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Thread: Women who live live with ex-lovers
jpubllc
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Women who live live with ex-lovers
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4/17/2009 10:38:34 PM
Is it wrong for for a woman to no mention she ise is living with an ex- lover who she got pregnant with?
I was intrested in this woman, and found out that that she was living with her ex, and spent the night with her previous ex.
Should a woman make that clear if she is on a dating site, or am I just old fashioned?
jpubllc
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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4/16/2009 3:34:22 PM
I found the answer. I woke up and spoke to god. He said the best sign to go for is an Aries who has the first name "Jeff" Let me know if you need my #
jpubllc
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Judaism/Christianity/Islam...a brotherly conflict
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4/16/2009 3:23:55 PM
It's so sad that peoplle can't deal with real life and have to find some religion to fall back on so they think they will have something after they die. I don't, and wont blame them. I just feel bad that they can't live for now, because that's all we have.
jpubllc
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Are there ANY women who don't CHEAT?
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4/16/2009 3:18:03 PM
I probably should have been more specific. Anyone around CT that doesn't lie or chweat? :)
jpubllc
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Morals without Religion?
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4/16/2009 3:07:43 PM
As for moralls without religion, well there have been plenty enough studies to show that religion is completely unnecisery to having a moral compas. Just look at the top ten list of athiest countries.
"1. Sweden (up to 85% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)
2. Vietnam
3. Denmark
4. Norway
5. Japan
6. Czech Republic
7. Finland
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Estonia (up to 49% non-believer, atheist, agnostic)
I need to get a ticket for a vacation in sweden. My second choice would be Japan. I can't deal with people who believe in invisible people in the sky.
jpubllc
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boobs
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4/16/2009 3:02:08 PM
Well just give me a holler. I don't like big boobs. zThe smaller the better. It's a thing called "gravity" lol
jpubllc
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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2/25/2009 12:04:59 AM
Sweet J, you said:
"I have had relationships with three Aries men and coincidentally, those have been the top three relationships I have had....".
Congrats, you hit the nail on the head! The magic word there is "coincidentally", since it IS just coincidence.
And as far as: "^^Being from the same element means you understand each other; you're made of the same stuff, you 'click'."
You don't seem to understand what an element is. Fire is NOT an element. An element can not be broken down to a simpler form. Fire is made from more than one element, as is water, etc.
jpubllc
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Judaism/Christianity/Islam...a brotherly conflict
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1/30/2009 1:24:25 AM
To the OP, Yes, we are all basically the same....until you put religion in the mix.
People who would otherwise be friends, are killing each other, because they believe in different gods. It's the 21'st centurey. Isn't it time to grow up and realize that the universe is made up from matter and not fom som invisible guy in the sky. It's time to grow up!
jpubllc
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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1/29/2009 5:44:23 AM
petal,
It's too bad that if you met someone loving and generous who wanted to be with you for the rest of your life, but was born in the wrong month so you would avoid him. It's just sad.
jpubllc
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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1/29/2009 5:40:48 AM
mysticaries said:
"Being from the same element means you understand each other; you're made of the same stuff, you 'click'"
Okay, I really hate to be the one to break the news to you, but there is this thing called "DNA". It kida shows that we are all made up of the same "elements". DNA varies from person to person, but it has nothing to do with the supernatural or the planets and stars. You can take 1000 Aries, and thier "elements" will all be different. Astrology was created when people thought the Earth was flat. We are in the 21'st century. It's time for people to stop believing in fairy tales.
jpubllc
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Women Not Ready For Dating
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1/28/2009 4:31:25 PM
Fun tall,
I suppose I should have a better sense of women, but I've never lied or cheated, so it's hard for me to "weed out" the women that are. I just naturally assume that everyone is honest and faithful until I find out otherwise.
I suppose I should "smarten up" a little, but that's easier said than done. I don't wan't to become someone who doesn't trust anybody. Some people choose to have the other "earn" their trust, and that's fine (and maybe a good idea). I have always, and still do, just trusted women unless they did something to lose that trust.
I suppose it's a 50/50 thing. It just depends on how the man or woman decides to approach the relationship.
***As a side note, she IM'ed and called me to tell me her Lab had a litter of 11 puppies. Some are Chocolate Labs and some Black Labs. They are not pure Labs but mostly Lab. She doesn't wan't to bring them to the pound, and she can't keep 11 dogs, so if anyone is interested, I can forward pics of the puppies. They are free to a good home. She lives in the Easten CT (Willimantic) area if anyone wants to look at them in person. I would take one of the dogs, but the 2 cats here aren't very receptive to new animals and would probably torment the poor little puppy every day. ***
jpubllc
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You've just gotta be the best friend you can be
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1/28/2009 2:27:55 PM
Luke said:
"All you've gotta do is be a good friend to her... .She may open her eyes one day."
I agree with you. I still talk to her when she IM's. I'm not going to be mean to someone because they choose to do what they want. As far as her opening her eyes one day, maybe she will and I wish her well with her next boyfriend, but I just could never have a relationship with her. Once that trust is broken, I can't be in a serious relationship with that person.
I'm not angry at her, nor do I consider every woman a cheater or a liar. It just seems that women , at least the ones I've met lately, don't or can't seem to be honest, even though I make it clear that I have no problem with honesty, even if it hurts. Anything can be worked out if you're honest about it.
I can be friends with someone who feels the relationship isn't working and want's to just be friends, but it's another thing when they tell you how much they love you and go behind your back. I'm 100% honest with women (except for things like secret surprise birthday parties, etc.). Maybe I'm expecting too much when I ask for the same in return.
I don't want to seem mean, I just want the person I'm seeing to give the honesty I give them.
jpubllc
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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1/28/2009 2:21:31 PM
Is a Pisces chart similar to a Pie chart? Hmmm....Pie. Getting hungry and forgot what my point was.
I'll just say that if you need a chart on when a person was concieved or born to determine if you want to be with them, you really need to change your criteria for meeting the right person.
I admit this is a crazy idea, but how about picking someone to spend your life with based on their character, personality, kindness, and love, instead where the planets or stars were when they happened to be born? I know it sounds silly, but why not give it a shot? Plus, you have a few hundred million extra people to choose from.
p.s.- If you insist on basing the person you want by their "sign", make sure they weren't born premature. That would screw everything up igf they were supposed to be born in December, but was born in November. Isn't superstition wonderful...lol
jpubllc
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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1/27/2009 11:32:48 PM
You have to re-look at astrology. It was based on Pluto being a plant. Pluto has now been downgraded and is no longer a planet. You have to re-write the whole astrology thing. (Sorry...I didn't do it).
