures...
An you know why mechanics call the warning lights on the dash "idiot lights?"
Let the oil get low enough for the oil light to come on and the light is telling you:
HEY IDIOT YOU RUINED THE ENGINE!
fredhh
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How NOT to Impress Women...
Posted:
7/2/2009 5:08:09 PM
Better that he's holding his trophy buck than showing off his anatomical qualifications.
OP... if you don't like hunting then he's done you a favor with that picture... you won't e-mail him asking for a date and he won't take you hunting for that first date.
fredhh
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Here is a question
Posted:
6/29/2009 10:01:49 PM
When we express our emotions then we get called "wussies"
When we don't we just get ignored.
I'd rather be ignored than called a wussie.
Women want contradictory aspects in thier guy...
They want him to be strong but they also want him to shut up and do what they tell him to do...
They want us to be financially stable... so they can bankrupt us by buying 5000 pair of shoes that they'll never wear.
When women can figure out what they really want then maybe we can figure out how to meet the demand.
Ok... another post with too much reality...
Sorry.
fredhh
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Question on how to tell your date...
Posted:
6/28/2009 5:52:14 PM
No explaination needed.
Order what you think you will eat...
It would possibly lead to your date asking if you wanted more... just say "No, Thanks."
Sometimes I order a Happy Meal... If thats all I want and I want the toy to use as a model plane pilot :p
fredhh
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Would you risk current relationship to date ex?
Posted:
6/28/2009 9:31:45 AM
Your situation adds up to:
He wasn't as serious about his relationship with you as you were.
The guy is playing the field... and you knew it because you knew he was on the dating sites and not listing himself as in a relationship. You accepted his lame excuse rather than seeing the reality behind it.
So your question has no basis in reality. He wasn't risking anything that really mattered to him.
fredhh
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Question for woman about dating after a break up
Posted:
6/28/2009 9:16:53 AM
Posted By: stargazer2k
I am curious about something. If a woman doesn't like a guy and breaks up with him, why would she be angry if I dated? SHe told me that a person should wait a "MONTH" before the relationship should be considered over! What are all your thoughts on this?
Tell the woman that she may not be over you, but you are well done with her.
She sounds like she wants to own you even though she doesn't want to go out with you. Definitely she needs to get over herself.
A guy that acted like that would be called a stalker.
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Edit add:
Sometimes I just think she wants m e close by to get back together if she wants that. We have broke up many many times. And end up getting back together.
This changes things a bit.... Your on-again off-again relationship history promotes her idea that maybe its never really over.
fredhh
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Things to do on a long Airplane ride.
Posted:
6/27/2009 8:15:29 PM
Your topic needs to be renamed:
How to spend the rest of your life in Leavenworth.
subtitle: If you don't get shot first
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Penitentiary,_Leavenworth
fredhh
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Why does a guy leave his profile up...
Posted:
6/26/2009 8:19:58 AM
We leave them up to see how long it will be before you start trolling the dating site again and complain about seeing our profile.
You want him to take his profile down... delete yours first.
fredhh
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What does a guy mean by profile showing wanting dating
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6/25/2009 3:38:46 PM
It means that how he acted was not matching what he said on his profile.
Now why would that not be suprising?
The guy was married 17 years and at 5 months of separation (did the divorce go through yet?) he's unlikely to have fully dealt with the breakup.
In essence... he has no clue what he wants yet.
fredhh
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Men over 50 what do you do?
Posted:
6/23/2009 12:35:02 PM
Guys realize that wrinkles are just part of getting older... and we don't care.
You have a choice:
Over the hill or under it.
Over the hill means you've finished climbing and you can coast.
Quit sweating the stuff you can't control.
fredhh
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Man Laws
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6/16/2009 4:29:14 PM
Posted By: mozard
number 25 only applies if you have done any work of your own on your car
Note that changing the oil does not count as working on the car.
We all know that changing oil is just an excuse to go through a case of beer.
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts10663527.aspx
fredhh
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Alternate 404 universes.
Posted:
6/11/2009 5:54:06 PM
Nerds think about it....
Geeks get it done.
