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RDtoo

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Ideas for those stumbling in this economy? Posted: 11/15/2009 11:11:08 PM
There are alot of skilled people out of work and I know it takes alot of energy to just try and survive. It seems like the corporations who moved the jobs out of this country are not bringing them back. I wish people could find the time to group together and think of ceating our own jobs, so something like this won't happen again. It seems like talented unemployed people could figure out something to manufacture or create that would produce some jobs. I was thinking about this recently when I was telling someone about shopping for a toliet seat a while back! Most of the seats I saw were made in China and I was determined to find one made in the USA. I did, and it cost less than the one made in China. So why not make stuff here independently of corporations?

RDtoo

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Will Michigan ever recover from this economic crisis? Posted: 11/12/2009 11:10:54 PM
David, I think there is alot of truth in that. When I was a kid, Detroit was the 4th largest city in the country. Last I heard it was around 10th. Now some of that happened because of the "white flight" to the suburbs after the 67 riots, but the Detroit area has just been in a downward spiral for as long as I remember. I know we never recovered from the recession following 9/11. As far as blaming the liberals for this, remember the bottom dropped out during the Bush administration. You can blame Obama for alot of things, but he was not the cause of this economic crisis. He wasn't even elected when this happened.

RDtoo

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Hay DON'T MISS ALL THE FUN in November at J-Dubs Night Club 11/14 Posted: 11/10/2009 11:10:06 PM
There is nothing wrong with J. Dubs. The problem is people who live downriver are not coming out to these parties and it is too far for many to drive. At any rate, it might be good. The guys who hunt are headed up north this weekend so their girlfriends will all be at the bar looking for fun........

RDtoo

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Hay DON'T MISS ALL THE FUN in November at J-Dubs Night Club 11/14 Posted: 11/7/2009 9:10:02 AM
Hey, well let's not let this one die. We have a party scheduled, so let's make it a good one.

RDtoo

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Favorite Autumn activity in Michigan Posted: 11/7/2009 9:04:32 AM
It feels like autumn is going to last longer than usual this year. I hope it lasts until April.

RDtoo

Joined: 1/30/2005

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Friend vs. Lover? Posted: 11/6/2009 11:30:00 PM
It has been interesting to see where this conversation has gone since I posted this about 24 hours ago. Once again, it appears that I failed to communicate my thoughts with any amount of clarity. I suppose everyone thought that I was hopping into bed immediately with these women because I used the word "lover". Bad word choice. No, I am NOT hopping right into the sack with women. Of course I have tried to take the time to get to know them. I think Ismene nailed it when she mentioned "depth of emotion". This is exactly what I meant. I find myself in a relationship based on a superficial knowledge of a person. It is that depth of emotion I am looking to find. And for those of you who wonder why a man over 50 is still trying to figure this out, just think of all the ones who have went to the grave clueless. I may be a late bloomer but I am trying to get it right...

RDtoo

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Friend vs. Lover? Posted: 11/5/2009 11:51:57 PM
I see alot of profiles on here that state they are looking for their best friend. Me too. Unfortunately most of the relationships I have been in seemed to skip over the making friends part and right into becoming lovers. In fact, I think most of my relationships failed because I found myself in a relationship with someone I probably would not like as a friend, as odd as that might sound. Any advice on how I can make a friend before becoming a lover next time?

RDtoo

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If a Dream is Impossible..when do you stop chasing it? Posted: 11/3/2009 11:43:08 PM
I think you have to be somewhat realistic with your dreams. I am pretty much convinced at this stage I am not going to play center field for the Detroit Tigers. I am also convinced that there are alot of women on this site who want someone to give them alot more materialistic goods than I am able to give. I accept that. There is also not very many women on this site who want to put up with a smoker like myself. Never quit reaching for the stars, just make sure you are standing on solid ground.

RDtoo

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Hay DON'T MISS ALL THE FUN in November at J-Dubs Night Club 11/14 Posted: 11/3/2009 11:30:15 PM
Darin, I appreciate all the time and effort that you put into this, but people just are not coming to these parties. Maybe we could find a place in Dearborn or something? I think that would draw people from other areas and still be close to downriver. Years ago we used to party at the top of the Hyatt Regency. That was a fun place or what about all those hotels out by the airport? I know some of them have bands on the weekend. It couldn't hurt to give a different place a try for a change. The O'Tooles parties draw way over 100 people everytime, and lately we are struggling to get 30.

RDtoo

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Hay DON'T MISS ALL THE FUN in November at J-Dubs Night Club 11/14 Posted: 11/2/2009 11:12:12 PM
I think it may be about time to pull the plug on the J Dubs parties. People downriver just do not support them. Sad.

