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Thread: Has anyone ever questioned the abuse.
angelheart3
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Has anyone ever questioned the abuse.
Posted:
4/27/2009 5:20:03 PM
Was wondering if anyone ever got out of an emotional/verbal/physically abusive relationship and even after healing, lets say a year or so still questioned whether they were the reason and cause of the abuse.
Not AFTER healing.
If they had done things differently might things have been different.
Anyone can effect a change in any situation by doing something different. However, no one can affect whether that change is for the better or for the worse.
Fear obliation and guilt that is laid on them.
Bull. Pure BS. Cannot sell anyone a bill of goods they aren't willing to buy.
Never the less, has anybody ever had to fight through this?
Only the morality aspect of divorce. Marriage vows (back then anyway) were for better or worse until death do us part.
angelheart3
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Trouble getting over the 'Emotional Abuser' ...
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3/30/2009 4:29:17 AM
Msg. 40 Kudos for the courage it took to write your post. Not too many emotional abusers IME ever take ownership for their abuse.
His issues and abuse had nothing to do with you and are not your fault.
OP - your prescription is to repeat those words every day until you believe them. On day 7, add another prescription to the current, repeating that you cannot fix his issues until you believe that too.
Signed: Doctor Life.
angelheart3
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Relationship with someone who is disabled?
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3/25/2009 5:14:10 PM
But there are people who work everyday who may have a disabled child, and because they make $1.00 over some arbitrary "income limit", they can get no financial or medical help for their disabled child.......even while they continue to pay into the system....that's not fair!
No, it isn't fair. Yet, when encountering unfairness, one really has two choices:
1. Go along with it
2. Take a stand and do something about it. Now it makes not make any difference at all in the person's situation, but if it makes a difference going forward to others in the same situation? Isn't it worth fighting for?
angelheart3
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Relationship with someone who is disabled?
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3/25/2009 9:55:48 AM
IN a single split second my sons life changed forever and this can happen to anyone.
It most assuredly can and did for me.
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/24/2009 12:15:13 PM
Actually the stories of Jesus state quite clearly that he hung-out with prostitutes and theives... and I doubt that he was constantly nagging them.
Yes, He did [EDIT]walk with them (no,He did not nag them). [close EDIT]Jesus did much more than that actually. He met people at the level of their need. He was also quite clear about His opinions of the organized church at that time.
Actually, I have found that the most moral people I have met have been people who have steered away from institutionalized religions, that would be agnostics, and self professed spiritual types.
No argument from me on that observation. I don't consider Christianity itself a "religion". I consider the Christian-based organized religions that claim Christianity to be their beliefs to be anything but reflective of Jesus Christ. Those are man-made creations, not God-inspired relationships. However, even though the very term "Christian" carries with it a very negative association, I don't care. I am not going to deny that element of who I am. I don't consider myself an Agnostic.
To be blunt, in the course of my lifetime, it wasn't the church that tangibly helped me when I needed tangible help. Pretty sad, I think. Even sadder when Christians are judging people to hell, fire and damnation for not believing in God, yet without accountability to themselves for not feeding a brother when he was hungry, or visiting a friend in hospital, etc. Well, I have yet to see anywhere in the Bible that anyone but God was qualified for the position of Judge.
However, there is a share of accountability that flows the other way. The "Christian" or other religious affiliated person is as human as the "non-believer" so when judgment is crammed down someone's throat for not believing, it is that person who is passing judgment the offense is with, not the collective "church". Yet, in practice, who is any better? The Christian who crams judgment down the atheist's throats? Or the atheist that condemns all Christians on the basis of the actions of a few?
Neither is better than the other, and neither is justified. How sad is that? Jesus would be rolling in His grave, if He had one, over how perverted His teachings have become.
angelheart3
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Her Ex is around more than me!
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3/24/2009 5:49:11 AM
His idea of seeing them is to show up, unanounced and it causes problems with her and I!
Why is it causing problems between you and her? This is a matter between her and the ex and it is up to her deal with non-compliance of the visitation and support orders.
