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 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 177 (view)
 
open/dating/polyamory relationships
Posted: 1/20/2012 7:44:46 PM
Do you have more than one child?

Following that logic, parents can only love one child.
Siblings can only love one other sibling.
Children can only love one parent.
Friends can only have ONE dear friend.

And - one person can meet ALL the needs of another person. Which means that once you get married, you should not need friends or anyone else in your life...

However, I will concede - polyamory is not for everyone. Very few people are built for the requirements of poly.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 174 (view)
 
open/dating/polyamory relationships
Posted: 1/20/2012 10:24:55 AM
Green eyes - well said.

Mr. Anon - exactly.

Polyamory is not necessarily polygamy. My SO and I have been in an open, polyamorous relationship since the start five years ago. There are months that there is no one else, but we both know that if there is, we are free to pursue - with full honesty to each other.

Most people cannot handle the honesty and communication required of polyamory.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Polyamory - open marriage
Posted: 12/6/2011 10:30:07 AM
Well said.

The commonly held monogamy is not true monogamy - true monogamy is ONE partner, for life. What most people practice is Serial Monogamy.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
WHY ARE KIDS SO NEEDY
Posted: 6/15/2010 7:01:26 AM
Simple, because their parents allow it.

My older son is 17 - once he graduates high school, he will only be allowed to live rent free in my home if he is going to college. I will, however, expect him to have a job and contribute to household expenses - and that is going to college full time.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
When is the right time to go monogamous
Posted: 6/15/2010 6:08:17 AM
Not necessarily. Not if you are not a believer in monogamy.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 248 (view)
 
Is it ok to ask for your wedding ring back after divorce?
Posted: 6/15/2010 6:05:10 AM
See, my thought is if it were a family heirloom, then yes, it should be returned to the family whence it came.

However, if it is not, then no - s/he fulfilled the requirement by marrying you - if it did not work out, no matter whose fault, asking for it back is just petty and spiteful and tells me that you are not over her yet.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 29 (view)
 
Would you date a man who is in a tribute band?
Posted: 6/13/2010 2:23:31 PM
I think that's awesome! :) Are they any good?

Why wouldn't I keep dating him? Sorry, I'm confused as to where the issue is?
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 33 (view)
 
He/she still watches cartoons...
Posted: 6/13/2010 2:17:34 PM
Well, first of all, there is a difference between just watching cartoons because the kids have them on or because there is nothing else on and "has to catch Pokemon" every Saturday morning. BIG difference.

Kids? Hell, my seventeen year old still watches Avatar, Dragonball Z, etc - if he happens to be home and they come on, he watches them. Does he make a concerted effort to be in front of the TV at a specific time to watch the cartoons? No, but he still watches them - again, big difference.

Normal is ... whatever works for that person - you have a great guy who has a good job, a clean home, happy, well adjusted kids, treats you well, and he just happens to be fascinated by Saturday morning cartoons - who gives a rat's @$$? Let the man watch his cartoons...
You have a teenager who gets good grades, has friends, does his homework and cleans his room and still watches Pokemon? Leave the kid alone, for crying out loud.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 63 (view)
 
Saving it until marriage is it really that great?
Posted: 6/13/2010 9:48:55 AM
I don't buy a car without test driving it first.
I wouldn't marry a guy I hadn't had sex with either.

I'm 38, been married and divorced. Had sex that was mind-blowing incredible and had sex that really sucked. There is NO way in hell I'd commit myself to someone "for life" without knowing if the sex was at least going to be enjoyable.

Sorry, but lousy sex will, in the long run, destroy the romance (which in turn turns the marriage into a platonic relationship - why bother being married?)

Then again, I don't ever intend to get married again, either.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Who's Right?
Posted: 6/9/2010 5:09:38 PM
Well, I guess it comes down to this.

You say it is stated in the court papers, so now, if you really feel this needs to be seriously addressed, there is only one avenue and that is taking your ex-wife BACK to court and having a judge decide to slap her hands or to tell you to get over it. (Those are the most likely outcomes - it is highly unlikely he will reduce or remove her visitation based on this issue, unless it can be proven that this guy is a danger to your boys - unfortunately, him not having custody of his boys doesn't mean squat).

