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Thread: Define 'PLAYER' ...
beachdancer
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Define 'PLAYER' ...
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11/25/2009 6:25:41 AM
I agree there are many levels of player,onn both sides of the definition, player and playee. I think a true player like to mess with someones heart. Those that date multiple people aren't necessarily players. They might be indicisive or have commitment issues but don't mean to hurt anyone. Many think they are players. Some people just like to mess with people's heads. So they are players, in their way. I think the true player needs to have your heart involved to satisfy whatever his or her needs are. Check out threads about narcissists. Players extrodanaire
beachdancer
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Caution to the ladies in St.L.
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11/25/2009 6:16:56 AM
It is my experience that those who could be considered even a bit pesky, get off to annoying people. I don't report much of anything and have never used the block button. I guess I go by what my mom said about bullies, ignore them, they will get bored and move on. That works for me. One of my biggest life lessons is: The only person I can control is myself. Attention seeking narcissistic types like any attention. So my saying is, this is an adult site, you are an adult, act like one and leave the babies to play with one another. The op says she is new to this, welcome to the dating world. My friend Kelly says, "We are single at this age for a reason." For some, the reason is, they have anger issues. Me, I am here to have fun and maybe comfort someone who is struggling. If you start dialogs with and about some people, it is "game on!" They won't relent until they have "won." Let those who enjoy the "game" tangle with them. Get a bag of popcorn and watch the action on the forums.
beachdancer
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Come Find the Fish of your Dreams on Nov. 21 at theh Crowley Moose Lodge,
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10/26/2009 8:58:36 AM
And Clayton is FRESH, watch out ladies!
beachdancer
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Come Find the Fish of your Dreams on Nov. 21 at theh Crowley Moose Lodge,
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10/15/2009 4:45:37 AM
Yippee Grandbaby. I am beginning to think my children are not going to reproduce.
beachdancer
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Come Find the Fish of your Dreams on Nov. 21 at theh Crowley Moose Lodge,
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10/13/2009 9:25:14 PM
Well I will give it a go. Sandee, if you do come on down, let me know, you can bunk with me.
beachdancer
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I Want Someone Like ME- is it too much to ask?
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10/13/2009 9:09:14 PM
^ Well said, a bit nomadic.
beachdancer
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SPAM got me Contact with XN!
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10/13/2009 8:57:27 PM
ForumsGee, now we have addressed this before. I found it helps to sit and remember the bad times. Harbor those memories if you have to, forget the good ones. REMEMBER, it is not HIM you miss, it is the feeling of being loved. DO NOT go back, I am speaking from experience, it will be worse than the first time. I saw the ex last night, I can finally be in the same room with him without the shakes, it has taken six months. Still, I keep a friend with me when I go anywhere he may show up, to save me from myself. I live in a very small community, fortunately, everybody knows how he is and supports me. I will be back to living within two blocks of him next month. I wasted two years (off and on) with this idiot. Now I am ready for a relationship with someone... someone other than him. Any relationship the NPD is impossible. Think about it. Does he have any real freinds? I always wanted it to end well, it ended worse and worse each time. It is the first time in my 53 years that a relationship ended like that. I don't even speak to him, I just treat him as a stranger. He spoke to me last night, but that is because he was trying to impress the musician I was talking to. He doesn't speak well of anyone behind their back. I can just imagine what he says about me. Really, don't let him suck you in. Facebook is my new addiction, lol. Maybe we should get t-shirts that say "no narcissists."
I still laugh at the original poster's original post "...I was just in Hell wondering what the hell was wrong with the boy." She really said it best!
beachdancer
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Bipolar? Is this the new disease?
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10/2/2009 6:22:38 AM
Just for the record, the OP found that bipolar was not the guy's problem, it was something else. It does seem that any erratic behavior gets labeled as "bipolar." Sometimes I wonder if it isn't a "whoever smelt it dealt it" situation. You drive someone crazy with your behavior, then blame it on them.
beachdancer
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Anyone Ever Dated A TRUE Narcissist?
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9/29/2009 7:31:56 AM
I suppose we often "excuse" these peoples behaviors by giving them labels. I do not, but social norms often do, and we are supposed to feel sympathy while they do their deeds.
I have said it before, sympathy will get you into trouble with these people. Furthermore, they don't want sympathy really, they want unconditional adoration. And there isn't enought adoration in the world for them. Their insecurity is a bottomless pit. Sympathy will cause you to fall into it.