Should i look to his Sargent ect...
Nope...you stay out of it except to be SUPPORTIVE and ENCOURAGING to her. She's in a tough spot with the ex being a deputy, as the nature of the "beast" is to be authoritative, etc. However, you forcing the issue with her is compounding the problem. Safe bet that she is afraid of him and his threats.
At the end of the day, she is the one who needs to bring the non-compliance back into court. She is the one that needs to involve the proper authorities (yeah, I know - an oxymoron almost) when he threatens and such, such as internal affairs but she best be sure she has solid documentation.
He has her between the rock and the hard place and it almost sounds like you do as well. Let her breath a little, will ya?
AH3................
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/21/2009 10:42:08 PM
desertrhino...have a few more...you're on a roll!
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/21/2009 10:38:04 PM
Hey angel, don't waste your time with those two.
Not a waste of my time actually, as I am not trying to convince them of anything. Merely entertainment watching the ahem a**l retentiveness reach new levels. It's further a curious observation in that the main troll never quite directly responds to any challenge, rather - dances around it. Always interesting to observe this "element" in action.
Reality is based on subjective perception, specifically yours, mine and ours.
Reality exists objectively, but is observed and experienced subjectively.
Precisely. Comparable concept to there are three sides to every story: yours, mine and the truth. Some wanna-be adults never quite make it past "mine" to hear "yours" so "we" can get to the "truth".
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/21/2009 9:35:37 PM
explains a lot...
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/21/2009 9:17:58 PM
Speaking of nonsense statements:
Perhaps there are various imperfect INTERPRETATIONS of the Reality that *is*, based on imperfect understanding, but there's just one Reality.
All semantics set aside, whether you want to argue versions of reality or interpretations of a single reality - bottom line is the same. Since you insist on the use of INTERPRETATIONS,
which of you is going to play the "non-existent god", deciding on which INTERPRETATION is the valid one?
Speaking of nonsense...hilarious that you and intoart have the audacity to critique others for their beliefs, yet you both suffer from the very same perceived malady that you belittle in others. It isn't faith or beliefs you Id**ts are refuting, only what is believed in that is not in line with what you respectively define as "reality" - a very distorted reality at that.
Yeah...nonsense alright...your own. I find it all quite amusing actually.
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/21/2009 7:15:41 AM
Before you can claim that consciousness arises "in a different plane", you must prove that there is such a thing as "a different plane".
I dunno, intoart...
...seems to me that your concept of reality is proving the poster's point you quoted:
What is this evidence?
I don't believe that consciousness is centered in the brain (even in the living). I believe that consciousness resides in a different plane altogether, one that is primordial to this one.
...quite well , particularly if you are going to demand that the quoted poster prove to your satisfaction that different planes exist.
Of course, since you have intentionally chosen to avoid acknowledging reality
Well, speaking as an observer, perhaps the more accurate statement would be acknowledging your version of reality?
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/19/2009 8:21:58 AM
On the other hand, those of us who were raised with logic and reason have no need of faith at all.
On the contrary, as logic and reason are not physical objects that you can touch, feel, hear, or see, and actually are concepts, a degree of faith that your logic and reason is accurate does in fact have relevance.
By the way, what makes you so sure that your logic and reason is more accurate than anyone else's? Seriously.
How is your reliance on scientific conclusions that presumably you did not actively participate in at the time these conclusions were formed, or perform the experiments and such yourself not inclusive of faith?
Logically, if you are relying on someone else's "work" as a basis for your conclusions, then you have faith that the findings have been accurately reported.
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/18/2009 4:46:03 PM
FYI, my father let us decide whether or not to believe in Judaism. He merely gave us a decent education, and let us decide for ourselves. Unfortunately for many, they just don't have the tenacity for holding onto questions and not letting go until they have a satisfactory solution. Often, people just guess, and then try to demand that everyone else's views are fiction. In psychology, we call that a superiority bias.
My father did the same with me, scorp - decent education, many good brainercise debates actually, and let us make our own decisions.
