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Thread: I don't get dating, I just don't... so I avoid it.
ejesq
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I don't get dating, I just don't... so I avoid it.
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6/7/2009 3:31:50 PM
I think you really need to evaluate why you feel so eager to know where things are headed with someone after only one meeting.
The woman I was out to meet was insisting that we see eachother today. She was very nervous and openly eager to see me again, if not all weekend. Smiling and obviously happy she told me she'd email me as soon as she woke up today.
This is a red flag that she is a flake.
Maybe she had a late night or maybe she's busy today but it just seems so backwards from the way she was acting the other night. I don't get it? I keep telling myself to let it go and forget about her, I mean she's obviously not..? Well what I am trying to say is that she hasn't kept her word, she hasn't replied and her phone is off. That's not really condusive to being interested in someone is it?
Relationships are a two-way street. She should be trying to impress you as much as you are trying to impress her. Don't try to rationalize for her behavior, and don't dismiss your feelings. If this is how she acts towards you, and if this is how her actions make you feel, then perhaps she's not for you.
ejesq
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Give us single Dads a break
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6/7/2009 2:49:29 PM
They don't owe him anything, he still has the right to vent about it. I don't see where he said they owe him anything or they should change something, all he wants in consideration and understanding. That is not asking to much. I don't think anyone would expect any less of anyone else.
I once had a guy who had kids and was interested in me tell me I was "selfish" for not wanting to date men with kids.
ejesq
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If Being You Doesn't Work, Be Somebody Else!
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6/7/2009 2:37:03 PM
We can all change certain habits, or ways of presenting ourselves, as a means of personal growth. But we should not change the essence of who we are as individuals.; our values, our faith, our aspirations.
ejesq
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Hotness does not overcome dull, boring or shallowness
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6/7/2009 2:32:24 PM
Hotness does not overcome dull, boring or shallowness
Beauty is as beauty does.
ejesq
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Money and Dating
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6/5/2009 9:00:11 PM
Not ALL women are golddiggers...............if this is where its headed....
It's a bit sexist, as equivalent men are just called financial messes.
ejesq
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is a man that's taken more attractive than a man thats single?
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6/4/2009 7:45:55 PM
Nope. Available men are definitely more attractive. And I've noticed that a lot of men who are so-so at best get an inflated sense of self when they are involved, and ACT like every woman in the world wants them. (Not intended for OP, just my observation in general)
ejesq
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Give us single Dads a break
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6/4/2009 7:43:04 PM
Im just gonna vent, respond if you feel necessary. I work 40+ hours a week mon-fri I have my daughter and her sister fri-sun. I dont have alot of time to date, but damn dont punish me/us for taking care of business. I work 40+hours a week so I am able to give her mother the child support she needs to provide for her. I have her fri-mon because I love her and think getting someone to watch her while I go out , is wrong on many different levels. I can basically only date sunday night thru thursday night.
On the one hand, you seem to have your priorities straight. On the other, can you really blame women for not being excited about falling dead-last on that same priority list?
ejesq
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10 yrs and 50 pounds
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6/2/2009 8:02:57 PM
Men do lie about height, and will exaggerate by as much as six inches. They also like to omit the fact that they have children or are in some stage of a live-in relationship.
ejesq
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What are some good dating sites?
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6/2/2009 7:52:49 PM
One site I would NOT recommend it E-Harmony. Way too many hoops to jump through for an initial direct communication, and they'll send you a note attesting to having found a 98% match, but you're not that person's basic physical type.
ejesq
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Done with Internet Dating.....
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6/2/2009 7:43:47 PM
I admittedly only come onto this site to participate in forums. I don't think online dating is for me, either.
ejesq
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How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?
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6/2/2009 7:40:30 PM
At 30 I'm finally starting to come into myself.
ejesq
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Question for the ladies - need perspective
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5/31/2009 6:30:54 PM
Well, some of it you can chock up to individual preferences. However, I think the universal turnoffs would be:
- repeatedly talking about your ex(es)
- comparing her to other women, specifically or in general
- continually putting her on hold when speaking on the phone, or texting in her presence.
- not calling when you say you will, not showing up on time, otherwise being a flake.
- being cranky, griping about women in general
- sloppy appearance
- lack of manners, whether belching, failing to hold doors, or walking 10 feet ahead of her.
- nickel and diming, to the penny, on dating expenses.
