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 Author Thread: Men and self esteem
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 108 (view)
 
Men and self esteem
Posted: 11/21/2009 8:57:32 AM
Let me tell ya 5 pages in about 24 hours....did I cause a stir? This is great we have a great debate with pros/cons. I've read all of the 5 pages and some of the debate went over to "father figure" type of discussion. Now I know fathers do have a influence on our lives men and women. But that is not what this thread is about.

I've actually been thinking about this topic for quite a while and the Dove commercial kind of triggered a avenue to express my opinion. IMO and probably fact (I've got 15 minutes before I have to be at work so no time for research) that there are far more clinics for women with self esteem issues than men. If a man goes to his teacher, coach, dad, even a religious guide. 95% of the time he is told to "suck it up" or "be a man." "face the facts" stuff like that.

I've never been big on TV, in fact commercials are the main reason I dislike TV. Your watching your "show" at a normal volume level of 10 and suddenly the commercial is like 20 and they are talking about condoms. lol. I've known for a long time that commercials are "geared" to sell and sell primarily to women. Oh well I "face the facts" sorry I had to. But that doesn't mean that men should be "pushed to the curb" or "thrown under the bus" just because of our gender.

Some posters misinterpreted the post one in particular saying that it seems like I'm "blaming someone." I'm not, but if I was isn't that the way of the world, most people hardly ever take blame for anything. I see it every day at work. A coupon expires they blame "not enough time." Late for work? About a 1000 excuses for that. Someone smokes too much "cannot take the stress of life." I mean what's the difference if I was blaming someone or something or not.

It doesn't change the discussion and fact that men cannot have low self esteem and if he does he is a wimp or gay or something. NOT A MAN.

Thanks to the ones that stayed on topic and answered respectfully and intellectually. Keep them coming this is a good topic.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Men and self esteem
Posted: 11/20/2009 8:38:50 AM
Hello gang. I've got a question. I was watching TV last night and saw a Dove Soap commercial

Here is the url

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHX6frPHpQo

The name of the commercial is "girls are under pressure." In the commercial if you've not seen it or don't want to watch it, the commercial shows pics of beautiful women. All being watched by a young girl maybe at most 7 years old. Then it states women are under more and more pressure and how Dove has created workshops to help these young girls believe in themselves that they are beautiful.

Now this is not about the self esteem problems in women, we've all seen on TV and real life what women do to try and stay beautiful. {FACT} I am not saying this against women so don't misinterpret my post.

But what about the guys? Aren't there self esteem problems in men? Just like in a way, imo, the commercial is saying that not every little girl is going to grow up to be like the images on the TV screen but she should still consider herself beautiful. So in stating that, not every little boy is going to grow up with 6 pack abs and look like the main character in Twilight. There is going to be guys out there that are going to be made fun of wither they are a nerd, geek, shy, nice guy etc. There are going to be guys that are people are going to call homosexual (pc term, the real term people will use is much meaner.) just because they don't have a girl friend. They could not have a girl friend because they are shy or just because they want to concentrate on there education and future but the other people will knock there self esteem and call them names.

Are there commercials about trying to improve the same self esteem issues in boys? If there is someone enlighten me. I'm sure there is books and blogs but not mainstream like a commercial would be.

So in closing let me ask one more time what about the guys?

Best of luck to everyone

Edit: I'm not sure this is the right place to post this I put it here because I know this section is a popular one being the 1st one on the list. Sorry to the mods if it is the wrong place. If it is please feel free to place it in the right forum thanks
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 43 (view)
 
school first or relationship first?
Posted: 11/18/2009 7:43:55 AM
This is a personal choice that is hard to make. go I'm just above 30 and I've seen a life time of both choices already. I work with women and men who have gone back to school to better themselves. Wither they've given it up for a relationship or even just a break from school. I've been personally trying to go back to school for some time now. Even at 30ish I'm still not sure what I want to do in the long term of life.

So I'm part of the people who has tried and tried to do better but cannot get motivated. If I could go back in time and do it over I would do better in high school and went on to a college. Who knows where I might be in my life. I come from a lower middle class family so the only way I would have been able to go to a bigger college is if I got a scholarship. But given all the major universities that are in my area are very high priced I would've had to move and my parents didn't want me to leave. My step-dad owns a mowing business and my mom wanted me to help him and work for room and board. Only make enough money to do some stuff every so often. The reason behind this is that she didn't want to pay someone else to help him. Well that didn't happen. I didn't see it until it was too late to try harder in school but now I do. I did get my own job and moved out.

Do I regret how my life has turned out? Most of the time. But I understand that things happen for a reason. I can always go back to school and better myself.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 122 (view)
 
Texting while on a date
Posted: 11/17/2009 12:36:42 PM
I agree about texting if its a emergency or just a quick reply to text later or call back later. But to conduct a convo with someone while on a date is just all in out RUDE!!

I've got sick immediate family members so my phone is never off unless it dies from forgetting to charge. But if I was getting numerous texts from someone even after I told them to not text right now. I would put my phone on silent and ignore the texts not the date.

The last date I went on, the girl did that to me. I've yet to get back in contact with her because of her texting and ignoring me.

It's all about respect and honor.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 611 (view)
 
why do men always have to look at other women!!
Posted: 11/16/2009 11:22:03 AM
I don't see a problem with it. We've got eyes. Like a commercial I saw that the guy was checking out the hot girls with the mirror on his phone only to be interrupted by his girl friend who texted him. Only to roll her eyes and laugh.

Now when I'm in a relationship I am still going to look but not stare. Right now I look and sometimes stare. I get caught if I want to get caught. That way she knows I'm interested.

It's a good way to get noticed sometimes.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 41 (view)
 
Dating A Single Child
Posted: 11/16/2009 11:09:23 AM
I'm practically a single child. Me and my sister are 7 years apart in age, she is the older of the 2. She was a 80's teenager and I was a 90's teenager. My mom raised us almost complete opposite. My sister was allowed to do whatever she wanted, she even stayed with family members a whole summer in Ohio, we're from Virginia, she got all the nicer things handed to her and I had to work for everything. I paid for my junior and senior prom with money I earned with my own job.