So, that being said... is it worth it? Worth the financial cost of a lawyer and court costs and lost wages... worth the tension and negativity it will cause between you and your ex and her boyfriend (who may or may not be involved in your life via your boys for many, many years to come)... worth the stress it will place on you, your ex, her boyfriend, and most importantly, your boys?

In my opinion, for me - it would not be worth it. As long as this man is not a danger to your sons and your objection is purely moral (which it appears to be), then let it go. You have made your feelings known and your ex has basically told you to go pound sand. If you want to teach your boys to grow up to be moral men, then lead by example and don't worry about what your ex is doing - she only has them three weekends a month (as long as what she does does not endanger your boys). Your sons will learn so much more from you behaving in the way in which you want them to behave than by anything else.

Good luck.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 181 (view)
 
Do women like men with long or short hair?
Posted: 6/3/2010 12:22:23 PM
long as you can grow it...
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Relationship advice, need an unbiased opinion
Posted: 6/3/2010 12:19:37 PM
He's not Bipolar - he's Borderline Personality Disorder. Look it up... and run like hell unless you are willing to live the rest of your life like this.

Any "man" who treated me like he just treated you would not have had the time to see the door hitting him in the ass. Why are you allowing him to treat you like this? Why are you teaching your eight year old son that it is perfectly acceptable to treat your gf/wife/female partner like a piece of property and play head games with her?

Time to take a LARGE step back and take a long, hard look at what you are doing with this person and decide if that is how you want to be treated for the rest of your life (or until he finds someone else to fill the chasm inside him and leaves you for her).
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Paying for teen's birth control
Posted: 4/30/2010 4:29:28 PM
And since things seem to be a bit touchy in here - please note, the long center paragraph is NOT directed at anyone in particular, it is primarily a venting by me of the nonsense I see and deal with on a regular basis.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 53 (view)
 
Paying for teen's birth control
Posted: 4/30/2010 4:18:48 PM
I'd pay for it. I DO pay for it - I buy condoms for my nearly 17 year old son and told him that I will continue to buy them until he can afford them himself because if he cannot afford condoms, then he sure as hell cannot afford a child.

Regarding the "raise them morally right" - well, I was raised morally right and did my best to raise my children morally right. Teenagers still have sex.

Funny thing I noted growing up and even now, watching my son's friends... its the parents who get all high and mighty and instill the fear of God (or the belt, usually one and the same) and get on the morally righteous kick... its those parents whose kids are the ones who get pregnant young (usually because sex ed consisted of "You'd better NEVER!"). Those are the parents who are the LAST to know that their little Johnny or Susie is having sex (and it is usually on Johnny or Susie's sixth or seventh partner). I don't know whether to sigh or cry when I have a thirteen or fourteen year old girl asking ME about what she should do because she had sex with her bf (not my son) and she has burning and pain or her period is late... and she CAN'T ask her mother about it or to take her to the doctor because her mother would "kill her" if she knew she wasn't a virgin. I seriously want to slap the shit out of these parents for not paying attention - denial isn't going to make your daughter a virgin again. Grounding her isn't going to make her a virgin again. They ask me because they know that I talk to my son about sex and prevention and protection and I do not have my head stuck in the ground pretending he's not going to have sex til he's married nor do I scream at him and ground him and on and on and on because he's sexually active. Do I want him to be sexually active? No, but the reality is that he is. I was at his age. His father was at his age. Everyone I knew was at his age (even the preacher's daughter... and the Jehovah Witness kids... and the Mormon kids... and so on and so on - no matter how "morally righteously" they were raised).

Kind of like how Celibacy Only sex ed in schools has resulted in skyrocketing teen pregnancy rates in same schools...

In the end, OP, your child, your choice... personally, I'd rather make damn sure I don't become a grandparent before my son is emotionally able and financially prepared to be a father - which means well over 18 and through college.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Child care provider cant watch baby because she cries too much?
Posted: 4/13/2010 6:18:23 PM

The OMS recommends that babies are breastfed exclusively for six months, for a number of reasons. I believe that maternity leave should never end before the first birthday of the child but, in any case, to put a baby under 6 months in babycare is going too far.


