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cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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Women might understand this more Posted: 4/1/2006 8:59:03 AM
Jerry, take a scientific approach. From the sound of your post, you sound befuddled by her flip flop feelings for you. That's completely understandable. Women are nuts. It's true, but so are we, so we're perfect for each other. It seems you're living and loving in an emotional state right now. When we're living emotionally, we tend to overlook the more pragmatic aspects of a relationship. I'm a pretty sensitive guy when it comes to women and their circumstances (natural and political) in life. But, the bottomline is.... Can you stand it? What I mean is, if, as all these fine women suggest, your girl is suffering from female homonal 'fevers', that's one thing. But if she keeps you bouncing between the 'center of her life' to the 'center of all contempt', then I suggest you plot her. Get a calendar and plot the moods. If you really love her, as you say, I feel for you and this may sound too 'clinical', but better you suffer a broken heart than a broken psyche. Track her 'adoring moods' and her repulsion moods. You'll have to do this for a couple months. If after a couple of months a pattern emerges, then it very well could be hormonal and you'll have to adjust or grow thicker skin to accomodate her flip flop feelings for you in those 'flux' days. If there is no pattern, and the moods of adoration and repulsion are all over the board randomly, run for the hills or begin drinking because some people are truly 'nuts', psycho, looney. . . there is that very real possibility. Unfortunate as it may be, you'll have to decide whether you're prepared to deal with a real psychosis in your life. This 'plotting' is just a suggestion. We all know what it feels like to be in love. We all know that we can be blinded to the obvious when we're in love. I'm just suggesting if you're having a hard time with this, gather data and decide later.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

Msg: 141 (view)

can you love 2 people at once Posted: 2/3/2006 6:55:06 AM
Twilight: Just because it's not possible in your world doesn't mean it doesn't happen between others in their worlds. Not very healthy to close your mind to the possibilities of broader lives and experiences. Eponymouss said it right... it is possible IF you're honest and upfront about EVERYTHING. I learned early on that life is so much simpler, cleaner, easier if you don't lie... especially to your lovers. Lovers are supposed to be your friends and confidants... why lie to your best friends? As for 'being there' for everyone, let me tell you a secret.... love ain't that complicated. It is either there between one or two or five lovers or it isn't. If it is, then you'll find love (the emotion, the passions, the realities) flows like water. Perhaps I'm lucky enough to be involved with mature, independent women because the 'need and fulfillment' aspects of our cumulative relationships keeps everyone's cup full. Perhaps we're all equally blessed biorythmically as well as when someone is down, I'm up and can pull her/them back up and visa versa x3. Just because most of you women, and perhaps men, haven't met someone mature or evolved enough to foresake ego, self, and face to nuture a multiple parnter relationship doesn't mean that there aren't a few of us out here.... more than you might expect... and closer than you might expect. It's just most of us don't have the need to advertise or exploit the situation. And most of us know that we, the man in the middle, so to speak, aren't the power base. If the women didn't accept me, I wouldn't be able to describe all this to you. Men are blessed in a woman's company. I'm blessed three times over. And as for multiple partners in bed or having multiple partners over for dinner, well, my friends are as different and individual as can be. Noone has expressed the desire to meet, much less have dinner or sex with the others. ... and that is fine by me. I never have wanted more than one lover in bed anyway. Maybe I'm too simple-minded, but I need all my wits about me just to manage one well enough to keep her coming... back.

Cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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can you love 2 people at once Posted: 2/2/2006 7:37:58 AM
Being 'in love' is just the tip of the iceberg in a relationship. Of course you can only be 'in love' with one person because it is the initial stage of a longer term evolution or metamorphosis of emotions and caring. Being 'in love' is part of that initial spark and attraction. Some call it 'infatuation' others call it puppy love.... that is if it doesn't last. If those involved find a lasting attraction, then being 'in love' remains and grows into something deeper. Much deeper and kinder and more calming. My personal experience has been 'falling in love' is like cooking spaghetti. A guy can prepare the sauce from scratch, but if the noodles don't stick to the wall.... you ain't got nothin' but sauce... ... ok, lousy analogy, but the point is falling in love is easy because it's natural... primordially natural. Wart hogs fall in love... well, they do. But what sets us apart from wart hogs, and the rest of the animal kingdom, is the ability to realize a good thing and try to make it last.... even if it means working really hard at it. That's what relationships are... wart hog lust with long term planning. ;) While my friends are far from wart hogs, even if they were and I held the feelings for them that I do, it'd all be the same. I just happened to 'fall in love' several times and nutured each 'infatuation' to a fully matured love. No, it wasn't easy. I'm not superman by any means. I simply respect, support and adore them and keep everything honest and upfront. I think that's all any of us want or need. Honesty and repect with a little nuturing and protection. That's all I offer. For this, I have the pleasure of the company of my very best friends. I am blessed that these women accept me. I take nothing for granted.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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can you love 2 people at once Posted: 1/31/2006 8:16:33 AM
It's not a matter of whether YOU can love more than one person... It's a matter of whether those other people can love more than one person.... ;) Think about it. You are so self-absorbed into whether it's 'OK' to love more than one person.... and I don't mean to say being 'self-aborbed' is a bad thing... it isn't. Actually, it's a good thing. But put yourself in one of those other two people's shoes for a moment.... What would you think if you knew the one you loved, is loving you AND another person? Would it bother you? What if you DIDN'T know about him/her loving another person? Would you be obliviously happy NOT knowing about any others? Therein lies the rub.... it's not a matter of whether you can or cannot love more than one person. It's a matter of whether you could be one of many that the OTHER is loving....and would you mind that? If don't mind it, then you deserve the two loves in your life. If you DO mind it, then you're just a selfish, hypocrit and you need to drop both of them and come to grips with yourself first before clinging onto others. I've lived enough lives to know that there is not enough love to go 'round. I personally had been a 'one woman' man forever... so it seemed.... and am now in a place in my life where I've learned that my Anglo-Saxon, Christian-based, one woman for one man works for most folks... but not for me or my dear friends/lovers. I'm involved with several women now. Each knows they are not exclusive to the other. None of them have other lovers than me. But if they did, I wouldn't care, provided everyone was in good health. I love each of them whole-heartedly. I'd do anything for any of them. Which one would I save if our life-boat overturned? The first one I came to, of course. The point is, I'm not so foolish, egotistical, insecure to think that I'm the end-all, be-all for any single woman. But if a woman accepts what I have to offer in friendship, love, passion and life... then I'm blessed. I was a 'one woman' man, but life doesn't move in straight lines. For whatever reasons, I attracted others as others attracted me. It happens. Some of us fight this situation, others.... let happen. I let it happen. I won't deny anything in this life. Each of my friends has found in me a person who is completely honest and upfront about EVERYTHING. Each of them is just as honest in return. They are the most gracious, kind, warm people I've every known in my life. None of us measure the time apart from each other. Nor do we measure the time together. When we find each other in time, there is only that moment... and we savor it as if it were our last moments together. Three years of savory moments later, we are all still together and just as in love. God bless those who find ONE to be with. At least you have found LOVE.... But don't condemn those of us who have found a different path. Life is too big and too short to judge others. Just enjoy that which makes you feel good....... as long as it doesn't hurt others.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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Do men realy think that blonds are more attractive? Posted: 6/12/2005 6:48:27 AM
Blonde is over rated. Goes back to when the first native tribes people saw the first light-haired European on their shores. They thought these 'golden haired' beings were 'gods'..... ... that notion didn't last long. Neither does hair coloring. Physiologically, true blondes are 'difficient' in cells which protect us from the sun's ultrviolet rays. Others would argue that true blondes are difficient in other cells (brain). I've always like the look of dark hair on pale skin myself.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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Jealousy or non trusting Posted: 5/18/2005 9:43:04 AM
Mmmmm. Slurpees. I can see the draw to bed that guy. Just the term: Slurpee Man should make women's knees weak.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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If your partner died would you date his brother or sister Posted: 5/18/2005 9:37:04 AM
Sure. And why not throw in his dog too? How about all his CDs and DVDs too? Can the two of you take over his truck payments and make out in his truck too? Hell, just think, you wouldn't have to change your 'Casa de (his last name here)' sign out in front of your trailer. There's all kinds of advantages. There's a country song about this isn't there? If not, there should be.... fits the genre. something like.... Planted ol Bob Just last week Now I'm humpin Rob (his brother) I'm so damned weak.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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it ok to see a married person if their spouse is out of country Posted: 5/18/2005 9:15:14 AM
Fern, It seems you're not really looking for opinions. It seems you're looking for a specific confirmation that it is ok. You're looking for 'Yes. No problem.' Well, here it is... Yes, do it. No problem. .... .... Now, the other shoe drops.... One of you two is insecure. Guess who it is? Him. Somewhere along the line, you, being a nice sensitive, albeit, slightly misguided, woman will begin to invest some degree of emotion into this star-crossed affair. You, and probably his wife are both going to be hurt, because this guy has no self control or sense of self. Why do you want to associate with such an unavailable, weak man? Woman like you amaze me. You know the answer in your heart and yet you either allow him to seduce you or you simply ignore your inner voice. Get a grip honey. There's a woman out there who thinks the world of this schmuck you're about to bed down with. If you don't refrain out out of basic respect for yourself, refrain out of respect for the other woman.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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What is your favorite movie quote? Posted: 5/18/2005 9:01:46 AM
"No man shall pass!" Black Knight in Monty Python Search for the Holy Grail. "Imagine that.... millions of years-nothing. Then, suddenly, Mozart." Robert Redford in Out of Africa as he plays Mozart on the old record player on the Serenghetti Plain "Abby Something.... Abby...Abby... Abby Normal." Igor (Marty Feldman) in Young Frankenstein 'No one makes it on the first jump.' Matrix