So now you have to jump up your asrological sign 1 behind. An Aries is no longer an Aries. It get's ugly from this point on, so I won't get into the speficics and confuse the folks who thought they knew how the stars determimined their future. Of course we all know that out of the BILLIONS of people on earth, there are only 12 ways there life will turn out. It's Just common sense.
So as a former Aries (until Pluto was no longer a planet), I would go with someone who's sign is 1 step behind what you were loking for.
And BTW, I still have those magical, mystery rocks for sale. They will help you're love life, make men "larger", increase breast size, and mave you win the Lottery every week. Only $9.95 (Plus S&H). I fully guarantee this product unless it doesn't work for you. Money back if you are not satisfied, although I will declare bankruptcy if I have to give any money back. Trust me, I'm a psychic.
jpubllc
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Women Not Ready For Dating
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1/27/2009 11:12:17 PM
I first posted this in April 2007. I met someone a wshrt while back I thought was great. Turned out she was nice, but she forgot to mention she was living with her boyfriend. I would have not found out but for the fact that her son just came out last week and said "I wish Bob would move out". He then asked his mother if he stay over my house that night. I didn't think it was a good idea. I am no longer with her, but I feel bad that the kids don't like the guy. I don't know why, and although I have my suspicions, I don't go around accusing people without any proof.
Although my main concern is the safety of the children, I still have to stick with my original post. Are there any women who are honest and don't cheat? I don't do either one.
jpubllc
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WHY other religion?
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11/9/2008 8:04:34 AM
Actually atheism is not a belief. It's quite the opposite. Although there are different degrees of atheism, atheism simply means you DON'T have a belief in the supernatural. I'm not sure why people consider not believing in something is a belief, but they continue to do so.
If I don't believe in Santa Clause, does that make me a believer in something? The same applies to an invisible friend in the sky. If I choose not to think I have an invisible friend in the sky who watches everthing I do 24/7, that doesn't make me a believer.
jpubllc
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Dating a Religious Zealot is a challenge
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9/17/2008 11:57:03 AM
Well rock, you are correct that I will get over it. Trust me, being an atheist, you learn to get over being ridiculed by religious folk quickly. That's not to say that all releios people mock or insult atheists. Most of them dont, at least not to their face.
Everone that knows me well know what I believe or dis-believe and although they are religious, they respsect my views and I respect theirs.
As far as your question:
"Ok, give me an example of how you're ridiculed on a daily basis. And no, other people minding their own business and praying within earshot is not ridiculing you."
You are indeed misinformed if you consider an atheist hearing someone pray, ridicule. Perhaps you had a bad experience with an atheist if you think they are like that. If that's the case, I apologize on behalf of the atheist who got offended by hearing you or someone you know, pray. You absolutely have that right and should never be told otherwise by anyone, or have your prayer offend someone unless you are beating them over the head with a Bible and screaming a prayer in their face. But you don't strike me as someone who would do that. I've never actually seen that myself except on TV....lol.
I could give you enough examples from my personal experiences regarding ridicule to keep you reading for a month, but you asked for ONE, so I'll give you one that happened yesterday. I was sent an email with a picture of a badly burned body and a picture of what appeared to be a devil, and the person wrote to tell me that that is what I'll be looking like when I spend the rest of eternity in Hell, and that I must be a sick person for not believeing in God and that I'm not worth the trouble to to care about (athough I seemed to be worth the trouble for them to spend considerable time to send that mail).
And no, that's not an isolated thing and doesn't just happen to me. I've gotten a lot of support from people on this site who told me they went through the same thing but thought felt alone because they chose to believe in critical thinking and logic. I assured the person who said they felt alone in that respect that she was by no means alone.
Atheists are a vast minority. Sometimes we have to speak with a louder voice to not get drowned out by the 90% or so of those who are believers.
More importantly, you seem to have a very twisted view of science in general. I don't know who ever told you that ANYONE, let alone atheists, ever said that science explains everything. Science actually explains very little in the grand scheme of things and wuite often scientific theories are proven wrong and must be changed. But that's not a bad thing. Quite the opposite. It shows that scientists are constantly working to see if the theories that have so far been proven are as accurate as our last best research.
So science isn't perfect, and everything can't be explained by science, but its vastly more accurate than reading a 2.000 year old book and saying "this is the way it is because that book says so." Good luck to you.
p.s. - to right stuff who wrote:
"....A lack of any spirituality, fairly or not, signifys to me a lack of morals and a pervasive "anything goes" attitude. Those bereft of any sense of spirituality are not persons I'd particularly care to share time with, let alone my life."
Quite frankly, I find people who believe that a person can't have morals without faith or God to be very scary. That shows that a person does not have a sense of morals that they live by because they know right from wrong in their mind, but because they have a fear of retribution by their god now or in the afterlife.
I don't go around stealing or killing people because the Bible says it's wrong, I don't do those things because I, myself, know they are wrong. I don't do them because I am a decent person, not because I fear that I will be struck down or spend eternity in Hell.
If someone believes that they can't have morals without a belief in God or aome kind of "faith" (if they choose to use that word instead), than I WANT that person to keep going to church every week.....maybe a few times a week. If the only thing stopping them from killing people is God, I don't want that person to EVER stop believeing, because then we'll have a serial killer to deal with. If someone needs a god to have morals and behave themselves in society, than by all means, keep on believeing, but don't assume that there aren't people who know right from wrong, and have very high morals because they are truly good people and not because they live in fear of the invisible man in the sky.
jpubllc
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Dating a Religious Zealot is a challenge
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9/17/2008 2:39:09 AM
anokagrassland wrote:
"How many of you agnostics or atheists have tried praying? Really praying. Do so for a month and you might be surprised at how you feel about God at the end. It won't cost you anything."
I'm not sure if you were being serious, or just trying to act ignorant to make the thread intersting, but on the chance that you are serious.....
You want someone who doesn't believe in fairy tales to waste a month of their life "trying it" because they might like it. Okay, but I'm sure that you are a fair person, so I'm sure you would have no problem doing the same. How about spending 1 month thinking critically and stop praying to whatever god or gods you worship. After all, as you say, it won't cost you anything and you might just find that common sense will take over the paert of your mind that is now filled with a fanstasy.
I'm sure as a good Christian, you wouldn't ask others to do something that you wouldn't do yourself. Would you?
jpubllc
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Dating a Religious Zealot is a challenge
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9/16/2008 12:16:01 AM
Sassy...I commented on your fisrt critisism of me, but I didn't read the rest of your post at that time because of a lack of time. So I wanted to comment on a few things.
Such as your statement:
"Personally I don't believe that the bible is the infallible word..."
