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Msg: 26 (view)

what does it mean Posted: 2/18/2008 9:09:05 AM
Even though you've made a decision........... Perhaps, just maybe, she really has guy friends who, to her, are no different than gal friends. Could be she values their friendship and was hoping you could accept them as friends too and not bolt because of their gender. Despite the plumbing we are all humans and as old as I am I still don't get why you can't have a different gender friend. The idea that a man has to be gay to be friends with a girl.....??????? Let's face it, most people just can't buy the no sex at the slumber party which is too bad in my book. Someone very close to me has more guy friends than girl friends and she honestly trusts them more. Most men say these guys are just waiting for an opportunity........I hope not as some of these friends have been around her for years. I'd hate to think it's a game, for her sake and for theirs too. What a disappointment it would be. On the other hand......maybe she was lying. Hard to tell from here. I'm not so out there that I haven't seen that happen! Good luck to you, she wasn't for you it appears. You were fishing when you found her, cast your line. There is a honey out there for you. Peace, Pine

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Msg: 47 (view)

Strippers..... Posted: 8/11/2007 9:23:21 AM
Well I was a day stripper all summer and I'll tell ya what, it's not an easy job, and the pay wasn't what it should have been. OMG I think my hair hurt by the end of each and every day. What a gal will do to help her daughter get a decent car! By the end of the summer my favorite winter high tops were ruined but the upside was I used muscles, built muscles I forgot I had. The worst part I must confess was trying to stand on that stuff, I thanked my lucky stars that I taught tot ballet in my earlier years because the school was too cheap to by stripper grippers for us. I never was able to handle that stripping machine, guess I'm too little but I worked my hinney off, literally. Everyone at all staff said the floors look GREAT.....I hope they don't want me to do it next summer though. I'll take algebra any day over stripping.

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What is wrong with the persons profile above you in this thread? Posted: 7/24/2007 8:27:02 PM
Wait! Wait! What is that in the third pic billbutler? Where the heck are my glasses? Looks kinda fun.

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Msg: 3756 (view)

What is wrong with the persons profile above you in this thread? Posted: 7/24/2007 8:20:32 PM
Oh my stars MR. billbutler8, you wowed me. I felt like you were sitting there telling me some very interesting deep things about yourself. I'm anxious to follow up on a couple of your interests as I have no idea who these people are. I've been reading your posts with appreciation as well, you are a very insitefull young man. I'm not seeing anything wrong what so ever with your profile. Sorry. Pine

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Brotha friendly or not! Ladies speak up on it. Posted: 7/23/2007 11:45:49 AM
Wolfie and Touch of Class Hmm, I'm not sure who's post I'm responding to...Grandpapi or Jen tl men. newbie confussion I'm sorry but hip or not '"brotha" this kind of post does stand near the line of a racist inquiry in my view. We are all "brothas and sistas", brothers and sisters of the same tribe in that we are human, despite what kind of walls we try to throw up. We are all brothers and sisters in the eyes of the Lord. Not to be rude but I would hesitate in calling you brotha in person, had my hinney on that line before, and quite innocently might I add. As I spent my formative years in schools where I was in the very small minority I've learned to tred softly with labels as the labels change, sometimes at the drop of a hat. Isn't it kinda sick that I can comfortably call men of other races "brotha" and fits in many situations other than race? Oh yes it does! When I was in Jr. High and started High school the "N" word meant "brotha" more often than not, but you'll unlikely ever hear me use it again as long as I live, because outside the circle or coming from my skin tone it would be the major insult, that I agree it was first most likely intended to be. But it was the lingo then and still is in some circles. And silly me I would just be using the lingo I grew up with, and be clueless until all heck broke out with someone. Again I holler out, INTENT. Choose your battles, if it's not the intent of the person to insult or label, if it's only lingo or used for descriptive puposes, lighten up. What I'm trying to say is labeling is a slippery can of worms we could live better without, it can bite your hinney when you're not looking. A brotha to me is a male friend who's character is akin to mine. Yes, I'm still struggling with the thongs/flip flops terms. Caught myself trying to grab my underwear again to go out to the garden yesterday. Will I ever quit slipping up with that one? Now don't start jumping up and down thinking I'm one of those who really does somewhere in the back of my mind consider skin tones before I agree to friendship, because I don't. I lost a dear love when I was younger because he had to go to Georgia in 1970l to take care of his father, and it would have been a racist nightmare the family at that point did not need. I married and stayed with a hispanic man for 33 years. Even though interacial relationships are still difficult, I love, like and dislike based on character, not color. I can speak for only myself I realize, but I do see more eyes being open to qualities rather than race. I do see that we can gently educated many racist, but I see too, many undereducated, spiritualy unenlightened folks throwing around labels and prejudices at such break neck speed that it's a wonder we're not all on the floor, too dizzy to stand. Too bad I won't live long enough to enjoy a racist free world. Have patience, the right lady will come. She may be here, she may not be, who knows what tone she will be....let's just hope she is looking for your qualities first, and you never have the misfortune of spending time with someone who harbors doubt in you or your relationship based on your skin tones. Maybe you should consider a mutt like me. We can't participate in racisim. Not a flirt, I'm in for friends and forums and old enough to be your mama but Jen tl man, you look like a pretty boy to me, you are in LA, get out there and mingle. There is much to do in LA that leads to opportunity in meeting a lady. Be thankful that at your age you live in a place where opportunity abounds. Happy fishing!

