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JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Male ED Posted: 11/19/2009 10:24:52 PM
Methinks that a lot of ED drugs are being used recreationally...they're the new 'party drug' of choice for the sexually liberated. I just googled 'viagra street value', and learned that a prescription pill costs about $15 at the pharmacy, and is sold for $30-$40 on a street corner near you. Yep, just another prescription drug for the 'War On Drugs' to deal with.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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People over 30 that are not taken - something wrong with them? Posted: 11/19/2009 10:12:27 AM
Pretty ironic question coming from a 38 year old woman ... The only thing wrong with me is that I have yet to find a woman capable of joining me on my chosen path. I spent my 20's and most of my 30's wandering the Earth, seeking adventures and experiencing Life in as full a manner as possible. Not many women choose that path, so I've finally settled down in a small mountain town that makes me happy, though alone. Needless to say...dating in a small mountain town is problematic. Not many fish to choose from, and even fewer that appeal to me. I have met some fantastic women over the years, but timing and circumstances have gotten between us. My question is: Would y'all feel better about me if I'd grabbed any opportunity to get hitched, followed up by a divorce when the disparity between us became too much to ignore? Perhaps have a couple fatherless children to my credit, too? That would've been pretty easy. So easy that even a caveman could do it. A good reason not to, IMHO. I refuse to settle. If more followed my example, divorce rates would be much lower. I'll be the last sibling to marry, and the last to divorce...both my sibs have been there, done that. Perhaps I'll be the only one to do neither. I'm okay with that.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Whats wrong with people Posted: 11/18/2009 10:10:58 PM
I dont want to have any feelings for her but hatred 'Love' and 'hate' are extremes of the emotional spectrum. Very intense, and energy consuming. I'd recommend seeking a middle ground somewhere around 'indifference'. Much easier to maintain than hatred, and a better mindset for 'moving on'.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Extra Terrestrial Life Posted: 11/18/2009 6:45:26 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure the chances of intelligent life would be more like 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000001% or even worse odds. Did Jiperly just refute a made up number with another made up number? Step aside, Hawking, Sagan, Drake, et al. There's a rising star in the scientific community. Or are you simply making shit up? Priceless. Shouting down the opposing viewpoint...that's what we call 'civil debate'. >>>to suppose that Earth is the only cradle of life and even intelligence is arrogant Why? There have been Billions upon Billions of speices, and only a dozen or so reached a level of intelligence that can be considered human-like. You claim its arrogant to think the universe doesn't have another intelligent life- I say its arrogant to look at the vast and varied history of life on our planet, with billions of lifeforms having existed, thrived, then gone extinct, and to conclude the universe must have lifeforms that in your lifetime. So you say a "dozen or so" species have reached human-like intelligence here on Earth...care to share that list, or did you just make that up? I'm having a hard time comprehending how you can make that claim, yet seemingly refuse to believe it's possible on another planet. Pretty contradictory. If "only a dozen or so" can arise on our single planet, then I would expect intelligence to be even more common out there. I don't recall writing that extraterrestrial lifeforms would act and think identical to the kind of life you see Not at all...different environments require different solutions for life to thrive. Duh. If life can arise here, I sincerely believe it can elsewhere. Why not? Same goes for intelligent life...though I'm starting to doubt it exists on this planet. To think that Earth is a special, unique case in all the universe is arrogant and anthropocentric. In future, please don't put words in my fingers, Jiperly. I'm