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 Author Thread: Bad in the sack
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Bad in the sack
Posted: 10/17/2009 12:44:28 PM


Msg: 16 -- Im wondering what is classed as bad in bed, totally off the
back of another thread I read.


"Bad in bed" is in the eye of the beholder. If one person fails to
enjoy the experience, then the other can be accused of being "bad in
bed". If BOTH enjoyed the experience, then BOTH were GOOD.

Note that I stress here the ENJOYMENT of the experience, and NOT
whether one or both partners have an orgasm. My BEST encounter
occurred when I had NO orgasm. But in spite of my claims, the woman
involved wanted nothing further to do with me. BTW, even to this day I
can hear her screams of climax, even after the passage of some 35
years.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 33 (view)
 
How do you like to be treated after sex... and how important is it to you?
Posted: 10/3/2009 2:05:33 PM


Msg: 1 -- I had this discussion with a previous boyfriend, and he
asked me something that no other man has ever asked me..... "How do I
like to be treated after having sex?" It was surprising, to say the
least... but it also got me thinking.

I thought of all the ways I have been treated in that time period of
about 30 minutes "after sex".... and what did I prefer?


Hmm, what do *I* prefer, since I control the situation. She KNOWS I
control the experience, so it is MY duty to myself and to her to make
the encounter the most rewarding possible.

My choices, whilst not restricted to the following, CAN follow this
rather intriguing list:



There is the - cuddling and quiet chatting - after you catch your
breath, of course.


This has proven to be a FINE wrap-up.



There is the - one falls asleep and one stares at the ceiling.


This indicates a FAILURE. At a glance, this shows that at least ONE
partner FAILED to satisfy the other. To me, this shows a wasted night.



There is the - they both fall asleep together.


I find this to be confusing, but it could probably be good. I could
read into this that both parties were satisfied and fell asleep due to
well-deserved exhaustion, which is a good thing. But, personally, I
have never had this experience. The woman may have fallen asleep on
me, but I have never fallen asleep on the woman.



There is the - they shower together and play, possibly going for round
two.


I have had this occur, and with pleasurable outcomes.



There is the - one gets up, gets dressed and leaves to go home.


THIS IS AN INSULT!!!! I have NEVER done this, but I have, on rare
occasion, had this insult hurled at me.



I am sure there are a few more too.... what is your experiences?....
what is your preference?


All are listed above, with my preferences included.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 151 (view)
 
Somebody clarify vagina-phobia for me
Posted: 9/24/2009 4:22:46 PM
Msg: 7 -- Sex and sexual endeavors is a two way street.

DUH?!? Since when has it EVER been OTHER than a "two way street"? Hmm,
umm, I mean OUTSIDE of "Sharia" and OUTSIDE of ANY possible conceived
possible deprivation of pleasure for the woman.

If he doesn't "flick or lick the bean" then don't do him any favors.

Huh? Say what? I mean, does THIS actually have to be SAID? OK,
admittedly my statements involve TWO who SUPPOSEDLY *LOVE* each other,
and therefore may seem excessive for those involved in a one-night
stand.

But, PLEASE bear with me that I have NO sympathy for those who
continually involve themselves within trash relationships designed NOT
to last beyond the week, not to mention the lifetime.

OTOH, should the man actually CARE for the woman, he will soon realize
what is going on and start being a little more compassionate towards
your needs.

If not. Tell him your going to get it somewhere else. Then if he loves
you, he will "bow down when he comes to your town"

Those of you women who consider yourself "liberated" or "feminist",
PLEASE review this in your "native tongue".

Note that I have criticized NEITHER the "Liberated" NOR the "Feminist"
view. All I have done is challenge that which **I** consider natural.

From this, I derive TWO laws. The woman derives HER control from HER
**CHOSEN** ***HUSBAND***!!!!

How can THIS be from a "Sad To Trust" Home Trust?
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 150 (view)
 
Somebody clarify vagina-phobia for me
Posted: 9/24/2009 3:50:14 PM


Msg: 5 -- Edit - just a thought - do you think he may be turned off by
the fact you play with girls?


I can't answer that for her or her bf, but that WOULD be a TURNOFF for
me. I am STRICTLY "bifocal", one eye toward her and the other toward
me. A "trifocal" relationship involves a THIRD party, and THAT creates
JEALOUSY. FWIW, Jealousy KILLS any sexual interest in ANY woman who
seems up to task at the time of consideration. I am EXTREMELY old
fashioned, which means the woman of my interest shows EXCLUSIVE
interest in me, and I, in turn, show EXCLUSIVE interest in her. Beyond
that, I can think of NO clearer relationship rules. **I** abide by
them. Should I find a woman who FAILS to abide by them, her very
failure of such AUTOMATICALLY terminates my interest in her.

I am at present single. However, I OWN the woman who expresses
interest in me. If she disagrees, her sole option is to DISAGREE with
my opinion, which in turn DISSOLVES any presumed association. At that
point, she has TOTALLY destroyed any interest I may have had in her
and therefore is free to pursue any pleasure she desires. She will no
longer connect with me.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 97 (view)
 
Wife finds porn on computer and....
Posted: 9/24/2009 2:55:27 PM

Msg: 8 -- Even a married man needs to release some tension once in a
while...


HUH!?!?! OK, pardon me for my lack of understanding, but a wife should
be the one most in tune with her husband's fantasies, AND vice versa.
The test of the solidarity of their marriage is how willing they are
to REALIZE each other's fantasies. If such is realized to the CORE of
BOTH partners, the marriage is a success. If either BALKS, the
marriage is a FAILURE.

Hmm, "Even a married man needs to release some tension once in a
while..."?!? What, your WIFE isn't GOOD enough? WTF? Why did you MARRY
her? If you even have to form such a question in your HEAD concerning
your wife, you married the WRONG woman, and I PITY her! SHE married
the WRONG man!!!! The PERFECT matches are the ones who can FREELY give
the gift of "Fantasy Satisfaction" without hesitation. In the, what,
example(?) given, I find "release some tension" to be SADLY lacking in
what I consider to be the ideal mate. A man and his wife should
release their "tensions" between themselves, NOT between EACH and
"SOME OTHER". A marriage is a relationship of CONTINUAL discussion, a
discussion which should NEVER be abandoned for ANY reason. This
discussion should ALWAYS include changing desires, REGARDLESS of the
magnitude of change.

