wha? Well, the maps were drawn long ago and many men and women have lost their lives for those little lines so I'm gonna go with that. Society is drawn to order and maps are part of that order.

Heck, I'm all for Northern Cali breaking off from us "southerners" if they want to. It's just the promise of the ensuing political and economic chaos that gives me pause. Maybe it will happen one day, but it will be done legally.

You Sacramento people had better have your passports in order if'n you want to visit Disneyland.

Cali is a state of mind. do wha, do wha....

I'm saying some women have that opinion - I didn't say it was my opinion

Of course perhaps as an average bbw, I am talking myself into believing that lol

* Some women see parallels between gifts for dates, and prostitution - and prefer to pay their own way

I so disagree with you. I'm glad that woman feels that she should go dutch on her meals. Good for her and I sincerely support her choice. While what follows may seem like a rant, it was actually written with a smile on my face.

I can honestly say I've had dates where the only thing that prevented me from highlighting a rot-infested soul, ill-advised opinions, bigotry, or generalizations was the chewing of steak into small pieces. I’m not out to generate death with my words so I chewed my steak in meditative silence while I planned the most effective escape route. That being said, if I had pay for my share of such disgusting talk it would have been completely unbearable.

I'm an attractive woman with wonderful conversation, sense of humor, and a nice smile. Why shouldn’t a guy buy my dinner, present flowers, and dazzle me? He asked for my time...not the other way around. I can cook and cook well. Why would I leave my comfy home to drive to a restaurant to pay for a meal? I have books, knitting, and exercise videos at home. Why would I leave its warmth to go and then pay for “entertainment” with him?

I'm saying the problem today is too few men try to impress women.
They want to:
do nothing,
offer nothing,
contact us little if at all,
mass reply in text message groups to many of us,
send us forwarded emails to other women,
ignore us,
and then still expect us to be GRATEFUL for spending time with them?

Frankly, it’s not the guys fault. I’ve know too many women that are SO GRATEFUL to be with a man because of his (looks/education/paycheck/stature) that they stopped requiring men to earn their time and attention. Even worse, there is a pop-culture myth that accepting a gift obligates you to some sort of sexual favor afterwards. It doesn’t.

Indianaman, I'm sorry, I'm not going to reach for the check first. I'll stand beside that until the end of time. And just know that if I do reach for that check first (and you’re not my husband), you’ve automatically reached the realm of friendship from which you will never exit. And to those that have a problem with that, please feel free to find someone more interesting, fun and relaxing to spend your time with.

fft, forget the burgers. Get a grilled eggplant focca sandwich from Mario's on Union and Columbus and be amazed! (Seriously it will change you)


Other than that I'd go to the Original Joe's