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/26/2009 2:48:04 PM
Time to party! See y'all tonight!
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/25/2009 1:13:53 PM
Tomorrow!! Tomorrow! I love you tomorrow!
Party time!!!
beachdancer
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Anyone Ever Dated A TRUE Narcissist?
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9/25/2009 6:36:57 AM
Alright, so we're dealing with a heavy hitter of a topic. So its only fitting that my reply will be a bit...serious, and uncomfortable. But I think NPD is simply a nicer way of saying "sociopath". To say that a sociopath has a mental/personality disorder is to invalidate the experience with a sociopath, and only serves to give them an "excuse" for there behavior. Anyone else agree here?
Charity
I sure am tired of this attitude. I address it from two perspectives. The NPD doesn't agree with the diagnosis, therefore does not use it as an excuse for his behavior. He gives no reasons or excuses, he is perfect, ask him, he will tell you. Disorders are real, not always fixable, but real reasons for sociopaths behavior. An excuse, no. Invalidation? I don't know, the experiences I have had and read about on this forum and other places, the "diagnosis" seems to help the victims get out of the situation. They realize the problem is not them, for one and not fixable, two. Therefore they can leave the sociopath without the guilt he/she has put on them. I am not a professional, this is just my opinion based on my own experience.
Many say that folks use a mental/personality disorder to excuse behavior. Whether that is true or not, I don't know. To give a correlation, does a diabetic use their condition to excuse their behavior, does a cripple do the same. The answer is yes and no, some do, some don't. The diabetic can take insulin, regulate diet and live a fairly normal life. The cripple can use aids to get around, concentrate on what they CAN do and live a fairly normal life. The person with a mental (which is physiological) disorder can seek help to live a fairly normal life. Many that are truly trying still have bad days, who can blame them for feeling sorry for themselves every once in a while. I have seen all three above examples also use their conditions to manipulate, guilt trip, abuse the ones to love them and try to help. The types who don't take personal responsibility take whatever the situation is and use it to excuse their behavior. I don't feel sorry for them, they disgust me. Whenever I act like that I disgust myself.
beachdancer
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I Want Someone Like ME- is it too much to ask?
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9/24/2009 1:58:51 AM
I have to admit, I have made disparaging comments about the original post. Now, I find myslef wondering the same thing. Why can't I find someone sorta like me? Now my list may not be the same as his list or yours, I am finding that someone with similar interests, values, personality traits (the good ones, that is
) and vision of the future is like looking for a lost key dropped from a 100 foot tower in a refinery (we didn't find the key.) The op does make a point, maybe not the way you or I would make it, but to be fair (sometimes I hate that fair bone) he does raise a valid, if unanswerable question. The evidence in my life suggests it is too much to ask.
beachdancer
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Let me give you the tour...
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9/24/2009 12:44:47 AM
I haven't read all the posts, I have to put a different twist on this than most poster's did. The movie that comes to my mind is "As Good As it Gets" with Helen Hunt and Jack Nickolson. (I am not sure I have the title exactly right.) Many people have disabilities, it doesn't make them anal, ***holes or bad people. OCD is a disability, he really can't help it on his own. Would you ditch him if he had been born with one leg shorter than the other? If he was a diabetic? If he had Touret's syndrome? If he had a congenital heart problem? If his skin was a different color? Now mind you, I am not trying to make you feel guilty. I would not date people with some of these conditions, just as some won't date me with health problems I may have. Just make your decision based on fact, rather than based on feeling that he was rude. I dated someone with a condition that he can't help, I gave it the college try, found I could not live with it. I do sleep with the knowledge I gave it my best shot, so I don't have to wonder what might have been.
beachdancer
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Anyone Ever Dated A TRUE Narcissist?
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9/24/2009 12:04:11 AM
So do you who have dated, gotten involved with or married a narcissist find yourselves a little paranoid when you meet someone with ANY self centered behavior? I recently talked to someone who almost gives me an anxiety attack! I won't be going out with him, for sure. He steps over me in converstion and when I mentioned the death of a very dear friend, he interrupted with a joke. Visions of the last fiasco went through my head.
beachdancer
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Rejection-men have been dealing with this a long time.
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9/23/2009 11:41:53 PM
How have you guys dealt with all the rejection?