I sometimes spell bible, or Bible, in random ways as far as the caps on the "B". Since I'm not religious, I don't really care whether I use a capital "B" or a lower case "b", except that it's proper to use a capital B since it's a proper title of a book, whether it's fiction or not. You being a religious person, I would think that even though many people don't pay atention to details like that, you would refer to the book that you consider the word of god important enough that you would at least, if for no other reason than out of respect for your lord and savior, do a spell check.
Then you say:
"Which is your interpretation of someone else's conception of God, it has no resemblance to what I believe therefore I do not see the humor."
First of all, I think most would agree that the overly religious aren't best known for their sense of humor, so I won't even go there. But what I find consistent with most religious zealots is clear in your statement. Since it has no resemblance to what YOU believe, you find no humor. I see comedy on TV and watch comedians at clubs, and many of the things they say are things I completely disagree with, but I still find it funny and or amusing. I didn't say what I did to amuse you or make you laugh, but your statement that since it has no resemblance to what you believe and therefore you find no humor in it, hust shows that you are a typical tight ass religious zealot who considers anything that doesn't conform to their way of thinking, just wrong. ("You insulted my invisible friend...that's NOT funny!"). Lighten up and get a life. If you're wong about the afterlife, this is the only one you got, so enjoy it!
And then we have: "To mock another's belief imo only highlights your own uncertainty ;)"
I mock silly things all the time. When I mock things about Santa or the Easter Bunny, I don't do that because I am uncertain if they exist. I do that because I consider them silly.
Now the great part! You say:
"Not once did I say I can prove God exists, that would be ludicrous."
Yeah. You don't believe in Santa or the Easter Bunny because they were proven to not exist, but you freely admit that you can't prove the existance of God because it would be just as ludicrous as proving any other invisible figure that were written about in books. You can't have your cake and eat it too. I can tell you I own 3 mansion and 5 cruise ships that you never actually see, but according to your thinking, you may believe that I only have 1 mansion and 2 cruise ships that you can't see. (BTW, I'm selling some nice swampland in Florida if you'd like to make an offer....)
And finally, you say:
"It is infinitely interesting to me how many atheists reject the God of the bible due to the heinous things written in it.. throwing the baby out with the bathwater and almost in some strange fashion, lending credence to the view.. but hey.. this is Jmo"
I agree it is very interesting, but not that atheists reject the "heinous" things written in the bible, but that people like you can read things like that in the Bible, and even though you are told to believe in the word of the Bible, those "heinous" things don't seem to bother you. You apparently are one of the "pick and choose" people who take the things they relate to or like in the bible, and reject the things they don't for whatever reason helps them sleep at night.
You can be a hypocrite when it comes to your religion, but don't put down others for pointing out why you aren't what a true believer is.
You have no clue how many religious texts I've read in my lifetime, and in 3 different languages. So if you want to debate me, at least come to the party with a gift.
jpubllc
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9/15/2008 8:18:55 PM
Oh rock....how sad.
You said:
"Which makes me ask why this pressing need to question other people's beliefs, when they're not questioning yours (you atheists, I mean).
First, as atheists, we don't have beliefs to question, but more importantly, how can you dare say we don't get questioned? We get ridiculed on a daily basis for not believing in the invisible man in the sky. You seem to think it's okay for a Christian to bash an atheist, but if the tables are turned, we are evil human beings. How petty and arrogant of you. And yes, I do on occasion mock religious people, but I do so NOT because I think it's amusing, but because after being mocked daily by the self-righteous religious folks, sometimes you can't just sit back and let them piss all over you. You need to do what they do. They have no problem telling me I'll be tortured in hell for all eternity, why should I walk on eggshells to not offend them? The correct answer is that there IS no reason!
You go on to say:
"I mean, if others want to believe that God is, well, God, and they're happy that way: Why the need to crash uninvited in their conversations?
Why? Because they are not only pushing their views on me, but they are using my hard earned money in the form of tax dollars, to pursue that belief they have. As I have always said, everyone should have the right to believe as they wish, but DON'T make ME pay for that out of my pocket!
I love the argument:
"they think it's more probable that in the afterlife, God will accept an "I was wrong" instead of an "I was bad".
First of all, we don't believe in an afterlife. BUT, assuming there IS an afterlife, let me ask not just you, but anyone who cares to answer. Do you think that if I don't believe in god and I go in front of him after I die, and he's real, that he would appreciate the fact that I was honest and said that I had no faith becuase you gave me no reason, or if I pretended to have faith, even though I didn't. After all, you think if there is a god, you can slip one over on him and if you act like you believe but you really dont, that he'll be fooled? If you think that, and there IS a god, you can plan on Hell! If there is a god, I would like to think he would prefer that I be honest with myself, and not try to "play him" like a Ted Haggard or someone equally as bad.
And of course, the most hypocritical argument from many from Christians and others:
Why the need to "convert" people to atheism? Why the need to prove that this God that does not exist is "evil", "arrogant", etc.?
I don't know where you hang out, but I've NEVER had someone try to "convert" me to atheism. Atheism, in it's own definition, is a NON-BELIEF. I have had plenty of people try to convert me to their own personal religion, but atheism isn't a religion, and you can't convert someone to something they don't believe exists. I can knock on your door and tell you about the virtues of Allah, Jehova, a sacred cow, etc..., and try to change you, but what would be the point of knocking on your door to try and tell you that the tooth fairy is not real? I would have nothing to gain from that. With religion, you ask for money for your church. What am I gonna do? Ask you for money to NOT believe something? That is a ridiculous argument.
Religious folks seem to think they will have a place in heaven if they convert others. What does someone who has no belief in any god or religion benefit from convincing you of that? Nothing.
I've said it many times, and I'll say it again. My one and only problem is that although people should have the right to believe whatever they want, I don't want that pushed on me or charged to my bank account.
It is really as simple as that.
jpubllc
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9/15/2008 7:21:00 PM
rockondon...I loved your post!
In part, you said:
"If it [atheism] was a religion, then that same reasoning would make not believing in santa a religion, not believing in leprechauns a religion, not believing that humans have wings is a religion, and not believing that milk jugs created the universe is a religion. Do you consider yourself a member of a billion different religions - where every time you do not accept an unsubstantiated claim automatically makes you a member? If atheism qualifies as religion, then 'religion' is a meaningless term."
How true. But more importantly, it reminded me that I didn't give my weekly contribution to the church of "The Universe wasn't created by a Sony Playstation" I'll get that check out in the mail today! Thanks for reminding me.
And for the record, I agree that there are atheist zealots. I am not one of them though. I've believed in go and religion for most of my life, but changed that opinion after doing some actual research, rather than just believeing there was a go because someone told me to believe it. So unlike a zealot, my views change based on by last best reasonable information.