It is to be understood that should such a change REQUIRE an undesired
change of attitude in the MATE, the mate should have the safe haven of
abandoning the relationship due to faulty processing. To me, "Faulty
Processing" means the disputing mate has run into a relationship
"Brick Wall" which can NOT be penetrated, either through philosophy,
basic desires, or basic turn-offs. Such things can not be controlled,
only endured.



Msg: 9 -- I think it's amazing that on the same site that people will
call me vanilla because I gave the big "EWWWWW" when a gal asks that
some other guy deposits his junk inside her and then asks him (bf) to
retrieve it orally...will then have a problem with this.


HMPH!!!! I respond with the same "EWWWWW"!!!! Such a request
simultaneously requests an END to what I would have thought desirable.
A woman who expresses even a remote desire for another shows a less
than satisfactory desire for me. As such, she should be set free to
pursue her desire, which OBVIOUSLY excludes me. By such expression,
she has forever terminated any desire I may have felt for her.



I could care less if a SO of mine looks at porn. I don't care where
she goes to get her appetite...as long as she comes home for dinner.


If she shows desire for another, my desire for her terminates by
default. Once I know the truth, I could care LESS if she EVER comes
"home for dinner".



Your response could have been more like...yup...I've taken a gander
from time to time.


I do NOT. Once I have established my interest in a woman, I take no
other "ganders". Others fail to interest me, UNLESS she displays an
interest in someone else. Once that happens, she will NEVER regain my
interest. I then search for another.



Every once in awhile...you might even come upon a new trick....you old
dog.


If the "trick" is with HER, I have NO difficulty in presenting
something "new" to her, OR in receiving inspiration from something
"new" that she chooses to present to our repertoire.

 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 36 (view)
 
What would you think?
Posted: 9/23/2009 12:54:53 PM


Msg: 1 -- My girlfriend of 2yrs recently shared her fantasy with me
every since she was 16 shes wanted to be with 2 guys at once. Her ex
flat out said no but im actually consiering it. am i opening a can of
worms or what? I love her with all my heart. Thoughts?


I have EVERY intention of LIVING out ALL of my fantasies. All of them
are genuine desires that I truly want in my real life. That said, I
project that on anyone I meet. If a woman expresses a given fantasy I
presume she wishes to REALIZE it. So, if she expresses a desire for a
threesome, that would have a severe NEGATIVE impact on me, since NONE
of my fantasies include any form of a threesome. Such an expression
would indicate a marked incompatibility, which would AUTOMATICALLY
cause the termination of what I would have considered to be a
Long-Term Relationship.

In short, if I were presented with your scenario, I would END the
relationship immediately and assuage my pain with some alcoholic
beverage until I passed out. Of course this would occur within the
privacy of my own home, since I am never inebriated in public.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 97 (view)
 
I can't hear you guys.
Posted: 9/16/2009 1:38:54 PM


Msg: 58 -- women don't exactly know how it feels to not have your
dingle work properly. If you're a little dry, you get some lubrication
and everything works fine. If a guy goes limp, what is he going to do?
Give it a pep-talk?


Wow, a man's dilemma capsulized in a small paragraph, and no truer
words spoken. A woman can so CONVENIENTLY hide her attraction or lack
thereof. A man can NOT. A man ALWAYS shows his attraction. The
revelation is quite EASY. The question can be so easily resolved by
simple observation of two EASY formulae: HARD = "I want you, and I
want you NOW!!!" or SOFT = "not now, not EVER!!!"

SYNOPSIS: A man can NEVER be deceptive about his attraction toward a
woman. The "HARD/SOFT" dilemma is EASILY derived by a PERCEPTIVE
woman. The man is at a LOSS should he choose to deceive the woman
concerning his attraction.

The woman, OTOH, has free reign at deception. She has NO outward
physical revelation of ANYTHING contrary to what she has expressed.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 52 (view)
 
I can't hear you guys.
Posted: 9/6/2009 2:27:44 PM


Msg: 1 -- So gentelmen tell me why you don't like to moan or what ever
during sexual relations..?


Easy, it's the conditions under which those experiences were
encountered. Almost ALL of my relations, due to location and the
proximity of those who would choose to PHYSICALLY *INTRUDE*, simply
REQUIRED tip-toeing and TIGHT silence. Face it, old habits are
EXTREMELY difficult to break.

For this reason, no matter how excruciating the pleasure may be, I am
involuntarily silent. FWIW, my response is the SAME regarding pain. I
was beaten frequently as a child, and learned early on that ANY
expression of "discomfort" would result in a more VIOLENT retort.

So, as a result of my life experiences, any response to extreme
emotion is INVOLUNTARILY silenced. However, this does NOT mean the
experience is NOT felt, just unexpressed.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 56 (view)
 
TITS: Proper breast stimulation techniques
Posted: 9/5/2009 12:20:46 PM


Msg: 11 -- LEAVE MY TITS ALONE


OK, "badbadgirl" is apparently not with us anymore, but her PROTEST is
QUITE common among MANY women. NOT all, NOT most, but MANY women
OBJECT to men enjoying their breasts in ANY way. Be AWARE that such
women DO *EXIST*! Deal with THESE at your own RISK!

As for my PERSONAL preference, a woman's breasts enhance my sexual
encounter with her. Should she object, my sexual interest ENDS upon
such objection. A woman's body is MY *PROPERTY* until she says
otherwise. If and when she dismisses my claim to her, she
simultaneously dismisses my sexual attraction TO her.

Understand from this presentation that I search for a PERMANENT
relationship. But, if she refuses to be the lover I want her to be,
then she can search for someone else. I refuse to be rejected because
of my desires. My conclusion for such a relationship is that we are
WRONG for each other, and we BOTH must search for different mates.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Chemistry or Lust....
Posted: 9/5/2009 11:43:13 AM


Msg: 15 -- I love and adore my husband each and every day (chemistry)


Your adoration for your husband is reciprocated by his adoration for
you. Were that not so, your relationship would have tragically ended
long ago. I TRULY believe that GENUINE chemistry develops from MUTUAL
feelings and/or attractions. I STRONGLY suggest that my opening
statement in this paragraph is accurate. This presumably strengthens
the mathematical argument presented in the first paragraph which
formed the basis of this expression of my personal opinion.

I invite you to correct any malformation of my opinion based on any
facts comparing your current relationship to the mathematical formula
presented in my first paragraph.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Chemistry or Lust....
Posted: 9/5/2009 11:06:04 AM


Msg: 5 -- Perhaps it is easier to understand if you simplify it.
L x 2 = C
Lust affects one person...
Chemistry affects two people...