perfectly capable of answering the OP with my own opinion, and indeed, I started my post with those very words... In my opinion, Believe what you want. I...don't...care. Truly, I don't. You are free to wallow in your own interpretation of reality, as am I. Until ET phones home or we knock on his door, it's all speculation based on the FACT of our own existence. Wanna refute that too? PS Water and dirt are both effective shields against radiation. Europa and Mars, respectively, have plenty. No 'Magnetic Sphere' (aka 'Magnetosphere') needed if you're deep enough, and yep, that's where I'd expect it to be hiding...if it's there. Only one way to find out.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Extra Terrestrial Life Posted: 11/17/2009 12:27:41 PM
In my opinion, ET is out there, but wisely maintains a 'hands off' policy towards our primitive, warlike species. There's 100 billion stars in our own galaxy, and to suppose that Earth is the only cradle of life and even intelligence is arrogant, IMHO. We 'know' life exists here, and this is the only solar system we've even begun to explore. There are other possible lifezones within our own system, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find at least primitive life on one or more of our neighbors. Europa and Mars are known to possess the 'right stuff'...water and trace chemicals plus time. Comets contain amino acids, and that's the basic building block of life as we know it. Amino acids have been detected in the spectrum of other star sytems as well. I base my opinion on science and observation.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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No-one likes him except me Posted: 11/17/2009 11:18:25 AM
I can empathize, OP...I lived on the road in a van for years and no woman would give me the time of day. Now I'm settled down, have my own biz and home...and still no women in my life. Guess it wasn't the van, huh? On the other hand, I never took any kind of public assistance during my 'road-trip'. I worked where and when I needed to. A willingness to live off the public teat doesn't exactly scream 'good catch', and that particular 'red flag' is why your friends and family call him a 'deadbeat'. He is, IMO. Just curious, but how do you 'know' he had a $30/hr job and a richy apartment. Sold his car, sled, big screen etc. to buy an AstroVan and come out West. Sounds pretty irresponsible, in any case. You'd think he'd have a bankroll to finance his roadtrip...or at least find paying work. There's no honor in being able-bodied and on the public dole. Just my opinion.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Religion Posted: 11/14/2009 9:17:17 PM
I don't really care what others call themselves and their beliefs...what matters most to me is their integrity. How consistently their actions reflect their beliefs. Hypocrisy is a major character flaw, IMO.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Circumsision and its woes. Posted: 11/14/2009 8:43:26 PM
it's child abuse to carve an infants penis so they wont enjoy sex (when they are an adult) as much as they would if they didn't have it. This common conception that sex is less enjoyable for circumcised men always makes me wonder... How can that be known unless one has been both? I have no complaints, and have heard none from my partners.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Seeing more than one guy... am I outta line here? Posted: 11/13/2009 9:40:14 PM
'Seeing' more than one guy...not a problem. being intimate with them Big problem. I don't wait in line for any woman. Lying about it...better not. No trust = no relationship. JMO.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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A Plugged up Toilet, so she packed up and left?! Should I let it go? Posted: 11/8/2009 11:08:21 AM
Thanks for sharing this story, OP. From this day forward, whenever I feel down about my continuing 'single' status, I'll remind myself of this example. I literally Guffawed Out Loud (GOL) when I got to the bit about 'her' toilet paper bought with parental funds. Change The Locks. That's all I have for advice, as noted by many others. Even if she returns your key, she may have another copy, and I wouldn't be willing to take that chance, personally. All you need is a Phillips screwdriver...

