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 Author Thread: National Anthem disrespected? Canuck Op
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 51 (view)
 
National Anthem disrespected? Canuck Op
Posted: 7/4/2008 5:20:27 AM
I'm Canadian. In fact I'm from Quebec which has more French-speaking Canadians than English. Several other parts of Canada also have a lot of Francophones.

For years we had two versions of the national anthem, the original English one and a French translation. Note: they really were accurate translations and the song carried the same message in both languages. About 10 years ago, the gov. decided to replace them with a new anthem which was actually a combination of the French and English versions.

The fact is that the US has one national anthem and she was hired to sing it. She made a strong political statement at a time when the US is divided over a lot of issues. That changed how a lot of people perceived the event and overshadowed the messages that the organizers wanted to convey.

Disrespectful to the anthem? Yes. Disrespectful to the organizers and everyone who came out to the event? Definitely. If she has a political agenda she should push it politically and petition to have the national anthem changed to better reflect the US' current demographic profile. If she wants to keep rebelling against the people who hire her she won't get much work.
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 19 (view)
 
What is meant by a fun girl?
Posted: 6/19/2008 12:00:05 PM
Just checked my profile and the verdict is...GUILTY! I am indeed looking for a fun girl and have officially stated so on record.

Things that make you fun are:
- Confidence
- Sense of adventure
- Use of humour and/or jokes throughout the date
- Open Mind
- Keeping the conversation alive by offering personal insight rather than giving Yes/No answers to questions

The word fun is context-sensitive and can be misleading. Do not confuse the above useage with cases like "Looking for a fun time?" or "Let's have a fun night". Such remarks as these may be rife with insidious sexual overtones.
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Guys, how would you recommend I answer this question?
Posted: 6/19/2008 11:43:21 AM

Lie about what I do


NEVER lie on a date! You're just getting off on the wrong foot and it could be a source of mistrust later if you continue seeing the person.

That being said, I don't think that these guys are trying to get freebies from you. It sounds more like they're just tossing out a a real cheese doodle of a flirt and trying to move the conversation towards an area that they perceive as more exciting and sexually charged.

At this point you have to take control of where the conversation is going and aim it 1 of 2 directions:

1. AUTO DESTRUCT! If you're not into this guy then I agree with 90% of the other posters here. Put out some boring reply like "sorry I'm booked", or "You can call my secretary and schedule an appointment; its $n / hr", or "This is my job; I'm not a charity" and impliment your escape and evasion plan ASAP.

2. Deflect it with some clever wit. If by some chance you're liking this guy and want to move the date forward without filling your day planner then say something like "It's my job; I don't mix business with pleasure"

Be advised: any guy that does this is lacking class and needs to grow up so lean towards option 1.
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 71 (view)
 
Why do men ask so few questions?
Posted: 6/17/2008 9:36:14 PM

Just wanted to point out that you are making the assumption here that men actually read profiles which I've generally found is not the case


Sounds like the men in question here are just lazy


I remember a couple of years ago having this WONDERFUL date with a guy and nothing. I volleyed a soft e-mail to him the next day saying I had a great time and he responded about a week later with a bland you're an "amazing woman" e-mail, but nothing for me to gage his interest. No telephone call or anything. I figured the guy was not interested and trying to let me down nicely. I let it go.

I ran into the guy recently and he mentions how he hoped we could have gone further. I said, "well you should have let me know that, because we could have." Basically, it was all "safe" communication, which goes nowhere.


I don't think he was trying to let you down; it sounds like he was too much of a pansy to actively pursue you.

My opinion in both cases is that you should expect better of the men you meet and exchange messages with or else find other men. I agree with vro312; if you don't like how they write then throw those fish back in the pond.
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 112 (view)
 
I was told I am a bad mother because I smoke marijuana.
Posted: 6/17/2008 9:04:12 PM
First of all I'm very glad to hear that your daughter is conscious. From your description it sounds like she's also very conscientious.


Do most other people really see this issue the way he does?


Nobody sees the issue the way he does. This guy had a much higher opinion of you while he was trying to set up a date but now that you've rejected him you're a bad mother. Some people don't know how to handle the word no. He sees this issue as a means to lash back at you, not as a genuine ethical concern. Clearly you made the right choice in refusing to meet him and should follow through on that logic by rejecting his comments.