RDtoo

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No one writes back Posted: 11/2/2009 10:52:14 PM
Terri, even if the idea of lavendar as a gay thing is long defunct, it would not matter. It could have been orange essence fabric softener for that matter. When a woman looks at a profile I am guessing she is looking to see if the guy hunts, fishes, goes boating, or whatever. I doubt that enjoying the scent of fabric softener is at the top of her shopping list. Maybe I am wrong though?

RDtoo

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No one writes back Posted: 11/1/2009 9:55:05 PM
No there is nothing wrong with liking the smell of lavendar. A gay person used to be known as having "a touch of lavendar", but I have no idea if that idea persists. That being said I just thought it sounded odd, and any hint of oddness scares people off on here. Personally I have a smell fetish for Bonnie Bell Skin perfume. Don't know why but that stuff drove me crazy. I hear they still make it, but I haven't smelled any women wearing it in a long time.

RDtoo

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No one writes back Posted: 10/28/2009 10:59:47 PM
Larry, I have seen guys on here who look like Brad Pitt saying they do not get any responses, so don't take the lack of responses personal. Most guys on here do not get many responses and there's probably a variety of reasons. I do see a couple of things in your profile that you might want to change. I'm not trying to be rude, but you did ask for feedback. One you say you have never been on a real date. As you are in your 30s some women might be scared off by this. They might wonder why you would say that. The other thing you might want to drop is saying you like the smell of lavendar fabric softener. I have found that listing the off-beat things about oneself dosen't work very well on here, but as several women gave your profile the thumbs up and didn't notice what I did, I could be way off base.

RDtoo

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Do women always assume you are hitting on them when you speak to them? Posted: 10/27/2009 11:01:53 PM
This is just getting too bizarre. I have not lied here about anything. I have wore my heart on my sleeve and now I am done with this conversation.

RDtoo

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Do women always assume you are hitting on them when you speak to them? Posted: 10/26/2009 11:24:02 PM
First off, I would like to say thanks to those who spoke in my defense. This is something that has never happened to me much in my life and it means a lot. Thanks. For one thing, I never pictured myself as some kind of leader here. I post threads in order to try to get conversation going. At times I feel like a voice in the wilderness as some of my threads have died quick deaths. The thing is, ANYONE can start a thread/discussion here. In fact I wish more people would as I am running out of ideas. There used to be alot of traffic in here, and then, as Ripley said, a pack mentality developed. For a while I felt like an outsider here though I was here before most of the clique arrived. I will second Rip in saying thankfully most of them have moved on. I admit what I said to Octobergirl could have been viewed as an attack. I didn't mean for it to be and I think I did apologise somewhere along the line. I do have a pet peeve about the word "conversate", which I will not get into again as there was a whole discussion about it a page or two back. At any rate, I am not perfect. I stick my foot in my mouth at times and often speak before thinking. I do not plan attacks on anyone though. Again, I have seen it happen and had it happen to me. It is not fun. It is cruel. Smiling Salmon, I have no idea what it was I said or did to you, but I do apologise. For a while we were exchanging emails then it stopped. I hope we can get past this and be friends again.

RDtoo

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Hay DON'T MISS ALL THE FUN in November at J-Dubs Night Club 11/14 Posted: 10/25/2009 11:25:40 PM
Maybe everyone went to a new singles site. The forums are dead. The parties are dead. I don't know what is happening.

RDtoo

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Will Michigan ever recover from this economic crisis? Posted: 10/25/2009 11:22:05 PM
The manfacturing is probably going to southern states because the South is kind of known for being anti-union. If people would study what life was like before the Unions, I think it would be easier to recruit people to become more involved in fighting for jobs to stay put. Sad thing is, people are too apathetic. It is much easier to sit around watching American Idol or playing Guitar Hero, than being outraged at what is happening in our country.

RDtoo

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Do women always assume you are hitting on them when you speak to them? Posted: 10/25/2009 10:59:19 PM
I do agree with Motown about people ganging up, but if I have been part of a "gang" on here, I am ignorant of it. I too have been a victim, many times, of being ganged up on in threads, and would not be a willing part of such a thing. If I have agreed with others it is because I agree with them, not to gang up on anyone. And speaking of being picked on, go back and read some of Pink Fairys comments towards me.

RDtoo

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Do women always assume you are hitting on them when you speak to them? Posted: 10/24/2009 10:02:58 AM
This forum has been so devoid of conversation that I would welcome anyone to post comments here. There is nothing private about this forum. It just became apathetic.