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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so what is it that men really want????? Posted: 5/18/2005 3:49:49 AM
Cutie, I just read your profile. You ask what is it that men really want? The answer is to have a woman like you beside him for life. Simple.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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who the hell has a problem with me? Posted: 5/18/2005 3:35:51 AM
Guys, guys. Give her a break. She's 22. Being 22 nowadays is like being... well, 12, apparently in her case. Face it, we're just miffed because we're not 27 or 28 or in range of taking her up on those silly contradictions in her profile ( guy friends optional, no hanging off the arm please; then ... whoever i'm with is gonna have to like taking me out and showing me off...) ... whatever girl. Sometimes I wish I was still goofy enough to be suckered in by these kinds of ditzes. Fortunately, I've grown up and found the treasures of mature women 28 and up. I remember watching some interviews on TV when I was in my teens and even 20's when guys would say "I'm in my 40s and I've never felt better and have never had as much fun in my life". I remember thinking, 'Yeah, right you old fart." Well, I just slipped over 40 and they were absolutely right. No more immature attitude. No more worrying about getting laid (women ages 28 to 38 are ravenous). No more idiotic dribble from bimbos like this one posting here. I've taken great care of my health so am in top form. I've lived many 'lives' so have a lot to share in conversation and relationships. Life is grand. I wish there was a way to tell all her 'crazies and wierdos' to no sweat her 'rejections'. Let them know the best is yet to come. I wish her luck finding a guy who can accept her one-sided relationship.... a guy who can accept her being gone all the time yet can show her off.... ooops, show her off when she's in town or feels like being shown off.... a guy who will treat her like a lady even as she's shakin' her 'bootay' wit da GURLZ.... a 'soulmate'... with lots of stuff. Is it any wonder guys in her range still prefer PS2s or XBoxes or LAN parties as opposed to trying to figure out that mess? Yeeesh. I'm so glad I'm not hunting in them woods.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

Msg: 82 (view)