She is still spoiled rotten whining about when she doesn't get her way. While I just truck along and work my 40 hours and go home and be a good son.

My dad is a only child and he was a little spoiled before he was 10 in the younger stages but when he started becoming a adult my grandparents "cracked the whip" and set him straight even sent him to military school.

I would date a only child but only if she wasn't a spoiled only child. No IMO a woman or man can be spoiled as a child if they was the only male or female. IE children 4 males 1 female. Also the fact is some people don't know how to parent anymore. The way society is that a man has to move out at 18 before he is ready just because he is a male. Yes it makes us stronger but still there shouldn't be a have to do anything just because society demands it.

My mom is the baby of 13 and my dad is a only child. They lasted for almost 20 years and had 2 children together. I'm not at liberty to disclose the reason they divorced but I can say that it was mutual and for the best not because of something bad.

I have entire counties I'm related to one side or the other and I am afraid to date someone without knowing there heritage. I may date a 3rd cousin or something which after a few generations it doesn't matter but still.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 837 (view)
 
Do women cook anymore??
Posted: 11/14/2009 11:45:22 AM
I can cook.....I can cook good...why do I cook because even though eating out is pretty simple and easy I like "homemade" food the best. Like a pizza would you rather someone say you have to have so much toppings or would you rather just do it yourself.

I eat out a lot because I hardly ever pack my lunch for my break at work. So enough is enough.

On to the actual post saying women have to cook is bad. To me that's like a gender slam on guys have to know how to do home improvement. Today there is hardly any gender based "jobs" at home or even in the workplace. I know men who can cook better than my grandmother and I know women who can build a deck better than my grandfather. Its the world today. Face the facts and get with the program women don't have to cook as much as men don't have to build a deck.

Best of luck to everyone

 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 55 (view)
 
Possible for a man to love two women at once?
Posted: 11/14/2009 6:44:22 AM
When I 1st read this I missed that she found the letters. Now wither she was snooping or not is objective. But if someone has written stuff w/o sending it for the most part it was never meant to be sent. He was just trying to write something to get it "off his chest." I don't know how many times girls that I grew up with had journals and diaries. Maybe it was the same for him. Today the worlds blogs online have replaced the diaries. I've got a few out there for the most part they are public but there are one or two that are private. The private ones are the ones that unless you have my user name and password no one is going to see unless they want to hack for a blog. If they really are that desperate they can read it.

If she was snooping to find something I do not agree with that. This was his personal belongings stuff that was only for his eyes. His venting material. If she wasn't and just accidentally found them and just read them. Then that isn't as bad but she still read the letters.

One question? How did the paper look? Was it brand new? Was it old? Was it faded? It could have been written when they 1st broke up before he found the OP. Or before they was "serious" when it was still in it's infancy stage of the relationship.

Let me insert something here. My parents have been divorced for almost 25 years. When I've asked my dad if he still loves my mom he always says "I will always love her because she gave me two beautiful children" I have a sister. But that is a different kind of love. That is a love of honor. I will always have a piece in my heart for my 1st love even though she cheated on me. Now can/will me and/or my father love again. Hell ya but we will always remember.

But best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 25 (view)
 
Possible for a man to love two women at once?
Posted: 11/13/2009 10:38:16 AM
OP and other women? Could you love two men at once? If the shoe was on the other foot?

The reason I ask isn't necessary love but it could be. I get hit on daily by married women. Almost like I've got a target on my forehead. I've not had a relationship in a long time and its getting very tempting even though my morals say no.

On to the OP's post I'd say make him decide wither he wants you or her. No if, and or but. One or the other. He doesn't need to keep you or his ex/wife on hold while he makes the decision.

Best of luck
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 78 (view)
 
Second chances?
Posted: 11/11/2009 10:08:55 AM
I personally believe in 2nd chances. If its for the right reasons.

I agree that if I ask someone out and she says no, then later she says yes, then I will/would probably go out 0n a date with her.

If the break up is for mutual reasons like if we was dating then it became a ltr and we didn't want to do that and then we met back up then I'd probably say yes as well.

If its due to a stupid argument that we got "carried" away with then I'd probably stay with her if I was in Love.

If its due to excessive lying, cheating, addiction, etc then no more than 1 2nd chance. Esp for the addiction. People can change but if they cannot prove themselves that they did change or do the same thing again sorry but not for me.

I don't believe in more than 1 2nd chance. No 4th or 5th just a 2nd chance.

Just to add that if it was someone verbally and/or physically abusive to me or my children (if/when I have children). Then no 2nd chance period.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
Online Dating v Traditional Methods of Dating
Posted: 11/11/2009 8:57:39 AM
I was going to email you on my opinion but your not accepting any emails from people far away my answer is kind of long so I'd rather not post it on here so if you want to email me 1st or change your settings for this

Thanks
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 109 (view)
 
Is porn ruining real live sex?
Posted: 11/9/2009 11:57:42 AM
After reading most of the posts there is a lot of negativity with this subject. I look at porn when I'm single (which I currently am). But when I'm in a relationship I don't esp if my s/o doesn't like it. Living in a "Bible Belt" I've got a 80% that she won't like porn.

I agree that a lot of the movies are boring. Very boring, but when your doing the deed you could care less about plot.

If someone is addicted to porn then it is a whole another animal. Kind of like a alcoholic that won't stop drinking. It can be a problem. But like alcohol it is fine in moderation.

Any person can get addicted to anything. We as humans can get addicted to sex, drugs, alcohol, caffeine, coffee, cigarettes, sleep, etc. We are a addicted bunch of people. Its human nature. But like I said in moderation there is nothing wrong with porn.

Sex is more and more on TV, songs, the net, etc . Its everywhere, but "sex sells" look at some of the ads out there that have nothing to do with sex but it has it in the advertisement. I saw this commercial that had a man and woman making love and they stop in the middle and the man says "we've really got to change our ceiling fan" and it shows some major brand of ceiling fan makers.