RDtoo

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Do women always assume you are hitting on them when you speak to them? Posted: 10/23/2009 11:26:59 PM
Yes, I am a bit scatterbrained and maybe did not send a reply to questions asked. That does not mean I thought them unimportant. Where you are wrong is in assuming that I wasn't trying to be a friend. I only email people that I find worthwhile. I do not do it as a means to add numbers to the party. You are way off base here, and that is all I have to say on this matter.

RDtoo

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Ex-atheists? Posted: 10/23/2009 11:18:20 PM
Mr. NerdStatus, I started this thread and posted msg. 19 over 4 years ago. At that time atheism as a religion was something I never thought of before. As time has passed I think arguing semantics is not really the issue. It is a distraction. To me, religion means something one practices. For instance, I am a religious coffee drinker. Now I understand that some people find the word religion scary. That is ok, that is their perogative. In other words, over time, this has become a non-issue to me. By the way, scoring yourself points on an internet forum seems rather childish. Wouldn't you agree?

RDtoo

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Will Michigan ever recover from this economic crisis? Posted: 10/22/2009 11:30:16 PM
Probably everyone on here has been effected or knows someone who has been effected by the current economic crisis. I think the crisis here in Michigan began 2 or 3 years earlier than it did in the rest of the country. The question is with the auto industry going belly up for a while and the manufacturing jobs going south of the border, will Michigan ever recover? I don't think filming a few movies here is going to help in the long run. I mean seriously, "Hollywood, Michigan"? Our winters will have them running back to sunny California. So where are the jobs going to come from? Anyone? Anyone?

RDtoo

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Bonfire and Barn Dance Nov. 7th or 21st Posted: 10/22/2009 11:06:27 PM
Nope. I still think if we just went ahead and planned it and sent out the mass email people would sign up. I just think alot of people do not read the forums. Sorry I missed the haunted hayride. I really wanted to come but work would not let me. Speaking of barn dances, there is a costume party barn dance this coming saturday out in Northville at Three Cedars Farm. It is a charity event put on by Christians so there won't be any booze but if anyone is interested email me for more info.

RDtoo

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Do women always assume you are hitting on them when you speak to them? Posted: 10/22/2009 10:59:18 PM
I didn't realize that Lawrence, Terri and I agreed so often. I can assure you it is not a coalition. As far as not liking you, you will recall I sent a birthday greeting with a balloon attachment on your birthday. Would I do that for people I don't like? I was looking forward to meeting you at the bonfire/hayride but either I missed you or you didn't show.

RDtoo

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Ex-atheists? Posted: 10/22/2009 10:47:21 PM
Actually this thread that I started had nothing to do with asking if atheists were religious. It kind of evolved or sank into that. I started this thread a couple of years back with a link to a group of ex-atheists. As the link seems to have disappeared from the OP, I have no idea what my original intent was, but it was not to argue that atheists are religious. I really do not think it makes one bit of difference either way.

RDtoo

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Ex-atheists? Posted: 10/21/2009 10:40:26 PM
Actually it was not a tactic on my part at all when I started this thread. I just find it amusing that so many people, alot of Christians included, despise or fear the word "religion". I have no idea what the big deal is. It is a word. Saying you are religious does not turn you into a Born Again Christian or whatever. It is a word. One of the definitions in my dictionary for religious is "having thorough and geniune loyalty". That could be true about any number of things. I think people do not like the word because it implies some kind of committment, and if our present society hates anything, it hates committment.

RDtoo

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Do women always assume you are hitting on them when you speak to them? Posted: 10/20/2009 10:48:44 PM
Smiling Salmon, thank you for your input, but as you are not a man you could not have experienced the situation that I am talking about. It very well could be that it is a hell of a lot of assuming on my part, but I have noticed that several men who have left comments knew exactly what I was saying and agreed with me.

RDtoo

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Do you need income to have love??( Poor people need love too) Posted: 10/17/2009 10:46:10 PM
Anyone can have love in their life, but for the idealized love that most of us want, a man has to have money to get it and a woman has to have incredibly good looks. Sad, but true.

RDtoo

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Bonfire and Barn Dance Nov. 7th or 21st Posted: 10/17/2009 10:42:27 PM
Veloise, unfortunately when we said "barn dance", we were talking about a dance in a barn, and not what a real barn dance is. Personally, I would love to have a barn dance or square dance for a POF party. I'm not a square dancer, but went to a hayride that had a caller. None of us knew anything about squaredancing and we all had a ball. We had a hard enough time getting people to come to a bonfire, so I doubt we would be successful with a POF squaredance. Too bad.