- asking "when are you going to _____" for me.
ejesq
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What is classified as a date.?
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5/23/2009 9:52:12 AM
Any time put aside for a one-on-one interaction with a specifc other person at a specific time and place qualifies as a "date," whether in a 'romantic' or a platonic context. If, on the other hand, two people each plan to participate in the same activity, independent of each other's participation, that is not a date.
People play symantics on this issue when they stand you up, as though you would have gone out to a specific restaurant, movie, etc. at a specific date and time, regardless of their participation. But if you would have chosen to do something else but for an agreement to meet with another person at a specific place and time, then it is a date.
ejesq
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Just Needed To Vent
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5/23/2009 9:22:04 AM
The moral of the story is that when dealing with people, actions speak louder than words, and you have to trust your gut instincts about people.
Your situation is really no different than in 'real' life, when someone is still constantly in contact with their exes over the phone or through private e-mail. The diffence is that you feel all the more 'played' when it's done in the dating site realm, because it is literally right in front of your face.
It would be one thing if the person were open and honest about the fact that you were only casually dating, and that they were still actively pursuing other people. Instead they played the mind game of actively pursuing other people, while assuring you that they were not.
ejesq
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So just how wrong is it?
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5/22/2009 7:50:32 PM
i'd say it's probably dumb to post photos with other people in them because of the reason you mentioned. unless they are unaware that the other person is much better looking than themselves.
Some profiles have ONLY group photos, and I guess you're supposed to guess which person actually belongs to the profile. Heaven forbid you get it wrong...
ejesq
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What is going on here?
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5/22/2009 7:45:51 PM
I emailed him a couple of weeks ago, and asked if he had changed his mind. He said "no, not at all, dear". Then nothing, no call, no email since. he probably has changed his mind, right? I feel I opened the door by emailing him after no call, when I asked if he had changed his mind. He does have my number.
If he's had your number but has not actually left a message in a few weeks (if he did in fact call) then he's changed his mind, i.e. is 'not that into you.' It stinks, but what can you do?
ejesq
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Why do you need my email address?
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5/22/2009 7:40:41 PM
Why do men email on PoF only to ask for a personal email? This IS email!
I can see why men do it on the pay sites like E-Harmony and Match, because they're too cheap to actually pay the registration fee. But it really makes no sense to ask for a personal e-mail address on a free site like POF.
ejesq
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Question about Ethnicity...on the profiles
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5/20/2009 8:33:38 PM
when it says ethnicity...I see they put CAUCASIAN. I look at the picture and their features and even name are Iranian, Indian, Hispanic.
It's a cultural thing. But what does it matter? If you come upon a profile where the person doesn't interest you for whatever reason, just move on. It's a free site.
ejesq
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rejected by your own race/culture
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5/17/2009 7:13:57 PM
I think men are men regardless of skin color. However....I can also say that if you date a black men 9/10 times they may display some stereotypical behavior. You may not be in that category but the women you are approaching are probably attractive, successful, tired of the crap, and expanding their horizons with a new flavour
Amen @ sushiq! Chock it up to a cultural thing that you can't understand if you're not of that culture. But certain black men will come right out and say that they believe they can have anyone (meaning any race partner) that they want because as black men they are the most desirable. But as a black woman you are the least desirable, and should be happy that anyone will give you the time of day. Utterly backwards and just plain wrong, but that's how certain black men think. If you don't believe it, go watch a black film. I guarantee that there will be a couple where the man is acting up, and when the woman confronts him he declares that he's 'going to get a white woman.'
I think one rationale behind these attitudes is that there is a statistically real achievement gap between black women and black men, where the women outperform the men socio-economically. These attitudes, as expressed by the men, can be used as a means to keep black women 'in their place.'
ejesq
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rejected by your own race/culture
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5/17/2009 1:04:51 PM
Over the last year or two i've found myself being attracted to black women that are NOT attracted to black men(no it's not a "want what you can have"type of thing), because i find out that their not interested in black guys way after i've let them know i'm interested in them, it's annoying and weird, i feel like i'm in the "twighlight zone"...lolol,..has anything similar happened to you?
I know exactly what you mean, as I have met a number of black men who profess to not be attracted to black women. I've also met men who are interested in black women, but do not find me to be sufficiently black. I choose not to waste my time and energy on trying to change people's prejudices and preconceived notions. Instead, I look for people who are do find me attractive and are interested in finding out who I am as a person.
ejesq
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Had the best date ever!!