Um, well, in a perfect world...
My husband walked out three weeks before our son was born. I had a house (with the requisite mortgage and bills) and a ten year old son to care for financially and staying at home, unpaid (good old USA gives 12 weeks of UNPAID maternity leave maximum before they no longer hold your position for you) for a year was out of the question. I would have lost our home and not been able to feed and care for my children and myself. As a result, my younger son was in a home daycare from age ten weeks old. Granted, I knew the woman who ran the daycare from high school and made many "drop in" visits from my third trimester all the way up to when I returned to work at eight weeks post-partum (my mother took off two weeks to care for my infant son for his 8th and 9th weeks of life).

Going too far? In a perfect world, pitufina... in a perfect world.

(Just for the record and hopefully to encourage the OP's daughter, while working FT as a single mom, I breastfed and pumped milk for the entire first 25 months of his life, as advocated by the W.H.O.) :) It's not easy, but it can be done with a good, sturdy pump and lots of oatmeal!
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
HERPES Who is to blame
Posted: 3/22/2010 6:01:31 PM
Though I have been very lucky and never contracted anything like this, I know someone very dear to me who was unlucky - using protection, in a committed relationship, and then she learned the awful truth.


feline..with all due respect. I still stand by what I said in my previous post.

You have no one to blame but yourself if you do contract any sort of STDs or STIs.

You make your choice who, when, where, how you have sex, (unless it is rape) so if you dont take certain precautions before you make these choices, then the blame is yours if you do catch anything!!


May you never have to eat those words.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 96 (view)
 
Naked Pictures on The Internet? Ok or Not Ok?
Posted: 3/21/2010 7:37:11 AM
I think YOU should be upset if you post naked pictures of yourself on the internet... barring, of course, porn "stars" and the like. Once you put it out there, it is out there FOREVER and you have no control over where it goes or who sees it (like your mother, father, boss, children...)
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Would you marry a woman because she is VERY MUCH IN LOVE with you?
Posted: 3/12/2010 3:07:34 PM
Nope. Been there, done that. Married someone because they loved me soooo much, I thought I couldn't go wrong. *laugh* Got a great kid out of the marriage, but it still failed quite miserably.

Love has to go equally both ways or the marriage doesn't stand a chance.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 160 (view)
 
divorce verses affair...isnt it about time we accepted affairs..
Posted: 3/12/2010 2:54:59 PM

When you dishonor your marriage there is nothing left of it but the lie, and that's not a good home for raising children. They would be better served having a pod of amorous adults carousing the hallways late at night making strange noises than being stuck in a house of lies with two estranged parents presenting a false front and an example of deceptive hypocrisy.

I'm not a purist but I was wondering, what moral values can you teach your kids with that arrangement? Can you really tell your kids it's right to have lovers at home? Can you really say that you have not dishonor your marriage? Can you honestly say that because the parents and the kids are still together but living in that situation, will you still call it a HOME? Just because it works, does it follows that it is also right?


Hey, here's an idea - why do the children need to know about the adults' sex lives? They don't normally in monogamous relationships, so why do they have to in poly or open relationships. My children don't belong (figuratively) in my bedroom - no matter if I'm monogamous or polyamorous.
I'm poly - neither of my children are aware of my sex life - even my sixteen year old (who knows EVERYTHING or so he thinks...). I am very careful not to expose them to something they do not have the maturity to handle. They know I have male friends, but that is the limit. They don't see us having sex or showing explicit PDAs. Even with my primary partner, whom I live with, there is a modicum of maturity and decency. It's called being a responsible adult. On the flip side, my ex & his wife are swingers - not really my business - but since they are, well, not very careful about privacy, our teenage son knows *far* more than I feel is appropriate and therefore, I know. (Kind of odd to have my ex show up with a female friend and after they leave, have our son tell me, "Oh, yeah, that's one of dad's "fvck buddies". She & dad & (stepmom) have a threesome sometimes..." *sigh*
Not exactly the kind of info I think a child - even a nearly grown one - should have - be their parents monogamous, polyamorous, or swingers.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 79 (view)
 
Being falsely accused of cheating...How did it make you feel?
Posted: 3/12/2010 2:33:54 PM

After we broke up, I learned my SO was having an affair at the time of making that bizzare accusation. Maybe it is true that those who falsely accuse have the notion in their head for themselves.