Hmm, elementary mathematics, the Language of the Universe, and spoken
here so eloquently. So simple, so clear. So GLARINGLY *OBVIOUS*!!!

How does one miss something so natural?
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 52 (view)
 
what is it about
Posted: 9/1/2009 2:53:30 PM


Msg: 19 -- The idea that all men like that is a myth. And among many
(probably most) who do like that its just a power thing. Some men
actually find the idea kind of a turn-off, or kind of like crossing
the line. But different strokes for different folks.


I am ALL about POWER. BUT, I HATE messy. So, I prefer one who will
SWALLOW as opposed to one who will take it on the face or body. THAT
is TOTALLY disgusting to me. I prefer a DRY bed, UNLESS my partner
happens to be a SQUIRTER. IF she is a SQUIRTER, *ALL* bets are off!!!
If she is physically THAT inclined, I *WILL* adapt by WHATEVER means
NECESSARY.

BTW, allow me to make an ESPECIALLY gender-demeaning comment; given
TWO women of EQUAL preference, I will go for the SQUIRTER. If she
doesn't squirt, that diminishes myself in HER eyes. If that happens,
she is NO LONGER on my radar. The reason; her lack of physical
response has DECLARED me unworthy of ANY deep relationship with her.

I want a woman who is MY sexual slave. If she does NOT squirt, I don't
believe that goal is possible with her. I pass, let her move on.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 86 (view)
 
Which is HARDER for you.. to give away your body or your heart First
Posted: 8/31/2009 1:21:17 PM


Msg: 77 -- Having sex sooner than anyone would expect has got nothing
to do with your heart.


Easy for YOU to say. But for me, it is a bit more difficult. If a
woman captures my heart, sex follows automatically. If no such
condition exists, I have NO sexual interest in her.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 73 (view)
 
Which is HARDER for you.. to give away your body or your heart First
Posted: 8/30/2009 3:14:36 PM
You ask this of women, but I, as a man, find BOTH equally difficult to give out. I associate love and sex to be together as one. If I have sex with a chosen woman, that means that I love her. I don't do "one-nite-stands" or "casual sex" or "FWBs". My libido is driven by HER desire for me. If she shows nothing, I have nothing, and she is worthless to me.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 79 (view)
 
Ever came and stayed inside ....
Posted: 8/30/2009 2:14:45 PM
Only ONE woman caused this response in me in my entire life. Oddly
enough, I have been with women who were far more attractive than she
was, but lacked her enthusiasm. Her devotion to my pleasure spun my
brain wildly. She was the ONLY woman I ever encountered who seemed to
require NO foreplay. She was a sex-hungry maniac and I enjoyed every
moment I spent with her. I dread the all-too-real possibility that I
most likely will never have a relationship with such a woman again.

Hmm, OK, I must confess that this was in the '70s when AIDS meant nothing and she was incapable of becoming pregnant. I suppose this ALL contributed to my enthusiasm.

The use of condoms is a HUGE turn-off, and presents difficulties when trying to engage in a bit of pleasure.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Do women get pleasure out of teasing guys?
Posted: 8/29/2009 12:52:46 PM


Msg: 1 -- A lot of women I've met at bars & pubs seem to get immense
pleasure out of teasing single guys like me.


This tells me you place FAR MORE importance on your appearance than
you do on hers.

Whilst I agree with the boundaries imposed by your seeming rejection,
I would NEVER attach my lifeline to it. If you sense that a woman has
shot you out of the saddle, move on. In THIS case, she has CHOSEN to
be incompatible with you. I consider incompatibility to be the
ultimate separator. In this case, reason is of no consequence. Her
reaction says ALL, *WITHOUT* redemption. Through my eyes, her
rejecting me means she rejects me as a MAN, MATE, and MASTER. I have a
better life to live single and alone than I would have should I accept
her as MY woman. She has ALREADY proven herself incapable of being MY
woman, so she has proven herself incapable of being worthy to be MY
life-time partner.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 192 (view)
 
Should foreplay be equal or mostly about her?
Posted: 8/29/2009 12:34:56 PM
Msg: 191, while the basic premise of your post may be true, even for
me, it has not always been true. The difficulty I have suffered is
more due to the fact that the women I have encountered have endured
sexual encounters ranging from traumatic (violent rape) to very bland
(erectile dysfunction). IMNSHO, this range of displeasure probably
should turn a woman into a Lesbian, if not totally disinterest in sex.

Needless to say, such women NEED more impetus toward sex than those
who have had far more pleasant encounters.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 189 (view)
 
Should foreplay be equal or mostly about her?
Posted: 8/29/2009 11:56:18 AM


Msg: 22 -- In my (limited) experience foreplay is almost exclusively
about him and his pleasure.


Wow, talk about different worlds! It has been my experience that it is
all about her and her pleasure. In my world, the woman MUST get off
first. Then the man does what he can to get off later. Women are
legendary in their difficulty experiencing orgasms, so rule number one
has always been "get her off first"!
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 150 (view)
 
Ugly Vaginas? what would stop you from being intimate when you see it
Posted: 8/25/2009 1:42:26 PM


Msg: 10 -- Is there such a thing as an "ugly" vagina? Smelly can be
bad.....


Wow, "ugly" vagina? I have never seen one. I have seen a few
"smellies", but that had NOTHING to do with LOOKS!
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 77 (view)
 
what do you feel is the most UNATTRACTIVE piercing commonly done today?
Posted: 8/25/2009 1:04:05 PM

Msg: 15 -- Sorry! Don't look at this one either then! lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Albert_piercing


OWWWCH!!!! Just LOOKING at it made the pain so REAL!!!!
AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

I have NO piercings, but THAT display pinned one on me that FELT
**TOO** REAL!

Since I saw it, I've had to check myself every 5 minutes to be assured
that it was NOT done to ME!!!!



Msg: 17 -- I dont like any of them, and I view it as harming a persons
body by putting holes in it that it does not need lol


I agree with all of that EXCEPT the septum piercing. For reasons I
can't explain, I find that a woman with a septum piercing to be HIGHLY
erotic. To me, such a piercing indicates a very submissive slave-girl.