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5/17/2009 10:58:27 AM
Congratulations, and good luck.
ejesq
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How do you handle the first date if not what you expected
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5/17/2009 10:56:13 AM
Why not call them on it?? Maybe a little public humiliation will be just the jolt they need to man up and be honest!! (This would apply to both male and female)
You don't have to humiliate them. But I would definitely call them on it. Maybe they used to be really buff, but have hit a rough patch, have fallen out of shape, and are embarassed by it. If they lie about their age or their height, it's usually because they feel discriminated against because of it. It does not change those facts though.
The one thing I have zero tolerance for is an individual who claims to be single but is either still legally married or co-habitating with their "ex." That should be disclosed up front.
ejesq
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Broke up over 2 weeks ago and he still keeps calling
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5/17/2009 10:48:26 AM
It has been just over two weeks ago when I told him That I could no longer see him for I just was not feeling a connection. He has called me everyday and sometimes 3-4 times a day and I have not returned his calls.........Do I need to call him and tell him to stop this nonsense???
I would e-mail him and say that you will file a police report if he continues to call you. Then I would make good on the promise if he continues to call. One call or visit from the cops might be enough to end the harassment without going through the time and expense of a restraining order. But if the calls continue even after that, you'll know that you need the order.
I really do not want to mean but I am wondering if that is what I need to do???
It's not really a question of being mean. It's about personal safety. Stalking is a sign of an emotional disorder, and he may lack the ability to appreciate that his behavior is in fact disordered.
ejesq
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People who are in a relationship - still looking online....
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5/17/2009 10:38:41 AM
When you find a woman who you have been dating and you profess to love them and want to spend the rest of your life waking up beside them ... why ... oh please tell me why...would you continue to go "online"?
That's a question that only your significant other can answer for you.
ejesq
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How do you handle the first date if not what you expected
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5/17/2009 10:36:49 AM
I think there's an art to it, as with anything else. If they don't look like their profile picture, I'll ask when the photo was taken. Why not?
ejesq
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If you think you are a nice guy, that's cool... but maybe you are really just an
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5/17/2009 10:34:12 AM
We've all heard those subtle letdowns before or know someone who has. But as for the so-called nice guy or recipient of this fateful label, he is left to figure out what it is about him that is so nice and so perfect for the friend zone, but nothing more.
It's not just the men who suffer this. Many women are in the unpleasant position of being the type of woman that men want to marry, but not the type they'd want to date. That's when you get the whole "I'm sure you'll meet someone wonderful" song and dance.
ejesq
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Your Worst Kissing Experience
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5/17/2009 10:26:37 AM
It was an online date where the man, despite what his profile said, was only 5'4" and otherwise not my type physically, and was a bit of a pervert. I'm trying to be reasonably polite and make it through the date. I believe that we were at the coat check and as I turned to put my coat on, he kind of jumped up and tried to kiss me. It was cold, and wet, and not that appealing at all.
ejesq
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Follow Up Emails. Should we even bother?
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5/17/2009 10:17:12 AM
My question is if somebody reads but does not delete your email is it worthwhile to send a follow up email. Or is no response pretty much always going to be I am not interested regardless of if your email gets deleted or not.
For me, if I read the e-mail and don't respond right away, there are two possible scenarios. (1) I am somewhat interested but am too busy or too tired at the moment to respond, (2) I am not interested, but because of the length of the email, etc., feel a bit guilty about deleting it.
Either way, getting a second e-mail before I respond makes me feel either rushed or harassed. If the e-mails still in my inbox, I know where to find you.
ejesq
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Must You Be At 100% To Go On A Date?
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5/17/2009 10:11:57 AM
Do you go on the date anyway, hoping your mood will improve if the date goes well? Can the date go well if you're not feeling like you're at your peak? Can you fake it?
Would you cancel the date and reschedule for another time?
Well, I had the unfortunate event where I witnessed someone close to me having a seizure the same afternoon that I had a date scheduled. But they were examined by medical staff, cleared, and went home. I went on the date anyway, and was a wreck. So yes, I would say that sometimes it does make sense to cancel a date based on your mood.
ejesq
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Are you threatened, when dating someone who speaks a Foreign Language?