I'm not sure how others deal with it but it bothers me; I won't lie about it. I'm someone well aware of my personal inadequacies and shortcomings, so a lack of interest on the part of someone I'm interested in... Phew, just nails all those insecurities home. But I take everything personally, I'm a natural sensitive and always have been. Fortunately and delightfully though, I'm finding that as I get older, rejection as well as other areas of life, are in fact becoming easier to accept. I don't expect it to ever be just a breeze where things roll off me like rain, but still... a little easier.
whatacrazyplace
Exactly what I was trying to address in this thread. I especially like your last sentence. I guess, in a way, I don't want it to become just a breeze, where things just roll off me like rain. It seems to me that people like that don't really care about anything or live in denial. As long as it hurts me, I remember it hurts you too. Does that make sense? As an illustration, a went on a few dates with a fellow and he kinda fell for me, I simply did not feel the same toward him. However, I could deal compassionately with him because I have had the same thing happen to me.
What is that saying? Something along the line of , be kind, you don't know what battle someone is fighting.
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/21/2009 2:29:45 PM
^Good advice Rockdrummer!
I took a friend to an auction once, she kept asking, "What do you think that will sell for?" I replied, "It depends on who's there and who wants it."
Parties are sorta that way, you won't know what you are missing unless you attend!!!
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/20/2009 12:44:44 PM
^ Well I know what goosey is.
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/18/2009 5:29:59 PM
We have 11 men and 15 women signed up! Looks like the guys will have choices! You know how us women are, we hardly go to the bathroom alone, so you know we will bring the girlfriends to a party!
Ah, but guys don't like paperwork, so don't be surprised if many show up that didn't sign up!
beachdancer
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5th Houston POF Hot 'n Sweaty Party - Friday,Sept. 18th, EJ's Sportsbar
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9/18/2009 3:57:57 PM
I am off work after all, see ya'll there.
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/18/2009 3:00:11 PM
Bring lots of friends! I sent out the mass email, my box was full of replies! So, even if some don't sign up, we should have a great PAR TAY!
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/15/2009 4:30:49 AM
^ Frogish? What does that mean? Do you mean Froggy? Watch out girls!!
beachdancer
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The “^v game”, Texas style (again)
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9/5/2009 10:01:01 PM
^ Collects left shoes. That is why I can't find mine.
< Looks funny in mismatched right shoes.
V Is wondering what is left.
beachdancer
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5th Houston POF Hot 'n Sweaty Party - Friday,Sept. 18th, EJ's Sportsbar
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9/5/2009 9:58:05 PM
I regret I will not be able to attend. I work nights and will be working that weekend. Everybody have a great time! Get safely home. I will be off the weekend of the 26th for the Cruise into Fall party at Cruiser's. I hope to see some of you there.
beachdancer
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The “^v game”, Texas style (again)
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9/3/2009 11:00:00 AM
^ forgot the < probably has to look at ID in the morning to remember name.
< Talks to all kinds of inanimate objects.
v Nearly has heart failure when the inanimate objects talk back.
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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9/3/2009 10:55:41 AM
Clayton, if you are reserving two ladies, you had better get some more to sign up or all us ladies will be able to reserve two gentlemen.
There is another Hot and Sweaty party on the 18th in Webster. They already have matched us on sign ups. How 'bout cha Galveston County?
Let's see:
You don't have to be a biker, have a motorcycle or ride one to go to Cruiser's.
It is out in the country, sorta, but still easy to get to.
The band will be outside, if the weather is nice (and it is much cooler already!) but there is inside too!
We could put together a quick pool tournament, if there is any interest, guess I should get my cue fixed and practice.
I thought about BBQ but POF says we can't charge or make money and Galveston County has all kinds of other rules. I could get a certain single fellow to cater, if anyone wants BBQ. He is a great cook and nice guy. He is not on here ladies, but will be there! Whether he cooks or not.
beachdancer
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My Joke Thread.
Posted:
8/31/2009 11:01:40 AM
When you're from the country you look at things a little
different..........
A Montana rancher got in his pickup and drove to a neighboring
ranch and knocked at the door. A young boy, about 9, opened the
door.
'Is yer Dad home?' the rancher asked.
'No sir, he ain't,' the boy replied. 'He went into town.'
'Well,' said the rancher, 'Is yer Mother here?'
'No, sir, she ain't here neither. She went into town with
Dad.'
'How about your brother, Howard? Is he here?'
No sir, 'He went with Mom and Dad.'
The rancher stood there for a few minutes, shifting from
one foot to the other and mumbling to himself.