Other piercings, excluding perhaps SOME ear piercings, are TOTALLY
**OFFENSIVE** to me. Sex appeal in such situations is helplessly
NON-EXISTANT.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 538 (view)
 
Circumcised vs Un-Circumcised...
Posted: 8/18/2009 4:14:59 PM


Msg: 23 -- ^ ^ ^ ^ Um no. Taking off a foreskin in no way ruins a
man's sexual pleasure. The same thing can't be said about removing a
woman's clitoris.


WOW, how can ANYONE take BOTH as being EQUAL? Shaving off some skin is
NEGLIGIBLE. REMOVING a BODY PART **DISABLES** the affected body as a
WHOLE.

When comparing a man to a woman, REMOVING a woman's CLITORIS is
TANTAMOUNT to REMOVING a man's PENIS. No, exclude the word
"TANTAMOUNT". Supplant in its place the word "EQUAL", or, EVEN the
word "SUPERCEDES".

Without delving into off-the-shelf ideas such as "G-Spot" and/or
whatever, MOST women DEPEND on their CLITORIS for sexual satisfaction,
and deem themselves "substandard" if they are unable to "achieve" the
set "standard".

Yeah, foreskin removal, referred to as "CIRCUMCISION", is deemed
"NORMAL", and SHOULD be stopped as a standard procedure. But then, so
should "CLITORECTOMY", WIDELY accepted in this world we collectively
call "Our Planet".

WE, as HUMANS, **DOMINATE** all that we see. After all, that is what
God has endowed this planet. But, somehow, in the Garden of Eden, I
FAIL to see the pleasures of ONE over the OTHER. OK, I see she MUST
OBEY him, umm, in the OLD TESTAMENT. But then, I also look in the NEW
TESTAMENT, and what do I see? THE SAME!!!! She MUST obey him, AND
satisfy HIS desires.

BUT, so MANY choose to ignore the desires of the WOMAN. This is as if
her clitoris had ALREADY been removed.

Make NO mistake, I want an obedient and submissive woman. BUT, she
MUST make such a decision on her OWN, resulting from her OWN desires
and expectations.

I AM dominant. I WANT a submissive woman. BUT, she MUST be submissive
by DESIRE, **NOT** by demand. A "demand-driven" woman wants nothing
more than my approval. She risks ALL on what SHE wants, and NOTHING on
the desire of her prospective mate.

I prefer a woman, who, DO **OR** DIE, will pursue the man of her
DREAMS. AM **I** the one she wishes?

See, THIS is the TRICKY thing about ANY relationship. The BIGGEST
question I see is "will it work?"

My answer; perhaps it will, perhaps it will NOT! If you have a problem
with MY answer, then perhaps you have a problem with LIFE itself.

OK, you want a CONCRETE answer? TRY THIS!!!! ESTABLISH a relationship
with one you trust MOST. ALLOW the relationship to develop to YOUR
satisfaction.

Here comes the hardest part; the termination. ALL relationships
involve TERMINATION, REGARDLESS of CAUSE. From this comes the ULTIMATE
of satisfaction or disappointment thereof.

So, tell me what was the MOST significant of YOUR romantic
association. Was it POSITIVE or NEGATIVE?

OH,???? my temptation to reveal what I sense, but I will release ALL
in exchange for seeing what is in REAL life!!!!
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
turned off or challenged
Posted: 8/18/2009 2:53:47 PM
Say WHAT?

ANY sexual contact between ME and the one whom I DESIRE is STRICTLY
between US. If HER desire for me is determined by some odd reward of
competition, then my assessment is that she cares NOTHING for me
PERSONALLY.

Hey, I am perhaps EXTREMELY old-fashioned. The ULTIMATE expression of
LOVE **IS** sex between two partners. IF the sex is SOLELY determined
by their MUTUAL attraction and affection toward each other, then any
comparison between the CURRENT relationship and ANY past relationship
is MEANINGLESS.

IF, however, EITHER party makes ANY **SIGNIFICANT** comparison between
the PRESENT and any PAST encounter, THAT relationship is inherently
DOOMED. A **SIGNIFICANT** relationship is determined SOLELY by the
AFFECTION expressed BETWEEN the two parties involved. If such
affection is TAINTED by ANY previous relationship, the CURRENT one is
unalterably POISONED, When ONE of THAT relationship detects the POISON
from the other, self-protection REQUIRES the TERMINATION of that
relationship, presumably terminated by the offended party.

Specifically, **I** would TERMINATE such a relationship were I SO offended.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 55 (view)
 
Bi Girls
Posted: 8/17/2009 2:35:03 PM
Hmm, homosexuality. I never have understood it and probably never will.

I have had ONE homosexual encounter, and it was NOT enjoyable. The "player" pretended to have a FINE looking woman on the fringe, and I was JUST drunk enough to accept his offer. In the back of my mind, I KNEW what he was doing, but chose to ignore it for the sake of curiosity.

He took me to a hotel, where he chose to take advantage of me and my drunken stupor. I wasn't as drunk as he thought, but drunk enough to release my inhibitions about what he chose to do with me. His first advance was to give me a BJ, which resulted in a TOTAL flop, since he could not get me hard. He left the room, apparently discouraged and disgusted at the result of his endeavors.

Yeah, he tried to take advantage of me. But, in spite of the event and my subsequent embarrassment, he PROVED to me WHO I AM. I am TRULY heterosexual, according to the image I have CHOSEN for myself.

Further, I am MONOGAMOUS, and have NEVER been in a "TRIO" situation, which I find EQUALLY unappealing, whether the third party is male OR female. I am STRICTLY "one-on-one", as in ONE female with me.

This is a TOTALLY f*cked up world, where one has to TRULY **WORRY** about the relationship one wishes to develop, for FEAR the relationship is nearly GUARANTEED to grow in an UNDESIRED manner.

I NOW fear establishing a BENEFICIAL relationship with ANYONE, anticipating one growing through the insipid calculations of a woman SKILLED in deception who is ALSO skilled in escaping my detection.

ANYONE who CLAIMS a desire for a PERMANENT, REWARDING, and REWARDING relationship is ALSO capable of SABOTAGING such a relationship.

!!!!ANYONE!!!! Sad to say, I MUST include MYSELF in that accusation, if for NO other reason than the fact I have YET to prove myself.

So, where does that leave us? I LOTHE your touch because I doubt your trustworthiness. YOU LOTHE my touch because you doubt MY trustworthiness.

SO, WE BOTH are left at an impasse with a decision prompting one's foremost attention.