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5/10/2009 7:21:31 PM
I am not at all threatened by a second language. I live in New York where a LOT of people are bi-lingual, and I have many friends, and some past boyfriends who are bi-lingual. The only thing is that it can be a little rude if they start carrying on extended conversations in your presence. But if they're aware then it's not a big deal. I've had friends put on a foreign-language TV program with me sitting there; it's more that they forget that you don't speak their language.
I would definitely consider learning the other language if things became more serious.
ejesq
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Loners vs. lonely
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5/10/2009 6:56:14 PM
I think I am a "conditioned" loner.....
I've been on my own for so long......I now prefer my own company most the time!
I'm starting to feel that way myself. When I'm by myself I can pretty much do whatever I feel like, without having to compromise or coordinate with anyone. And I find many extroverts to be annoying, as they have an innate need to be seen and heard, even when it's nothing remarkable.
ejesq
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Guy who turned down woman twice now wants her... again.
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5/10/2009 6:08:54 PM
The thing is, she's a single mom and at the time of the second date she was out of work. When he told his male friends about her situation, they convinced him that she was a golddigger, white trash, etc. He went to her house, let her know that he wasn't into her and told her all about the discussions and what his friends thought of her. He even said that she wasn't "good enough for him". He texted her a few times after but she never replied.
Sorry, but if that is not burning bridges, I don't know what is.
He has now "reevaluated" her and decided that the friends were wrong and she's exactly what he was looking for.
So he'll now inform her that she is in fact "good enough" for him. If that woman has a shred of dignity and self-respect, she'll tell him to take a hike. (nicely, of course)
Your friend is an absolute prick.
ejesq
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Textmessaging on a date
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5/10/2009 6:02:29 PM
I was meeting someone for the first time at a coffee shop and after a little bit of chit-chat, he pulls out his cell phone and startes checking all hi text messages. He took a good few minutes doing this too. When he was finished, I asked him what he was doing, and he said, "Oh my friends are just funny, was that rude?"
That's happened to me before, and it's absolutely, without a doubt extremily rude.
ejesq
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bad experience?
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5/10/2009 5:19:20 PM
i dont know how a girl can do that
She's just a flake.
I met a man at a party once, who was fawning all over me and asking for my phone number. The NEXT day I literally ended up in line behind him and his date at a different party, and he acted like he didn't know who I was.
How anyone can be that flaky is beyond me, but it happens. As for the OP, I think the issue is that this woman proceeded to talk with him for a full week after their first date, and never let on that she is seriously seeing someone else. If they had just met as 'friends' and not gone on a date initially, there would be no expectation of availability.
ejesq
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for the ladies....can you TRULY say money ain't a factor?
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5/10/2009 5:13:22 PM
for the ladies....can you TRULY say money ain't a factor?
Nope. I would be lying if I said I could put up with a man who can't hold a job or pay his own bills on time. I don't want to be any financially worse off with a man than I am as a single person. If that's wrong, then so be it.
ejesq
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A little help here please.
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5/10/2009 5:09:52 PM
First, keep in mind that a LOT of men might hit on her if she's the greeter at the gym. Just go in and say 'hi' and try to build up a rapport slowly on each visit. One day offer to bring her a soda or coffee, etc. at work. Then ask her out.
ejesq
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I think it is rude to.
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5/10/2009 5:06:22 PM
Yeah it's rude. It happens. It's life. There's nothing you can do about it except to NEVER again take that person's calls (certain weirdos call me after 6 months or 2 years out of the blue) and just move on with your life.
ejesq
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Men's guilt
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5/10/2009 4:51:13 PM
Why does a man think it is okay to attack someone when they politely tell them they are not interested in dating someone with kids.
Yeah, I've encountered this as well. I guess they don't want to acknowledge that they're the ones with baggage based on choices they've made in life. There are plenty of single women out there with kids who would not be the least bit phased by the fact that a man has children. And there are even single women without kids who wouldn't give pause. I just don't happen to be one of them.
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Too Busy to Date?
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5/10/2009 4:47:38 PM
All of the men that I've encountered lately are "too busy" to date. They act interested, but can't seem to break away from work long enough to actually go out.
Probably not what you want to hear, but if they wanted to they'd find the time. "Too busy" is your notice to keep it moving.
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Why won't Women Date Nice Romantic Overweight Gentlemen
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5/10/2009 4:45:37 PM
Why won't Women Date Nice Romantic Overweight Gentlemen
For the same reason that some men won't date a nice romantic overweight woman.