RDtoo

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Bonfire and Barn Dance Nov. 7th or 21st Posted: 10/9/2009 10:34:59 PM
The host formerly known as DH? Hmmm..

RDtoo

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Bonfire and Barn Dance Nov. 7th or 21st Posted: 10/8/2009 11:38:02 PM
Personally I would go to a bonfire every weekend if I could.

RDtoo

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Detroit Tiger Talk Posted: 10/8/2009 11:35:33 PM
Unfortunately, the Tigers are not going to be adding much from statements Dombrowski has made. There is going to be so much money being paid out next year to Magglio, Cabrera, and even Dontrelle Willis, that they may be forced to let go of Placido Polanco, Fernando Rodney, and other free agents. They are talking about bringing up several players from the minors who they feel are ready to play. I think they will use any available money to sign Verlander and Jackson to long term deals. I do not look for them to seriously compete in 2010. I think they will wait until Magglio and Willis big salaries are up at the end of next year. I hope I am wrong.

RDtoo

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Bonfire and Barn Dance Nov. 7th or 21st Posted: 10/8/2009 12:15:37 AM
Ok, it was suggested that a new thread be started for this. Darin wants to host another bonfire and barn dance, but no hayride this time, unless people really want one. At any rate we are thinking Nov. 7th or 21st, but we have to have people speak up and say they are interested or it is not going to happen, as Sugarbush won't give us the barn if we don't have enough people. So let's hear from you.

RDtoo

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Believe! Posted: 10/6/2009 10:22:13 PM
Well, I'll say it again. Instead of taking the opportunity to discuss and explore why one believes what they do, this thread has just sunk to people taking potshots at one another. The whole kitchen sink is here from evolution to homosexuality. Maybe the "why" of belief is simply so we can tell other people they are wrong?

RDtoo

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Believe! Posted: 10/5/2009 11:19:27 PM
anotherbrickinthewall, just because you have never met another atheist who would admit to the things I claimed, dosen't mean it is not so. Besides my statement was not meant to be all encompassing. Most people, not all, have a need to worship whether they realize it or not. I just finished watching a sports talk show where they hosts were involved in Brett Farve worship, but I am sure they would deny it.

RDtoo

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Hayride and Bonfire Posted: 10/5/2009 11:02:51 PM
The problem is most of the people who would be interested, don't even read the forums. So I guess we will never know if people were interested or not. Too bad.

RDtoo

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Believe! Posted: 10/4/2009 9:42:27 PM
While there probably is an "organic need" for people to believe in reward and punishment, over the years I have observed the same organic need for people to worship. I think we are born with an inherent need to worship. If we do not worship God, then we will worship something else. Self, money, Elvis, nature, something. I have noticed atheists who say they do not believe in God, seem to hold their own moral code in such high esteem, that it becomes a type of worship. Now I do not mean that people will get down on their knees and bow down before something other than God, but the value and adoration we put on an object is, like it or not, a form of worship. Reading some of the comments about belief in God being a learned behavior, I am reminded of Helen Keller. Helen, you will recall was blind and deaf from infancy. It took dedicated people years and years to be able to communicate with her. After communication was established, someone thought it might be a good idea to explain the concept of God to Helen. When they communicated this to her, she communicated back "I've known about Him for years, I just didn't know what you called Him". Hmmm.

RDtoo

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Detroit Tiger Talk Posted: 10/4/2009 12:13:26 AM
It looks like the inconsistent hitting has fianally caught up with the Tigers. They have been in first place since May and now are on the verge of giving that up on the last day of the season. They are choking at the worst possible time and this is going to be a weight around their neck for a long time. The thing is, any other time the Tigers have came this close to the play-offs, everywhere you went people were talking about them. Not this time. It seems like this year, not many people were sold on getting on the Tigers bandwagon because of the inconsistency. The last hope is that the Tigers win today and the Twins lose. Judging from the last couple of days, the odds of either of those things happening look remote. I only hope 24 hours from now someone on here can say "In your face RDtoo, they won it all". (sigh)

RDtoo

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Believe! Posted: 10/3/2009 11:34:53 PM
I think the original post was an interesting topic for discussion. Too bad people use the thread to bash Christians or bash atheists or whoever disagrees with them no matter their POV. Belief is an interesting thing to consider. As a Christian, and admittedly a poor one, I am continually baffled by the narrow minded people I meet in Church. Somewhere further back in this thread someone mentioned something about when someone committs to believing one thing, they refuse to believe anything else. And I agree. I think it is dangerous to close the mind to other possibilities be it about God, politics or whatever. I have seen the same narrow close mindedness in atheists that I have seen in Christians. Ditto for Republicans and Democrats. I personally think that you can committ yourself to a belief yet be able to entertain the opposite belief without actually accepting it. I seem to be in the minority on this one.