I have found more often than not that the people who project themselves as superior are generally followers who are leader wanna-bees, yet are incapable of leadership as they settle for the easy out. Oh, that's been said only differently!
angelheart3
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married boyfriend trouble
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3/18/2009 9:43:08 AM
OP...I haven't read the other responses, so I hope this hasn't been said.
Separated anyone is not a good relationship risk. However, if you are looking for emotionally detached and commitment-proof (as in not going to require commitment from you as he can't offer it) in a man...hey go for it.
However, odds favor that you will do the "repair" work, and when he is ready for "real" again, it won't be with you.
The blunt truth.
angelheart3
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Child abuse statute of limitations question
Posted:
3/18/2009 9:13:58 AM
When the secular state, and most secular people, start becoming rational about abuse, and acknowledge that they and others of their ilk, have enabled such abuse, and even encouraged such abuse, by not addressing the abuse that they could have dealt with, and act rationally in regards to religious groups, to blame the abuser and not everyone else, and to act like that is the case, I am 90% sure that religious groups will actively prosecute every abuser in their midst, because they will have nothing to fear from doing so.
I gotta go with Scorp on the above.
Now, my personal thoughts. There frankly should not be a statute of limitations. I am speaking as the mother of a child who was molested, and as the daughter of a father who was molested by a priest during a time in our society that such things were never even uttered.
Regardless of "when" such person discloses the abuse, there has to be a means of accountability imposed on the abuser. Now, I recognize that this is a hot issue with a lot of variables. I personally would prefer to see criminal accountability with limitations on civil accountability to whatever is necessary to afford the victim whatever the victims needs in the interest of recovery from the abuse in order to restore as much as is humanly possible, a "normal" life. That though would include restitution and compensation for any and all expenses incurred relative to therapy and medical interventions that could reasonably be attributed to the original abuse.
I do not think it is rational for victim survivors to be able to benefit from hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars, simply on the basis of being abused. I could go with a reasonable financial award, but not over the top as seems to be the case with human nature. In my mind, over the top compensation is comparable to getting paid after the service was rendered. I don't mean that to be insulting but there is no pretty way to say it.
However, that any group or individuals would diminish a victims rights to cover their own backsides is unconscionable. In cases where there is cover up, obstruction of justice and so forth? I absolutely would support substantial penalties to be paid to the victims, in addition to all parties involved serving time - no matter who they are or how big their church is.
angelheart3
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Morality and Faith
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3/18/2009 3:06:42 AM
The world would be a better place without religion (though eliminated by attrition,not violent supression, of course.)
How is the above any better than this?
The religious even think it's moral to tell someone they must believe the same thing they do or they will burn for all of eternity. Aren't threats immoral?
Frankly, the Unreligious are NO better.
Or…this?
Those who are indoctrinated with morality never learn to think for themselves, and thus never develop the ability to be ethical. (That is just one of the many harmful things that religion does.) Since they are also raised to believe in lies, religious people also never develop the critical thinking skills necessary to distinguish fact from fantasy.
Wow…talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
I know this seems like a contradiction to you. But it does to every 2 year old. But a lot of 6 year olds understand that sometimes you must eat, like at mealtimes, and sometimes you mustn't eat, like when you sleep, or before a major operation. I hope that you attend primary school soon.
Doesn’t primary school require weaning first?
Um, I am in school... I know for a fact that those who are religious lack critical thinking skills to be able to discern fact from fiction.
I highly recommend a change in schools for a more balanced education. Plus, isn't it sort of playing God to assume categorically everyone who is religious lacks critical thinking skills? Actually, in some circles, even atheism is considered to be a religion. How does that fit in with lack of critical thinking skills?
angelheart3
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empty feelings
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3/17/2009 6:38:45 PM
I agree with Quicksilver. OP - what you describe is not a normal reaction for lack of a better terminology. Perhaps start with your primary care physician, to make sure there isn't anything physically contributing.
angelheart3
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How to get over this
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3/16/2009 9:29:32 PM
That's all it took for you to start drinking? Sounds like she missed a bullet.
