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Joined: 5/30/2007

Msg: 372 (view)

When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 6/23/2009 6:06:14 PM
and by the way, i dont drink, hence i would always be in trouble, (if i took women home from bars) as most women (and men) are legally intoxicated when in the bar.. 1 drink per hour? right... not likely, even "social drinkers" cannot do that it gets warm.... better to a) not drink, b) dont pick up chicks in bars, c) dont pick up losers that need alcohol to have fun. what if a women you know tells you - "i enjoy sex more when i am drunk" - is that not rape bait or entrapment... (besides bein an emotional cripple - if she can only get "really horny" with me when she is drunk - why is she with me - and vice versa) oops, perhaps that is tmi ... :-) yes, concur, impaired people are not good mates (take that in every form/context)

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Msg: 371 (view)

When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 6/23/2009 5:56:11 PM
so, do we need to carry breathalyzers and condoms? lets see, did the cops get to charge her with public intoxication or drunk driving was she proclaimed that she was a) to drunk to consent b) too stupid to keep herself out of that situation? if a drunk man gets a woman pregnant, is he exempt from child support?

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When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 5/2/2009 8:50:57 AM
i will avoid from answering - but adding fuel to this might be fun ... what if she gets pregnant to the later "unconsented act" - if the man is also drunk can he claim that he did consent to the child and thereby avoid culpability for the support of the child (woman)? they are in fact the same. wether it is a drunk man or a drunk woman - being responsible for getting drunk is the question at hand. as, in the situation where you are driving without a valid license - you are then AT FAULT for any incident that occurs - if rear-ended while stopped. it is your own fault for being in a postion whereby you are vulnerable and have no legal right to be (it is also illegal to be intoxicated in public). except in cases of forcible or drugged rape, this is similar basis.

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Guys...too long??? Posted: 5/2/2009 3:13:53 AM
the evolution of one's profile is part of the "journey" of adapting the private view, including the past, etc into a public forum... of course, profiles (including mine perhaps) that have too much "evidence" of baggage are taken to be negative - and the person might be passed by - but over time, with reading and consideration the profile poster will likely adapt their profile... the completely open profiles are either - player types (man or woman) who will adapt their beliefs to fit their interest at the time. it takes a little while to learn how to express "essence" rather than filter i think - not just here - but in life... not all people are working with the same communications level (at work, home, etc)... what ever is in the profile is a reflection - that is true. the "filters" or "must-not" - or even the "must-haves" can be "scary" as they are the sometimes too rigid or too obvously based on recent "pain"... nobody wants to join a pain-party - except a user/predator.

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How open-minded are you? Posted: 5/2/2009 3:00:06 AM
oh darn - i only got 54% open-minded. guess i better go to therapy to learn how to think less strongly about my beliefs. sorry, not gonna happen. thats why there will be future generations to deal with the crap and corruption of our generations... as it always was and always will be.. kids need parents - they will get their own friends. of course i cannot "check the box" for 18/45 yr old relationships or 2 men kissing - without any context... i would be major bummed if my 18 year old son did either of those things, possible exception being if i knew of the 45 yr old woman to ensure she was not a emotional train wreck. if she was actually not preying on his 18 yr old complete openness and longing for approval, etc. - at 25, perhaps he is able to "defend" himself emotionally. not all "older women" are sick, just most (and yes, the same applies to men). okay - did i get way to verbose and defensive ? perhaps i am the emotional trainwreck? thats the beauty of individual observation and judgement (perception). hopefully we all have some level of "core beliefs" that guide us. but i think it is becoming more popular to be completely apathetic - which is the greatest "sin" of all - lack of any energy towards the progress/health/well-being of the community... pure individualism and selfishness... if you hate "christianity" then go check with confuscious, or any other eastern mental/emotional training/guidance - they are consistent in the requirement for people to have a balance of judgement and action to maintain "humanity".