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Do you feel it's harder to find men/women you consider cool now?
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1/18/2009 9:40:48 AM
Do you find it harder to find males/females that you consider your brand of "cool" now that your 30s are pretty well cemented in? I don't even mean partying or going out or drinking like crazy or anything so silly and stupid like that... just what you see as cool. As your own sense of hip.
People are starting to seem a bit more generic, I'll say that.
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Have you ever walked out in the middle of a date or do you just grin and bare it
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1/18/2009 9:32:08 AM
So second date we decided to meet at the bar. First hour was okay , then he started telling me to down my drinks. I had 7 drinks in less then 2 hrs...and started getting the feeling he wanted to get me drunk so he can have his way with me. So I said I was going to the washroom and left throught the back door....did I do the right thing or was I just a ****?
Nevermind whether it was polite, it was dangerous. How did you manage to get home after you left?
ejesq
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High maintenance definitions
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1/18/2009 9:24:43 AM
I have to point out that men can be high-maintenance as well.
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We're all gonna be OKAY!!! Perhaps...
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1/18/2009 9:06:23 AM
Generally, however... which thought do you live with? "It's all gonna be okay" or "They're all a buncha idiots and I'm gonna die alone and pissed off." If you tend to arm wrestle with each, which one usually wins over? Pessimist, optimist, six of one half dozen on another (RIP Patrick McGoohan...), what mindset helps you get by?
When it gets that serious, it's time to get some perspective. A lot of this hysteria about dying alone and pissed off is a purely social construct. Marriage is no guarantee that this won't happen. Nor, incidentally, does marriage solve financial or other problems. And it can very possibly end up putting you in a worse situation than you had when you are single. You have to actively enjoy the life that you were given, instead of forever bemoaning the fantasy of the life that you thought you should have been given.
As a woman, I've encountered some simple-minded folks who conclude that the fact that I am single is due in large part to the fact that I "wasted" my twenties on getting an education and working on a career. I have to point out to them that there are a LOT of women with neither the education nor the career who are single as well. The difference is that I am actively pursuing what I want out of life, instead of putting everything on hold while waiting for someone to come along so that my life can 'begin.'
We've all got only so much time on this earth; either get busy living or get busy dying.
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Not being what you thought
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1/4/2009 8:52:07 AM
^^^ Unfortunately, there is no such thing as 'normal' when dealing with dating. It's a complete grab bag. The only barometer is 'healthy v. unheatlhy.'
ejesq
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You're too posh for me!!!
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1/4/2009 8:08:58 AM
And yes, SOME men would be uncomfortable with a younger woman who's rich.
John McCain had no such qualms......
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Not being what you thought
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1/4/2009 8:04:13 AM
LOL! HE moved her in with HIM after three weeks, and she’s the crazy one?!
ejesq
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men outnumber women on dating sites Fact? or Myth?
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1/4/2009 7:59:28 AM
I think that 20:1 ratio represents the number of fat, bald, short, old, and broke men who want thin, long haired, tall, young, and rich women. Otherwise, I think it is an even number of men to women.
You forgot about all the married men!
ejesq
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Racism in Dating
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1/4/2009 7:58:07 AM
^^^ forwarding the racist e-mails to the administrator is a far more effective method of dealing with it.
ejesq
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Does writing first actually lower your value to the opposite sex?
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1/3/2009 7:30:39 PM
Lord only knows. I'm the type of person that if I want to speak with you, either online or in person, I will approach and say hello. I hate drama and pretense and frankly can't stomach wasting time waiting to be 'discovered.' I've been told that men like to be the one to make the first move, but I feel that men should value my time and be somewhat concerned that I might meet someone else if they drag their feet.
I always get on my friend's nerves because they'll want to hang out at parties or other events for five and six hours trying to meet someone. And it's not that there are new people arriving... it's that they're waiting for whomever to finally make a move and say hello. I'll be ready to leave after two hours, unless I'm genuinely having a great time. I figure if it takes someone more than two hours to come up and say hello, they're not all that interested.
I also suspect that looking like I have somewhere else to be makes me seem more interesting. If there was someone who DID in fact drag their feet and did not make a move before my exit, they might make a point of meeting me at the next event. Whereas standing around for 5 and 6 hours looks a bit desperate.
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