Sin City (Vegas) is based on sex. The entire city has sexy women and men parading themselves in little to no clothing to advertise something (sometimes prostitution). Its every where. In our lives and here to stay wither we like it or not.

Sorry for the rant best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Is porn ruining real live sex?
Posted: 11/5/2009 8:18:31 AM
tuffluv1984


I've read an interesting piece:


The latest to take porn to task for ruining modern ****ing is Salon's Mary Elizabeth Williams. She writes,

"Convenience, ubiquity, and the goal-oriented, money-shot, male-centric perspective of most porn (hint: women don't need to see that much fellatio) have changed us. Much has been written on how porn's transformation into the modern sexual lingua franca affects women – the pressure to be bush-shaved and adept at pole dancing didn't come from Oprah or Martha Stewart. But porn has changed men too – what we expect of them, what they demand of themselves. And the problem is that thinking you can learn to make to love to a woman from watching porn is like thinking you can learn to drive from watching "The Fast and the Furious."

Her point is that dudes who watch too much Ron Jeremy think that women want to be jackhammered — or, more upsettingly, that they enjoy a man "withdrawing his member at key moments to thump it on"

http://jezebel.com/5395261/do-we-need-to-be-told-how-to-have-sex

What is your perspective?


I think for men and women who take porn too seriously. Yes it has effected them in the bedroom. But then again those same people are probably taking what Jay Leno and/or David Letterman says seriously every night. They probably watch a Sly Stallone movie and think they can do the same thing physically as well.

In my opinion is that the people that would take movies (no matter what genre) seriously have a problem anyways.

Something that could be interpreted incorrectly is the Oprah and Martha statement. That could be saying that if someone doesn't see something on there then it isn't right? So they are the word of the people? So they tell everyone to jump off the Empire State Building would they do it because Oprah said so? This could be a promotion for them. Watch Oprah and she knows EVERYTHING and if she says something is wrong don't do it. Come on; in a way someone that believes that is just as bad as someone who would believe porn movies IMO.

Not downing Oprah or Martha just stating the facts Ma'am.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 292 (view)
 
I Don't Need A Man.., I very Independent..etc etc = RED Flags?
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:58:46 AM

I Don't Need A Man.., I very Independent..etc etc = RED Flags?


This is a very confusing statement. I could think of 1000's like it. Is it a red flag? No not really.

I don't need a woman in my life, never have never will need a woman. Do I want a woman in my life Hell ya!!!
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 78 (view)
 
What if the woman makes more money than the man.
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:49:02 AM
I say send the money making women my way. That means she's doing well in life esp. with the economy the way it is.

If I was in relationship and she ended up making more than me...that would be great not a problem. But then again I've had a lot of women as bosses at my jobs over the years so it's normal to me.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 32 (view)
 
Lesbian?
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:40:16 AM
Thanks for all the recent responses.

Just a update, me and the girl tapered off we've not been in contact in quite a while. I decided she was too immature for me. I was looking for what ever then now I've gotten back on course and looking for something a little more substantial.

Age had some of her immaturity but there are instances where age does not matter. I've seen men and women act like big babies if they don't get what they want. Oh well best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Careers that Drain Your Energy
Posted: 11/3/2009 5:54:35 AM
My dad talked to me about how his father, my grandfather, owned a hotel. He was never home, he tried to "do it himself" with hardly any help because he just didn't want to pay someone to help him. He wanted all the money and glory. He was a workaholic. My dad saw that and lived with that but yet he did it himself. He was always working. My mom is close to 60 and still works 12 hour shifts. My step-dad owns his own business and yes there are days he works 7-5 but for the most part its more like 7-7 or later.

I personally work 40 hours at a retail job. I want a 2nd job because I want to save some money but then again if I do that I am also following my own families path of being workaholics. When I was 21 I went to college and held down 2 jobs and kept a B average. My situation has always been either work a lot and have plenty 0f money and no time or work a little and have time but no money. I'd rather have the plenty of money. I'm not greedy like my grandfather but I still want to do the things I love to do.

It is a very hard thing to balance. Who hurts the most with this isn't the person working all the time but there family and friends. I don't know how many times my family has called to tell me about the next reunion or get together and I cannot because of my job. Grant it my family is very spontaneous so if they planned ahead of time and gave me notice I probably could get with them because I could request those days off.

But at the same time if I had a Mon-Fri 9-5 job like the general population has I could do these things because the majority of them happen on the weekends.

I would love to have the time and energy to do everything I want to do. But I must reserve that for the things I NEED to do.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 182 (view)
 
why only date good looking prima donna's?
Posted: 11/1/2009 8:51:18 AM

why only date good looking prima donna's?


Why not? If women can get away with only wanting men that give them that "umph" why can't we have the women that give us that as well? I mean this is exactly what I was talking about in the other post. People putting labels on others because they cannot have what they want. Calling out "REAL MEN" come on. So I'm less of a man because I don't want to date someone that I find unattractive? I don't think so.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 116 (view)
 
How to build chemistry with the nice guy after always going for the bad boy?
Posted: 11/1/2009 6:31:24 AM
Hello everyone,

My best friend and I was talking about this very subject a couple of days ago. And we both agreed that the worst thing about the nice guy/bad boy war was that there is a "label." We are both nether and we are proud to say we don't need no damn label to prove what we are.

Anyways for both labels its the stereotypes that I hate the most. The stereotype that a "bad boy" will end up beating up his s/o. Also the stereotype that a "nice guy" will be a whiny baby and get mad if he doesn't get his way. I mean come on peoples aren't we better than that to label someone.

Yes I myself am also guilty of the stereotypes. I look in the mirror everyday. I don't want a nice girl, I don't want daddy's girl, I don't even want the girl next door. I want a woman who will treat me right and love me for as much as I love her. One that will not lie to me or cheat. She could be sitting next to me right now or even in another state but I know I will find someone.