Naw...she dodged a torpedo!
angelheart3
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How to get over this
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3/16/2009 2:24:56 PM
Maybe I forgot to tell you guys that I have may have OCB (Obsessive-compulsive disorder).
So what? You still have a brain capable of making choices...don't you?
This is why I can't simply "just get over it."
Hogwash.
Well if I haven't met her I wouldn't be drinking this much.
Hogwash.
This has made me drink more, since I have been feeling this way for over a month now.
Hogwash.
I know it was my choice
Call the police!! A smidgeon of reality!
but that's because I was having endless dreams and flashbacks, and have not dealt with anything like this before.
You aren’t dealing with it yet, if truth be told.
good call, but I dont have a therapist and wont get one either.
Right. So you tap into the POF forum therapy to feed your denial and avoid responsibility for your own “stuff”.
I just would like to speak to her one last time, if you know how I feel.
From a woman’s perspective? If even a hint of what has been displayed in this thread revealed itself to her, best you move along. If I were in her shoes? I’d be yelling stalker, as you won’t stop at one phone call any more than you stop at one drink by your own admission.
Kick away the labels – too handy an excuse.
AH3.....................................
angelheart3
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How to get over this
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3/15/2009 6:15:22 PM
yes this girl has pretty much everything to do with my drinking.
I guess if you want an excuse to drink, it's as good as any.
Let's see, I can visualize it now. She either tied you up or handcuffed you in such a manner that no way could you ever stop her from doing the unthinkable!! Taking a funnel and just pouring that alcohol down your throat. Oh and of course, you had to swallow it, right? I mean, had you not swallowed, ya mighta choked!
Oh wait! She isn't there with you...my bad, I must have misread the OPoster's posts.
I am actually not making light of the situation. Someone has a serious case of
denial.
angelheart3
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Age/Maturity Level
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3/10/2009 5:33:02 PM
mycroft1974 - he tried. However, without a reversal of the conviction - an exercise in futility in civil court. The burden of proof is on the complainant, not the respondent. It didn't help that he was previously a LEO from another state.
angelheart3
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Age/Maturity Level
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3/10/2009 5:22:03 PM
Having a 16yr old I have to tell you if a guy your age showed up wanting to date my daughter even if she was 17 you'd better be prepared for some problems that wouldn't be good for your physical wellbeing.
Actually, along those lines - I had an acquaintance who remains a registered sex offender after he "dated" a girl he reportedly believed to be 20 (she looked it), who turned out to be 16 - who's parents found out about him dating her- she cried rape to cover her backside = his life is ruined. While he didn't serve jail time, he was on probation for 10 years with the little black box. Oh, the girl later recanted and even wrote to the judge (as did her parents) in an effort to vacate the verdict. No appeal/no vacating the verdict.
Just thought I'd throw that in for consideration. Wait until she's 18.
angelheart3
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How to make emotion bond better with bf?
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3/10/2009 2:51:07 PM
Ditto to Landra's post.
The histrionics are becoming legendary fast and furious.
ah3.................
angelheart3
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3/10/2009 10:03:38 AM
Unlikely that her dad would "buy into" the reported "yum" factor when the subject "yummy" is daddy's little girl.
angelheart3
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What does Friends First really mean?
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3/10/2009 9:48:53 AM
katerra,
I'm not so sure the "problem" is that men or women aren't willing to put in the time to get a true relationship going, more a distortion of expectations. If anything, our society has become so accustomed to "instant gratification" that this expectation has carried over into relationships.
I mean, just browse the forums anywhere relative to dating/relationships. People put more thought into purchasing a home or a vehicle than they do in relationship choices, yet come into the dating pool with the approach of ordering meal from a menu. Then it's a matter of choosing between fast food or a full course meal. YIKES!
Somewhere along the line, it seems that "relationship", a process, became convoluted with an "event" that just happens. NOT.
JMHO
ah3...................................
angelheart3
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Age/Maturity Level
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3/10/2009 8:21:58 AM
dubO8 - I think the "yum" the OP included in his opening post certainly indicated an interest beyond platonic friends...wouldn't you agree?