I do have my opinions on things, but this is just one of may things I talk about, and I speak FAR more on other topics that I do about religion, or lack thereof. I actually did know an atheist zealot years ago. He was so annoying. He could talk of nothing but the topic of how stupid the concept of god was. I had to start avoiding him. It's one thing to be opinionated on a variety of subjects, but completely different to think of nothing but that particular subject.
Personally, I would prefer to talk about women and day of the week. I "may" be a zealot when it comes to women, and I'm not afraid to admit it!
And to Kra961 who wrote:
"Though on a side note it is amusing watching a believer and a non-believer trash each other over something that simply cannot be proven in either case since neither understand its a belief which is just like an opinion everyone has one and nobody has the only correct one."
There actually is a little difference. When a believer debates an atheist, one of them is basing all of their information on a single book, while the other is basing his argument on facts gathered by many years of intense research and study done by those who decided to think critically rather that just follow the herd because someone thousands of years ago said it was so. So I'm glad you find it amusing, but a debate from someone who claims Santa is real vs. someone who believes Santa is a myth would be equally amusing. That doesn't make both sides the same as far as how valid their opinions and/or arguments are.
Ahhh, and finally to sassyaquarius, you say: " I KNOW that santa and the easter bunny don't exist.. it was proven to me at the age of about 7. We have no proof regarding God, therefore all we have are beliefs."
You said it all right there! Thank you.
You know Santa and Mr. Bunny don't exist because it was proven to you. I'm not sure HOW it was proven to you, but I'm guessing the fact that nobody has ever seen Santa and Mr. Bunny might play a part. You learned at age 7 not to believe in silly things that you can't see, yet somehow out of the 3 e3qually silly things, you decided to still believe in one of the invisible myths that nobody has ever seen.
You say you have no proof that Santa an Mr. Bunny don't exist and that's why you don't believe. So I MUST know....what proof do you have that God exists? And don't quote a book, since there are many books about Santa and Mr. Bunny, or a "faith", since I know many who have faith that Santa is real. I mean proof. The same proof that you use to say there is no Santa or Mr. Bunny. Nobody has ever been able to give that proof before, so I very much look forward to yours, so that I can once again be a believer.
jpubllc
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Hey wolphman. I just got back from a business trip and catching up on email and forum threads. I just saw your post that said: "Reading this thread it's easy to see how religious wars get started."
I don't think this thread really applies to the type of religious disagreements that started almost every war in history. It's turned more into a belief vs. non-belief type argument in general. Perhaps I'm wrong (and I never piss and moan about someone who corrects me when I'm wrong - I look at it as learning), but I don't recall any war ever being started because one side believed in his/her specific god vs. someone who didn't believe in ANY god. Wars usually get started because they want to have their god have a "cage match" with the other god to see which god "wins". (Of course nobody ever wins....everybody loses, especially the innocent ones caught in the middle that don't believe in either of the gods they are fighting over, or don't care which god might be better.)
Some wars are needed to free people who are taken over by agressive countries, but it's sad when 2 countries kill each other's people off just because they have opposing views on their god, or even worse, their interpretation of what their SAME god means in the same "Good Book". That book doesn't sound so "good" to me.
What a sad excuse to kill and torture innocent people.
Have a good one and take care.
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"When it comes to religion, I really don't think there's a right or wrong religion. Each has something good to offer."
Normally I would agree with that, and I have agreed with philosophy in the past, but when I saw the laws being passed that not only forces religion onto me, but makes me pay for it through my tax dollars, I realized that it was time to bring religion under control.
Should religion be banned? Of course not! I firmly believe that people have the right to worship or not worship as they see fit. Just do it on your own time. I don't want someone else's superstitions pushed down my throat and the money to do it yanked from my pocket. The same goes for public schools. Kids can pray anytime they like, but it shoudn't be forced on them and made a requirement that we pay for that "prayer time", or "moment of silence" (which is the same as calling creationism "intelligent design" to sneak it through the school system) through our taxes.. Forget that if it weren't for the religious fanatics who oppose stem cell research, we may be closer to a cure for several diseases.
Keep your invisible friends, give them your real money, but keep those who choose NOT to believe out of it and don't hold back real scientific progress in the name of the sky-daddy.
People think I'm anti-religion. I'm not. I'm anti-being forced into beliefs I don't share.
Finally, people argue that religious orginazations do a lot of good things to help people. This is true. There are several that are wll known and provide help during troubled times. But I am willing to bet nobody here, or anywhere else, can name even ONE thing that a religious orginization does that a non-religious orginization can and does do on a daily basis. You don't need a faith in God to help people, you just need to be a decent human being. I help many people out in a variety of ways, but not so I can get into heavenor avoid hell, but because I believe in the importance of life and that people should do all they can to help others. I don't need an invisible friend to carve the way to do that onto stone tablets. Those things are already born into the minds of decent people.
Oh, and Miss Empress...you said:
Um wow...okay religious zealots are bad but people who are anti-religious zealots are equally as bad. i.e. JPubLLC.
Everyone is free to believe what they want, like what they want, prefer what they prefer but disrespecting others is not cool."
I have no problem if you consider me bad, and I agree, and always have, that people have the right to believe as they choose. The problem with your comment that I have is the last sentence about disrespecting others not being cool. So when Christians keep threating others with eternal torture in hell because they don't share the same beliefs, you think that THAT IS respect, and that it's "cool"?
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sassyaquarius says "I hate to break it to ya, but you DO in fact have a belief on the subject of God. See, with matters that cannot be proven, all we have are beliefs"
I guess you can use semantics, but I don't see the point. Using your logic however, that would mean we all have a belief in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, or even something less likely, such as having a democratic candidate who has a chance to be elected. (And yes, I've been hoping for one.)
"it doesn't matter whether the belief contains a deity or not.. it is still a BELIEF."
Thanks! I read that sentence 3 times to understand what you were trying to say, and now my I.Q. has dropped 25 points, and I'm pretty sure a blood vessel in my brain just ruptured.
"And God has not been proven or disproven thus far, so we are all free to believe as we wish."
This is my favorite! God hasn't been disproven? You're right, but what's your point?
In case you aren't aware, it is impossible to prove a negative, so it's not up to anyone to DISPROVE that God exists, it's up to someone to prove he DOES exist. There is not even any legitimate point in debating interpretations of "God's word" when there is not even any proof that a god exists. That is like debating whether Xarnon, the ruler of the Glorbock galaxy 5 million light years away wears a red T-shirt with white ruffles or a pink shirt with blue ruffles. (although the latter would look pretty tacky).