'Is there anything I can do fer ya?' the boy asked politely
'I know where all the tools are, if you want to borry one. Or
maybe I could take a message fer Dad.'
'Well,' said the rancher uncomfortably, 'I really wanted to
talk to yer Dad. It's about your brother Howard getting my
daughter, Pearly Mae, pregnant.'
The boy considered for a moment. 'You would have to talk to
Pa about that', he finally conceded. 'If it helps you any, I
know that Pa charges $500 for the bull and $50 for the hog,
but I really don't know how much he gets fer Howard.'
beachdancer
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When Insults Had Class
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8/31/2009 10:37:29 AM
A member of Parliament to Disraeli: 'Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease.' 'That depends, Sir,' said Disraeli, 'whether I embrace your policies or your mistress.'
'He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary.' - William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway).
'Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?' - Ernest Hemingway (about William Faulkner)
'Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time reading it.' - Moses Hadas
'There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure.' Jack E. Leonard
'They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge.' - Thomas Brackett Reed
'In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.' - Charles, Count Talleyrand
One of mine: The great and powerful (insert name) speaks! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
(not entirely original, but gets great laughs from the people who know the person I say it about.)
beachdancer
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Bipolar? Is this the new disease?
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8/29/2009 10:15:14 PM
Apperntly he has been diaganosed with rapid cycle bipolar, is there any good advice someone can give me, or an opinion, I am lost and fear a great deal for my girls mental and physical well being.
t/tmatrix
I do have advice. Google the topic. Get educated. Educate the girls as much as possible. Make sure their mother is educated. Bipolar has many types and many levels. I would have emailed this and more, but you are not accepting emails from someone my age.
beachdancer
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Decoding the Female Language
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8/29/2009 10:07:14 AM
You mean this 24 pages was all about getting lucky? Dammit, and I thought I was communicating!
I missed all the signals.
beachdancer
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Decoding the Female Language
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8/29/2009 3:45:30 AM
Wow, the battle of the sexes gets ugly. It is a shame how we, people, let our pain strike out in anger. I am reminded by what some preachers have said, "Only we shoot our wounded."
The topic "Decoding the Female Language" is just as valid as a topic that might be titled "Decoding the Male Language." The fact is, sometimes I just have a hard time decoding any language, including my own. A communications teacher once said, "All communication is manipulation." I felt quite defensive about that. After getting over myself, I realized there was a lot of truth in the statement. We want something when we communicate. Sometimes, I think, we are not always sure just what we want. Attention? Understanding? Affirmation? To have our own way? To mess with someone's mind? To express anger? To help or hurt? To make someone think just like me? So true communication, it seems, would need to start with self, whether you are male or female. What is that old quote? Shakespeare? To thine own self be true. I toss out there, if we are honest and straightforward with ourselves, (and who can honestly say they have never lied to their own self) then we can communicate reasonably with each other. I have been hurt by and misunderstood by many people of both sexes. The ONLY person I have found I can change is myself. If someone misunderstands me, I try to restate, if Iknow about it. Communication requires feedback, whether verbal or non verbal. So, if you are offended, you could say, hey, I think you just called me an a$$hole. I could then say, either, yep, you got it or say, absolutely not and restate, in different words whatever I meant for you to hear. Much of the time, we misunderstand because of noise, the noise in our head of past experiences such as: "He sounds just like my dad telling me I will never amount to anything."
Lets say I am putting on lipstick. Am I talking to someone, rooting around in my purse and applying it? Or am I holding the lipstick until I lock eyes with you and slowly applying it, keeping eye contact? Surely anyone watching would be able to ascertain the difference. Now if I lock eyes with you begin slowly applying and you look away, surely I can figure, hey he ain't interested. Communication, while not rocket science, is something that can be learned. I have learned something very interesting in reading this thread: Men, generally, don't give as much feedback as women. It does not mean they are not listening. Now I don't take it personally anymore or keep trying to make a point that the guy probably got the first time I said it. The guy could learn, if I don't give her some feedback she thinks I didn't hear her. So, if I say the place we are looking for is on the left, and he continues in the right lane, I am thankful there is another guy in the car to decide whether the driver heard me or not.
(that was an attempt at comic relief, though a true story.)
Mind you, I have made just a few points from an hour and a half lecture that I heard 16 years ago. I don't claim to know it all. I mess up. Sometimes I realize it and make amends and sometimes I go blythely on my way, ignorant of the fact I just offended someone.