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Is it harder to fall in love after you reach a certain age? Posted: 11/7/2009 9:13:54 AM
I see here that lots of middle aged guys are still looking for their so called- soulmate but I am not sure they really mean it. I can't answer for 'lots of middle aged guys', but I, personally, mean it. Really.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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23 year old women without children, and I'm weird? Posted: 11/7/2009 8:41:01 AM
If you're weird, then I must be a freak. You could be my daughter, so get crackin' with the grandbabies, already! Spawning is a choice. Choose wisely.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Bypassing the phone, is it okay or not? Posted: 11/5/2009 9:40:56 PM
Since I can't read the man's facial expressions or body language, I find it awkward trying to get to know a man on the phone. That pretty much sums it up for me, too. Even a little 'facetime' helps to fill in those blanks. My best 'First Date' happened with no phone at all, just email. If she'd only been as divorced as her profile was...

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Does exactly what it says on the tin? hmmm doubtful! Posted: 10/29/2009 8:34:29 AM
I have since updated my profile stating if the man is looking for a fu buddy or one nite stand then i am not the girl for you.... funny my inbox has been gathering dust since! haha so my faith in men has taken a bit of a temporary nosedive. The truly funny thing is, when I read something like that in a profile, I backclick. Quickly. No, not because I'm one of those seeking a fu buddy, FWB, or one night hookup...but because I have no desire to wade through such carefully crafted defenses. In short, that type of statement says: "I've been hurt, used, and trampled upon, so I'll treat you like one of the shmucks who did it until you prove otherwise." I have nothing to 'prove' about my intentions. See how that works? Sharks can smell blood in the water, so all you're doing is advertising yourself as 'wounded prey'. A true 'player' will see that as a challenge of his skills.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Time to launch...from elsewhere? Posted: 10/28/2009 9:12:01 AM
I believe that one of the main considerations for putting the launch site on the east coast of Florida was the complete lack of 'land' to the east...the direction of launch. A failed launch from Florida splashes into the ocean. From Texas, theres a whole bunch of people living downrange to the east that might not be so thrilled to have flaming debris falling on their homes. Plenty of videos on YouTube to demonstrate that concept. Cool launch of the Ares 1-X, BTW.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Are people that have been in FAITHFUL ltr's better lovers? Posted: 10/20/2009 7:42:20 PM
Interesting twist to that other thread. I like your premise better. 'Trust' is an aphrodisiac, IMHO.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Conservatives discover Zero-tolerance may not be answer Posted: 10/13/2009 9:45:36 PM
Zero Tolerance...what a great concept. It's just a darn shame that the 'real' world isn't as cut and dry as the laws would have us believe. I am aghast that a 6 year old is being threatened with 45 days in juvy. Poor kid just became a sacrificial lamb on the altar of absolutes. Gonna scar him for life in the name of 'Zero Tolerance'. This incident only serves to distract us from the real danger...sharp pencils. Think about it. It wouldn't be too hard to kill someone with a pencil...properly motivated. I survived such an attack, and still bear the scars. Such dangerous items have no place in our Columbine-conscious schools. Perhaps airport security should take note of that as well. I'd hate to see a Bin Laden video gloating about bringing the infidels down with freshly-sharpened #2 pencils. And don't even get me started on empty soda cans...shudder ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Personally, I think the 'intent' of the person behind the weapon as the most dangerous part of it, be it a gun, knife, broken bottle, or 2X4.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Why is it such a stigma to be an older bachelor? Posted: 10/9/2009 6:14:41 PM
By my advanced age of 42,, the vast majority of people have been married at LEAST once, so that is 'normal' to them. Freaks like us are considered 'broken' in any number of ways. I remember a female poster in another thread declaring that she wouldn't consider dating someone who hadn't been divorced at least once. The implication was that 'practice makes perfect', but she wouldn't date someone divorced 3 or more times. Guess there's a limit to how much practice is good for relationships. Heck, I could've had several bad marriages if I felt like settling for a bit, and I'll wager you could've as well. There's still plenty of fish, and plenty of time for that.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Guys - Is this True or False?? Posted: 10/9/2009 1:42:56 PM
Perhaps those who make such statements have ulterior motives. My parachute is a Stiletto 170...what does that say to you?

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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About those who set meetings, never show, but want online sex? Posted: 10/6/2009 6:25:28 PM
I feel this type of person gives those out there who are honestly looking for a good woman.. a bad name! Fear not, Copperlady...my name is still mine own. Those guys only give themselves a bad name. There's lots of bad names to choose from, so have fun with it!

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Would This Offend You? Posted: 10/6/2009 10:20:01 AM
I was just trying to be helpfull, but I felt like I shouldn't have said anything. You do realize that your post will probably fill your inbox with more d!ck pics than you can shake a stick at, right? This has to be the first time I've read a woman post about d!ck pics that wasn't offended. I told him it was perfect in real life but he might want to get a better picture at a different angle for future use. Nice save...Gotta give you credit for offering to help him with his 'little' problem.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Straight men and Anal play - yay or nay? Posted: 10/5/2009 9:23:02 PM
Judging by how uncomfortable I was during a medical exam, I can definitively state: NAY! Truly an excruciating experience, by a probe slimmer than a finger. Oddly enough, I wasn't comforted by the nurse patting me on the hand and saying "Relax, it'll be easier for you." For real?!? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, much less myself or my lover.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Are Men Capable of Committment? Posted: 10/4/2009 12:28:51 PM
I am soooo much more than my 'genetic programming'. Guys who use that argument are trying to justify their cheating ways. Apparently it's true for him. A real man can differentiate between his primitive instincts and the reality of modern relationships. Monogamy is a choice.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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'Sole' is a fish......... Posted: 10/3/2009 5:07:54 PM
Sole also means "one and only", "single", and "exclusive" according to my dictionary. Therefore, a 'sole' mate is a perfectly valid concept. Isn't it amazing how words can have multiple meanings?!