men argggggghhhhhhhhhhhh Posted: 5/18/2005 2:43:03 AM
Hi Fiona, Care to share the juicy details of your general statement about 'promise you the world, then let you down'? What exactly occured recently, or apparently repeatedly, that makes you say this about 'men'? I'll venture a guess it's another classic case of 'fox hunting'. Dastardly sport, fox hunting, but it serves as a pretty good analogy here. First, in a fox hunt, there is the 'fox'. That my dear would be you. If I may say so, you are indeed, a fox in every sense of the word. Generally, everyone thinks being a 'fox' is a good thing. No. Being a fox in a fox hunt is about the furthest thing from being a 'good thing'. Secondly, on a fox hunt, there are dogs. Yes, you guessed it, dog in my little analogy are... us. Men. Men = Dogs. There is something about a fox which drives dogs crazy. Whether its the fox's scent or the way it shakes its tail as it bounds over fallen trees in the wood, or maybe it's just the idea of just being close to that cute furry little thing which drives dogs (men) to hound said fox. Now, generally on a fox hunt, the truly vicious, ravenous, treachously intelligent dogs are the ones which catch and maul the cute little fox. Stands true in my little analogy. You my dear, attract and encounter the truly vicious of our kind. They are the ones who have refined the ability to fake sincerity. These dogs are the velociraptors of the dog pound. They are they stards, which give our otherwise respectable dog pound a bad name. All the nice dogs refuse to chase the fox. Either we're too fat and can't keep up or too busy with our X-Box or just bought a new cookbook and would rather figure out how to make a good coffee cake. Whatever the reason, we good dogs, watch the mean, coniving stards chase the likes of you and think... well, another one bites the dust. Now, all that said, you foxes must share part of the blame. You all KNOW you like the attention. Unfortunately, again, it happens to be from the mean dogs. But nonetheless, you like the attention and are willing to risk the romp in the woods with the 'alpha' dogs even though you know, back on the porch, there's a nice dog making coffee cake for you. That's why we nice dogs kinda snicker when a fox posts something like this on a site like this. You got your just deserts while we're just having our coffee cake.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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I need to find myself Posted: 5/18/2005 2:13:45 AM
Hey Vox, I just read your profile. When did you write that? There's a reference to the 'present liberal' govt. This admin is a far shot from 'liberal'. Anyway, that has to do with my point to you.... pull your head out of your ass. Don't take that the wrong way. I mean it constructively...... really. Oftentimes, in our clamouring for a career or in your case, a mate, we lose sight of ourselves. We want something so badly that we consider, and often actually, change our appearance or our opinions in an attempt to be liked, loved, accepted or at least tolerated... I've done it. We've all done it. The smart ones are those who can catch themselves in a lucid moment of honesty with themselves and say "Screw this! I'm NOT going to compromise myself just to get laid." .... ... ok, sex aside ... , compromising ourselves is where we begin to lose sight of varioius, unique aspects of ourselves which make up our true personality. The further we drift away from our true selves, them more we struggle inside. Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm about to paint with big fat brushstrokes here...), but you seem to be the new generation of 'lost boys'. Combine that with having the sensibilities of a wounded artist (pronounced: art tEEst) you are grounded in self-doubt, worry, stress, latent aggression, etc. Being a musician is your salvation, if you can let your inner voice come out. Judging purely by your profile and your squeaky, whining about women telling you to 'find yourself', you need to relax. At least give the woman search a break. Twelve relationships, each 6 to 10 months long, and you're 29 now? That means since you were about 18 you've been busy with someone else's needs, perceptions, quirks, etc. When not busy failing at a relationship you were busy looking for the next one to fail at? Don't you think it's about time to take some time out for yourself. I mean really. Time for yourself. In my opinion, and once again, judging by your profile, you really DO need to find YOURSELF. You judge everything around you, but not yourself. In a collectively conscioius world, that seems a bit .... well, rude. Rude to everything around you and to yourself as well. If you don't take a look at who you are, how will you ever figure out why it is you have that amazing losing streak of 12 failed relationships? (Bythe way, just a little friendly advise.... On your 'last resort' dating site profile here, it's probably not a good attractor to broadcast that losing streak. You may want to reconsider having that on there otherwise, honestly, who wants to date a loser?) Also, top guaging your life by the amount of successfull or failed relationships with others. Guage your life by how often you make yourself laugh.... AT YOURSELF. Face it... we are ALL ALONE in this world. There are hordes of people who will NEVER find a mate. Life ain't fair. There's no entitlement to a mate, to riches, to happiness. We cope with those truths by having hope, by believing in gods, by believing in each other or better yet.....believing in OURSELVES. That said, the ONLY relationship that really matters is the relationship you have with yourself. That's what that chick meant.... find yourself. You've got a great medium with which to do that.... music. Artists have a hand-up in their ability to both explore and define THEMSELVES with their art. In my opinion, that woman telling you to 'find yourself' was the kindest most generous thing anyone can tell someone. It's permission to forget about her and focus on yourself. You know the saying, Once you stop looking, she'll find you. It's true. Good luck man.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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A Soulmate Posted: 3/7/2005 8:38:54 AM
Sadly, I think we've all lost the level of sensitivity to detect a real soulmate. As someone eluded to above, we're so pulverized by consumerisms of what love or a soulmate is that we can't see the forest for the trees. In all likelihood we've all met ours at somepoint, whether the girl/guy sitting behind us in high school or someone we accidentally bumped into on the street. We just were too occupied with something/someone 'more important' at the time. Synchronicity exsists, but are we allowing ourselves slip into 'that' groove, to be there at 'that' moment with 'that' person steps off 'that' bus and into our lives?