Thank you best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 47 (view)
 
mate poaching (women who insist on taking another woman's man)?
Posted: 10/31/2009 6:47:40 AM
This makes me think of a 80's high school movie where the guy is a nerd and he buys the hot girl a dress or ring over the summer. Well to pay him back he tells her to "pretend" they are dating so that he could get noticed by other girls. It works from day one. But the hot girl falls in love with him after she makes him "better" dressed and builds his confidence. Kind of sappy but this thread made me remember that from my youth.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 55 (view)
 
How to build chemistry with the nice guy after always going for the bad boy?
Posted: 10/26/2009 11:30:31 AM
justaplatonicfriend

Good to see the "flip of the coin" of the bad boy/nice guy wars out there.

I've got a observation that I'd like to address. In my opinion the bad boy is to women what a perfect 10 is to guys. Different terminology but the same meaning. Everyone knows what the general perfect 10 is for guys. The hot/sexy woman that everyone wants, but cannot have. The unicorn. The same goes for the bad boy term for women. He is the strong umph guy that women love.

Both sexes of this unicorn have pros/cons with everything. With the bad boy you could be getting a guy that would lie and cheat on you. He could also beat you and leave you out in the middle of no where. Then again he could just have the "image" and is truly a good guy that loves and cares for you.

Then with the perfect 10 for men. The guy could be getting a woman that would lie and cheat on you. She could also be very mean by not doing what she says. Then again she could also have the "image" of the perfect 10 and is truly a great woman that loves and cares for you.

I really don't like the stereo types of both sexes. But as everyone knows there is always someone out there that is always going to bash and dis something they are not. The "nice guy" bashing all the bad boys. The overweight girls dissing the skinny perfect 10's. It's a fact of life. Like the old saying "you cannot please everyone."

But on to some comments


Kimberish

So he is kind of cute...go with that! He treats you well, is what matters here. I do understand the need to be attracted to him, but kind of cute compared to abusive in any way is so much better. Remember looks will fade (yours too) but abusive people tend to stay abusive.


This is so in both sexes


angelsback

eh...nice guys can end up being douchebags too. Trust me I know. Did the same thing that you talk about, after many years of being with hot guys that either lied, cheated, or whatever.... I met a "nice" guy, not too attractive, married him (I thought for life). Dealt with his ED issues, but in the end (9 years later) he and a married co-worker of his/mine had an affair. He turned into a complete douchebag and wrecked my fairytale ending. Now we are divorced. Personally, I'm going back to dating hot guys.


The only problem I have with this statement is the "a" as in one. So the poster is going to give up on "all" nice guys just because of one. What if I said the same about a overweight woman that I dated/married one and now just going after hot girls. Would that still be just imo or would I get bashed.


ImxAxLush

I made the mistake of dating a nice, but not so cute guy. He treated me so well, yet I couldn't stand to be around him if I was sober. I literally had to be drunk to even let him touch me. Otherwise, I was kind of repulsed by his looks. He had a great personality though. Anyways, I cut it off with him. There's no point of wasting each other's time.


I feel ya on that if I cannot stand the way they look and would only come close if drunk then I'd leave her as well. Let her/him find someone that isn't repulsed and let them be happy.


GrandmaBooBoo

LOL! well, I think that "nice guys" are highly overrated.

Simple reason being....they usually aren't! (nice guys) BooBoo's unabridged dictionary says: nis- gis: "wimps who beg women to use and abuse them so they'll have something to whine about!"

They're just the flip side of the same coin: "jerks". Overt vs. covert or / aggressive vs. passive/aggressive.

LOL! so, ahhhh, just pass all those "bad boys" on to Granny!!! Grrrrrrrrrrr, I mean....prrrrrrrrr!!!! LOL!

Ok, now, SERIOUSLY, No, "nice guys" are no better bet as relationship material than the "bad boys" are. In fact, they may be worse...with that "but I'm a nice guy" routine! Nothing worse than being manipulated by "guilt". Come on...you know what I'm talking about!!! You can't say 'no' to anything....'cause he's just such a damned nice guy! What's that??? Ohhhh, can't spend this Christmas with YOUR family (after all, you've been with his for the last 5 years) cause...well, hey...he's such a nice guy...and so sensitive, and well....he really "needs" those emotional bonds more than....average guys or bad boys.

nahhhh, you keep the "nice ones". I'll take just an average one....who leans a little toward the "saying what he thinks" side (bad boy) anyday.


I feel ya on tired of the whinny nice guy routine on here and real life. I was one of them, but got tired of hearing myself. I hate guilt trips from anyone. My sister is the best at those you'll just have to trust me, (you can email me and I'll tell ya all about them if you wish).

But like I said before not "all" nice guys and bad boys are the same. For every 100 of each there maybe even 90 true to there term but there are that 10 that will surprise everyone. The ones that have been stereotyped and no one will date because of that stereotype.

Anyone that wants to email me or just leave me a comment on here is more than welcome.

Any ways best of luck to everyone




 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 56 (view)
 
Firgiving a cheating spouse?
Posted: 10/13/2009 3:36:59 PM
Alright I want to put the shoe on the other foot what if it was the op was the woman. Saying the same thing. Everyone on here would beg her to leave him.

I say she was only being wishy washy about the whole ordeal because her current b/f could not decide wither or not he wanted her. Or even visa versa. Because her b/f couldn't provide for her she wants to use your kindness and love for her to get things that she could not have since she cannot afford a place on her own. Talk about gold digger.

If you take her back 3 months later she will be back to her old tricks. She is just using you.

Move on and find someone who will love and cherish you not someone who just wants "what have you done for me lately."

Best of luck
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
A question to the Ladies....
Posted: 9/30/2009 8:47:26 AM
Before I read all the pages of this thread. I'm going to say that my sister was all the time using psychology stuff like this. Blaming mommy and/or daddy for how she reacts to things. Saying this and that. They held me too much or not enough....choose your cliche.