"So the atheist has no belief in atheism? Yeah, okay"
Dammit....there goes another blood vessel in my brain!
"Isn't it funny how one person's truth is seen as nonsense to another.. ?
Yes, actually it is funny when the person's "truth" involves an invisible flying man in the sky.
"When looked at this way it kinda makes one realize that there is nothing at all to be condescending about.. unless of course you are prepared for the same in return?"
Go for it. I don't really see how a religious person can be condescending to someone who believes that life is based on the best scientific theories and proven principles reached thus far by some of the greatest minds in history, such as gravity and relativity, as opposed to superstition regarding an invisible sky-man who waved his arms and made it all happen. But what angers me the most is that they want to teach that nonsense to children. Someday gravity may be proven wrong and when an apple falls, it may fly up instead of falling to the ground, but that doesn't mean we should teach that to our kids in school!
However if you feel you are able to prove the invisible man thing, thus making atheists sound silly, please do tell. If you are privvy to some information that proves his existense (other than one of thousands of different versions of fairy tale books), I will admit I was wrong.
I will end with this. If there IS a God, and I go up to Heaven to have him decide my fate, I WILL NOT apologize to him. I will look him in the eyes and ask him a very simple and honest question. :
"Now that I know you're real, why in the hell did you try so hard to keep yourself secret and not once ever take a minute out of your busy day to pop in and tell people you were real? You can give people "free will" but still give them a little proof that you exist. What was going through your mind when you killed millions of innocent people in wars and disasters, but yet not take a minute to say "hi"?"
I wouldn't want to take him up on his offer of eternal life in heavan either. If people have to spend so much time stroking his ego by praying to him all the time, and fighting to not even THINK of any impure thoughts, etc, just to avoid staying on his good side and not suffer his evil, torturous punishments, I would NOT want to spend eternity living like that. To me, THAT would be hell!
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9/14/2008 9:08:49 PM
Hi rockondon.
Your statement in respose to "the point of being an atheist is a "non-belief" in religion." was:
"Tell that to the hundreds of millions of buddhist atheists out there that they have non-belief in their religion. Atheists are often religious - there are even christian atheists.
You make a good point. There are variations of everything religious or non-religious. There are atheists that I am ashamed even call themselves that. When I use the term "atheist" though, I simply mean it to describe a person who has a non-theist view of life and doesn't believe in a God or God's. If I were to address every type of person with every type of belief, it would take a few thousand pages to post all the variations, and I would still miss a few thousand variations of theist and non-theist beliefs.
Sorry for the confusion.
p.s. - I'm still sticking to my offer to switch to any religion if she comes over for those Christ crackers with some "Wise-Men" chesse and maybe a few glasses of Chateau Jesus (1 A.D - a very good year), to lighten the mood.
That plane is waiting for you sweets. I'm a pretty good pilot, and I think you know who my co-pilot is!)
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9/14/2008 3:37:51 PM
"and you have the nerve to speak of me belittling atheist beliefs."
I'm still trying to make sense of your post, but I'm getting a headache, so I'll give up on that for now. And to anwer your question, YES, I do know I'm copndescending with people who go on about nonsense. I never claimed to have a high tolerance for grown men and women who want to push their beliefs on me, whether it be God, Santa, Tooth Fairy, etc...
And just so you get it right in the future, the term "atheist belief" makes no sense. The point of being an atheist is that we DON'T have that belief. If you want to get it right, at least call it an atheist disbelief.
Well I have to go now and debate someone on what T^de%^r from the planet Xarbanon is planning for his galaxy's future.
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9/13/2008 6:55:07 PM
Oh, come on. Let's all be nice. You can come over, we can drink the blood of Christ, ummmm.....I mean have wine, and we can eat the body of Christ, the blessed wafers (being an ordained minister, I can even bless them myself - nothing says yummy like Christ on a Ritz!). I can't be sure, but I think I have a thigh and mabe some wings or breast (mmmm....breast), and we can put some cheese on them if you like, and just have a good time and a great debate about religion.
I'll pop in "The Passion of the Christ", and after a few glasses of His blood, and perhaps we can do a re-make of the "Passion". I'm very open to a good clean naked (as God created us) discussion with a woman like you. As a matter of fact, if you come over and, ummmm......talk, I'll switch to any religion you are into and I'll feed that money basket every week, or however many times your particular religion wants that chunck of your paycheck. It works for me!
***YES, the above post was insulting and immature, but when discussing religion, which consists of invisible people and/or creatures, who live somewhere in the sky and kill people when they get bored, it's very hard to have a serious discussion on the matter. I don't make that stuff up about drinking the blood of Jesus, or eating his body in the form of crackers. Thats all part of the nonsense of religion. If you are offended by that, talk to the people who push that ridiculous nonsense and have you give them your hard earned money for that right to do things like drink his blood and eat his body crackers. I didn't make that crap up. Some idiots a few thousand years ago who thought the world was flat did! HAH!...and that virgin birth my ass. They were 3 wise men all right. You gotta be pretty wise to be 3 old guys hanging around with a hot young girl who gets knocked up and convince everyone that she was still a virgin. That's not just wise, that's damn genius! ***
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9/13/2008 6:08:09 PM
tuckerjo said: "You may wish to spend your life not sharing all of your most deeply held beliefs with someone , but I do not."
Don't forget about those of us who wish to share everything we have with people who are NOT invisible, and who don't get off on mass murder (via earthquakes, floods, starvation, etc...).
"Dating a zealot of any kind is a challenge not just the religious ones. I have no desire to date an atheist as most of them are zealots themselves."
Really? You don't strike me as the type of person who gets to know a lot of atheists, so it seems odd that you seem to know so much about them. I do have one thing to say to you though. You act as though an atheist is like a religious person. In case you weren't aware, the point of being an atheist is a "non-belief" in religion. So I guess that you could say that an atheist is just like a religious person, except for the fact that they are exact opposites. Other than that.....
"They would keep at you constantly trying to bring you over to their way of thinking."
Huh? We don't have a "belief" in anything spiritual, so there is nothing to convert you over to. I've never gotten a knock on my door and tried to get sucked into "nothing" by a group of people wearing suits and ties and carrying a non-Bible.
"Yeah I can hear the "on not me" replies already even from those who can't see how much anger , bitterness and resentement they have inside. Leave others to their beliefs and stop trying to change them. I have no desire to change peoples beliefs. I live my life my way, you live your life yours , we don't push our beliefs on each other and leave each other be. Life is best lived this way."