But "it" is usually building a robot, computer or other "nerdly" thing...
If a geek is lucky, whatever he makes will result in him getting so rich that it doesn't matter if he's a geek.
Case in point: Bill Gates.
fredhh
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When does few extra lbs become BBW?
Posted:
6/11/2009 5:48:38 PM
An oft asked question... with no really good answer.
The US statistical "average" is now more than a few extra pounds... (for both men and women)
So actually you can fit average and few extra pounds at the same time.... Its possible you can even truthfully put average and fit the lower end of BBW/BBM because the "average" range in the US is getting there.
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So.. pick your label... and post a pic.
But don't go without a pic, claim to be 5'4" 120 lbs and show up for the first meet being obviously 4'5" and 210.
Your "date" will notice...
If you can't be trusted about your height and weight... which will be obvious... you can't be trusted at all.
fredhh
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What Irritates Women
Posted:
6/11/2009 1:46:41 PM
The toilet seat:
Men need it up... most of the time... sometimes we need it down
We don't complain about having to put it up....
And we look before we sit. If its up and we need it down, we put it down.
How hard is that?
Or it could be like my house... I have to shut the lid or the cat falls in... stupid cat. 7 years old and it still hasn't learned.
Go ahead and sit without looking...
fredhh
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What is Hell?
Posted:
6/10/2009 9:49:28 PM
Hell is martyring yourself for the cause at a young age, arriving in heaven and discovering that your "72 doe-eyed virgins"
The reference to "72 virgins" does not promise that they are human... or female.
So there is no reason for the "martyr" to expect them to be anything other than... goats.
(change the animal to whatever you want)
fredhh
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an old ladyfriend,was by gf for 3 weeks needs money for....
Posted:
6/10/2009 9:37:19 PM
{she} has borrowed over 4,ooo pounds in the last 10 years-all unrepaid.
And you are even CONSIDERING "lending" more?
You obviously have "SUCKER" tattooed on your forehead...
fredhh
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Explain why this happens,for ten pints??lol
Posted:
6/9/2009 5:16:59 PM
Or maybe the frog becomming a prince is just a fairy tale...
Sorry, but the Disney cartoon-movies never show reality.
All they do is make people THINK that perfection is out there, when perfection is a myth.
fredhh
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He told me he loved me and then went numb.
Posted:
6/8/2009 9:58:50 AM
Its called fear....
In the US its pretty normal for a guy to get taken to the cleaners in a divorce... and progressing further in your relationship would have led to marriage.
The guy quite likely got financially nailed to the wall in his previous divorce and while things looked good for your relationship there was always that memory hanging in the background.
Thats going to be a problem a divorced man is likely to have to deal with in a new relationship.
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there are other ways that the potential fear can show up.
The first marriage happened with 2 people who claimed they wanted it to last forever... it didn't. Something drove them apart and it was either something they didn't see but already existed, or one of them "changed".
fredhh
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I actually met a nice a guym I might have screwed it up!
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6/2/2009 10:41:23 PM
The old joke is:
For a woman to keep a guy's interest she needs to show up naked with beer... and a TV set to football implanted in her belly.
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OP:
Just enjoy being with a guy who isn't just after you to get you in bed...
If he suggests going out and doing something you haven't tried... such as mini golf or bowling or canoeing or even riding go-carts.... do it. You might like it.
fredhh
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im cofused and i need some advices please guys
Posted:
6/2/2009 10:26:05 PM
This is a text based forum.
We see the text and we can only make an evaluation based on that text.
When the text is garbled compared to what is considered normal, it leads to an assumption of someone lacking education or lacking ability to learn...
(Ignorance is cureable.... get a book)
People who are hearing impared DO have the option to read books that are written in the way that people who are not hearing impaired "speak". The vast majority of all written communication follows the standardized "normal" form.
For someone to claim they want to be a teacher and not be able to write a comprehensible sentence... makes me shudder.
I don't care if they can hear or not.
Fine, they "speak" in a different manner than they NEED to write.
Most people speak differently from how they write.
It used to be common for people to use BETTER grammar in the way they write than in the way they speak.