Upfront, I have become CONDITIONED to REJECT **ALL** but the most INTRIGUING suggestions. Basically, this means that ORDINARY men and women must utilize EXTRAORDINARY means to extract interest Basically, this means that ordinary folk MUST be creative whilst in the attempt to attract the one who at one time was considered the AVERAGE mate.

????AVERAGE???? Yeah, what do I mean by that? Well, I MEAN just THAT, average, in accordance, of course, with MY definition. I want a woman who will honor MY desires, which seems to SHOCK most, since MALES, in this FEMINAZI society, are NEVER to have such desires.

I NOW step into the Feminine Zone. In THIS area, generalization is TREPIDLY **DANGEROUS**, so I will tread ONLY on previously explored ground.

Limited by the experience that I PERSONALLY have experienced, NO woman should have ANY desire for me, since MOST have an annual income that at LEAST **TRIPLES** mine. Combine this with my LACK of desire for a woman who EARNS more than me.

Put this all together. The "Dream Woman". The "Dream Man". All are posted above. The "Dream Woman" can be CLEARLY viewed. The Woman has ALL she wants, and can CLEARLY view ANY man as an INTERFERENCE with her desires.

Conversely, the Man has NOTHING to offer the woman. She supplies herself with ANY and ALL of what she wishes.

The conclusion becomes that the Man has NOTHING to offer the woman that she can not provide herself.

The woman is independent, yes? She has her OWN income, yes? With her income, she can provide herself with ANYTHING, she can provide herself with ANYTHING????

So, the government comes back for reApproval? I do NOT approve!

I choose a desirable and I want ONLY a woman who will choose MONOGAMY with ME **PERSONALLY**.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 68 (view)
 
Why do guys love porn so much???
Posted: 8/2/2009 4:11:41 PM
Let me see, the woman **ENTHUSIASTICALLY** satisfies ALL of the man's sexual fantasies and desires? If TRUE, I sympathize with your confusion. Finding a woman who can ENJOY a man's desires is a RARE occurrance indeed. Unusual and extreme matches are truly QUITE rare, and BOTH the man AND the woman should be grateful that such a match may happen.

I share the confusion with the OP as to why ANY man or woman, when, after meeting the IDEAL match would even CONSIDER any sort of relationship, temporary or otherwise, with someone who seems FAR LESS compatible. This astonishes my sensibilities to no end.

But then, I find HUMAN behavior to conflict with RATIONAL behavior FAR too often.

A man entwined with an IDEAL woman searching ELSEWHERE for WHAT?

STUPIDITY **ABOUNDS** with SHOCKING MAGNITUDE!!!!
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 39 (view)
 
are you influenced by peer pressure in who you choose to date?
Posted: 7/19/2009 7:57:18 PM


Msg: 1 -- are you influenced by peer pressure in who you choose to
date?


At one time I used to be. I wanted so BADLY to date a woman I met in
Jr College, someone who was "not attractive" as determined by most. I
was STRONGLY drawn to her, but I DELIBERATELY IGNORED the impulse,
based on her LACK of popularity. I so IMMENSELY REGRET my response
toward her. I thought of her as INTENSELY appealing, in SPITE of the
fact that MOST men in my class considered her to be ugly.

PEER PRESSURE BE DAMNED!!!! I succumbed to it and was rewarded by a
life of PURE AGONY! Yeah, girlfriends came and went, along with two
wives along the way, and yet I torture myself to this day wondering if
she was the right one, but I turned her away because of, WHAT, PEER
PRESSURE? Ugly or not, she was GORGEOUS in my eyes, and yet peer
pressure ended it all before the relationship even had a chance to
begin.



i'm not influenced by anybody,


I used to say that. I ACTUALLY believed it, too. But "Peer Pressure"
can be a terrible force if one doesn't recognize it for what it is.



or one who says "drop me off 2 blocks from my house because my father
hates blacks" it can be very irritating.........any stories?


Umm, "drop me off 2 blocks from my house because my father hates
blacks"?!?!? Man, you are dating the WRONG woman. WHY? Oh, MAN, let me
tell YOU, it has NOTHING to do with HER father! Your problem is NOT
her FATHER, it is with HER!!!! She cares too MUCH for the opinion of
ANOTHER and not ENOUGH for what SHE **WANTS**!!!!

OK, just in case we may have had some difficulty in connecting, READ
what I said once AGAIN. RELOAD your browser or do whatever you need to
see this message again. It says what I intend to say, which,
admittedly is MERELY an opinion based on what you said.

IF I am WRONG, **EMBRACE** her as your LIFELONG partner, and if you
choose to marry her, DO SO.

BUT, if I am right, DUMP HER **NOW**!!!!! She will NEVER please you,
and you will REGRET the day you EVER met her!
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 79 (view)
 
Do ANY guys make love rather than F***ing?
Posted: 7/19/2009 7:08:37 PM


Msg: 1 -- I am seeking a truthful answer here, guys.


And a truthful answer you will get from me.

I want a woman who is COMMITTED to ME, in ALL WAYS; physically,
emotionally, spiritually, If I sense hesitance in ANY manner on HER
part, her devotion to me and our relationship becomes suspect, and the
DAMAGE is in MOST cases IRREPARABLE.

No apologies here. You asked the question. I gave you my answer.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 39 (view)
 
Kissing in the Morning
Posted: 7/19/2009 6:52:07 PM


Msg: 13 -- Kissing upon waking is a wonderful way to start the day,
I'm all for it.


Wow, the FIRST **POSITIVE** for the past DOZEN posts! I am a QUITE
AVID **PROPONENT** of this practice. If BOTH partners LOVE each other,
I see NO reason why this should not be an enjoyable routine.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 1129 (view)
 
Whats an instant turn on for you
Posted: 7/19/2009 6:24:11 PM
An "Instant Turn On"? A foxy woman who tells me she is my sex slave.

Conversely, a PERMANENT **TURN-OFF** is a woman who shuts me down when
I am horney. A Shut-Down ENDS the relationship PERMANENTLY.

I am MONAGAMOUS by NATURE, but if a woman chooses to destroy our
relationship, I truly MUST move on, PREFERABLY to someone who is
capable of appreciating me.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 160 (view)
 
Infidelity and the public perception
Posted: 7/19/2009 5:42:22 PM


Msg: 149 -- real woman have a strong sense of self and won't
sacrifice that for ANY man.


WRONG!!!! REAL **WOMEN** will sacrifice ALL for the RIGHT man. AND she
has enough intelligence to determine WHO is right and WHO is wrong for
HER.