Almost always...

My exhusband cheated on me throughout the third trimester of my pregnancy with our son... while I was raising two of his kids, my own, working fulltime, trying to manage the household AND be a good wife to him - all while heavily pregnant with a child conceived shortly after he returned home from an eight week training (coincidentally conceived at the same time of year three of his other four children were conceived...). Yet, after he left and moved in with her, he had the balls to insinuate that he wasn't certain of the paternity of our son.
I literally saw red. I ripped him a new ass and told him that if he *truly* had any shred of doubt of MY fidelity in our marriage, then he was more than welcome to request a DNA test - but when the test came back proving what we both already knew, that I was going to take out a newspaper ad telling the world of his bullshit cheating and false accusation. Petty? Yes, but I was furious and hurt - being abandoned at nine months pregnant tends to make for a pissed off wife.
Needless to say, he never said another word about it - never requested a DNA test or denied his son's paternity again.
Still infuriates me that after cheating on me and leaving me, he would try to "clean up" his image by trying to tar me with his brush...
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 105 (view)
 
Do you respond to people who obviously didn't read your profile?
Posted: 3/7/2010 5:46:06 PM
Other than (on occasion) to say, "READ THE PROFILE, MATE!" or (when I'm in a pissy mood) "F*CK OFF"... um, no.

Actually, I usually do the Read/Delete.

Hell, half the time I don't have time to reply to regular emails, no less some jackoff who can't even be bothered to pay attention to what I wrote.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Is this kinda stuff convenient, or does it promote lazy parenting?
Posted: 3/7/2010 5:31:33 PM

How do you ladies look at men who use these distractions with their kids?


And to answer this question - it makes me smile. Of course, I'm the kind of mom who you will see/hear making race car noises while pushing the race car cart, too... when we stop at the item we need, I'll tell my now seven year old that he's my pit crew and I'm timing him on getting the necessary supplies...
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Is this kinda stuff convenient, or does it promote lazy parenting?
Posted: 3/7/2010 5:28:56 PM
Dude. She's a kid. She's SIX, for crying out loud - EVERYTHING is about having fun.

And, it's a plastic shopping cart. It's MADE for kids to have fun while parents/caretakers are shopping. Did you *seriously* think this was a big deal?

Honestly, it sounds to me like either:
A) you are so out of touch with being a kid and child-like spirit of things that you have NO clue of how to be around kids, or
B) you were embarrassed to push around the goofy looking kid cart, cause it wasn't "cool" in your eyes.

Either way, you come off as a stick-in-the-mud and someone who needs to learn how to loosen up and have some fun!
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Are there places it's not okay??
Posted: 3/7/2010 5:21:49 PM
Well, call it a long shot, but first thing that came to my mind was a funeral. Hitting on a chick at a funeral is probably a no-go.

Ditto with an STD or abortion clinic.

Court, jail, probation office, and psychiatric hospitals are also probably good places to keep the flirting on the down-low as well.
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Lactose Intolerant and breastfeeding?
Posted: 3/7/2010 4:23:35 PM

its time consuming, yes, h


Actually, bottle feeding is MORE time consuming... with breastfeeding, there is no heating of bottles, no washing of bottles, sanitizing, preparing, etc. It comes in a pre-warmed, sanitary, carry along container. ;)
 Jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Lactose Intolerant and breastfeeding?
Posted: 3/7/2010 4:21:50 PM

You being lactose intolerant has absolutely nothing to do with breastfeeding a baby. Now if the baby were, breastfeeding is still fine, it is formulas you have to worry about since many are milk based and therefore contain lactose.