We can use this topic to beat each other over the head or we can learn better communication from one another. I don't like beating or being beaten.
beachdancer
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are guys scared off by confident women who make the first move?
Posted:
8/27/2009 8:51:09 AM
That being said, I'm very far from being an aggressive person, but just because I tend to be shy and quiet doesn't mean that I have to be passive when it comes to finding a man. And once I've made a move, I let him reciprocate; I don't drag him off by the hair. If he wants me to do all of the work, I move on.
Well said, brightestblue! I don't want to do all the work either, no matter who initiates the first move, although especially if he made the initial move.
beachdancer
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Women's Favorite/Least Favorite Conversation Topics
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8/26/2009 3:07:44 PM
Do Men have to initiate everything with Women? Geeze, do Women ever take charge and initiate things?
Drusurfer06
There are threads about that very topic and question. The topic here is converstion topics, not who initiates the topic.
The following asks if men like women to initiate:
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts12941679.aspx
Other titles are: Rejection, men have been dealing with this a long time.
Decoding Women's Language
You posted three times on the question, go check the other threads.
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On Topic: On my email opening page:
Word of the Day, Lead Photo, BBC News: Science and Environment, Science News from AFP, National Institute of Health News Releases, Science News from Space, Joy's Healty Bite, Top Stories from AP, Astros Schedule, Weather, maps, Movie showtimes.
Yes women do talk about science. Biology is one of the sciences.
Generalizations just are silly, as my daughter would say. )You want some in the trences battle of the sexes go visit the decoding womens language thread.) Men and women have all different favorite and least favorite topics. Maybe that would be a good opening line in, say, a second email. "What are some of your favorite topics of conversation?"
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
Posted:
8/26/2009 2:41:19 PM
^You little devil! Don't listen to him ladies! There is safety in numbers. Or is it... the men won't be safe if we women are there in numbers!
I think there is a dart board. Lately the band has been inside and I think the dart board is right by the dance floor. The band will be outside if the weather is nice, so dart away!
The Band is a 70's - 80's kinda band, I have heard them, they play a great variety as well as some of their original songs.
One of the factors in choosing Cruiser's is because it is not a full liquor bar. I figure that way, those who do not drink will be more comfortable.
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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8/25/2009 3:43:29 PM
Yippee! I won't be the only female there!! Sign up ladies! Any suggestions and or ideas, feel free to suggest! This is my first try at being a POF hostess! Maybe I can talk Mike into mulled wine or something, though I don't anticipate cold weather, I might save that for a Win at Winter party! I still need a pool tournament organizer.
beachdancer
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
Posted:
8/24/2009 3:42:22 PM
Well I talked with Mike, the owner of Cruisers, and the little pink car will be there! So you too can drive and have your picture taken in the pink car! Come one, come all!
beachdancer
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For a Laugh- What movie would you base your life on as of now?
Posted:
8/23/2009 12:55:57 AM
ok, I was too serious the first time. Conspiracy Threory. I am trying to find where I can hear the song.
beachdancer
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For a Laugh- What movie would you base your life on as of now?
Posted:
8/21/2009 10:04:21 AM
Well, I haven't seen it but I would have to go with: He's just not that in to you.
Back to the drawing board.
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Why are woman so sensitive to rejecting their overture?
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8/21/2009 1:05:06 AM
I solved the problem by posting in my profile reasons I might read and delete. I also gave whomever the option of read/delete if they are not interested. I explained that read/delete was ok rather than thinking of something polite to say. (Some of the "polite" response stung more than just not answering.) No response equals not interested just the same as short answers or painful politeness in person equals not interested. Really, life does not HAVE to be difficult. Like I said when I was looking for a house, "I only need one." In looking for a mate, I only want one so and obviously I want that one to want me also. So what is the big deal? Rejection does sting, put some ointment on it and move on.
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Why are woman so sensitive to rejecting their overture?
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8/20/2009 7:56:43 PM
The thread question: Asking why people do things is often pointless. I give one explanation, ok two. Number 1 reason could be we are not conditioned to handle the rejection. In the culture we live in, traditionally the male is the initiator. Women are the ones who say yes or no. We aren't used to hearing no, as it were. (I addressed this from another angle on a thread commisserating with men on handling the rejection we women dish out.) Our fuzzy feelings get hurt and because of reason #2 we lash out. Reason number 2, I would have to say is plain ole immaturity. We need to put on our big girl panties and deal with the fact someone doesn't find us as fascinating as we would like him to.