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Question for anyone presently practicing celibacy... Posted: 4/25/2009 9:33:26 AM
i was celibate/chaste for over 2 years - it was when i was 22, until 24. while it did help me become free of the need to pursue SEX instead of relationships, it also wasted a couple of good years... in the end, there is certainly good reason to choose a chaste life style for a time. it does not work to give up sex for 2 weeks - like cigarettes, that is the hardest time. it certainly cannot hurt to give up sex for a while - if you are thinking you need to do that - it is probably true. like exercizing, it is the effect of the effort and the realization of what is really important. i was also chaste for several years in a bad marriage - that was again a spiritual exercise - and more wasted time... in other words i missed several years of "developing my sexuality" - but - when i die i dont think i will have regrets about not having wilder or more sex. there are many things more important than sex... in todays world of incredibly inane and useless endeavors - triple cafe, non-fat, double hot, extra sugar latte - people are really hung up on some silly things. good sex is great - but it will always evolve in a relationship. bad sex is a good sign of a bad relationship - both partners are not being honest about what they want - if they are honest and genuine - good sex will develop. when you meet a woman that you love and she really loves you - you will have great sex - but it cannot be measured outside of the specific experience. i usually under perform the first night - there is no real trust and no basis for comfort - it is pure physical expression - there is nothing wrong with that, it is a natural part of human relationships - but for me, good sex comes with time. Practice (with the one partner) makes perfect - in my case... i dont generally "f***" - i am a naive little sheltered boy that "makes love" - even when it is really hot ... maybe that makes sense to anyone - maybe not.

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Msg: 69 (view)

Single and Pregnant Posted: 4/13/2008 10:34:31 AM
I question the following: 1. you will never regret having the child: hopefully that is true, once you decide to do it, you will never need to be vindictive (which is indicative of resentment), or modify your values in terms of how naive a child be allowed to be based on the child's situation. (prejudicing a son or daughter to be completely non-trusting is not fair to the child) 2. if the ex was not required to pay a dime, would you still have and keep the child instead of putting him/her up for adoption. Once you are pregnant, the choice to allow the child to be adopted or the female right for abortion is well outside the father's rights. (the father being able to preclude adoption is not the same as having the right to initiate an adoption) 3. the idea that a man is going to fall in love with you because of baby - this is insane. Of course, in my life i have extremely rate/bizarre ideals that might lead one to this conclusion - but that is not likely to happen. I did "love the mother" for the child's sake but that (and the abuse in return) can only swallowed so long. If either 1 or 2 is false for you personally within the privacy of your own thoughts, then i have to question your decision to have and keep the child. This is not to say that you are a bad person, or weak, it takes strength to know yourself and live accordingly. please - if any of you take this as an attack on a person, womanhood, manhood, etc, re-read until you have settle down enough to read it as i intended - there is no malice, no judgement, no attack in the above. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

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Creepy POF Meetup Advice Plz Posted: 4/7/2008 4:15:28 PM
hmmm - lets think about this "AppearsInnocent" - and the implication is, undoubtedly, questionable "morality" or lack of innocence. Is that a defining chararteristic you want folks to be looking for? (i cannot really speak too much as my profile is named "blueiz" - oops - pretty shallow eh. I understand the challenge of "cool names")

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Yes -- I, too, am asking for feedback on my profile please:) Posted: 4/7/2008 3:39:10 PM
Hi - little or LOTS of help on my profile...

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Msg: 67 (view)

Red flag statements or questions Posted: 4/7/2008 3:15:51 PM
I would most likely trust the women's views on the question (already posted...). however, she asked you a meaningless question "nice" is totally relative (ie meaningless word) - and therefore, i agree if she was gold digging she is not real bright. She did not ask about the size, style, etc. Most anyone would reply with a "yes" type of answer to that question - she might have been trying to measure your defensiveness in that area...DO you have a wife is not always an effective question apparently... You know the answer to the question, you know the context and the other types of questions - if she was using very relative/valuation questions all night, then this was just one...did she ask about your last vacation? your next vacation? your job? if this was the only question that could begin to query your financial status, she is not dangerous... (IMO)

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What is a Scene Girl? Posted: 2/14/2008 10:13:13 AM
does it really matter? the fact that a parent is even concerned with the ridiculous phrases and titles only gives it more power. just as the boys that are "reinventing" themselves to be completely in uniform while not conforming - this is significantly more (commercially) advanced of juvenile separation from parents - and amazingly, yes there are more and more 20 and 30 somethings that are still not quite over puberty. so they continue with completely going-nowhere behavior, and then are stunned that the outcome is so nothing. that is, ever a moment of introspection occurs before the next complete "makeover" directed by 100 forms of dogmatic media. we are so diverse and tolerant now, that we freely choose to be complete and utter morons, but at least we "open minded" and completely accept any hair brained notion spewed out on "E-tv" or "M-tv" or some 26 year old dj/talk show host... whoever invented the idea of 4th grade boys wearing deoderant or colgne (Axe) is genius along the same lines as Bill Gates and the lipstick industry for girls. I suppose "ERA" was successful - women can be reduced to "working" in the office, and boys can be reduced to being marketing manequins, equally with their age appropriate counterparts.

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