Legal age (i.e. no longer a minor) is 18, per OP the young lady is 17.
angelheart3
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3/10/2009 8:07:51 AM
Call it C.Y.A. - wait until she is 18.
angelheart3
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What does Friends First really mean?
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3/10/2009 7:57:58 AM
Good question OP.
For me, it's a deterrent and a much more PC way of setting the expectation that I am not interested in getting laid in exchange for the man paying for the date. Also, it's a great deterrent for the "oh you are soooo gorgeous sweetie, I am so in love with you...blah blah blah" emails which are an insult to basic intelligence. Bluntly stated.
As to who pays? Who cares? Isn't that a private matter between the two people?
As for touchy feely? Again, a private matter between the two people.
By the way, how can any two people be in a mutually satisfying and healthy relationship without being friends as well?
ah3...............................................
angelheart3
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Break up and then Make up?
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3/10/2009 7:41:52 AM
So should i forgive and make up, or breakup?
What do you want to do?
If I may be so bold, your narrative almost sounds like you are analyzing the relationship into a hole. Add to that, you come across as more reactive than pro-active.
In any event, it does take two to tango and if it isn't workin', then it isn't workin'.
AH3............................................
angelheart3
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can this work at some level?
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3/9/2009 11:37:46 AM
That your radar is up IS a red flag. Hello?
AH3..................
angelheart3
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Broken Hart
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3/9/2009 12:36:19 AM
but in the weekends, when my kids are with their fathers I realize how alone i'm really am.
What about joining up with one of those meetup groups and attend events in your area relative to something that interests you? It's not dating, yet it gets you around adults enjoying what you enjoy. You'd be amazed at how much fun you can have without all the headaches that dating too soon brings you. Shoot, I had a blast with a photography club I belonged to before I moved.
AH3.....................................
angelheart3
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If your into a guy, are you going to pursue, or sit around?
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3/9/2009 12:19:37 AM
I only got a maybe.
A maybe? Oh that won't do. A "maybe" is another way of saying if she has no better offer come along. Uh uh. If a woman is interested, she's not going to give you a "maybe" - well, maybe if she were on call for work or some such thing. She'd tell you if she was though.
In the future, handle a maybe with her calling you IF maybe becomes a definite yes - and NOT at the last minute either. If she doesn't call you with a definite a couple of days in advance, move on. I wouldn't call her in that scenario.
No set place or time means no plans - period. Talking about making plans is not making plans.
AH3..............................................
angelheart3
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Stalkers? How many have you gotten from POF?
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3/9/2009 12:12:17 AM
I've had one stalker, still internet stalking me as of a week ago (after more than two months of completely ignoring his communication attempts), who is currently on POF, yet I didn't meet him through POF. Went to HS with him actually.
I ignore him completely. I consulted with police but did not file any police report as, in order to do that, I would have had to provide my new address. He has connections that could easily access that information on his behalf within MPD. Not worth it given what I know now of this person's last 35 years, how his abuse basically destroyed his ex-wife mentally (whom I met) in addition to clear and convincing evidence of extensive violence in his home of 10 years. I left the state - it was the safer choice.
Maybe he'll meet his female counter-stalker on POF so they can stalk each other.
AH3.............................
angelheart3
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How often does this happen?
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3/8/2009 11:50:26 PM
I just can't help the feeling that I've just been wronged in one way or another
You were wronged, yet you did contribute by putting yourself in the position of being wronged. So, rather than beat yourself up over it - you walk away from the experience with a bit of wisdom.
Just because it feels right does not mean it is a wise choice.
Yep. And that is when uncommon sense becomes invaluable.
AH3.....................
angelheart3
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If your into a guy, are you going to pursue, or sit around?
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3/8/2009 11:44:05 PM
Hmmm...Icelanderguy, if what you're doing is getting undesirable results, then try something different.