The second question about favorites. I had to look. I have 64 favorites. (That is I am on their favorites list. I would venture to say, more than half are women. A small percentage of them live somewhere nearby. Several have never contacted me. A couple are female freinds from work who sometimes email through this site. Most people who have a huge favorite list probably play on the forums. I don't remove anybody from the list because of my sensitivity to rejection. If they don't contact me, I don't wonder about it. I suppose if they want me to know why they chose me, they would tell me. This is a social network. Not only are we hoping to find true love, we are giving each other support on the journey. Anyone who would come to some judgemental conclusion based on how many people chose to put me on their favorites list, probably would find some other issue to judge me for if they met me. I don't worry about it.
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what do you miss?
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8/20/2009 1:39:40 PM
After two long term relationships, obviously neither of them exactly worked, my list includes things I would have missed, had I had them.
That safe feeling when in his arms.
Knowing I can make plans for the weekend and not be alone.
Having someone who really knows me and likes me anyway. (not sure I ever had it to miss.)
I can't figure out how to say this so it will be long:
Sometimes noises in the night scare me. I like someone else to be in the house with me so the noises could be them, therefore not scary. A cat works, but ain't as fullfilling.
(Note to self: Get a cat.) Ok, so a little PTSS (buy sniper rifle? no wait, build commune with thick walls and razor wire)
The times we divide and conquer, like he parks the car while I get the tickets.
The contentment of just having him in the house.
In-love sex. ::sighs wistfully::
Him saying, "You aren't going out in that, are you." or tucking my tag back in my shirt.
The love behind a kiss on the cheek while I am sleeping.
His hands on the steering wheel. And holding my hand.
Talking on long trips.
The touch.
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Decoding the Female Language
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8/20/2009 12:54:48 PM
Oh for the love of God!! Men and Women are both Human .. beyond that - yup we are 'different' .. some more obviously so than others! .. and to that I say: "Vive la difference!" ..
A.S.is-you never disappoint me. I am still laughing
::wiping eyes, catching my breath, holding my sides::
I wish I could eat popcorn, this is better than the movies! ::breathe pat breathe::
Zangie-don't let mean people get to you-believe me I am very amused
RockMan-as ever, my hero, if only I was a cougar
Levi501s- we aren't talkin' about you darlin'! Your sister may have slapped you, I have had friends slap me, "He was mackin' on you!" (She is in her thirties, I had to ask her what mackin' meant.)
ladyC4- my eyes are watering-thanks for the laughs!!!!!
I still haven't caught up - page 15 next. ::thinks of going to store for fake popcorn::
Each of us, regardless of gender, is a invidual as snowflakes (and yes some of are flakes-I'll own it.) Savona might like the alpha male, while he might kinda scare me. I might find someone a little slow, like Levi, endearing. LadyC4-I can't even begin to guess! I may need her to mentor me!
Anyone who says they are not a hypocrit is lying to themselves. We all are at one time or another. Because we are human. So if you are trying to insult by the truth----I don't even know what to say.
Tamatoe, tamahtoe ....
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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8/19/2009 1:54:31 PM
Well the blonde finally carefully read all the rules and directions on how to post this party! With the help of Sandee~ we have it ready to go! Maps and such to follow soon!
Cruiser's is kinda out in the country, they have a new outdoor stage and deck. They plan to have the place open to the air, the weather should permit! (No hurricanes allowed!) Those that ride motorcycles have your own parking area. Snit's Dog and Pony Show is a great band, with a good variety of music! I have seen them often. I am thinking of a pool tournament? There are two tables, we could pull it off if we do it early. Anybody good at organizing that sort of thing?
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Decoding the Female Language
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8/19/2009 11:39:36 AM
chameleonf: Ever so true, I deserve that, we all make foolish mistakes at some time or another. He was a bottomless pit of insecurity. See earlier post of mine stating: The double standard is alive and well!
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Decoding the Female Language
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8/19/2009 11:31:00 AM
Ah, true rent. And my point. But he also did not accept anymore communication after his interpretation of my looking over my shoulder to see who was behind me. He did pout and "run away," The end result is the same. When he did communicate again, it was as if nothing happened and told me he missed me, loved me, blah blah.
My secondary point, though, is I think both of these people have a major unreasonable jealousy problem. Third point: Since I was supposed to spell it out to the foreigners
I didn't allow him to treat me like that.