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Msg: 3734 (view)

What is wrong with the persons profile above you in this thread? Posted: 7/22/2007 11:05:22 AM
I think I got a good idea of what makes you, you. I loved that you invited the reader to know you better on forums. about Two things I would think about on your profile are that you find it easier to let others bring out the best in you......careful, remain true to yourself and don't risk being led around by a nose ring and the pictures. I see a hint of mischeif in one pic but I know there is more. How about some brighter, lighter pics? Joke with the photograper and let's see what happens.

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UFC can not compare itself to boxing. Posted: 7/21/2007 2:44:13 PM
No girls allowed? Pu leeze! Women compete! Geez. Even though I've never been into watching fights, I watched enough boxing with my grandfather growing up and from what I've seen boxing and UFC are like apples and oranges. Caged Fury 6 tonight in Kauai! If anyone hears the results tonight give a holler! TV and news is limited for me and my boy is on the card. I'm always a wreck waiting to hear from him. Pine

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Racial Discrimination Posted: 7/18/2007 7:59:42 PM
scorpiomover and Geneseo How shocking, I can remember in Oakland, California during the early 1960's, under Black Panther movement infuluence mind you, we Jr. & Sr. High school students used the n word and I was white Paddy, without a thought in many cases that we were offending or insulting one another. Hey, sometimes intent was different, we were teenagers, but more often than not it was a noun such as gal or guy. Hmmm, could it have been the intent behind these words? Could it have been that we identified with each other as humans on some level and let the wall of prejudice down once in awhile? Intent, we can usually tell can't we? We can tell if this person is a racist or simply including a culture in their world of experiences they wish to identify with. We can go to the moon but we can see past skin tone....amazing. I like to give my parakeet and dog speel right about now. Have ya ever seen a green parakeet male reject a blue or yellow parakeet female? No, neither have I, and I used to raise them. How about a Labrador Retriever turning down a poodle in heat? Hmmm, I thought not. Yet we with so much more mental capacity can determine that with humans.......hold on, check that linage before you befriend that no doubt, in this day and age, mixed up breed of a person. ROTF over here. I read an amuzing little book recently. Politically Correct the Ultimate Storybook. "Politicaly Correct Bedtime Stories, Once Upon a More Enlightened Time, and Politically Correct Holiday Stories" by James Finn Garner. Ya know, I'm half tempted to google who in the heck determined that my little rubber shoes that I've worn at different times over many decades should now be called flip flops instead of thongs. I thought those kind of chonies we call thongs now used to be called G-strings. What the heck? Can't ya'll get enough of the isms? Is nothing sacred? Let me just say that there a millions of folks out here who are sincerely not haters and do their best not to use offensive language towards another of different race, religion or class, but if ya look hard enough I bet you can find something to whine about. I'm grabbing my thongs and heading out to the deck. Aw geez, intent folks, intent. Ta Ta For Now