RDtoo

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Believe! Posted: 10/3/2009 12:54:58 PM
Ross Jackson, I would be curious as to how you arrived at your conclusions. Have you actually intellectually thought all this through or just saying that because it is trendy to do so?

RDtoo

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Beware! I met a Psycho on here Posted: 9/29/2009 8:57:53 PM
An incident like this does not surprise me. Sites like this are "tailor made" for weirdos. I have even seen kooks at the POF parties. They are usually sitting off by theirself watching everything going on. If I were a woman on here I would be suspicious of any sign of anti-social behavior.

RDtoo

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Halloween Fun!! Posted: 9/28/2009 9:21:44 PM
Halloween falls on a saturday this year so I am going to be able to pass out candy for a change. As I work at night, it has been a while since I have been able to do this. Looking forward to it.

RDtoo

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Hayride and Bonfire Posted: 9/27/2009 10:32:47 PM
Plans for our next bonfire are under way, and it will be in the next month or so. Last year we thought that one bonfire in a year was enough, but the feedback we are getting is that people think this is a much better way of meeting people that the dances. Maybe we will have one once a month!

RDtoo

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~Dorr, MI-(Near Grand Rapids)-Sat. Oct. 17th-Haunted Corn Maze, Haunted Woods, Hayride, And Bonfire~ Posted: 9/27/2009 10:15:31 PM
Holy Cow! It's almost all women signed up for this thing. Aren't there any men on that side of the state???? If the answer is no, I may relocate.

RDtoo

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Favorite Autumn activity in Michigan Posted: 9/27/2009 10:02:39 PM
I was just kidding. I was trying to save Bambi by making the hunters nervous about what was going on back at home, while they were sitting out there in the woods. I really like everything about fall from the cool (not cold) weather to they hayrides, cider mills, haunted houses, bonfires and Halloween. Only drawback is my asthma really gives me problems in the fall.

RDtoo

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When the window of opportunity closes Posted: 9/27/2009 12:50:52 PM
Some good comments here. Some of you are confirming what I suspected. For the record, I am not talking about people I have met on POF but people I have met in person. For some reason I attract much more attention in person than I do on here. Must be my lousy pics. Anyways, when I say moving slow, I am not talking about 5 or 6 dates. What I mean is after just meeting someone you start getting emails everyday or pressure to call or see them immediately. I have had women tell me they love me after dating for 2 weeks. I cannot buy this. Granted, this does not always happen to me, but has happened often enough for me to start this thread.

RDtoo

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When the window of opportunity closes Posted: 9/26/2009 11:12:49 PM
I have noticed that there seems to be a "window of opportunity" when a woman expresses interest in me. If I do not act fast enough, it seems that window seems to close pretty fast. Here is my problem with this. I meet someone and they express interest in me. Instead of taking things slow, it seems like they want an "instant relationship". When I resist a bit or move slower than they would like, it seems their interest drys up as fast as it appeared. Maybe it is something I said about myself that turns them off. At any rate, the romance fizzles out before it gets started. Why is this? This does not seem like a realistic way to get to know someone. I see on women's profiles that they want to take things slow, but there are some women who want to go at lightspeed then change their minds. Anyone care to explain this to me?

RDtoo

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Does anyone use the art of seduction or mystery method on dates? Posted: 9/26/2009 10:53:00 PM
Wiyan, Mystery is a person who teaches the art of picking up women. He has had a show that ran on VH1 called "the Pick-up artist" and "the Pick-up artist 2". He took a group of nerds and turned them into studs over the course of 8 or so episodes. A PUA stands for pick-up artist. DHA is a demonstration of higher value.

RDtoo

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HAY LETS CELEBRATE JUST FOR FUN! 9/26/09 AT J-DUBS Posted: 9/25/2009 10:01:36 PM
A Rocky Horror Picture Show get together for POF'ers??? Hmmm, I like that idea. Let's do the time warp again......

RDtoo

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HAY LETS CELEBRATE JUST FOR FUN! 9/26/09 AT J-DUBS Posted: 9/23/2009 9:30:32 PM
Kath, Darin gave me access to on this thread, but I have no idea how to send out a mass email. I tryed to call Darin earlier tonight but could not get in touch with him.

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