Cliff notes:
1) Yep you are right-the woman sulked, ruined the evening, finally told why.
The man exploded, ruined the evening, and pouted for months
Both, over nothing.
2) Both were unreasonable.
3) The man continued the relationship. The woman, me, ended it (I walked home) and the man wanted to pick up the relationship.
Possible conclusion: Men put up with a lot of crap from us women for _____?
I am joking on the possible conclusion.
We can be clear, see?
Actually, because my fair bone screams at me, I know we are wired differently. My only husband and I read that Mars/Venus book. We found I communicated more like Mars and he, more like Venus. I was a houseparent (that was the title-sorta like foster parents) for a childrens home for teenaged girls. Those who had houseparented both girls and boys unamimously said, boys were easier. The girls sulked, held grudges and were more manipulative than the boys.
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Decoding the Female Language
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8/19/2009 11:15:16 AM
A perfect example:
We were at a pub in a small town on the south shore of lake ontario. We were dancing, partying, having a great time. AWESOME time. It was a perfect summer evening. Not too hot, not too cold, dancing under the stars......PERFECT.
Well we were sitting at our table and all of a sudden she clams up. Totally shuts down. She is FUMING. I am like wth????? What's wrong, NOTHING really, what's wrong NOTHING. She gets up and storms off the patio.
I rush to catch up to her and What's going on? NOTHING.....she storms off down the pier and returns about 20 minutes later.
Well after 3 fricken hours of begging cajoling, she finally opens up and says: if you want to go F that waitress, just go do it!!!!
I said "what waitress"?
She said "the one that was serving the table 3 down from ours".
I had to laugh...really. I said "I don't know what you are talking about"
She said "well you were STARING at her".
I then almost lost it: I said "I wasn't staring at her, I knew the group of guys at the table but couldn't remember where I'd seen them before and was trying to remember their names and it was bugging the heck out of me".....
Ok, though I fear to tread between the erudite pithy personnas of this forum. Go easy on me. I had a very similar scenario:
We are at the neighborhood bar, he is mingling and chatting with his friends, in between sitting with me. (I wasn't allowed to mingle, though I know as many folks as he does in our small town.) I look behind me, it is a rough bar, I like to be aware of my surroundings, to see who is there (a woman.) He immediately says, "If you want to f### him then go ahead!" I tried to explain-silent treament, so I left. He didn't speak to me or acknowledge my presence for months! I did NOT stay with him for years.
There ya go-difference between men and women.
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Why the Off again..ON again thing?
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8/19/2009 5:32:20 AM
I would have to agree with the posters who say maybe he is catching up after spending time with you. Sometimes I just need some down time to rest and recharge. I do recommend asking him directly. Don't whine or sound clingy or insecure, just note the trend and ask for his take on it.
For pity sakes people, quit calling "bipolar" everytime someone behaves strangely. Google it and see what it really is. Symptoms would be depression followed by mania then a drop to depression again or a period of no symptoms at all. There are so many types of bipolar, we certainly couldn't diagnose someone from a short description in a forum. Sometimes it takes trained professionals a from months to a year to diagnose.
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Cruise into Fall at Cruiser's ~ September 26, 2009
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8/18/2009 9:07:32 PM
Cruise on into Fall
At Cruiser’s Ice House
September 26, 2009
9002 FM 2004 (Corner of FM 646)
Santa Fe, TX 77510
8:30 PM to 1:00 AM
Band: Snit's Dog & Pony Show
Rock / Blues / Americana
No cover charge.
Your Cruisin' Event Hostess
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Beer, wine, set-ups, BYOB (liquer that is)
Music out in the open air with picnic tables.
Pool tables inside.
WARNING ABOUT PHOTOS
Photos will be taken at this event by various POF members.
By signing up to this meet or by attending with a POF member, all attendee’s are agreeing that they are aware of this and agree to their photos being displayed on the POF website; however, if you wish to have a photo of yourself removed from the website, please email the hostess and ask.
The meet night photos will appear on the site as soon after the night as possible.
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Women's Favorite/Least Favorite Conversation Topics
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8/18/2009 6:32:32 PM
I found the lists kinda funny. Did they survey women? Or just find a list?
<div class="quote"> Who else finds these just a little bit depressing? I do. I think it is sad (and maybe hypocritical) that women don't seem to have any real intellectual interests. I don't expect politics to be high on the list, but absolute least favorite? Jeez. And I think we all know that "hopes and aspirations" is code for the man's income.