Now its getting close to even.
If its the norm in schools for the hearing impaired to teach people to write like the OP does... those schools need to be fixed.
Poor writing skills will impair the students' lives.
What is one of the most common things needed when applying for a job?
A Resume.
If you can't write in a comprehensible manner, its going to severely degrade your chance to get a good job.
So... Its actually HELPING the OP to point out that she NEEDS to improve her writing skills.
I'm sorry that the truth can hurt some people's feelings.
But this is the truth.
And... no, my writing wouldn't escape my High School English teacher's red pen.
(its gotten much worse since I started writing on on-line forums...)
But I'm not the one wanting to be a teacher.
fredhh
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Real or Fiction?
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6/2/2009 7:22:12 PM
If you have to ask if its real... it probably isn't.
Works for most things.
It even works for:
"Genuine Faux Diamonds"
Whoever came up with that advertising oxymorn thought the average person is an idiot...
(sometimes I think he was right)
Yes... I had the "post too short"message agaion... and had to come up with something to fill space.
fredhh
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whats wrong?
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6/2/2009 7:19:17 PM
Bette pictures
(without even looking... its ALWAYS about the pictures...)
If your pictures are not appealing to the type of guy you are after... he won't get down to the text.
Sorry ladies... thats the way most men are. (many women are the same... but usully its NOT as important for women to see pictures as it is for men.)
We are visual creatures... we want to SEE what we are "persuing"
fredhh
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can life really get to hectic?
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6/2/2009 7:15:16 PM
Obviously he didn't think you had as great "chemistry" as you believe.
If he did... you'd be sitting on the couch in his living room (or maybe in some other room engaging in other activity) instead of sitting alone in front of the computer writing about how great he WAS and why you want him back...
Reality check.
fredhh
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girl looking for respectful Christian guy.....
Posted:
6/2/2009 7:12:15 PM
OP:
Fine...
Put it in your profile where it belongs.
I'm amazed that this thread survived the 7/10 vote. The first post violates several forum rules.
fredhh
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Married Woman? Fact or Fiction? Is There really one?
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6/1/2009 8:30:19 PM
Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... Jerry.
Op.. send your story into his show... he wants you , your BF, his other GF and her hubby on his show.
Let the folding chairs fly.
fredhh
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How soon?
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6/1/2009 11:04:28 AM
Well the first (most blatant of several) issue I see:
If you have a "friend" who will "shag" your BF... are they really your friend?
If you can't trust your "friends"... you need different freinds.
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ALSO... if your BF will "shag" that less than trustworthy friend... you need a different BF.
Because you can't trust that loser either.
fredhh
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PARENTS and Boyfriends dont mix
Posted:
6/1/2009 10:57:39 AM
Well... it seems like its the girl's parents JOB to disaprove of the boyfriend...
In other words.... its NORMAL.
The worst nightmare of a guy is for his daughter to date someone who is just like he was.
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If you don't like your parents' house rules... you have the option to go find your own place and pay rent.
EVEN IF YOU PAY RENT in your parents house... they are still your parents and they are still going to impose some rules.
fredhh
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Trust or Respect
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6/1/2009 10:51:14 AM
I agree with Landra...
If there is a "couples" activity that your "Significant Other" enjoys... you should do your best to enjoy it with them.
If you can't stand that activity... then friction will develop just as described in the OP and/or Landra's post.
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Its NORMAL for a couple to have a few activities they don't share.
Men fish, hunt or do all kinds of things that women GENERALLY tend to NOT enjoy.
OK... guys should go do some of that with other guys.... or alone if thats the way you like your "fishing"
Women have thier activities that they enjoy that men don't GENERALLY like.
OK... women should go do that stuff together... or alone if thats how they enjoy it.
"Guy time" or "Girl's night out" is FINE.
But a couple's activity NEEDS to be participated in WITH YOUR PARTNER.
(even if you don't like it as much as they do...)
This "cuts both ways."
fredhh
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Shopping?
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5/28/2009 8:59:14 PM
OP...
Your example is EXACTLY why men hate going to the women's clothing store with a woman.