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Harder to involve one's self with women with male teens versus female teens? Posted: 10/3/2009 1:16:16 PM
Any time I read a thread about single Moms, I think of my own Mom. She did a fine job raising me, and my stepdad stepped up to the plate with no qualms when I was 16. 26 years later, they're still positive examples for me. I don't think I'm an exception to the rule...I was just happy to see Mom happy. Still am. No general rule of thumb can apply across the board, so keep fishing.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Block phone number Posted: 10/3/2009 10:41:14 AM
Offended? No. I want women to feel safe, and personal info like that can be misused by nefarious types. I've yet to meet a woman I feared, so I give my own number freely and usually suggest they block their number if they use it.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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sex talk Posted: 9/23/2009 4:52:25 PM
It's got a lot to do with timing, for me. What stage of the relationship we're in. I was enjoying a first phone convo when I was asked..."What's your favorite drink?" "Orange juice" I replied. "O.J. makes your cum taste sweet" she said. I was a bit flabbergasted by that comment, but carried on. Not much later, she asked how long my c0ck was. I wasn't turned on. Quite the opposite. Apparently she was displeased that I refused the bait, so she turned nasty and deleted her profile. Can you say...dodged a bullet?! :run:

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Religious discrimination Posted: 9/22/2009 3:45:17 PM
You'd think that the founder of the Jedi church could utilize his Jedi mind-powers to deflect discrimination thusly... "These are not the hoodies you're looking for." But seriously...he's the founder. Thus, HE wrote the 'Jedi doctrination' that he follows. Seems to me that a true Jedi would know the difference between a worthy battle against discrimination and a bucket of hogwash. In any case, I'm delighted to see that not all flakes are confined to this continent.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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hand held gps units Posted: 9/22/2009 9:47:13 AM
I was introduced to 'geocaching' this summer, and I picked up a Garmin Colorado 400t for $300 online...half of the MSRP of $600. It came with topo maps preloaded, and is one sweet machine...always puts me within 10 feet of the cache, despite tight topography, trees, and cloud cover. It also has a 3D rendering mode that virtually allows you to scout out the terrain ahead. Extra batteries not included.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Move/Betrayal Posted: 9/21/2009 9:28:31 PM
I live in Alaska. He lives in Colorado. That's too darn funny. Plenty of weather and critters in my part of Colorado...first snow on the ground today. He must be a city slicker... Good to hear you declined a conditional relationship at such an early stage . 5 days is not even close to enough facetime to commit to move in the first place. Control issues are never pretty.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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How do I help him? Posted: 9/16/2009 3:30:28 PM
A person cannot enlist in the Navy until they've passed a medical exam first. Very true, Landra2, but not completely. The entrance physical is not much more detailed than a highschool sports physical. Further testing can be done later, depending on one's rating. There were no fewer than 3 separate exams I had to pass before final medical clearance to attend Aircrew training... all at different steps in the training process, including one while in bootcamp. It got pretty invasive, if you know what I mean. During my Navy service, I personally knew one guy with a heart condition, one with diabetes, and another with an immune deficiency. All were medically discharged soon after diagnosis. Depending on their length of service, some were eligible for at least partial VA medical benefits. OP, perhaps your paramour might be eligible as well?

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Why the nasty girl Posted: 9/15/2009 5:08:41 PM
Look at it this way, OP... If your BF's take off for her 'greener pastures', they weren't such good BF's, were they? Keep the skank around...the BF who doesn't go after her just might be a keeper... For YOU.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Having member of opposite sex write your profile. Posted: 9/10/2009 12:58:02 PM
I'm not a fan of that idea, for much the same reasons I don't often comment in 'Profile Reviews'. Your profile is about you, so it should be written by the one closest to you...you! Sure, get a little help with the rough edges, but the 'tone of voice' should be yours. Have your friend write a glowing Testimonial...that's the appropriate venue. Consider the tale of Cyrano De Bergerac...with a gender twist. That might not work out so well for you...unless they let you watch.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Are you sleeping with your job? Posted: 9/8/2009 3:47:49 PM
He deserved a breakup by voice mail then lol Not worth losing any sleep over, anyways.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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We've not met, but he's already spending money on me... Posted: 9/8/2009 12:24:31 PM
But what if he is a saint? Is it not worth finding out? The trouble lies in determining his real intentions. Predators can keep up a very 'saint-like' appearance for a long time. Google 'Son of Sam' for clarification. A real charmer...

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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We've not met, but he's already spending money on me... Posted: 9/8/2009 12:13:27 PM
I'll go out on a limb and suggest he wants to replace your hand with his in your cleavage pic. You haven't even met, yet he's quick to play the 'Sugar Daddy' card. Sounds a bit on the 'creepy' side to me. Meet publicly. Guys CAN be generous and caring towards people they like...but that dude's either a saint or a predator, IMHO. Survey says...?