That being said:

- Being pro-legalization of marijuana: perfectly acceptable
- Being vocal about the legalization of marijuana: also acceptable
- Smoking marijuana: fine if you accept the consequences of getting caught
- Getting caught, getting arrested and explaining to your daughter why you're going to jail: this is where you lose my support.
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 697 (view)
 
Why Do women dump men who are nice to them.
Posted: 6/11/2008 9:31:48 AM
Why do men like tits & (explitive)?

Its a question of sex appeal.

First: women don't dump men who are nice to them; they dump men who are nice to them and nothing more. Attraction for men is visual; we look at a woman and may reject or pursue her based on her appearance. Surprise! Women can be equally cut and dry but they base their judgements on psychological qualities, not physical ones.

Women want men to be fun, to challenge them, to show strength, to be a leader and to be assertive in going after what they want. Being nice, giving them whatever they want and submitting to their wants doesn't impress women; it just makes you REALLY UNSEXY. The more you submit to a woman, the more you start looking to her the way a 400 lbs woman with stubble and a peg-leg looks to you.

And when you think about it, that's not even superficial at all. The whole thing about women wanting a "bad boy", that's only true for a small minority of women who have psychological problems, bad father figures or some other issues. The vast majority of women just want a fun, confident guy who makes himself AN EQUAL PARTICIPANT in the relationship.

The qualities that women find sexy are mostly qualities that would make you happier and more successful in life if you developed them more in yourself. They also give you the tools to better maintain a long-term relationship. It's not realistic to enter into a relationship thinking you'll maintain it by doing whatever the other person wants; pretty soon, you'll realize how much that sucks and then it'll all fall apart. Focus on your own personal growth and you'll see a change in how women react. You can still be nice to women; if they find you sexy they'll think the niceness is really cute!
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 371 (view)
 
why do men only care about sex???
Posted: 6/11/2008 9:02:26 AM
Wow...so much aggression in this thread! Lashing out at everyone because you've had a bad experience in the past isn't going to help anyone...least of all yourself.

faithfullyurs2107 , you're actually touching on two very different questions here:


why do men only care about sex???


The short answer to this question is that men have less consequences to worry about from sex. Questions of right and wrong aside, we don't get pregnant and its a lot easier for a man to quietly slither away if he doesn't want to be involved in raising a child. After millions of years of evolution we wind up with these attitudes being ingrained and instinctive. In biological terms this is called "parental investment" . Look it up and you'll see piles of research to support what any astute social observer already knows.

The important thing is that you understand that men and women have a different approach to sex and that you not allow yourself to be taken advantage of.


Im tired of being used by men for sex


Your main question is very general; this is specific. You can't just expect men to stop taking advantage of you. Some will have respect but you'll always meet ones that don't and its up to you to take the active role in figuring out which men are insincere so that you can get them out of your life as quickly as possible.

1. Discuss your approach to sex. Most men won't lie about their intentions but they may avoid the discussion. Put it out there before things get serious.

2. Don't give in to pressure. Starting a sexual relationship is a decision that takes two. If you're not ready or still uncertain about whether the man has good intentions towards you then SAY NO. He may dump you because of it; that only proves that his intentions were not good.

3. You don't get anything in life without working towards it. You're in the forum complaining about things men do but you need to do something yourself. Instead of playing the victim and expecting others to change for you, you need to change yourself and demand better of men. You need to undertake a personal journey that will bring you to a place where you truly believe that you deserve better. You do deserve better but you wont' get it until you pursue it.

Good luck.
 oldskoolb
Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 75 (view)
 
WTF is up with women using being safeonline as an excuse to play games?
Posted: 7/3/2007 6:58:26 PM
People have difficulty outright saying "I'm not interested in you". I think 9 times out of 10 when someone says something like that it means move on. Men and women both tell little "white lies" when their romantic interest wanes.

And in any case if someone is genuinely apprehensive about meeting you, why would you want to meet them? You're just asking for a slow, tense, nervous date. I'll only go on a date if I'm enthusiastic and excited to meet the other person and I'd expect the same from them.
 
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