If we take a woman to a restaurant she always wants to know what we are going to get before she makes her choice... and she never picks the same thing as we get. (but in this case at least we get the steak/hambuger/taco that we wanted)
Ifwe go to the grocery store with a woman... she'll ask us about all kinds of products... and not buy ANY that we say we like...
The woman asks what the man thinks... then does exactly the opposite.
But if she asks someone ELSE about something... she'll do exactly what they recommend... even if it means buying hot pink spandex pants and she's 300 lbs... (There should be a law against spandex.)
All it does is make us:
Confused
Angry
Frustrated
So... why go?
fredhh
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I still dont get it...
Posted:
5/28/2009 8:39:29 PM
OP... Very simply:
You got involved with a jerk.
File for child support.
Take good care of your baby.
Hopefully the next guy you get involved with won't be a jerk...
fredhh
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Confused Men
Posted:
5/26/2009 9:32:36 AM
Definition of "A confused man"
Any man who is trying to understand a woman.
We are ALL confused... get used to it.
messages this short...
How long do they have to be already?
This is really annoying...
Other people can post a 10 character message...
I have to write a book.
fredhh
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Would you want to know?
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5/15/2009 7:18:08 AM
Since the special needs child will influence a lot of your life, that means any relationship you have will be affected.
Even f you were just trying to find someone to regularly go play cards with, your scheduling is affected.
So, anyone you are dating will need to know that you have the special needs child.
And yes, you are going to find that its going to "chase off' a lot of guys... But if they are chased off by your commitment to your child, then they aren't worth your time anyway.
fredhh
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Should I just give up on him?
Posted:
5/14/2009 11:24:05 PM
OP... just the thread title is needed to give an answer.
You would not be asking the question if you didn't really think that its time to give up.
This is a case of:
Asking permission.
You are asking permission to carry through on something you have already decided you WANT to do.
(not reading your whole LONG post) You are either asking permission to give up and move on... or permission to persue something that you deep down believe is a dead end.
Again...
Just the fact that you felt the need to ask if you should give up on a relationship means the relationship is almost certainly doomed.
fredhh
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So He Removes ALL His Favorites - ?
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5/14/2009 11:18:04 PM
Favorite list is absolutely useless here... Its too easy to accidentally add someone.
EG:
If you vote on pictures (never have to look at the profile to do that) any picture you vote higher than a 7 can have that person added to your list. (making the picture voting useless and annoying also)
Someone can add you to thier list and they automatically are added to yours. Some people think its a contest to get the longest list and just add randomly.
Just by looking at a profile due to reading a forum post and wanting to see more about the person who wrote it (even doing profile reviews), it occasionally adds that profile to my favorites.
So, I never (purposefully) add anyone...
And occasionally I clear the list.
fredhh
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Why are so many in such a hurry to meet...?
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3/25/2009 1:15:20 AM
Meeting at Starbucks or Baskin Robbins is not going at warp speed...
Its finding out if the person matches the description they posted.
I had one case that was so blatant that it was comical.
She claimed 5'4" 120 lbs... she was 4'5" (if that tall) and at least 250 lbs. ( a walking beach ball.. red-white stripes and all)
If they are going to be that dishonest about something so obvious... what can you trust them about?
fredhh
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How do you know it's time for the sex?
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3/22/2009 11:36:16 PM
different criteria for differnt people...
Some men want the woman to show up naked with a 6-pack of beer for the first date.
Some are willing to wait till after the preacher says his bit...
And most fit somewhere in between.
fredhh
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Why do men go quiet
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3/21/2009 2:08:00 PM
His wife found his POF account.
His gay lover found his POF account
He had a heart attack or stroke.
The FBI finally caught him. (His nickname on the Most Wanted List was Jeffery Junior)
"HE" was atually a 12 yr old and his mom found his POF account.
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Pick one or make up your own.
fredhh
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Wild & Crazy Folks
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3/20/2009 12:18:09 AM
When someone can't work the coffe maker (or fails any other simple task...) tell them:
You must be smarter than the equipment you are operating.
In this case it has no intelligence.
You lose.
MISERABLY.
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