Just so you understand, Feminazis FAIL to understand WHAT or WHO the
RIGHT man is, and they NEVER will.

The TRUE **WOMAN**, however, is OPEN to such a concept, and,
unfortunately, is also open to injury. She TRUSTS her man and he,
likewise trusts her. If they are right for each other, each will
sacrifice ALL for the other.

Ever hear of the story concerning the fob and the comb? True sacrifice
from EACH lover, combined with the FAILURE of EACH gift, in turn
GLORIFIED their efforts to SOLIDIFY their mutual and undying affection
for each other in a manner NO **SUCCESSFUL** effort COULD.

I won't BOTHER to narrate the story since feminazis inherently FAIL to
appreciate TRUE romance.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Imagine this...one day we were to wake up and....
Posted: 7/19/2009 5:10:11 PM


Msg: 20 -- StarreGazer how many hours or minutes did you spend having
sex last year? Not everyone is having sex on this site. Not everyone
is looking for something kinky or gross.


Forgive me for my excessive presumption, but I think most folk who
frequent this site ARE in fact searching for SEX, whether it be for a
one-night-stand or a permanent arrangement. Presumably your SON has NO
account here, as per your assumption that he has NO interest in sex.

YOU, however, ARE apparently interested in sex, either in the LONG
term or the SHORT term sort of arrangement. HE seems to be content
with his lot in life, according to your narrative.

Are YOU content with YOURS?

Condemn NO ONE whose desires are NOT criminal but seem to contradict
YOURS. According to YOUR narrative, your son's desires are NOT
criminal, and therefore inspire NO criticism.

I claim NO comprehension of his desires. I DO, however, ENVY him that
he has NO sexual desire. I TRULY wish I could be that way. That would
eliminate almost ALL of the stress in my life.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Imagine this...one day we were to wake up and....
Posted: 7/17/2009 12:58:28 PM


Msg: 18 -- It wouldn't affect my behavior at all; I still wouldn't be
interested in having sex with anyone.


SAY WHAT!?!?! **NOT** INTERESTED in SEX? WOW, what a brain-toaster. If
you are NOT interested in sex then WHY are you even HERE?
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 126 (view)
 
Why is no head an automatic turn off for guys
Posted: 7/11/2009 3:11:06 PM


Msg: 59 -- If I don't want to do something, I shouldn't be forced to
do so just to satisfy some selfish loser's wants.


I am TOTALLY unaware of ANY suggestion HERE that you should go AGAINST
your wishes. Bear in mind I AM one of the "selfish losers" to whom you
refer. This means that if you CHOOSE to become MY woman, you WILL do
AS I wish WHEN I wish you to do so. BUT, **YOU** CHOOSE. I force
myself on NO ONE. If you find me or someone else undesirable, then you
CHOOSE **NOT** to be in a relationship with him/her/me. Your SOLE and
COURTEOUS obligation is to INFORM said person of your refusal. Once
that is understood by ALL parties involved, the relationship is
thereby DISSOLVED.

Now, tell me WHY this concept forces ANYTHING upon YOU?
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 125 (view)
 
Why is no head an automatic turn off for guys
Posted: 7/11/2009 2:35:08 PM

Msg: 54 -- I, personally, would not continue dating someone that won't
give oral.
Don't care how great he is.
I will not live my life without recieving oral.
And since "dating" is the time you are figuring out if your compatible
enough to have an actual relationship.....there would be no reason to
continue dating.
Pretty basic stuff actually.......not sure why you can't figure it out
yourself?!


Ladies, read this post for yourselves. PARTICULARLY **THIS** line:

I will not live my life without recieving oral.

Hey, SHE **SAID** this. To the MAN she LOVES, she EXPECTS to RECEIVE!

FROM the MAN she LOVES, she EXPECTS to GIVE!

OK, I may have mixed up the "TO"s and "FROMS"s, but you get the idea.
If BOTH parties in a relationship are repulsed by the idea of
mouth-to-genital sex, then the refusal of BOTH is excusable, because
they seem to be compatible in their wishes. BUT, if ONE partner has
the desire and the other finds such desire repulsive, PLEASE, I
**BEG** you BOTH, END your relationship, because NEITHER of you can be
happy together. You ARE **INCOMPATIBLE**. Live with it and MOVE ON!



Msg: 56 -- Not all men's semen tastes very good but that can be helped
by them drinking pineapple juice. It really improves the taste. Works
for women also.


Thank you for the interesting anecdote. I WILL test it. Thanx again.



Msg: 58 -- Just tell the guy you don't want the sperm in your mouth if
that is what is specifically bothering you. Have him tell you when
he's going to blow.


And I will COURTEOUSLY inform her that she will receive NO warning. It
then remains HER issue if she will pursue the "problem". I will NOT
give her any unpleasant surprise, but I WILL inform her that under
such conditions I will have NO control, and she MUST understand that
fact.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 124 (view)
 
Why is no head an automatic turn off for guys
Posted: 7/11/2009 2:16:03 PM


Msg: 24 -- Compatability has nothing to do with what one partner
finds offensive. You can't change what repulses you.


Compatibility has EVERYTHING to do with what one partner finds
offensive.

AND, you ARE **CORRECT**!!!! You can NOT change what REPULSES you, so
why push the issue? Compatibility is ALL about DESIRES and the
SATISFACTION of those desires. That being the case, WHY is this even a
point of contention?
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 77 (view)
 
Do Women Know If She Will Sleep With You In 10 Secondes?
Posted: 7/11/2009 2:05:39 PM


Msg: 72 -- 1) Always look your best


Not even worth mentioning, but it DOES go without SAYING. One MUST
look one's best REGARDLESS of one's endeavor.



2) Keep your mouth shut until asked, and then keep it brief.


This is what MANY women PREFER you to believe. Personally, I keep MY
desires up front and FOREMOST. I am, of course, willing to compromise,
but I REFUSE to sacrifice. If one finds a need to sacrifice in a given
relationship, then one has found a parasite to shed.



3) Get the hell out of her sight so she can think about that brief
encounter.


If she senses the need for me to get out of HER sight for ANY reason,
she is INCOMPATIBLE with me and deserves no further concern from me.



New words to live by, I guess.


The only WORD to live by is COMPATIBILITY. Most important, do YOU make
HER happy? If not, the relationship is a LOST CAUSE.