What planet are you living on? Religious people don't push their beliefs on other people? Nevermind that people who believe in invisible friends get to own mansions and exotic cars, yet not pay a penny in income tax, but they intefere in our lives by taking away our right to things such as stem cell research that could save millions from suffering and death, killing doctors who perform an abortion to save a womans life or because the woman was a victim of rape or incest. I could go on, but I won't. You are narrow minded and as most religious zealots, you prefer to live by a book that has been translated and interpreted so many times it probably has less than 1% of it's original meaning left intact, rather than to open up some REAL books and think for yourself, and come to your OWN conclusions.
But that would be just too crazy. That would be right up there with some invisible man flying up there in the sky. Oh wait....nevermind.
As hard as it may be for you to believe, some of us like to play with people who are really there and can talk back when you talk to them (delusional people who hear voices from "God" not included).
You have a right to have your invisible friend, but don't knock the people who decide on having friends they can see, feel, and hear...in REAL life. You can't say you respect an atheists position in one sentence and belittle him or her in the next. That just makes you the typical arrogant religious type person that gives those who believe in God but do so in a respectful way, a bad reputation. SHAME ON YOU! And be careful, god doesn't put up with any crap. I've seen people younger than you bite the dust with a heart attack. (Have you had any tingling sensations or shortness of breath recently?)
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9/13/2008 5:14:39 PM
Rock hunter, If I ran from every guy who tried to turn me into a fish........
They haven't been successful though. The closest one was when Chris Angel turned me into a white lion, but I'm doing much better now! As far as Hell goes, I've sat through a "Barney" marathon with a 4 year old, so Hell would be a walk in the park!
All in all though, I think my favorite part was the veiled threat about the heart attack. People like that love to threaten people who don't believe what they do with death and eternal torture in Hell. You gotta respect those religious folks with all that love in their heart.
As far as God, you can't get much more arrogant than him. You would think with all that power he has, he wouldn't feel that need to have people get on their knees to worship him. You would think he would be a little more secure than that. I'm nowhere close to being as powerful as god, and I don't need my ego stroked by making people go through rituals, or kill innocent babies and animals just to show that I can do whatever I want.
The guy needs to lighten up a little! (But I still want to fly tuckerjo down here to Connecticut for that debate. Yeah...for the debate. Room and board, entertainment expenses, and depending on how things go, possibly a Ferrari, included!)
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9/13/2008 1:18:23 AM
Thank you for your concern, but I am in excellent health.
I find it amusing that you think perhaps the fact that I don't believe in an invisible friend in the sky makes me somehow unrelaxed. It's just the opposite!!!
If I were to believe in a God, I would be constantly worried that any impure thoughts or actions would lead me to an eternal stay in hell. How does that serve to make someone relax? I know I'm a good person and I treat others as I would like to be treated, but I do so because that is the type of person I am, not because I live in constant fear of an invisible man who, at his whim, will strike me down if I somehow do not please him.
If I had to live in fear of someone who is evil enough to kill newborn babies for no reason, I probably would have been dead from stress many years ago.
But all the same, thank you for your concern, and I hope that you have no impure thoughts that may cause you to live in an eternal life of fiery hell, pain, and torture. That would really suck, and you may end up with a heart attack.
I'd like to live a religious life, like the wonderful Reverand Ted Haggard, but I'm not fond of massive drug use, or male prostitutes, so I guess I'll just keep being a good person and leave the invisible man in the sky to those that need a crutch to lean on rather than face life realistically. Call me crazy.....
*** By the way, there is ONE thing that almost makes me believe in a God. I just opened your profile and saw your pic. For a minute there, I almost thought that a woman can't look that beautiful without something out there....lol. (You really are very beautiful. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I didn't say that! As a matter of fact, I think it might be a good idea to rent a plane and fly you down here so we can discuss this further in person. And by the way, I have no impure thoughts - it's strictly just to talk. I'm not lying. Okay......so I'm lying my ass off!) ***
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"Wow seriously you don't see it. That tirade in your last post was evidence enough of your simmering anger that boiled right over."
What you may see as a tirade, many people may see as a person who is merely standing up to someone who is attempting to force their morals onto someone else. How would you react if I tried to force you to do as I do (which, if you follow the words of the Bible, would probably be a much better way to act in society)?
"I don't have to believe anything , however there are things that I "choose" to believe. I know there are people who don't believe as I do sweets! I don't have any problem with others beliefs. I can be friends with anyone , but build a life and get married to ,uhh no you need to have all your major beliefs in common or it's not going to work."
You don't have to believe anything??? Then you must be an atheist or have a "made up " religion. You DO realize that you either follow the "word of god" or you don't, correct? You can be one of those people who "pick and choose" what they believe to be the word of God, but that makes it a "bastardized" form of religion that is different for every person. If you are a true Christian, Catholic, Jew, Muslim, etc..., you either believe in the word as it is written, or you don't.
When you read the 10 Commandments, do you say to yourself "I like these 7 one's, so screw the other 3!"? Perhaps you do, but if you, as you claim suggest, pick what you like, why even call yourself a religious person? Join those of us in the real world who do what they feel is morally right and not pick and choose parts of a book that you think fits the way you want to live. (And as a side note, your reference to me as "sweets" is blatantly condescending. Did you get that from some church, or is that just another characteristic of someone who thinks of themselves as "a person of God"?)
If you follow the Bible, You MUST believe it all! After all, those who truly believe, believe that the word of God is ALL true, and follow His word....not just the parts that suit them as they see fit. There is no room for negotiation. If you look up the definition of the word "hypocrite", you will see yourself all too clearly. I don't say that to be mean, merely to be honest, unlike you seem to be to yourself.
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"Right there is why I could never date an atheist. They may be telling you that they respect your beliefs , but deep down,and it always comes out, they are all simmering in anger and will mock and snear at your beliefs."
Let me assure you I have nothing "simmering". You may have to convince yourself that somehow there are people who don't believe what you do because they merely want to "mock and snear" at your beliefs, but that is something you have to deal with on your own. If I wanted to mock you, I would talk about how you have no respect for those, including atheists, who have a different viewpoint than you do, but yet you excpect people to respect your beliefs.
It works boths ways. The Bible doesn't teach much on being kind, as most of it has violence, non-tolerance of others, and vengance, but as an atheist, we do what we feel is morally right as opposed to what the Bible seems to think is morally right, such as stoning unruly children to death, and killing women who are not properly obeying their spouses. I prefer to do what I think is kind and loving, rather than something from a book that teaches violences and death to someone who's sexual orientation may be different than anothers. Call me crazy!
Not that I have to make it public, but I was a religious person for over 30 years, and I studied the Bible and served my church for over 20 years. I was, and still legally am, an ordained minister for the past 8 years. That's more than some people who consider themselves "religious" have ever been close.