X2.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 49 (view)
 
What are some of the funniest things you've had happen on your first date?
Posted: 3/6/2010 5:18:19 PM
Okay, well, not really a date, but went to a bonfire at a friend's house and there was this very cute, young guy (about 12 years younger than I, but damn, he was hot) and as the night goes on, little bit of flirting, laughing, some drinking (not me) and someone gets the idea to go out four-wheeling... ok, sure. So, we are all riding around a big empty field (at about 2AM), head back to the bonfire and the cute guy pulls his ATV over to the side of the road. He starts to stand up and *poof* he's gone! We all go running over to where he was a moment before and find him getting out from under his ATV in a small stream that was right next to where he had stopped! Seems he had stopped at the part of the road that had a sharp drop off due to a stream going under the road - when he stood, the ATV just topple right over and landed upside down with him underneath it!

As everyone else is standing around, I (the only female there) jumped the five feet down into the stream to help him - much to his shock. :) I helped him get the ATV back upright and made sure he was okay (alcohol can be helpful for some things) and then we turned around to see (via flashlight) that we were entirely surrounded by thickets... we spent hours trying to ride the ATV down the stream (the ONLY break in the thicket) before giving it up - including me driving (for the very first time) the ATV while he tried to ease it down a three foot drop in 2' deep, icey cold stream water at 3AM by flashlight... Someone else tried to drive their truck in through the thicket another way and ended up getting the truck stuck instead.

It was quite a painful situation, but we ended up laughing our asses off the entire time, had a great time, had a bit of a make out session, and we made a ridiculous situation fun... by the light of the next day, we both knew that our lives were too different to really make anything of it and parted with some fun memories.

(He did, btw, after several hours with his truck, get the ATV out, as did his brilliant, drunk buddy who tried to drive his truck into the thickets...)
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Am I the only one...?
Posted: 3/6/2010 6:39:07 AM
Welcome to dating. No, you aren't the only one - if you use thread search you will find hundreds of stories just like yours.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 228 (view)
 
Do girls use guys for sex?
Posted: 3/4/2010 2:14:36 PM
Well, in response to your title.. yeah! DOH!
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Getting the truth
Posted: 3/4/2010 1:42:22 PM

I don't owe you anything other than to tell you I don't want to be with you.[/quote}

Ah, but you see, I think the OP was saying that he did not even do that - he just pulled a vanishing act. I had ONE of those - turned out he went back to his wife... and that he had lied about his age, his former profession, the fact that he already had an exwife and two grown sons (who were barely younger than I) and pretty much everything else in his life.

OP - because he's a coward. Simple as that. You did, indeed, dodge a bullet - be glad the waste of space is gone from your life. If you were to learn the truth, it might hurt more than not knowing... you might learn that everything you believed to be true about him was all fantasy.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Italian Social Club - Hoppers Crossing, Victoria.
Posted: 3/4/2010 12:41:18 PM
Why is this here? What does it have to do with Single Parents? Isn't there a forum for meet-ups?
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
How to maintain energy with 8 month old?
Posted: 2/28/2010 6:08:13 PM
Other than making sure you eat healthy and exercise (will build your stamina)... you don't. You do the best you can and are expected to be sleep-deprived.

BTW - exercising with a baby - put baby in a sling or a stroller and go for a walk! Every little bit helps.

I am concerned that you are so energy deprived at a very young age - have you had your vitamin levels checked by a doctor? Vitamin B deficiency, and Iron deficiency, will both sap your strength and energy levels. Vitamin B levels can be deficient especially if you are nursing. :)
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 122 (view)
 
Do women who engage in affairs w/married men deserve an apology?
Posted: 2/28/2010 8:34:25 AM

Did we? Really? OJ didn't have to apologize to us for what he did, even at the level that he claimed to have committed, one would think his confessed sins were still worse than Tiger's. What have we come to, really, when we are so deeply mired into celbrity's lives that we need to be apologized to when our shiney star gets a little tarnished?