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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What would you do if you were me Posted: 3/7/2005 8:23:03 AM
Listen to your instincts. They are always right.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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What would you do if you were me Posted: 3/7/2005 8:16:34 AM
Exactly Baby, this 23 year old is playing at two tables and the odds are NOT in your favor. Walk away before you lose more than the time you've already invested.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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What would you do if you were me Posted: 3/7/2005 8:10:08 AM
You've known him for how long? And you're already embroiled in this degree of drama? What's the next chapter? He confesses about another gf (or better yet, bf)? There's a saying: It's the slowest growing plant which grows into the tallest, strongest tree. Seems you jumped on a speeding train and you have no idea where it's headed. If not run away, step off, step back, let those events unfold as they will and revisit the situation at month 9. If it is 'meant to be', you guys can pick up where you left off. Otherwise, you may have saved yourself a world of hurt and dissappointment.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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What would you do if you were me Posted: 3/7/2005 8:02:36 AM
Babylonia is right.... that situation has 'Run away!!!!!!!!!!' written all over it.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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What would you do if you were me Posted: 3/7/2005 7:59:45 AM
How old is this guy? Is he old enough to know better? You're 25, right? Seems you know better. Seems you already know the answer. Listen to your instincts.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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Women, Deceitful Men and Child Support Laws Posted: 3/7/2005 7:38:40 AM
Did Anakin pay child support to Luke's costodial guardians?

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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Blood donation Posted: 3/7/2005 4:13:14 AM
What really matters is the will to hope.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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What is your most treasured possession? Posted: 3/7/2005 3:59:10 AM
I treasure my common sense.

cordium40

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What do you love more then anything Posted: 3/7/2005 2:39:26 AM
Rain Make a woman laugh Rasberry Chocolate coffee Glenlevitt 12 year old scotch big dogs stuck up cats the sway of tree tops in the wind the nape of a woman's neck the nape of a woman's anything Issi Miaki for men orchids Gino's east Pizza downtown Chicago

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 11:38:33 AM
I have to go to bed.... it's 3:30am here..... waaaay past 'loser' bedtime. But, if either one of you, DragonN or Watchman, ever performed or received oral sex, by DragonN's definition, you committed an act of ........ dare we say it? Perversion.... ewwwwwwwwww. Get the gun, quick. lol Stalemate nothing! Have a great Sunday on that side of the world all..... ~C.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 11:32:35 AM
An no, not from me..... ever in your own personal sexual lives.....

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 11:31:39 AM
Shhhhhhhh..... be vewy vewy qwiet...... I'm hunting hypocrites. Oral sex DragonN? Watchman?

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 11:10:14 AM
Right. Cut and dried obvious. So, DragonN.... you ever given or received oral sex? How about Watchman? Blow job? Ever? Gone down on any woman go arouse her? Just curious....

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 10:56:15 AM
Squeak, I'd been wondering that for the past four pages....

cordium40

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 10:54:10 AM
Confessions: Bluesbabe: I confess. Age 3, I was a tiger. I ate dog food, actually dog biscuits. I didn't think it was a gay act at the time, but now...maybe after some consideration.... it has been quite a long dry spell.... perhaps I should go to the costume shop and ... well, you know... explore 'all' my potential... lol Funniest thing i read in this thread was the guy who pointed out the advantage of being bi-sexual was the doubling of potential dates. Cracked me up. Watchman: confess.. you and Matt are indeed related, right? You wouldn't happen to be a teacher at his high school would you? Just curious....

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 10:34:54 AM
Watchman, you're not suggesting pedophiles and all homosexuals are one in the same category, are you? Because if you are, then forget all the debating we just had. Because if you are putting those two categories together you are flying with a one way ticket and there is no return. Pedophiles, as I mentioned earlier, are predators and NOT human in nature. Homosexuals are NOT predators (though they like to dress up and pretend to be various animals).