I've found it's people who "think" they know the Bible who actually know the least about it, and those who have actually studies it, are often the ones who realize how silly it really is. If you want to discuss it in an intelligent manner, email me. I don't wish to get into a public conversation with someone who only has a general sense of what the Bible stands for, yet has the nerve to tell me what my feelings are. That's not only arrogant, but it shows a lack of understanding and a lack of the very respect that you seem to think the Bible teaches.
I have no problem discussing it with you, but at least have a basic knowledge of religion, other than what you may hear television preachers holler out to get cash before you jump into a serious discussion.
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I just got several messages about "God", and how I am "evil", etc....
I am NOT going to answer each ridiculous comment indiviually, so let me make myself very clear.
This is America, and everyone has the right to believe in whatever they like without fear of retribution (except of course for the "witches" who were burned at the stake, or the slaves who were considered "PROPERTY" by the Bible, etc..."), but don't you DARE to take my tax dollars to fund your imaginary friend (or friends, depending on what you happen to believe).
If you feel good about having an invisible friend in the sky, then good for you. But DON'T make ME pay for it through my taxes, or some ridiculous laws passed by the government.
Keep your religion, let your religion make you happy, teach it to your family, but don't make ME pay for it!
How would YOU feel if I asked you to spend your tax dollars to fund my invisible fire-breathing , flying dragon, who tells me the correct way to live my life? NO, you wouldn't like it! And you would have every reason not to like it.
I won't make you pay, NOR will I try to make laws or sneak in legislature to make you pay for the invisible friend who nobody can see, so don't make me do that for yours, and DON'T try to make me pray to your invisible buddy. Keep him to yourself unless someone wants to learn about your invisible friend.
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Yes. Let us pray........
May the 70 virgins that Allah will bless me with in heaven be FEMALES, and may they finally "give it up" when I get there. (Actually, if we are talking eternity, I'll take a couple cute "open minded girls" over the 70 virgins if he doesn't mind.)
May people STOP praying for their favorite team to win the Series, or pray to win the lottery, etc., so Jesus can spend time working on those pesky hurricanes, and all those babies suffering from starvation and disease.
May people who believe that "my God is better than your God", stop killing each other just to try and prove it, and one day just say to themselves "believe what you want. I won't kill you over it". (I don't see that happening, but we can always hope.)
That is my prayer for today. That the Earth, and my children, may survive and religious fanatics don't start a war that will end life as we know it because they think their God has bigger "junk" than someone else's God .
Let's save the pissing contests for drunk guys at Spring Break, where it belongs!
p.s. - May the Church of Scientology NOT sue me or have thier goons stalk me, my home, and my family for all eternity, just so they can keep raking in the cash. Praise Lord Xenu, and his second in command, Tom Cruise.
Jeff
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Diva 31 said:
" I don't commit crime, I don't have affairs with others, I don't smoke, or do drugs....But...I do believe in personal choices, personal faith, personal morals...sex before marriage."
Hmmm......okay, so I just have 3 questions!
1. Are you busy Satuday night?
2. Care to relocate to the U.S.?
3. Where do you want to go for the honeymoon?
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"I will offer one suggestion as to why christians act as they do. Imagine someone who has been blind all there life having an operation and being able to see. Imagine what a feeling it would be to see a rainbow the first day with your new sight. I can imagine the person being very excited and wanting to make sure everyone around seen it. Even though we've seen many of them and it is insignifigant to us, to the person who was blind it is something that needs to be pointed out."
That's a horrible analogy. Getting one's sight back is something they would have cause to celebrate, but if I one day became convinced that there was an invisible flying dragon living in my basement and went around to everyone to excitedly tell them about my new "friend", that would be quite different.
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I agree with you oldsoul.
I get email forwarded almost daily from friends about praying for this or that. Today it was a plead to pass on prayer that God ends cancer. I wrote back saying "why would I do that? If there is a God, he created everything including cancer, so why should I piss him off by suggesting he screwed up and pray that he changes his plans? They didn't have an answer.........
But you can't argue with God issues. When something good happens, it's a gift from God, but when it's something bad, it's somehow some twisted plan of his that nobody can explain.
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"Was I the only one that noticed that the OP states in his profile that he is an "active scientologist."
That doesn't count. Scientology isn't a religion. I mean cone on....they believe the Earth (Or "Teegeeack" as they called it), was dumped with the souls from other planets from their dark overlord space alien leader "Xenu".
If that's a religion, I'm the Pope! :)
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8/18/2008 2:33:49 PM
Things aren't all black and white. We live in a world with shades of gray.
If it turns out the woman is just looking for a father for her baby, you'll find out soon enough, but if she wants some companionship and someone to be able to go out with just for the sake of living a normal life (yes - pregnancy is normal), you'll know that too.
It's best to save the judgement until AFTER you get to know the person.
But of course, for those that for whatever reason just don't want to date someone pregnant under any conditions, there's nothing wrong with that. Don't ask her out, and just say no if one happens to ask you if you want to do dinner and a movie.
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That's why I wasn't sure if it was a common thing now (I was out of dating for a long time). When it happened once, I figured I just had a bad experience, but twice in a row, I started wondering if this type of thing is more common than I thought.
I don't know about the soul-searching thing. That was the first thing I did both times. I asked myself what I might have done to be in that situation. With one of them, THEY made the first contact, and with the other, I made the first contact, so there is no common thread there. With both, we talked a while before actually meeting and nothing seemed to jump out at me, so I don't know what else I could have done to avoid that.
It IS kind of scary. I've been stalked myself twice (a few years apart), but I never thought about somebody being on the other end of the woman's life as far as someone she may have been seeing while she was stalking me.
Dating seems so much more complicated when you're not in your teens anymore :)
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8/17/2008 3:17:19 PM
Hi Daemon66. you said: "I think you have got your nose out of joint.....because someone decided that their ex was a better choice after all..."
Maybe I wasn't really clear in my original post (I worked late and only got about an hours sleep when I wrote it).
No, actually if that were the case, I would probably congragulate her for getting what she wanted. I'm not being sarcastic, I've been there myself years ago.
I'm talking about a couple people that after months of misleading and lying about what the entire relation was , I find that they were writing several emails a day, making constant calls, and at times, stalking their ex'es at their houses to the point where their ex would be getting scared. (I thought the first one was just a fluke, and then it happened with the second one. That's when I started wondering.) As a matter of fact, I found out about one of the women when their ex actually contacted me by phone and asked if there was anything I coud do to get her off his back. I told him I wasn't even aware he existed.
I'm not just talking about someone out of a relationship that has a few feelings they have to work out. I'm talking about women going through major efforts to reunite with an ex who isn't interested in them, all the while giving a completely different story to the one they are dating.