It all boils down to nothing. I was there during all those times and 9 times out of 10 she was treated the best out of the 2 of us. While we was growing up she always got the most costly clothing and all the high powered stereos....etc. I got the small toy....the cheapest clothing....having to earn everything. I got a job at 16 and purchased my own tux for the prom. I paid for my date. She always had someone there to bail her out. Wither it was our mom and/or dad or grandparents. She always had someone there to take care of her.

I'm 7 years younger but I feel like that I am 30 years wiser than her. She has messed up her brain with drugs and alcohol. The only thing missing from my life is a S/O. I'm going to wine a little bit and say that its a shame that someone who takes nothing for granted and always would mooch off of other people has never been single. She's always had a guy there. Then you've got me who's earned everything never took anything for granted. Cannot get a g/f. Life is unfair. But I don't sit there and blame mommy and/or daddy for my problems past and present. I look in the mirror and say this is what's wrong and I'm to blame for the why.

Yes I've got some girlish traits to being raised by my mother, my dad was disabled so I never got to go play ball with my dad. But you know what I'm a grown man and I now know why they did this. Overall it made me a better man. Inside and out.

This is my opinion and I own it. Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
At what age were you truly ready?
Posted: 9/27/2009 1:25:39 PM
I think that I'm ready now at 32. I thought I was ready to have a serious relationship at around 25. That was when I had my 1st one. I was ready but she wasn't. She ended up cheating on me. Sad but true.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 49 (view)
 
Have you ever risked it when the pic just didn't do it for you?
Posted: 9/24/2009 9:20:48 AM
I'm personally not very photogenic. I've hated every pic I've ever had made. I've taken in account of women could be the same. If someone is a 7 in a pic then for the most part they are a 8 or 9 in RL. But I still have the 1-10 scale when I see a pic. If I don't find them at least a little bit attractive in the pic then I know I won't find them attractive in RL.

This was not about how people don't match there pic but since someone brought it up. I'm sure there are 1000's of examples of personalities not matching pics. Just as a side note when I was working for a pizza business I would take orders over the phone. Well I would try and match the voice with the face before they gave me there name. Its rather a fun thing to do. I was pretty good at it.

I've not had many experiences of there personalities in RL not matching there profile and/or pic. But the ones I've had have turned out to be a terrible experience.

But best of luck to everyone.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 56 (view)
 
this is why guys want older women
Posted: 9/20/2009 5:05:04 PM

I couldn't find this on the net, please do site the station, the reporter, etc. To my knowledge 16 is the age where charges can't be filed and this kid was 17 and didn't tell her. Sounds like a total BS story.


aaamm ~ I don't know if she was lying or not but I heard it on Electric 94.9. The site comes up first when I googled it. But It was on Izzy and Ginger in the morning. I'm sure you could email one or the other to verify that someone did say it on the radio.

But like I said I just heard it on the radio yesterday and thought there reacti0n was amazing. That they was like aww poor thing and stuff. I live in Va and I know the legal age of consent is 18. Va is a commonwealth state so we've got a lot of BS laws. Also in VA the parents can press charges even if it was consent, if it is a minor. Feel free to provide the link to prove me wrong.

edit: I just googled VA age of consent and it is actually 18 if by someone older than 18. But you can have sex legally if you are between 15 and 18 and the other party is the same age range. I live really close to TN and there law is the 4 year law. But 43 and 17 is NOT 4 years

Like I said idk if the story is bs but me hearing it on the radio is true blue.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
this is why guys want older women
Posted: 9/19/2009 6:19:49 AM
Alright I just heard this on the radio five minutes ago in my car. I had to find some public wifi so that I could post this before I forgot. On the radio they was talking about keeping secrets. Well this one woman was saying her secret got out and she got in trouble with Joe Law. Let me explain how this is relevant.

She said when she was separated from her husband (not divorced, separated). She went out with this guy and had a one night stand. She later found out he was something like 6 months from being 18. She is 43. Well she told a girlfriend of her's what happened. It went from friend to friend. She got back with her husband not too long after that and he got wind of it. And then her husband turned her into the police. Who pressed charged and she is now listed as a sex offender. Now what's surprising the most is the radio personalities reaction. They was like "awww you poor thing...." Acting like that it wasn't her fought and sorry and stuff. And everyone knows that if the situation was visa versa a 43 year old man with a 17 year old woman. They would act all grossed out and saying stuff like dirty old man and what not.

I'm still in awe with there reaction to this. She shouldn't have went out esp. since she was still married. Second she shouldn't had a one night stand. Third she should have went for someone her own age range (10 years both ways) not being a cougar. Just to see what its like. So you see girls and guys, women can get in trouble for this as well.

I'm done with my spill. Carry on
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 42 (view)
 
this is why guys want older women
Posted: 9/18/2009 10:55:35 AM

But go cougars- take advantage, but in the long run it hurts the younger guy



How so?


It would hurt the young man like in the visa versa and it would hurt young women if being approached by older men. LOL If a woman gets a man whose at a different stage in his life it could hurt his growth as a adult. The same visa versa as well.

For me someone more than 14 years younger is Illegal. That's one of the reasons. Another is that I'm matured someone (even women) at 18 isn't that mature. This is a general statement there are "diamonds in the rough" but the majority of them are immature.

So no more than 10 years younger. For maturity and they are at different stages of there life.

As of older women I just don't want someone more than 10 years older. I've just got preferences.

Best of luck to everyone.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 132 (view)
 
Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 1:26:26 PM
I personally don't have a problem with it as long as whom my s/o may be isn't a flunky. If its just every so often about once a month at most. I don't think its as bad as alcohol. If you look at the stats for driving under the influence pot is at most 5% of all accidents vs alcohol which is in the 1000's every year.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Exesive Flirting. Should we stop?
Posted: 9/14/2009 12:39:55 PM
Let me start that if it wasn't for flirting I would have a boring day at work. It's not heavy flirting but a light flirting. It may get a little more depending on how much I know and/or like them. Because most of my acquaintances that are girls know that I love to flirt.