Second, does SHE make YOU happy? There again, if not, find someone
ELSE. The both of you can only HARM each other emotionally.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 76 (view)
 
Do Women Know If She Will Sleep With You In 10 Secondes?
Posted: 7/11/2009 1:20:12 PM

Msg: 70 -- definitive written proof that with men....it is a numbers
game.


The pursuit of any ONE or any THING is ALWAYS a numbers game,
regardless of the gender of the pursuer.

This sort of pursuit is EXACTLY like fishing.

If you want a fish, you choose the bait. IF you choose correctly, it
is a guaranteed HOOK.

If your choice is wrong, your line lies idle without a hint of a
nibble, except when you reel it in and find the bait is GONE and the
hook is EMPTY.

The fisher's decision on bait ALWAYS determines the outcome. Bear in
mind that the BAIT is ALWAYS evaluated; **ALWAYS**!!!! It may be
smelled or licked, but it NEVER escapes the evaluation process.
Further, the HOOK is GUARANTEED if the bait has SUFFICIENT appeal.



Msg: 71 -- "won't know if I will that fast, but in 10 seconds, I'll
definitely know if I won't EVER" LOL!


ANY woman I have EVER encountered has ALWAYS decided in LESS than one
minute whether she will or will NOT. Since you seem to have
DELIBERATELY focused on the "will NOT", an encounter with me will most
likely result in a "will NOT" decision on your part. Your negative
decision has no more effect on me than to change my target.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 64 (view)
 
Do Women Know If She Will Sleep With You In 10 Secondes?
Posted: 7/10/2009 3:39:14 PM
When I am with a woman, I get instant sexual feedback, either positive or negative.

Admittedly, most of the feedback I get is negative, but I have had more than just a few positive responses, enough to keep me going.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Why is no head an automatic turn off for guys
Posted: 7/10/2009 2:13:22 PM


Msg: 18 -- see. I 'd never date a guy like that anyway. because he has
no respect for women.


There is where you are wrong. I have a very DEEP respect for a woman
who says she is NOT willing to please me. She is telling me UP FRONT
that we are not compatible and we have NO future in a romantic
relationship.

SHE HAS MY ETERNAL GRATITUDE for telling me such. She has the
GRACIOUSNESS to inform me that any further effort on a potential
relationship is WASTED.

WHAT, should I FORCE her to please me? She has been forthright in
presenting her reluctance. It is only right that we should end an
obviously dead-end relationship so we can each find something more
rewarding.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Why is no head an automatic turn off for guys
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:44:53 PM

Msg: 6 -- choose your words carefully.....you may have come off
sounding like a feminist...


...And the implication of a "feminist" implies a "feminazi" which in
turn implies a "man-hater". This is NOT a sexually enhancing moniker.
A misandrist does her best to TRASH men. Male encouragement is NOT on
her menu.



Msg: 11 -- He isn't going to ruin his chances of getting some sucky
sucky again so he will be obedient trust me. All it takes is one small
phrase "let me know when you are about to cum ok?"... there problem of
"sperm in mouth" solved...


Huh? "let me know..."? If a woman says THAT to me, it is ALREADY
**DEAD** between us. She is telling ME **UP** **FRONT** that she has
NO desire to please me and she places NO value on OUR relationship.

I have NO desire to stay with a bytch like that. Been there, done
that, NEVER again.



Msg: 14 -- its all about pleasuring the guy and forget about what I
want from a relationship.


It is about compatibility. You show your incompatibility with many men
by your reluctance to please them. If you refuse to pleasure a man in
a manner he desires, you are simply incompatible with him.

FWIW, incompatibility is NOT a sin. Remaining IN an incompatible
relationship IS.

 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 55 (view)
 
»» The Temptation of the Happily Married Man
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:20:06 PM
I suspect that you do NOT **TRULY** LOVE your wife. If you did, you would have **ABSOLUTELY** NO desire for any other woman.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Imagine this...one day we were to wake up and....
Posted: 7/10/2009 1:16:00 PM
Fear of pregnancy is at the top of my list, followed VERY closely by fear of STDs.

This is simply because I failed to get a vasectomy when the opportunity was financially available to me. For this reason, I have NEVER had any sort of a romantic relationship with a FERTILE woman.

Concern for STDs, while secondary, also hold a high priority. I was VERY active sexually during the 70s up until I heard of the possibility that heterosexuals were vulnerable to HIV. Since then, my activity dove to almost nil. Trust issues resulting from that nearly annihilated my desire to pursue sex, regardless of the state of a given relationship.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 144 (view)
 
Infidelity and the public perception
Posted: 7/9/2009 4:02:51 PM


Msg: 1 -- "Pft, sex isn't REALLY a need. Air, water and food, THOSE
are needs silly man"


This is a typical female response to a man's needs and desires. The
typical female does NOT love the man she accompanies. He is merely a
SUPPLIER of HER desires and needs.

BUT, do NOT confuse the typical FEMALE with the typical WOMAN, which
is TRULY a RARE find.

The typical WOMAN **LOVES** her man and will do ANYTHING to make him
happy. The sad part of this is that a typical WOMAN will, NOT to her
fault, wrap her love around a typical MALE, NOT a **MAN**, who will
use her and abuse her until she FINALLY despairs of the ideals of
womanhood and becomes a user and abuser who has trashed any thought of
finding a TRUE MAN.

The sad tragedy of all this is when a MAN and WOMAN finally meet each
other their respective past injuries blind them to any future
pleasures, which results in one rejecting the other out of raw FEAR.

Personally, I truly wonder how many potentially good WOMEN I have
rejected out of fear.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Anal Sex...he wants it, but I'm scared to try
Posted: 7/6/2009 1:38:47 PM


Msg: 1 -- he wants to try anal sex. I have never done it before


There was a gf in my past to whom I presented this desire. She was
VERY reluctant, as are you. But, she was willing to please me with ONE
proviso; if I did her in that manner she would do likewise. I was
rather shocked at her response but agreed to her terms. I did her and
enjoyed it IMMENSELY, but she did not. She did me with a dildo and I
found the experience VERY painful and off-putting. She quite
accurately pointed out that my experience was the SAME as HERS,
PAINFUL and unenjoyable.

Suffice it to say that even though we loved each other and she offered
me the pleasure I desired, her "revenge" showed me what SHE felt.
Suffice it to say the reciprocation was EXTREMELY unpleasant, to the
point that I NEVER referenced the subject to her or ANY woman since.