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Guys in PRISON on POF? WTF? Posted: 7/18/2007 6:07:59 PM
Well I must confess...WTF.... entered my mind when I saw the subject line. Excuse my English. And let me tell you why. But let me first show my manners and answer your questions OP. No I haven’t received any mail from a prisoner that I know of and yes inmates no doubt think they can snag a fish on the outside because women do write to them. They are human. They could be evil or they could have just lost their minds momentarily and reform. We’ve heard it all. But they are being punished, it’s to what degree that seems to be the background debate here, as a whole. Back to whether prisoners should or should not be permitted to troll the waters online. Consider this scenario if you will. It may sound off target for a minute here, but give it thought, please. You will better understand one side of the h**** no party. You have a citizen in the US who works in public education as a paraprofessional. A class teacher’s aide. Could be this person was hired to assist a special circumstance child or children. Also known as special education, oooppps, resource, where workers used to be hired at a higher wage for higher risk of bodily injury. A department that grows and grows, largely due to parental substance abuse, legal or not. But with cuts in education….. This person no doubt works with all groups in the class as well, assisting in language arts, social studies, algebra….I think you get the idea. This person no doubt corrects papers, assists in state testing and a number of other things valuable to the education of our country’s future generations. This person was probably required to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 units of college to secure the job, had to clear fingerprints and a physical, yet this person could very likely start out with an income of a whopping $7.42 per hour, in Calif.. Working 37.5 hours per week they may bring home after taxes, insurance, summer account and required PERS around $526 a month. Yes, monthly bring home pay! This person probably finds summer work too, but even with that extra income probably grosses less than $15,000 a year. That doesn’t cut it, even out here in the woods in a trailer. Crime no doubt pays better. And these people are doing a good job for the system despite the growing lack of parental involvement in their children’s lives, for whatever reasons, filling in every blank they can. Providing extra care to those wee ones from such dysfunctional families you often see when a parent is in prison. Why? Because they care. They recognize the innocent. And you think this person would want to pay for prisoners to have Internet or cable TV? For entertainment? You can’t be serious. IMHO some posters priorities are shocking when it comes to spending tax dollars. Prisoners get high-end ice cream? Please! This person probably has no use for weight machines, they probably buff up just fine doing all the hard labor they can’t afford to hire out. This person might treasure a bit of cable TV if they could afford it, but takes heart that they can see PBS and another channel without charge until at least Jan. 2008. No worries, many of these people haven’t seen TV for years, we just learn about the discoveries and news from the welfare kids who have satellite if we are too tired to spend the time with our dial-up on ol' fashioned country lines. But alas a living wage for hard working, honest citizens is not a priority in many minds especially when they have the rights and comforts of the poor, picked on prisoners to consider. This person probably has more first hand experience with 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances than many readers would care to consider and certainly not all with children. This person is probably too forgiving and compassionate towards the mistakes of others. A dumb a## in some eyes, a teacher in other’s. Honestly making a difference for the children in my own eyes. This person just can’t figure out how they can work so long, hard and compassionately, be a decent citizen, work toward the betterment of their country’s future and not be due the same comforts as a criminal in the eyes of too many of their voting fellow citizens. You’re cutting me deep here. Criminal’s comforts? Criminal’s rights? Bah humbug. I need a roof and sufficient water on my property. We need to earn a living wage. We work hard. I’m already helping prisoners by caring for their child’s education and emotional well-being while they are suppose to be paying their dues for their crimes against society. When they bailed on their kids, I got their kid’s back.. And if you think multiple DUI’s hurt the babies less than murder. HUH? What planet are you from? Maybe over time, but not now. The confusion is intense and somehow teachers and aides have to educate through that fear. While they pray for guidence on how to steer that child towards a better future than their incarcerated parent. Will you chew on that before you vote next time? Hmmm, living wages vs. a criminal’s comfort needs. I could think of many, many other unmet needs in our communities that are worthy of consideration long before discussing the comforts of prisoners. Prisoners on POF? I hope not because outside contact in so wide a venue, off my back too, doesn’t set well with me. And now ya’ll are telling me that they have pay TV and high end ice-cream and a work out room? They aren’t out brushing for forest - fire prevention in triple digit weather like me? Holy macaroni folks, what is the world coming to? The priorities for our tax dollars are………………..sigh. I’m not talking chain gang here, but……..do you folks realize that most of our fire departments are volunteer in these forests? And these volunteers are libel? That’s another can of worms. Consider the hundreds of thousands of folks nationwide who are working poor, education required, who’s needs you may wish to consider at the polls before you fluff up prisoners. I don’t want to run across a murder or a number of pedophiles, I may have personal, kinda sorta, bones to pick with over the devastation they have caused for their children, here. Please assure me the convicted sharks and piranhas in the pond are a myth. There's enough loose out here to keep track of! Grabs towel and heads for the plastic pool on the porch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that will stop the madness. LOL Holy macaroni look at the size of this post.....that's why I don't post. But today, today I won't hit cancel, just for the heck of it. Peace

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Msg: 107 (view)

What brought you to POF Posted: 7/17/2007 9:44:05 AM
My brother is on here somewhere.......he told me about POF. As I have only been out of a very controlling , VLTR for 7 months, the forums are perfect for me to get back in the groove of how to talk to people, what the current issues are now and all that jazz. Okay, I'm already addicted to forums! Now I just have to quit lurking and jump in!!! Who knows, I may make a couple of friends and that would be a good thing. Sitting on this mountain can, when I take a break, be just a wee bit lonely. LOL, I've been on break for 2 days now....hey, I'm injured. Pine

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As an adult can be considered acceptable to be seen in tears because of physical pain? Posted: 7/4/2007 8:14:44 PM
Billions of humans have cried from pain. As have billions of animals. I've heard that even plants scream, from pain. Seriously. We cry from physical pain, we cry from emotional pain. There is no reason to feel embarrased or ashamed. You are normal. The person I would question is the one who does not show empathy toward the suffering brother or sister before them.