But for your specific situation I don't think you should stop. I think that you both know that your just stroking each others ego. I love to flirt and have hottie girls that are friends flirt back because it shows the other girls that I'm a decent guy. Almost in essence that "if he's good enough for them he's good enough for me." Most of the girls that do that for me are in relationship and know that I would appreciate all the help I can get. It also strokes my ego. Once a good looking girl flirts with me it gives me confidence that I can get with anyone. So they are helping me in more ways than one.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
What Makes You Say, Yeah, Right?
Posted: 9/7/2009 4:38:07 PM

So should someone spend money just because they have it? Maybe some people have money, because they spend it wisely.


Valid point but a lot of times the other person don't see it that way. They see it as men being cheap and not wanting to pay for it. Not that they spend it wisely.

One thing I dislike is all the negativity to our men/women in police uniforms. Not all of them turn into power hungry hotheads like you see on cop shows. The same with lawyers. I've known quite a few of them that if I had a chance I would date in a heartbeat.

The only reason I wouldn't date a cop is the here today gone tomorrow thing. Not the reputation of a few "BAD apples." But I generally don't stereotype a profession or a type of person man or woman.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 44 (view)
 
What Makes You Say, Yeah, Right?
Posted: 9/4/2009 11:46:38 AM
I don't have a specific profession that I say yeah right to. But I agree that if they make a lot of money at the so called profession why are they on a free dating site. They've got the money to pay for the others.

I also agree that I don't want to date someone that is in a dangerous profession. One type of profession that hasn't been mentioned is construction. What's more dangerous than having equipment around that make your house look tiny. I also wouldn't date someone in a profession that they are gone more than the average 40 hours a week. Someone who is "married' to there job.

But I've been working since I was 16. I've been paying for my own stuff since then so I guess I don't know what its like to "have it all." Thus I want someone with the same drive and work ethnic as me. Not too much of a requirement I don't think.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 153 (view)
 
Does this drive all men nuts?
Posted: 9/4/2009 10:56:52 AM
This is a type of guy thing. If your guy is the Alpha Male aka jock, biker dude, etc. He's going to have trouble doing this. If he's the metro sexual or even a feminine (not gay or bi)he's not going to have trouble keeping up with this.

Best of luck
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 73 (view)
 
whats up with the NO DRAMA on profiles
Posted: 9/4/2009 10:33:31 AM
Alright there is two active threads in the same category about drama. Sorry only I would notice that. I admit I've not read all 3 pages so I don't know if I'm repeating what others have said.

But when I say/see no drama it means that the person is tired of fighting just because MacDonald's put salt on there fries even though they didn't ask them not to. Yes everyone has a past both good and bad. Its how we conduct ourselves when we address the past.

i.e. If a man who doesn't really like bigger women but decided to "give it a go" and dates one. She ends up being a psycho b1tch class A. All she does is complain and whine about things. She even ends up cheating on him. Now if the guy stereotypes all bigger women to the one he dated he portrays it in a negative light but if he says ok that's just her 100 others maybe different so he's portraying it in a positive light.

I mean I could write a book on examples but if no one reads it, it wouldn't matter. My point is that it all depends on how the person reacts to certain things. If a woman (since I'm heterosexual) in my life is someone that "doesn't sweet the small stuff" then in my eyes she is a drama queen.

Something that I want to address is that the way women react (on these forums) is that the same as nice guys. They are reacting like "no drama means a 100 things bad" the guys just want a FWB and not a woman. Well in my opinion that's the same as the nice guys saying the same. "I'm a nice guy a woman wants a bad boy I'm going to associate all women as this classification" Some of the women who are seeing this in a negative light or assuming the guys who say it doesn't know what they are talking about. I'm sorry but its true. They are whining just like the nice guys would on the "nice guys finish last threads" Its very comparable to me.

Oh well best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 203 (view)
 
Why Are Men Over 30 Drama Shy?
Posted: 9/1/2009 9:42:11 AM

It's secret code for "I'm really an unsupportive man"...If you have any problem in your life I don't wanna talk about it and I'm not gonna help you....It is an overused term...I will be glad when the trendy use of it drops...We have a brainless society sometimes that is selfish and jumps on the trendy labeling bandwagon and will use this term of "no drama" until it is ragged and worn and will be glad when it turns into dust....I'm glad to see some wisen up to the use of it...

There can be some issues that REALLY ARE DRAMA...the small issues blown out of proportion and I know that may be why the labeling started, but some guys and gals have jumped on the band wagon and abused this term...It's become secret code for "shut up and don't talk...I just wanna have sex with you...i have no use for u as a human being and could care less about your life"...

Supportive men are getting few and far between..it's gettin scary out there...

These guys that dodge drama may have a closet full of skeletons too..


Ok wtf "I'm really an unsupportive man." Just because we don't want any
drama doesn't mean we wouldn't support the woman not only financially but mentally.

I do agree that it is a overused term. A lot of times its thrown out there when the guy cannot think of any other reason he broke or breaking up with her. He'll just say she was a drama queen and the other people in his circle of friends understand the why?

Supportive men are few and far between out there but for the most part those guys are the guys that most women wouldn't date for some other bs reason. Oh I forgot a woman can have choices and be selective a guy has to take what he can get and be happy with it.

Oh well best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 184 (view)
 
Why Are Men Over 30 Drama Shy?
Posted: 8/25/2009 12:58:28 PM
I've not read the entire 8 pages just the 1st one with the list


: 1. A no strings attached relationship - no rules no expectations (low maintenance sex?}


This would be considered fwb not no drama


2. A woman who doesnt have a psycho baby daddy just released from the penitentiary shacked up at the bottom of her driveway (this one I can understand haha)


This is a definite red flag for me. If that happens to me I will just casually walk away and never talk to her again esp if she told me something completely different about her ex like "you'll love him" RIGHT.