Oddly enough, I recently became acquainted with a woman nearly 1000
miles away from me who claims she has ENJOYED such activity, much to
my confusion. Now I wonder, should I BELIEVE what she says?
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Any tips on how to effectively control squirting?
Posted: 7/6/2009 1:06:53 PM
There should be no effort on your part to control the flow of liquid
due to squirting. If you do, the process will also limit your
enjoyment of sex with your partner.

If you choose to worry, concern yourself with the flow PATH rather
than the flow VOLUME. The solution to the path problem can range from
simple to complex depending on the circumstances.

The simplest is to have sex in the shower. The flow can easily be
washed away.

Someone suggested lining the bed with a plastic cover; another very
simple solution.

Another very simple solution is to enjoy the sexual encounter outside
in a secluded wooded area, such as a forest or park.

These are THREE path control possibilities that come to mind at this
moment. I am sure you have a creative mind, so any other solutions
should be up to your pleasure.

Just remember that controlling the FLOW **INHIBITS** pleasure.
Controlling the PATH creatively **ENHANCES** pleasure.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Celebrity duds in bed
Posted: 6/30/2009 3:51:15 PM
I think ANY celebrity would be a disappointment. Celebrity depends on
pleasing the CROWD. Satisfaction pleases the devoted partner. I want a
woman who wishes to please ME, **REGARDLESS** of what her CROWD
desires.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 47 (view)
 
how many of you on this site
Posted: 6/30/2009 3:21:10 PM

Msg: 39 -- Just imagine how wonderful it would be to take someones
ID/Driver's license, swipe it at the STD machine, and get a printout
of ow many times they have been to a clinic or a pharmacy for
antibiotics/infectives against Sexually Transmitted Diseases. Ahhh...


Hmm, do you want IDEAL? How about being able to walk up to a device
similar to the "price check" kiosks at Walmart and receive an
"on-demand" STD check ACTUALLY capable of assessing ANY sexual
contact? AND, like the "price check", would be delivered as a SIMPLE
courtesy provided by the retail outlet. You want IDEAL? I think THAT
is about as close to IDEAL as one can get!!!!



Msg: 42 -- I've never had an "STD", and I really think all the fear
mongering by drug companies has really distorted reality. Stats like
"1 out of 5 people have herpes" are obvious lies from my experience.


Are YOU for REAL?!? TRULY, who gives a SH!T about stats, which can be
altered by ANY statistician at WILL!!!! DILIGENT **TESTING** is TRULY
the ONLY protection, even though even THAT process can be found
lacking.

I don't rely on statistics. I rely INSTEAD on my COMFORT LEVEL. My
Comfort Level REQUIRES me to test before ANY physical contact. This is
PARTICULARLY important to me since I REFUSE to employ prophylactic
protection. If **I** or my prospective contact is uncomfortable with
my requirements, I WILL require STD tests, and they WILL be performed
FREQUENTLY **UNTIL** ANY and ALL doubts are sucessfully dismissed.

This is based on MY assumption that there should be NO requirement of
"protected sex" between folk involved in a Long-Term Committed Couple
Arrangement. Once confidence and trust has been established, any and
ALL self-protection SHOULD of necessity be pushed aside.

SHOULD that trust be VIOLATED, any STD that I may have contracted
would have been destroyed anyway, along WITH my reason for living.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 46 (view)
 
how many of you on this site
Posted: 6/30/2009 3:08:53 PM


Msg: 23 -- ts important to know also that HIV can take around 3 months
to show up in a test. I thought it was 3 weeks like some other stds
but its 3 months.


Better check your facts again. Some strains of HIV take as long as a
YEAR to become detectable, but most of them hang around the 6 month
mark. HIV **SHOULD** be the most fear-inspiring consequence of NOT
abiding by the basic principles of monogamy.

Fear of HIV has kept me fiercely loyal to my wife, who died in 2006.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 80 (view)
 
Infidelity and the public perception
Posted: 6/30/2009 2:36:32 PM


Msg: 73 -- I don't really get it. If you don't want to have sex with
your man why begrudge him sex with someone else? As long as it's just
sex. If he can't separate intimacy from sex then that's different.


????
You don't GET it???? If one partner doesn't want sex with the other,
WHY even BOTHER with any attempt to maintain the relationship? The
PRIMARY reason for a male/female relationship is BECAUSE of the sexual
and personality attractions between them. It is CRUEL of one party to
deceive the other about the veracity of EITHER of these ESSENTIAL
points. TRULY, this is NOT about infidelity, it is MORE about
heartbreak and disappointment.

As for me, **I** have the fortitude to break it off if my partner
deprives me of my right to her. Some folk are unable to develop that
resolve on the empty hopes that somehow the relationship can be
salvaged. The pain on the deprived approaches the breaking point and
infidelity becomes a temporary fix, if for no other reason than that
the deprived seems to be validated as a PERSON.

I suppose you could never understand that, since YOU most likely have
NEVER been DEPRIVED.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 79 (view)
 
Infidelity and the public perception
Posted: 6/30/2009 2:12:43 PM


Msg: 57 -- Men fulfill their egos when it comes to their "needs". If
men preferred bonding over animal like behavior, women would respond
better to them in kind.


This seems to be a response to your personal experience, and it
appears to be the same as mine. Change EVERY male reference to female
and EVERY female reference to male and your above quote mirrors MY
despair.
 StarreGazer
Joined: 2/21/2007
Msg: 34 (view)
 
Infidelity and the public perception
Posted: 6/28/2009 2:19:53 PM


Msg: 1 -- Why is it that women can totally disregard the needs of
their men and still be seen as the victim?


It is quite odd that you feel the need to even ASK this question, so I
won't even bother with an answer other than the problem which presents
itself as compatibility. If ONE partner in a sexual relationship feels
justified in denying the other sexual fulfilment, THAT partner is
WORSE than TRASH and is worthy of NOTHING more than DISPOSAL. ANY
partner, MALE **OR** FEMALE, who DENIES his/her partner the necessary
gratification to perpetuate the continual pursuit of maintaining the
relationship is GARBAGE. If such a heinous person is IN such a
deceitful relationship, the BEST he/she can do, the KINDEST thing, is
to END the relationship. Oh, and PLEASE don't even BOTHER with the
reason. Just END it. I may even ASK why, but, just from human
kindness, go silently into my past where ALL of my failures dwell, and
just become one of them.
 
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