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Random Acts of kindness Posted: 7/4/2007 5:41:43 PM
Have you ever noticed that just a smile will brighten someone's day? Next time your in the grocery store..or where ever..and you see someone who looks sad, or grumpy, give em a big ol' smile and a hi....catch them a couple of isles over and guess what? They are smiling. It's too easy. I never forget those times when I'm wrestling with a 50 pound bag of dog food and someone gets it out of the cart and into my car for me. They have no idea how much less pain I will suffer because of their kindness because my disability is not visible. Believe me, I always try to lend a helping hand to those who can do less than I, a tiny pay it forward. Random acts of kindness bring hope to this crazy world.

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are you glad the hippies have gone? Posted: 6/22/2007 7:49:34 PM
Relax Johnny, breathe, it isn't so, it isn't so. All you hep cats will find each other.

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Msg: 56 (view)

are you glad the hippies have gone? Posted: 6/22/2007 6:37:37 PM
The hippies haven't gone, nor will they. Take a closer look. See those simple people over there who grow their own vegetable without toxic chemicals? The ones who live as self suffeciently as their circumstance allows? Even make their own soap . They may be veg. heads claiming something unfathamable to you.....that they couldn't bear to eat a brother or sister. Perhaps they do a little weaving, mommie la may sew the wardrobe, she shows her children bugs, snakes, birds, and clouds rather than TV. They may weave baskets or spin wool or perhaps they are politically involved. They could be Mr. and Mrs. Plain, next door. They well may be the most involved parents in your neighborhood. They no doubt suppliment their children's education to include much more than available in the school system. They can fix a tractor, plant, tend and harvest a crop, find everything edible in the area.....blah, blah, blah. They well could be a rocket scientist, but in their souls, they are hippies. Because they try to tred lightly upon the earth. Or were you talking about slakers? Party animals? Who were we talking about?

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Hippiedom Posted: 6/22/2007 4:25:06 PM
Bingo ! I hear you Girlflower. That little flowerchild may never grow out of it, and was that not what they wanted inititally (?) and that barefoot girl with the long hippie dress may not thrive in a life of negativity. Does anyone? EWWWW Pine

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Hippiedom Posted: 6/22/2007 10:28:17 AM
Great thread! Oh do I remember and I'm still a flower child at heart. Must some be leaking out though, cause the kids at school call me the old hippie. Not good, but we all laugh together and I change the subject. I was raised in SF so I was there for the bohemian era as well. I really liked the Blue Unicorn coffee house with it's poets and musicians, but it was not long before I was an Avalon Ballroom baby. Had a pass at the door most of the time thanks to the Moby Grape, the puppetman or a friend at the door. Only problem was I was 14 and on my own. Sat next to Janis Joplin in the green room once and when she passed me her bottle, I passed her my reefer without realizing who she was. She thought that was amuzing. I loved the light shows there, have yet to see one equal since. Demetris' puppets rocked. Wasn't long before I moved to the commune in Ben Lomand, above Santa Cruz, the only teenager there. Yep most folks would be surprised to learn that weekly meetings were a must attend and there were lists for must do and must not do. Of course most people don't realize there were 2 kinds of "hippies". I still don't know how they managed to inch me behind them in the ID search alongside the psycodelic bus all the way to the door, every time. We always got stopped going into the city. I was on a side street during the big SF peace march but our group never made it out. That was a confusing day. Married a musician at 17, divorced 6 months later, he liked other drugs that made him weird. He rocked on the sitar though, he was a musician and a half. Woo hoo. That summer of love in the city was crazy, people were flowing in like wine. I still wear patchuli at home, it's my peace scent and I wear my strawberry oil anywhere, anytime. It was just this year my youngest daughter scavenged my bells outta the costumes and wore them. She especially loves the Mick Jagger tounge on the hinney. Still have some of the jewelry too. I could tell many a story from those days but usually when I do people look at me and ????. Yep, it's all true, I'm a flowerchild. And I'm happy to report I've returned to the forest........just not near Santa Cruz, way out of my price league now and besides, it's just not the same anymore. True confession, even though I wasn't a big fan of the early Beatles I recently bought Sargent Pepper's and it's great to dance on the porch to....or picking weeds. Still have a lot of those vinyls (sp, again, where's that coffee?) and it seems like only yesterday sometimes. Now if I could only get my act together with this separation (forever) from the long term marraige and get my costume business back up..........I could quit the 9-5 and live more akin to how I feel. And I will. pine

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