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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http://www.indiadatingclub.com/pof2/redir.html Posted: 9/8/2009 10:44:30 AM
I'm getting it too. First popup I've run across on POF. Hope it's the last.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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College education dealbreaker Posted: 9/7/2009 10:35:27 PM
Meh...it's your standard, who cares what those non-diploma'd schmucks think. I think it's a darn shame we can't set educational email filters. You don't wanna date 'em, and they don't wanna date an elitest snob who believes a piece of paper has any more actual worth than a dollar bill. Works out well for both of us, n'est pas? Ironically, you don't need a degree to read Kafka, reminisce about college, or make loan payments...I know one such freak personally.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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What Makes You Say, Yeah, Right? Posted: 9/3/2009 7:38:12 PM
There seems to be an awful lot of 'models' in this pond...an entire catalog's worth.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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I felt I came out desperate...what now? Posted: 8/30/2009 2:42:53 PM
damn it..I want my dignity back. Dignity...the first casualty of the online dating experience. Keep the faith, OP...he still might respond.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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i know what i DON'T want Posted: 8/28/2009 5:31:43 PM
I'd rather than focus on the positives, those traits that attract me. Negative traits can be negotiable if there's more good than bad. Compromise... definitely a positive.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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How to tell someone you have dated twice you are no longer interested Posted: 8/27/2009 9:52:13 AM
My instinct is to be honest and write him with a polite Dear John letter Oh Nooooooooooooo! Not a 'Dear John' letter! Johns everywhere cringe at this colloquialism. Use his own name for best results. Seriously though, an honest rejection is better than a kind lie. Silence is the chicken way.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Anyone else not see the value in diamonds and other jewelry? Posted: 8/24/2009 10:10:13 AM
I'm with you, OP...never made a lick of sense to me. Value will never go down. Try telling that to any of the 'Cash for Gold' operations out there. The dealer markup on jewelry makes cars look like a solid investment.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Do we internet date because we all have an ISSUE? Posted: 8/5/2009 10:58:21 AM
It's a very simple issue for me, OP...I live FAR from the major population centers of my state, Colorado. Pickin's are slim up here. Mail-order is looking better every day.

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Do you tell them your married in your profile Posted: 7/25/2009 9:43:07 AM
Yet it seems okay for woman to be married and cheating........and men don't say only singles wanted......... Excuse me...? How exactly does it 'seem' okay for women to cheat? Personally, 'Separated' still means 'Married' to me, and I have little desire to participate in anyone's cuckhold fantasy. Broke my F'n heart to learn, belatedly, that the object of my desire wasn't as 'Divorced' as her profile was. How's your wife feel about this subject?

JohnEDeep

Joined: 7/9/2007

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For a Laugh- What movie would you base your life on as of now? Posted: 7/24/2009 11:06:18 PM
Groundhog Day... I like to believe that every day is full of unlimited possibility...if only I make the right decisions, and take the right actions. One of these days, I'll get it right.

jumpinjohne

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Must have car and job=gold digger? Posted: 7/23/2009 7:27:47 PM
Heck, I can only WISH for a 'real' Gold Digger to contact me... Gotta move a lot of dirt to strike it rich.

jumpinjohne

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Do Men Really Want Honesty? Posted: 7/23/2009 6:02:49 PM
The kind of honesty that is long delayed doesn't count. A VERY good point. I'll even take that a step further and say it doesn't have to be a LONG delay to cause great pain. Some deal-breakers are set in stone within each of us, so even a delay of a few seconds can erode trust. Perhaps irreparably so.

jumpinjohne

Joined: 7/9/2007

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Shoot Guns on a first date!! Posted: 7/21/2009 1:55:37 PM
Not a 'total' no no. Depends on who you ask along. I once had a 2nd date that involved taking a 'concealed carry' class together...all survived. Yeah, that was kinda bizarre...

jumpinjohne

Joined: 7/9/2007

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What the H*LL is up with all these women jumpin' out of planes! Posted: 7/20/2009 11:59:02 PM
Only morons jump out of planes. Seriosuly I do not even like going over the Tapanzee bridge. I'd much rather go out for ice cream and a walk and risk lactose intolerance or slipping and taking my date down with me. Why face death head on. Do you have any idea how many people die in sky diving accidents? 30 every year. 1 death for every 100,000 jumps. 1 in 100,000 odds not safe enough for you? Sheesh...and you're the one with 'Gambling' in your interests. I've yet to meet a single jumper with 100,000 jumps...but a few with over 20,000. If I make it to 6 figures, I'll try not to think about that next one too much. Jumpers come from all walks of life...doctors, lawyers, musicians, welders...even computer geeks. Not exactly a group of 'morons'. Only morons condemn those who dare what they do not.

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