To alter a man's perception of a woman, sometimes a woman lies about the # of sexual partners. Since it is in writing, false statements about sexual history can lead to an annulment instead of a divorce. An annulment voids the marriage, as if you were never married. Since you were never married, there is no alimony in an annulment.

ladies ? You can't take a musician out of his life. same as my business I won't let anyone make any decisions about my work , same as my playing. I've been standing on stages for 20 years now and you can never take that away from me, We live for it !

Many people seem to think that Swans and Wales are monogomous. Nonsense !

The forces of nature are absolutely awesome - you can't fight them and you waste your time trying......

SKA213 has a good point - All those people who proudly proclaim they are in a monogomous relationship, why on earth are you looking for a partner on a dating site ?? Clearly, you are either lying to yourself as well as us, or you are in entirely the wrong place. That should provoke a backlash ......

Diehard lifelong exercise hater here. But, damn, you get older and you think you might just want to get even older still. so.... I decided to take the stairs. And I don't mean just one or two flights. I work in a 17 storey building and decided about 3 months ago that I was going to climb to the top, with the goal of doing it all in one go. So far, I can make it up 11 flights before I have to take a breather of a couple of minutes. It takes less than 10 minutes, counting breathers and my resting heart rate has gone from 85 to 65 beats per minute.

As I mentioned above and if you go back and look, I was not talking about MONEY primarily. I was merely stating that no matter what measuring stick is used IN MOST CASES the male is expected to expend more resouces initially, whatever those said resouces are qualitatively, in the wooing than is the woman.

Your definition of wooing is different than mine and, I believe, most guys. As others have noted opening doors and showing respect is what one should do in any circumstance. I also consider calling to check if one got home OK after a date to be natural. If that is wooing then I definately have no problem with it.

It's the idea or belief or excuse one will not know the other person is interested if they don't do a certain thing.

It just seems to come across as, "You say you like me. Now prove it." Plainly, if somewhat crudely, there is the presumption the man is a liar.

And, yes, I realize that wooing does not always equal money, but you do see a lot of women here in the fora and IRL or just in their profiles imply, if not state outright, that they do not like a 'cheapskate'. This is always odd since I've met many women who are far bigger cheapskates than any man I've ever met. And there is always that sense

Besides the direct money aspect, there is always the implied, if not direct statement, that the man must expend SOMETHING MORE by way of money, emotion, effort or time than the woman does when wooing takes place. At the very least it is expected that HE will be the initiator or woo.

My daughter said::::::::::::::::::: 'Mum, this is a free web-site, these men are looking for......................................................." If a man was looking for a true lasting relationship he would be putting out just a little money"

Females seem to be contradictory from a very young age. They say money is not important, yet they really dislike a guy who is not willing to spend money on them in one way or another.

Ah, to woo without being expected to spend....

Monogamy seems to be very popular among women, and supported by the latest interpretations of most Christian religions, thus giving this point status in marital contracts. I personally believe that monogamy is not an automatic condition of marriage but part of the relationship that is worked out between two people. Whether they can be satisfied with only one another for life, of if they need a more open relationship to balance their monotony with their need for spontaneity.

Wooing women was wonderful when wooed women welcomed woo. Now it is like trying to pet a porcupine. Once upon a time women thought highly of men, and wanted to love men. Then women decided that all that is evil in life rests with men, and so men became the enemy of women. Now women want men to love them even while they hate men.

Did you know that, years ago gentlemen said that a lady’s hand was the quickest way to her mind? Yup, that’s why a gentleman would kiss a lady’s hand as a greeting. It is also why a married woman wore gloves but a gal who was unspoken for did not -- more sensuous on bare skin, so the married lady would cover her hand before presenting it to a man in public.

So the trick was to kiss the hand, which was acceptable in public, but also work out a way to kiss her fingertips without anyone noticing before she giggled. Because, that was the beginning of the seduction process.

let me make it clear she is a friend of mine that is dating a man that is love with her and another woman.