3. A woman who can pay her own bills, has money in the bank, and no hungry mouths to feed ie. no children (how are children drama - this guy is an idiot possibly)


I can understand them all but the last one with the no children. It is possible to find a woman above 30 w/o children esp the ones that have gone through college and has waited until she completed college to have children. But for the most part this is not the case. So to call someone a drama queen just because of children is silly.


4. A woman who knows her place and doesn't talk back (ummm ok .. sure buddy)


This isn't a woman but a doll. lol

I've not got the time to insert what I think a drama queen is but I will shortly

Best of luck to everyone







 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 168 (view)
 
Where are the love-help articles for men?!
Posted: 8/25/2009 12:44:46 PM
OP ~ I know what you mean. I'm tired of seeing Cosmo and all the other woman's mags that are saying this and that advice about getting a man or self help about their current guy.

I'm also tired of looking for a clothing and only having a corner section in the store as well. I'm tired of going out to eat and being called everything but straight for not ordering a beer.

Even though most of the Cosmo and other self help things are written for women by women, if there is one for men written by a man the man is discredited for not knowing a woman because he is not a woman. Well what about discrediting the women writing about men that's fine women know men but not visa versa.

Then if the book for a man is written by a woman its still not fine because she is just one woman not knowing how "all" women think. So no matter who the self help is written by the man cannot win. He is screwed. So we just got to talk it over with our friends and hope they are true friends and understand or spend some more of that hard earned money and get professional help. Why because we are a man and shouldn't need help.

Sorry for the rant.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 49 (view)
 
Age differences in dating - What's the gap for you?
Posted: 8/19/2009 11:08:29 AM
I noticed someone has recently added to this thread. I just got to add something about maturity. In case you haven't read any of my posts I work in retail. Well yesterday a middle aged woman was in line. Our computers went down, no big deal just got to call IT and have them reset the server. Well she was being more impatient than a 5 year old. She was harking and complaining to me and my cashier. I finally just walked away. I would never date someone with that was that much inpatient. She was beyond what I thought a middle aged woman should have been. I can understand she might have been in a hurry but she could have treated me and my cashier some respect. BTW the other cashier is 18 and she has twice as much maturity of this middle aged woman.

Sorry for the small rant just wanted to throw that out.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 45 (view)
 
Guys - how can I suss out the Jekyl and Hyde men?
Posted: 8/8/2009 7:52:20 PM
I don't know why your EX's did that. But some guys do this to break up. They not necessary do it for the woman but for themselves. If they break up with a woman they truly care about they could become heartbroken for a long time maybe even years. But if they mentally break it off before they break up. Start giving themselves more than one reason to break up then the transition is easier.

Like I said I'm not saying this is why your ex's did this or any man does this but it is a option.

I truly also believe that women are this way as well. This one guy that I knew dated this girl that was very jealous with him. Not only of other women but jealous of him watching a music video or even a sitcom that had a hottie girl in it. Well then I knew this other guy that dated her and she pointed the hottie girls out with him. It was one extreme to the next. So in a way she's Jekyl and Hyde as well.

I really don't know how to answer this other than in theory because I've not heard both sides of the story. But I will give you this advice, don't make the classic mistake and become "close minded" on men. Saying that "I've had these 2 bad men that was Jekyl and Hyde (ie) they both was under 5'5" so that means all under 5'5" men are that way." I don't know the truth to my statement esp the height but I was just thinking of a easy correlation between the 2 men. Just don't give up because of 2 bad guys. Same goes with us men to not give up do to one crazy woman.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 310 (view)
 
Why women want guys to come to THEM
Posted: 7/29/2009 10:51:55 AM
Maybe its because we have a set and women don't j/k....j/k

I quote John Wayne in the movie "The undefeated"

"son I taught you how to read men....Men will never be able to read women"

This is so true. I just watched that the other day on AMC great western. The Duke is so right even though the movie was based on the old west and made in the 60's.

So with that disclaimer that men will never understand women. I want to give my take on it. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. I think its a test, if the man has the "set" to come up to her no matter how beautiful she is, he has the "set" to be with her. She feels like he can defend her honor. He can fend for himself in the "real world."

I also think that women don't like to be told no. So if the man comes up to her she can shoot him down vs visa versa.

Like I said women are a strange brew per say but we still love ya
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 23 (view)
 
places to meet singles in real life
Posted: 7/29/2009 10:34:30 AM
I've meet a couple of women at My Starbucks. Its my crowd though. I like smart intelligent women and they tend to flock at the coffee shops. To sip coffee and update there blogs online. Its a small place (or at least where I live) so its not like super huge. I can make eye contact across the room which is less than 15 feet.

I've also had success in retail places. The eye contact is what gets me. I know when they like you in there eyes and reactions.

Best of luck I hope this helps
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Why do men assume all women are like thier ex?
Posted: 7/3/2009 2:44:32 PM
This is something that goes both ways. IDK how many women on just these forums compare all men to there ex's and visa versa. It's very unfortunate that we must compare a entire gender based on a few bad apples(or even good apples) going both ways.

In a way your doing the same saying all men assume all women are like their ex's. You didn't put that in your title but your post assumes that. Even tough you put "two men on this site" you pretty much assume they all do. So your doing the same thing. Sorry to break that to you.

Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 147 (view)
 
Is it racism when....
Posted: 7/1/2009 7:46:19 PM
I personally wouldn't care what race, color, or creed the woman is. I am more attracted to Latino women though something about them gets me going....if you know what I mean. I don't see what all the fuss over Asian women is, my best friend just doesn't understand why I don't find them super sexy like he does. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't date one or even marry one if love found me.

We've all got preferences its sad when someone pits you down for a preference that they have as well just to be politically correct though. That my friends is a double standard.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
which would you prefer?
Posted: 6/25/2009 7:11:05 PM
I was actually talking to a friend about this.....Weird... But anyways like I was telling my friend my fear about being single so long is that I will finally find someone that I "think" is right for me but its totally wrong and it ends up being a bad relationship. Then two things will happen I will take the bad and stay with her to be "with someone" or "better than no one" or I will be resentful and not get in a relationship again for a while because I don't want to be "hurt" again.