Exactly. This is between Tiger and his wife. Does it affect how he plays golf? Not directly. If everyone would butt the hell out and let them deal with it between themselves, no, it most likely would not affect his golf game - which is what we pay him for. When it comes to Tiger Woods, the only thing that I might want to hear about is how many of his balls he sunk into the golf course holes - not which personal clubs he sunk into other holes. Don't care. Felt the same way about Clinton and Lewinsky, Edwards and his "mistress" - OJ, well, that was a bit different - he murdered people - kind of takes you off the field when you commit murder. Adultery is not a legal criminal offense. Not my marriage - NOT my business. I know a lot of people feel they own celebrities and politicians, but not me.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 224 (view)
 
Can you party hard like a 20yr old when you are over 30?
Posted: 2/27/2010 1:29:25 PM
Honestly, I don't think there is anything wrong with going out and having a good time, no matter what your age.

However, when you have responsibilities - kids, mortgage, bills, job - you change your priorities. You should not go out blowing every last dollar on booze, nor should you be out every weekend, all weekend, then hungover for days when you have kids.

I think it is fine to go out and have fun, but it shouldn't be your primary focus - essentially, it all comes down to priorities.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 408 (view)
 
Polyamory
Posted: 2/26/2010 5:38:02 PM

Polyamory is fun for new NSA experience and/or short relationships.
Polyamory does not work long terms because you cannot love equally 2 persons. You will love one more than the other and this will lead to issues in the long run.


Says the single man...
Guess you haven't met the poly triads, quads, etc who have been together for decades. Oh wait, in your limited view of the world, they don't exist. I'll be sure to tell them... ditto with my primary partner, with whom I have been in a poly relationship with for nearly three years.

And yes, *I* can love two people equally - I love my sons equally. I hope you never have more than one child, since you cannot see how you can love two people equally.

Romantically, I can love MORE than two equally. I feel sorry for you because your mind is so closed and so limited that you will never be able to see outside of your self-imposed box.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 84 (view)
 
Can you love someone you aren't physically attracted to?
Posted: 2/26/2010 4:44:29 PM
Yeah, it's called friendship.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 164 (view)
 
Would you be in a poly relationship
Posted: 2/26/2010 4:36:19 PM
No I would never be in a polymourous relationship. Jealousy is one of the most natural and strong feelings that arises in LTR's (and is almost unique to LTR's), so how can anyone expect there not to be jealousy issues when they have more than one people in an LTR. People in polymourous relationships are either in denial of their jealousies or they simply aren't in touch with their feelings.


Or they realize that jealousy is an indicator of a problem that needs to be faced and handled - usually insecurity, which is based on some INTERNAL issue, not an external one.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 161 (view)
 
Would you be in a poly relationship
Posted: 2/26/2010 4:29:23 PM

've been involved in "swinger" type relationships and they didn't work....


Let me spell this out for you, since you did not get it the first four hundred times it was stated here:
POLY IS NOT SWINGING.

Thank you, please return to your regularly programmed ignorance.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 160 (view)
 
Would you be in a poly relationship
Posted: 2/26/2010 4:25:33 PM

Agreed, sleeping beauty. All those irresponsible single people screwing around on and off dating sites are the real problem. All those supposedly monogamous people who cheat on their partners, and the hypocritical moralizing bible thumping preachers who do their brother's wife - those do need to be judged as wanting in the the ethical realm.

If that's not who you meant, then perhaps you should get some facts - it might prevent you from making such uninformed idiotic remarks.


Oh, but then what would ignorant fools do for fun?
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 159 (view)
 
Would you be in a poly relationship
Posted: 2/26/2010 4:22:55 PM

Never would voluntarily enter into a polyamorous lifestyle. Too bad my ex decided to enter into one....without telling me. Hence, why he is now my ex.


That is NOT a poly relationship. That is cheating. Cheating is NOT poly - it is anti-poly, to be clear.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 61 (view)
 
R*pe is ruining my sex life
Posted: 2/26/2010 4:08:55 PM
Yup, I'd have to say you need some therapy.