Frankly, I do think that it's very respectful of you to make plans a week in advance. Make sure in the body of that plan making that you actually have their commitment to whatever you are planning. It's one thing to say "that sounds great" and another to actually commit to a meeting time and place, or whatever arrangements you both agree to - in that same conversation.
Perhaps the breakdown is confirming a couple of days before that your plans are still a go. It could come across as though you lack confidence, or perhaps expect them to cancel on you (which is the same as lacking confidence).
So, perhaps, once the plans are made - show up as planned. If the woman isn't there or "forgot"...then it's time for NEXT.
AH3........................
angelheart3
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shattered
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3/8/2009 11:36:47 PM
5. G-d don't make junk. You know this. One door closes,and ........ you know the rest.
6. Spend too much time looking at the door that has closed behind you, you'll miss the door that opens in front of you.
Kel...start limiting the time you spend dwelling on this guy. Seriously. As in an hour a day or whatever. Set the timer if need be. Then reward yourself when you can stick to that time (not talking about the occasional sigh...missing the dream, but the intensive thinking about him)...
That helps you put a little more control on your emotions.
AH3.........................
angelheart3
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If your into a guy, are you going to pursue, or sit around?
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3/8/2009 11:24:57 PM
Some do from what I read in the forums.
If I have to chase anyone, then he's not that interested. I would say the reverse would also be true. Yet - there are those that know no other way.
Showing interest? Of course I would show interest when interested. How else would a man know?
Sit around? Depends on the situation. If a man shows interest in me and I am interested in him, but say he has life stuff on his plate and needs space to sort all of that out, I'd give him his space. It's really a judgment call based on the individual situation. But I don't date just to date nor am I looking to order up a relationship from the pond menu either.
However, if by chasing you mean attention - I personally like balanced attention. Too much and it's smothering, not enough and it's questionable whether the interest is really there at all on the man's part.
AH3..............................
angelheart3
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Confused man, please help
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3/8/2009 11:08:52 PM
Run faster than a speeding bullet...
...sounds like t.r.o.u.b.l.e.
Mixed messages = confusion = possible control issues/roller coaster ride = life is too short for all that potential drama.
Actually - you already have drama. Much less costly to rent a dvd.
angelheart3
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i know muscles have been covered but i have to ask
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3/8/2009 10:16:38 PM
What few body builders I have encountered, one actually being my sister - just not attracted to the personality and attitude that sometimes goes along with the muscles. I wouldn't rely on my opinion though, as it's not exactly objective.
Maybe it's not so much the muscles but the anticipated expectation that a man with a near perfect body might expect a woman with a near perfect body? I didn't look at your age - but that is a possibility.
AH3.........................................
angelheart3
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How often does this happen?
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3/8/2009 7:35:59 PM
I'm at a lost at how someone can be that cruel to trick another for sex and then up and leave.
No one can "trick" the unwilling. My point? You can either think and be a victim in this situation, in which case you set yourself up for a pattern of attracting the same or worse.
Or, you can accept ownership that you willingly participated and evidently enjoyed the sex - with little regard at the time for the potential consequences.
Kick up your self respect a few notches and don't be so quick to "go with the flow" without knowing where that flow is going to go beyond the moment.
AH3...............................
angelheart3
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my ex miss him
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3/8/2009 7:25:21 PM
Paula...
How about loving your children more?
I'm not insensitive to the whole experience of spousal abuse as I am a seasoned veteran myself as a former victim of many years. No excuses and no molly-coddling when it comes to children.
You have lost your children and you still love and miss this idiot? Why aren't you stepping up to get yourself real help so you can actually focus on providing a SAFE home for your children?
So this man who is slandering you all over the web is worth sacrificing your children over? That is what you have done and are continuing to do...while waiting for someone else to step up and do your self-work for you.
DCF will have a plan of care for you to follow to get your children back - for as long as the goal is "return home". At least they did when I served as a C.A.S.A. If you really want your children back, then follow it to the letter and cut this loser loose. As for getting your life back? Stepping off the blame train, stop blowing the whine whistle is a good way to start.
Hopefully it's not too late for your children. You are not off the hook with them, as with that long an involvement with your abuser? You were and are as complicit as he was and is in propagating the abuse.