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 10:05:55 AM
Humour noted? What humor would that be? That you need help with your wardrobe or that gays are good designers and DO make a difference to woman around the globe by way of their unique 'perspectives'? How valueable is humor or good fashioin to you? Superficial? Perhaps, but they (gays) already have influenced our lives and I'm not talking about rectal influence as WM is so concerned about. I'm too lazy at this moment to look up all gay or 'perverse' Nobelaureates and scientists which made a difference in all our lives, but the fact remains without these 'deviants'' work and accomplishments (off the runway) the world would be a bit less than what we have now. Actually, I wasn't the one who brought CHOICE into this, that was Watchman, I was simply following up his arguement as he laid it down. Regardless, a person's choice is just that THEIR individual choice. They didn't choose it for you or your kids or your dog. And according to them, gays DIDN't choose it for themselves. I don't have facts on the whole 'choice' or chromosone issue and I don't care. It doesn't really matter anyway.... you'd shoot them regardless, right? I just can't image someone Choosing a path of assured persectution, but... whatever. Anyway, please define perversion for me. I'm intereseted how broad a range of behaviour this definition covers. Who else is lumped into your definition of 'perversion'? Am I? Someone who would stand between a bullet and a gay person, is he perverted too? Possibly by assumptions made by the person with the gun? Would that person assume I was gay because I would protect a human being from an ignorant fool with a gun? Perversion is a man made label. As with all man made things it is subject to definition by the man saying it at the time. There was a time in early colonial America when eating a tomatoe would have been viewed as 'perverted'. Thank god those gay Italians put a stop to that nonesense real quick with their delicious colonial lasagna and spaghetti bolognese. And once you make your definition of perversion, does that definition stand true for everyone? Even the guys of the world in Matt's age group who secretly really like the idea of watching two women go at it online? Will they stand behind the definition to the point of finding those buxom porn queens and exectute them? Hmmm. So, if you ask those guys if 'perversion is unacceptable' what will THEY say? 'Homosexuality' includes Lesbian too, right? Or, do we adjust the definition for the pre-pubescent population as 'acceptable'? So, your suggestion that I have compassion for perversion is silly. Perversion is a state of affairs, not a person. My compassion is for the person... not his state of affairs (no pun intended). The point is, we all have the right to not like someone, but we don't have the right to persecute only because we don't like them. One last thing, (Im falling asleep... it's 2am in China now... ) To your comment "After being innundated by a lifetime of media based propoganda and concepts of "political correctness" it is no wonder the clearly obvious is obscured by the garbage. Too much time wasted swimming in the swamp of perversion may dull the senses..." I hate to say it, because I'm not big fan of the media either, but these are the times, ... a historical translation of that is: 'evolution' Everything changes. Whether we like it or not. So, we can either tolerate, attempt to obliterate, or migrate.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

Msg: 135 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 9:28:30 AM
"Actually that is not even close to the truth, especially when they try to classify male dogs sniffing each other's butt as a homosexual behavior..." Perhaps therein lies the real issue.... gay dogs are REALLY freaking you out. Don't sweat it... all dogs go for the crotch, straight and gay.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

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My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 9:22:45 AM
A sense of fundemental morality includes the execution of human beings? What point, exactly was proven other than you are a throw back to the 1920's Germany Brown Shirts. Your obsession to execute otherwise harmless human beings could very well be viewed as a form of perversion itself. What is so difficult to understand about simply human compassion toward our fellow man? You and Watchman are either on a sugar high from your Frosted Flakes or you two have the dimmest view of humanity I have ever encountered. DragonN are your really a woman? Seems odd that a woman, who is usually a giver of life should be so hell bent on the destruction of life, especially life forms that could make a world of difference in your wardrobe. And Dragon, the missing logic was stated... whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant anymore as the premise of this thread, compassion, apparently makes no sense to you either.

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

Msg: 133 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 9:05:02 AM
Watchman, nothing is falling out from under except my chair as I read your pathetic retorts. I never said we should execute homosexuals, I said that is a bit harsh but it would be effective. ...but it would be effective.... that is an endorsement for the forementioned executions. and now... how exactly would you word this law against rectal perversion exactly?

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

Msg: 132 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 8:58:57 AM
There is no logic in this thread.... obviously. If there were, it would have concluded on page one. The 'line' I'm following is you clearly don't represent society at large as you don't seem to seek to be part of it. So, your voice in this is null by virtue of your disinterest in the betterment of society or of the individuals being discussed. A mercenary fights only to fight... no real cause. Just likes conflict for personal gain, not that of a society. And as for your 'they are clearly NOT accepted' comment.... you ever hear of a TV show called 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy'? Nationally broadcast 'popular' show in it's second or third season in the US? Why do you thing that show is still on the air? Someone accepted the idea of five homosexuals giving constructive fashion and homemaking advise to otherwise clueless straight men. Define '...clearly NOT accepted'.

cordium40

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Msg: 130 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 8:46:11 AM
My intolerance? lol I'm not the one suggesting we execute people because they act funny. Time to change the prescription guy.

cordium40

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Msg: 128 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 8:41:05 AM
My point? Watchman, now you're just being silly.

cordium40

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Msg: 127 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 8:39:55 AM
...but you have no tolerance for opposing views ...yeah, maybe you're right... perhaps everyone has a limit to want they will tolerate. I suppose my limit is passed when someone suggests we exectute an entire section of our popluation for no real reason other than to quell their own personal anxiety or unfounded fears.