Yes, I guess I find the lists a little depressing. Here is my take on each item.
Women’s Top Ten Favorite Conversation Topics
1. Hopes and aspirations - dreams you mean? not my favorite, nor do I want a financial statement. I like to hear more who he is rather than want he wants or wants to do.
2. Hobbies/interests in general - Interests in general, not a bad topic. Do we have some similar ones? Do I hate what he loves? (That would be golf for me.) Great topic to see if we would mesh.
3. Music - I like to listen to music more than talk about it. I have found vast differences in musical taste, especially if music is a big deal, could spell "mismatch."
4. Dreams - Same as hopes and apirations?
5. Romance - As far as I am concerned romance is a verb not a noun or a subject.
6. Friends - Good subject. Does he have friends, does he value friendships, would he be jealous of my time with friends and family?
7. Travel - Telling stories about where you've been and ancecdotes on people you've interacted with, yes. Telling me where all you have been and how much it cost, no.
8. Vacations - Who wrote this list! It is redundant! See travel.
9. Movies - Not so much, seeing a movie together that was particulary thought provoking, maybe.
10. Entertainment - Hopefully we are entertaining each other, or enjoying entertainment together, not talking about it.
Women’s Top Ten Least Favorite Conversation Topics
1. Politics - Typically becomes a heated discussion. I am not particularly political. I did talk to one fellow who took a blatantly sexual subject and turned it political.
2. Other dates - Actually I don't mind this dicussion, it tells me a lot about the person. As long as he is not extolling the virtues of someone else (which immediately puts him in the friend catagory) or downing women in general, (which strikes him off the list, as it were.) One sentence can be very revealing. One fellow asked, "Why is it women get emotionally involved after having sex?" I didn't answer the question.
3. Past relationships - Also a revealing topic. Enquiring minds want to know! What went wrong, why and how could you have handled it better? Do you take any responsibility or is it all her fault. Actually on my list of top ten TO talk about.
4. Science fiction - I can hang for a bit, a new genre for me as it tends to be heavy reading. Good literature is good literature, makes you rethink yourself sometimes.
5. Religion - Lightly. I can hang on this one as an exchange of information, ideas, beliefs but will NOT argue.
6. Celebrities - Definately not, except as a reference or aside. Even then you may have explain who you are talking about, as I watch practically no television.
7. Science - I like science, if would depend. If really scholarly, I might not be able to keep up. Medicine can be an interesting subject. Science is a really broad topic. Bound to be some really interesting subjects for chat! My Page on yahoo has the latest science and health news on it.
8. Antiques - Clueless on this subject. He would have to teach me.
9. Money - Hmmm, yet #1 on the favorite list is percieved by men to be what we want to know. I covered this subject then. His attitude toward money will show, we don't have to talk about it. Right on here, least favorite.
10. History - Some, I have a few historical heros. I guess I like comptemplating the people more than events. I read biographies more than history books.
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Is sensuality acquired or are you born with it?
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8/18/2009 5:46:25 PM
As I read this I think of two scenarios. One was a visit to my hometown in the local bar next to my motel, I was with a date. This woman walked in, my first take was how garish she was, heavy makeup on a face unattractive enought to downplay rather than call attention to, tight clothes, that I would not wear if I was anywhere near her weight catagory, yet, self confidence to the nth degree. I learned something that night and gave my self confidence a tug.
The second: A show, I forget the hostess. The subject was flat compared to voluptous. The girls in the "study" first went out as they usually dress and do. The flat girls not getting as much attention. Then they traded places, enhanced the flat girls and damped down the not so flat ones. The difference, as far as I could see was their self confidence. I felt the study was incomplete. The smaller breasted girls on the show had low self esteem. They should have had similarly built girls with good self esteem to round out the study.
My point? The externals are not the issue. (As many of you eruditely pointed out.) The OP admits to being shallow, so the make-up, clothes and FMN heels turn him on. (Country song: I like my women on the trashy side?) He said nothing directly about the woman. Confidence is sexy. I do think we can learn to be happy within ourselves, as we are and exude the sexuality that confidence projects. I also think some have it inately. The difference could be subtle enough that most of us would not know whether the person aquired it later or was born with it.
The OP's tomboy friend would do much better to be herself at her best than try to be someone she is not. If you have to try, it is too much work. Do you really want to have to work at it for the rest of your life?
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