I'm all for a woman that wants her ex back to not give up in her heart if we are just casually daing, but if she initiates something serious while waging an all out battle to get someone back by any means necessary, I consider that a little different and just not right.
Maybe I'm wrong about that. As I said in the first post, I'm big on openness and honesty in a relationship, and maybe I'm asking too much - that's why I'm asking the question. As I said, I was in thsat situation years ago, but I didn't stalk the woman, and I spoke honestly about it to the person I was seeing.
With that said, This is the "Ask A Girl" section, and I hate to say mean things to people, but you are one ugly looking woman! Maybe it's the Adam's Apple...... lol. (But seriously, I appreciate your input...and everyone elses.)
Jeff
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Women Not Ready For Dating
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8/17/2008 9:43:56 AM
I posted this in the Connecticut forum, but that forum isn't visited as frequently as other general forums like this one, so here it goes again.
It seems that many women here and on dating sites in general, are describing themselves as "available" when they are anything but. They may be single or divorced, but many of them are still stuck on their ex, but fail to mention that until a lot of time is invested in getting to know the person.
I'm not talking about the woman who just still has a few feelings left over for a recently ended relationship. There's nothing wrong with that, and life goes on. I'm talking about women who, while dating someone else, is actively pursuing, or hoping that the ex get's back in their life. I think that's something that out of common decency should at least be addressed at the beginning of a serious talk.
Maybe I put too much into honesty when I start a relationship, but something important like that, I would feel it's my obligation to tell the other person that although you are moving on, you aren't quite giving up hope of getting that ex back.
Is this as common as it seems, or did I just make bad choices the last couple times around?
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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8/17/2008 8:58:53 AM
abitofbob says:
"Its easy to dismiss astrology, but it is the old[sic] science known to man, and like it or not it deserves some credence."
There are a couple things in that sentence I don't get. First of all, astrology isn't a "science", it's a superstition. That's NOT my opinion, that's just fact based on definition. (Actually the oldest science would be related to "fire").
Webster's defines astrology partially as: "knowledge covering general truths of the operation of general laws, esp. as obtained and tested through scientific method [and] concerned with the physical world."
There are no general truths that the alignment of planets have any effect on a persons life, personality, or future, and although astrology can be tested using scientific means, every (reputable) test done showed astrology to be no more accurate than picking a slip of paper out out of a barrell with a description that a person feels is "just like them".
Secondly, just because astrology has been around a long time, why would that mean it deserves any "credence"? Torture has been around for centuries. Do you give credence to that just because it's "been around a long time"? What about burning "Witches" at the stake? That was pretty popular a while back.
In college, we had a psyhchology professor that tried an "experiment" with the class of 61 students on the first day. He had everybody write down detailed information about their date of birth, time of birth, and a few questions reagding whether they were born on their due date or early/late. The following week he hand us each a 2 page detailed astrological analysis about our personality based on the information we gave. He then asked for a show of hands on how many people felt it was extremely accurate, very accurate, somewhat accurate, or not very accurate.
Over 50 of the 61 students said the report was "extremely accurate", 8 said "very accurate" and only a couple said it was too general to comment.
The professor then told us that we all got the exact same printout. Needless to say we all learned a good lesson that human traits are very similar no matter when you were born, and people see things they realize about themselves in everything they read that's put in a general way. (Not to mention we were all a little embarrassed.) I've heard of other teachers doing this same "experiment" all with similar results.
If an astrologer gives me a reading and tells me that on the following Wednesday, a red-headed woman will slip in a mall right next to me and break her arm and it happens, I'll be a believer! Chances are the reading would be more like, "Wednesday will be a good day for you, money issues will be on your mind at some point, and you will pass a stranger you find attractive." That pretty much describes every day. Oh, and my lucky numbers will be 5,11,21,24,36. (I'll be really pissed if those numbers come in tonight!)
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What sign goes good with an aries?
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8/8/2008 7:27:11 PM
Great Dane, it doesn't really matter. The way it was explained to me is that if you put a burlap bag filled with Wolfbain around the baby's waist and run around a Maple tree 3 times counter-clockwise at midnight on a full moon, the baby's astrology sign will move ahead to the next sign.
It's the 21'st century. People should know things like that!
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Are there ANY women who don't CHEAT?
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8/5/2008 6:00:22 PM
"It's spelled HYMEN"
Tinydancer,
Maybe he was thinking of Admiral Hyman Rickover, the father of the nuclear submarine. It's a very common mistake. I often mistake a submarine capable of wiping out a country with a part of a woman's anatomy.
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why dont men date pregnant women?
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8/5/2008 2:24:52 PM
Spelling and punctuation, even funnier.
(Accept my apologies if English isn't your first language, however. I admire those who attempt English as a second language. It's very difficult.)
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why dont men date pregnant women?
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8/5/2008 11:58:49 AM
rock hunter (appropriate name by the way, considering the caveman views),
I could go back and break down your posts, but it's already been a long day, and what would be the point? If you don't believe in dating a woman in a particular situation, don't do it. What else is there to say?
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boobs
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8/4/2008 5:37:28 PM
When I wrote my last post here, I didn't even check her profile.
I think she's just playing around. She's extremely cute and has a beautiful body. I know some guys who would send a private jet to pick her up to spend a week with her. (I'll rent one if she's interested....lol)
It seems like she just wants to get some compliments. There is nothing wrong with that though. She has a beautiful body and she has a right to be proud and feel good about it. I'd want compliments if I had a body like that too.
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boobs
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8/4/2008 2:15:57 PM
If I was dating someone with small boobs and they wanted to get them bigger, I'd be against it. Nothing wrong with big ones, but I just think the smaller boobs are cute....so shoot me. But seriously, I'd take a woman with massive boobs who I enjoy being with, over a woman with little boobs that made me want to tear out my brain out through my nostrils evertyime she said something.
But that's just me.........
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why dont men date pregnant women?
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8/4/2008 1:10:21 PM
By the way, I don't want to come off as a hard ass. I'm not here to put anyone down, or tell anyone they are wrong for how they would personally handle the situation either as the woman who is pregnant or the man who chooses whether or not to get involved. I'm also not someone with a "pregnancy fetish" who looks for pregnant women and then dumps them when the baby arrives. I've heard about people like that all too often.
The reason I'm so involved when it comes to this subject is because not only was I eventually adopted, but my father (NOT the biological one) was in the picture while my mother was pregnant. The biological "father" was gone in a matter of months, but my dad was there for me and my mother until the day he died.
So if I sometimes seem a little vocal on this issue, it's because it's very personal to me, I'm not disrespecting other people's view on this. Thanks.
Jeff
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