cordium40

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Msg: 125 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 8:33:22 AM
Oh, someone woke Matt up.... Matt, I DON'T like 'homos'. That's the my point to you and those that would execute them. I don't like them anymore than you or .... well, maybe more than you, but I don't agree with their lifestyle, but not enough to persecute them or even 'eliminate' them. They pose no threat to me physically or mentally. They don't pose a threat to anyone physically.... but mentally, you and others appareantly feel very threatened. Keyword here... MENTALLY threatened. They can't control how you feel about them so it isn't their faulty you are MENTALLY threatened by them. So, you can't persectute someone who is not at fault for anything.... is just ain't right. And Matt, pay attention to the word PERSECUTE. You may not like 'em, but there are those that would actually execute them homos for just being homos. Never did a thing wrong. Born in the US, when to school, college, got a job, paid their taxes, served in the military to defend our country and yet there are those here that would STILL execute these people only because they are 'homos'. Now, does that seem right? There are thugs who rape and kill and rob which we feed, and clothe and educate with our tax money while they server life sentences in our fine state of the art prison system. Well, care for those crimminals, but we want to exectute a well educated, well mannered, quietly composed 'homo'.

cordium40

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Msg: 12 (view)

Appearances. Personality. Politenss. Chivalry. Romance. Posted: 3/6/2005 8:22:42 AM
Kikoro, wait, now let me write this down...... eye contact and a note.... A note? Um, what do I write on this note? Then, after I write it, when exactly do I splip it into her hand? And which hand? What if she is sitting on her hands? Is it ok to slip it into her shoe? or up under her hairband? After I deliver the note, then what? Do I stand there and wait for a reply or return to my seat until called upon? See? I really need some help here.....

cordium40

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Msg: 122 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 8:16:21 AM
Forget it Shore, he's been using the Chinese judicial system and dung beetles back and forth to bolster his arguement for the eradication of an entire human 'deviation' from earth.

cordium40

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Msg: 121 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 8:10:26 AM
Watchman, there's not a bit of hate in my post to you or anyone. As Dragon so eloquently pointed out, I may have slipped on labeling you, but I don't hate you or anyone else... not even gay people. I simply disagree with you. Like you disagree with me, right? Or do you hate me becuase I don't hate gay people? If you hate me, would you excecute me? Now DragonN poses an interesting 'deviation'... 'I am not dodging bullets nor do I seek "social" acceptance. Ergo..." she/he/it opens herself up as a target of any offensive, persecution... So, DragonN, you're a mercenary? A rogue? One who doesn't seek social acceptance kinda puts you in there with .... hmmm.... gay people? Actually, nope, lower than gays as gays actually ARE trying to gain social acceptance. A bullet is an easy answer isn't it? Yes, not too much intellect needed there. Load it, pull the trigger. Right. Either of you two familiar with how India gained it's independence? Familiar with a guy named Ghandi? If you really want to eliminate a growing power, as he eliminated the British rule over India, you may look at how he did it... without bullets. Conversely, how about ... hmmm... a German guy...name escapes me... He came up with this interesting idea of how to 'eliminate' an entire social segment of his country. Called it something like... the Final Solution or something.... and in this solution he rallied all his countrymen to persecute and exterminate an entire social strata of Germany. What was that guys name.....? Darn. Can't rememebr, but he eliminated them without bullets too. I think he used gas.

cordium40

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Msg: 9 (view)

Appearances. Personality. Politenss. Chivalry. Romance. Posted: 3/6/2005 7:38:00 AM
Master Obi Wan Paul, please let me be your student. Teach me oh wise one.

cordium40

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Msg: 116 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 7:30:25 AM
I retract the 'you'... that's a label. I meant to keep it general....

cordium40

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Msg: 115 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 7:24:31 AM
Is this a Star Trek board all of a sudden? There is NO reason to accept degeneration. Remove it. End the potential for its procreation. DragonN, I can hear your words coming out of some dominant alien species' leader speaking to Spock. Besides the fact that homosexuals CAN'T procreate physically, there are their contributions to society (scientifically, socially), which with out them, we'd be in a greyer world of hurt. Again, the sexual offenders, and murderers, I won't disagree with the capital punishment. Hang 'em high. But when you start labeling a social group of people as 'deviants', you're opening yourself up as a potential target. Who's to say there isn't a group discussing how pathetic, white, BBS posters are waste of server space and should be 'eliminated'? lol Surely, even you narrow-minded, biggoted, facists can see this, right?