Get some serious professional help please. Domestic abuse shelters offer support group counseling, also consult with a psychiatrist for medication evaluation, etc. You get your life back by first getting yourself straightened out. Period. Until you do, you are not fit to parent based on what you disclosed in your opening post.
AH3
angelheart3
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Mixed messages?
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3/8/2009 9:58:18 AM
Of course it's personal! It's nothing but personal.
Get a grip. The man doesn't know her well enough for it to be personal in his intentions.
angelheart3
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confused and need some opinions on my date
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3/8/2009 4:29:04 AM
So, why can't he find the time to set up our next real date?
So....why not just ask him?
angelheart3
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Empty
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3/8/2009 4:12:08 AM
I didn't actually start to lose my grip on my reality/identity until this year.
That is concerning. Have you considered consulting with a professional? At a minimum talking to your primary physician? Could be something out of balance metabolically contributing to these feelings.
Just a thought.
angelheart3
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Mixed messages?
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3/8/2009 4:06:21 AM
You met once. You've texted him ideas for the suggested date. Now, leave it alone. If he's interested, he'll be back in touch and if not? It's not personal. Worse thing you can do is "chase" him.
angelheart3
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Getting something off my chest
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3/8/2009 3:37:58 AM
iceman...
hate to say it, but you set yourself up for a fall right here:
We never really officaly said that we're going out, but we would go out least 2 times a week to dinner or just to hang out.
Everything that followed, no matter how much it hurt you, is redundant. Next time you develop such strong feelings for someone? Have "the conversation" to make sure you and her are of the same understanding.
Meanwhile, pick yourself up - dust yourself off - get heart off the floor-grieve the loss-learn from the experience to not assume anything in the future.
angelheart3
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So what works to get over broken heart syndrome
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3/7/2009 12:13:22 PM
Hi cooker11,
As hard as it feels to take steps forward, easiest way is to just do it. If you're not even close to getting over it, then you are not ready to date. However, you can fill your times in other ways. Zany as it sounds, you can even date yourself (i.e. dinner, movie...).
If these feelings persist or worsen:
i can hardly work. What a horrible feeling. No wonder people don't want to open up. I feel like i can not exist unless i go back
then it's time to consult with your doctor, as you may be depressed beyond the scope of the loss of the relationship.
Actually, if your feelings are that frightening to you, can't hurt to talk to your doctor anyway.
JMHO
angelheart3
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How to deal with a bf who's emotionally not there?
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3/5/2009 5:44:17 PM
Plz give me some good advice and no mean critism.
In other words, tell you what you want to hear and park truth in the garage?
No, thank you.
angelheart3
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shattered
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3/5/2009 5:24:38 PM
Kel...how would knowing the "why" help? Hon - you didn't do anything wrong. It feels that way when someone "poofs" like that, sure it does. Still, you did not do anything wrong.
We ask ourselves if we said something wrong, or maybe should have dressed differently and so on. Still, nothing you could have done differently that would have changed the outcome here. Nothing at all.
Don't agonize over this guy. Have a good cleansing cry, a healthy dose of chocolate, and whatever else makes you feel better. Just don't get stuck on that "crazy-making why".
I highly recommend chocolate. Amazing healing properties for heartbreak.
angelheart3
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How to deal with a bf who's emotionally not there?
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3/5/2009 1:59:30 PM
I know alot of my family members act mean and violent. But when sober are actually really nice people.
OP - NewsFlash! This is NOT healthy. H*ll, I have yet to encounter (business or personal) a drunk who wasn't a really nice person when he was sober. That does NOT justify the mean and violent acts when he is drunk. Period.
I think you don't want a change. I think you are trying to re-write an old script to have a happy ending, only - it isn't going to happen.
Anyway, your life to throw away or not.
Tell you what...here is a challenge. Search the thread topics for domestic abuse or violence, the mind of the abuser and so on. A glimpse into your future, should you continue on your current path. Then please find another counselor, for your benefit.
AH3............................
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