This is why I'm so picky when it comes to my choices because I just don't want to get hurt. Is that so bad? Isn't that what women do as well? If they can then why can't I?

I also have only had one steady ltr. She ended up cheating on me and it took me a while to "trust" women again. Esp growing up to my mom cheating on my dad and my sister constantly cheating on her husband.

Oh well best of luck to everyone

 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 288 (view)
 
Hottest Movie Scenes
Posted: 6/25/2009 6:51:54 PM

Oh I'm there 100% with you on that one, I believe it was Highlander 2 though and I have yet to see that whole movie, but have probably seen that scene about 150 times. Her body was a 10, about an hour and 15 minutes into the movie.........I feel like Mr Skin. lol


I hate to tell ya, but it is Highlander 3. Highlander 2 was set in the future.....Sean Connery actually comes back. Christopher Lambert makes a fake "shell" for earth. Its a little weird part of the series but not that good I've got it only because I'm a little OCD when it comes to having a "whole set" of a series of movies. I'm Scots-Irish so I really like the Scotland scenes of "me homeland" which is why I love Braveheart as well(other than the obvious fight scenes as well hehe).

But I agree on her smoking I think it had to do with her accent as well, something about it just gets to me. I remember sneaking to watch that movie at a friends house. Actually the 1st time I watched it with him his parents walked in on the earlier part of the movie and didn't mind the "blood and guts" but they heard the sex scene and went off the deep end. Funny now though thinking back. But another argument that could be made on how come someone slicing someone in half (which is how one character dies) is "OK" but a steamy sex scene isn't not only in "parents eyes" but the government as well. But this is not the place for that debate. Carry on.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 279 (view)
 
Hottest Movie Scenes
Posted: 6/24/2009 8:17:35 AM
The first steamy hot sex scene I watched was Road House.....Patrick and that hot chick in the barn....then the strip tease by that hot blond chick. I was a teen and that did for me....lol. So always a special place in my heart for it. lol

But my nerdness is showing and the sex scene in Highlander 3 (the one with Mario Van Pebbles). With Christopher Lambert and that hot red head with the smoking body.

Others that I like that most have not mentioned

Braveheart
Shoot Em Up.
XXX (Vin)
Risky Business
Revenge of the Nerds (in the "fun house")
History of Violence
300

There are may others but its time for lunch.
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 79 (view)
 
horror movies = red flag?
Posted: 6/23/2009 10:16:55 AM

See that doesn't bother me. If a guy is really into a type of movie, then he is, it's not a red flag for me. I will go to all types of movies, but admittedly the chick flicks I would rather rent. I like to see effects and interesting sets etc., (Edward Scissorhands) when I go to the theatre, so it's nice to meet someone who will watch everything, but does have a favorite


I'm the same I own about 100 + DVD's and they are all from different genre's. Comedy, action, some horror, drama, sci-fi and westerns. I agree there are some movies that I'd rather watch in the theaters like the Star Wars movies with all the sound and visual effects. A big theater screen with awesome surround sound just adds to the excitement of these films. I went to see the re-release of the originals just before the new ones came out and it was amazing. But other movies unless I really want to see it or go on a date, I rent and/or buy.

I love movies I'd love to be a movie critic that would be a awesome job for me. I have a vast like of all movies but have my all time fav's in each genre. I find people who only like one type of movie or even music narrow minded. I love to be open-minded, (btw this goes for those topics I personally never talk about politics and religion as well). I love entertainment......Best of luck to everyone in all you do
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 68 (view)
 
horror movies = red flag?
Posted: 6/22/2009 7:54:15 AM
I say we like what we like and visa versa. I don't mind some scary movies. The ones with a plot. I don't like the bad ones that's just blood and guts and stupid. I hate the Saw movies they are so dumb watching some dude torture people just to make them to cherish life more. Thats what they boil down to. I didn't like it.

Now I love action and most fantasy and sci-fi movies. But the same goes they have to have a good story line and plot. If it gets too complicated I don't like it. Oh I forgot thats a red flag to most women that we are geeks and nerds for liking these movies woops. It's all good I could care less.

I don't mind the sappy love stories if I'm with someone I just hate them now because it makes me want what I don't have right now a g/f. Romantic comedies are all good as well. I want to see the new one with Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bullock. It looks good. Sorry not trying to plug a movie lol.

I don't see a taste in movies a red flag people like what they like. Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 175 (view)
 
Decent guys: are they all either taken or gay?
Posted: 6/14/2009 7:11:54 PM
I've not read all the replies. So I'm going off on a limb here and saying I think the same about the women in my area. "Are all the good ones taken?" Not so much lez but taken. It seems like every woman that I think about asking out or want to ask out is taken. Wither a ring or at least a b/f. If I choose to have them as friends its the married ones. Not because I'm hoping they'll go with me even if there married. But they are sure to have at least one or two g/f's that are single. You never know.

But I feel like I'm a nice catch hence my title. I'm a decent guy I'm saying nice as in a good catch. Not nice as defined so many times on here as being a doormat.

But we've got to weed out all the a-hole's and b1tches to get to what we want. Best of luck to everyone
 nice_catch77
Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Over 30 and still hitting the clubs?
Posted: 6/10/2009 8:35:14 AM
I'm sure if the OP was describing his brother in-law going out multiple times a week. This thread would already have 5 pages and no sign of slowing down. Of all the women calling CHEATER.......CHEATER.

But being a woman, she can go out and have a good time and no one cares. Well here's one guy caring, I'm calling cheater. She is either cheating with someone or cheating on him with her drinking and/or drug addiction.

When your in your early even mid 20's its different your mingling with friends and having fun. I'm not saying someone in there later ears cannot go out and dance and have fun. But when you have a growing family at home you've got responsibility. If you want to have baby sitters take care of the kids while you and your s/o have a "night out" every so often hell yeah do it. But if the man and/or woman in the relationship is going out every night "clubbin" then we have a problem.

Best of luck to everyone
 
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