cordium40

Joined: 2/17/2005

Msg: 114 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 7:10:00 AM
Dude, you're piece of work. In your world we'd enter a Fourth Reich and all goose-step to work. I agree about the reason Kennedy isn't in jail, but that money is a symbol of our nations flexibility. It's why everyone, including your hypothetical 17 year old porn queen, is struggling for it. Money allows a good life. Comfort. Ease of mind. Money is why boatloads of Haitians risk life to get here. Not for the actual money per se, but for the life it can afford them. Hordes of Chinese smuggle themselves to Ireland for the same reason.... better life. If you were in their situation, you'd be doing the same thing... you know it. It's easy for us Americans to stare down at the rest of the world and pass judgment on those less fortunate than us not to happen to be born within our borders. And that's just a political stance. Imagine those poor sexually perplexed homosexuals seemingly at odds not only with us heteros, but themselves. They WERE born within our borders but we STILL pass judgment on them. As someone mentioned before, this social segment of homosexuals has exsisted for centuries, it's not going away. Why wast time, money and thought on it? As Cassy suggests, it's easier to just help them out and get on our way. If you're reverting to insect and Chinese natural selection, well, that's just silly. As long as there are people, they'll be making choices. You can't stop that.

cordium40

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Msg: 113 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 6:53:41 AM
Exactly Cassy. Seems a far better solution to help get someone integrated into our society than freaking out over him and working to kick him out.... or executing him.

cordium40

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Msg: 110 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 6:47:16 AM
You're funny man. While I think killing them is a bit harsh, it sure would be effective... ...effective to what end? To calm your homophobic anxieties? What else worries you at night? Who else should we effectively execute? Pizza boys delivering cold pizzas? God I hate them! .... Ted Kennedy should be rotting in jail right now. ... yeah, but he ain't.... and ain't for a reason. Because we ain't China. (Bythe way, they execute business executives who are convicted of questionable business practices or fudging worker's pay/benefits over here as well. Being a business owner yourself, perhaps you should think about setting a premise/suggestion based on this country's judicial system).

cordium40

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Msg: 108 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 6:32:25 AM
Do you you work for the government? You have some kind of top security clearance that compells you to not break a single law less you lose that clearance? You don't speed? Your taxes are perfect? You don't drive home from a pub? One our country's most prominent Senators today, who comes from a long line of honorable men and whose father made a living from illegal liquor sales in the time of Prohibition, ... even this man, Ted Kennedy, broke the law when he drove over the speed limit while intoxicated and killed a girl. And now he presides of our lawmaking. There's an example for you. Laws are guidlines set up by we the people to mainaing civility and basic human rights. HUMAN rights. Oh, and you might enjoy this bit of information.... Here in China, the 'Big Red Meanie' across the pond... they excecute known homosexuals. No questions asked, just drag 'em to a field and shoot them. The family has to pay for the bullet they use to kill him. Now, I've been over here for about three years kinda picking up on the differences between this communist nation and our own homeland..... and it seems to me, your thinking fits right in over here. Matt would be a rising political star in about a day here.

cordium40

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Msg: 106 (view)

My Struggle in this Life Posted: 3/6/2005 6:04:33 AM
If moral value meant anything to you, then you wouldn't turn in your neighbor's son, who might've mowed your grass, escorted your mom to the corner grocery store, tutored your kids in Spanish once you found out he was a bi-sexual illegal immigrant here only to escape the Haitian tyranny which is 10 times what our forefathers escaped from in Britain. There are a myriad of contexts and conditions you can set up for any arguement, but basic human rights are indeed self-evident and apply regardless if either of us agree with lifestyles of those being repressed. As for your 'consensual pedophilia' scenario, you wanna know who the real criminal is in that scene? It ain't the porn broker or the 'actors' or the girl.... it's us. You and me for voting for, or not doing enough to sway the vote for, consecutive administrations which condition economic markets to where that 17 year old thinks that's her only alternative for cash. Us, for not understanding and getting more involved in the intricacies of the amendments to the Freedom of Speech in which porn brokers slip in and out of loop holes. It ain't a cozy thought having our youth submit themselves to 'fast cash' alternatives, but technically, we, who allow the media to whip our youth into the consumer feeding frenzy that they are in right now are at fault for your hypothetical scenario.... which, again, is a digression from the original point.... compassion for those who are struggling. If you want to keep moving the line in this debate, then realize this is a free country and as I posted before.... those you keep using in your arguements, even your hypothetical examples are acting my CHOICE. And CHOICE is a freedom we Americans like to keep, regardless of the hypocrites.

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