I have had a very similar experience - I honestly, did not have a hard time "overcoming" it. It happened. It sucked, but I refuse to be anyone's victim. I refuse to allow anyone that kind of power over me - the rape is over and that person's control of what was happening to me is OVER. After I'd healed physically, I refused to allow it to further affect my life. It didn't kill me, so, IMO, it made me stronger.

Everyone is different. For me, taking this stance worked. For you - you aren't there yet. Get some professional help.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 81 (view)
 
Cigarette smoking around kids
Posted: 2/26/2010 3:36:39 PM
Honestly?

It sucks that he doesn't give a crap about his son's health and smokes around him.

However, unless your son has asthma or another pulmonary condition, there isn't squat you can do. It's his home, his kid, and his right to smoke around him.

Selfish? Damn straight.

But, like I said, unless you have a doctor's order NOT to smoke around your child for health reasons, and then take it to court and get the court order stating that he is NOT allowed to smoke around your son and then are willing to repeatedly take him back to court over and over for contempt of that order, there is nothing you can do.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Should I stand up and fight cause I don't agree with meds for kids?Lazy parents is all!
Posted: 2/26/2010 3:26:32 PM

Why not get a 2nd opinion from a doctor you know and trust?


Or, better yet, talk to the original, prescribing doctor. You should have been at that appointment or taken the initiative to TALK to the doctor yourself instead of playing games with a medication your child is on - "getting rid of the first bottle" - what if your game playing with the medication caused a serious problem for your child? Would you even know? NO - because you did not bother to educate yourself, you just reacted in a counteraction to what your ex did. You have this child 50% of the time, according to you, so if lazy parenting is the cause of his school problems, then you are equally at fault as your ex-wife. I would suggest that you educate yourself on his form of autism (most likely Asperger's Syndrome or Pervasive Developmental Disorder) and whatever else he has been diagnosed with, talk to the doctor, talk to his teachers, and realize that perhaps it isn't all your "lazy ex-wife's" fault.

Certain medications cannot be stopped suddenly without causing a severe backlash - you could seriously injury your child because of your ignorance! You could also find yourself losing your 50% if your child really does have a problem and your ex takes you to court for noncompliance - you are treading on thin ice and if you are against the medication, then you had best have intelligent, educated, and well thought out reasons for it.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Deadbeat parents
Posted: 2/26/2010 3:14:09 PM
IMO, a deadbeat parent is one who fails to care for their child(ren) physically, emotionally, AND financially. You can be 100% on time with your support payments and still be a deadbeat if you aren't involved in your child(ren)'s life/lives.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Facebook Kills Friendship... or did something else do it?
Posted: 2/26/2010 6:03:12 AM
All I can say, OP, is YUP.

I agree - he was hoping to get something going with April - either on the side or back to what it was. The boy wanted his cake and to eat it too and your honesty killed that. Shame on you (not).

Ramon needs to grow up a bit, but that won't happen for quite some time. Ditto with April, since she essentially was just using you to get the dish on Ramon. ;)
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 99 (view)
 
Do women who engage in affairs w/married men deserve an apology?
Posted: 2/26/2010 5:58:43 AM
Well, depends. In the TW case, no. All these women knew he was married with children.

If the "other woman" did not know the man was married, then yes, they DO deserve an apology.

Ditto with gender roles reversed.

Anyone who is deceived in the actions deserves an apology.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Need advice: getting divorced with self-employed mother of my children
Posted: 2/20/2010 10:54:14 AM
Oh - and the paying her $1000 a month more than the state would require? You are screwing yourself again. Do it long enough and the state will require you to KEEP doing it. Stop it - pay her what the state would require in CS and SS/alimony. Use the $1000/mo for your kids directly.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 23 (view)
 
Need advice: getting divorced with self-employed mother of my children
Posted: 2/20/2010 10:50:42 AM
Honestly, OP - you cannot come in to court and say, "Well, she is making this, but she COULD make this" when while you were married, she was making the lesser amount. If it was alright for her to make squat while you were married, then it is alright for her to make squat now. That's the way the courts look at it. I realize that is not entirely fair in your case, but consider this:

Wife has an AS in Criminal Justice, gets a job at a hospital where she works for five years prior to marrying husband. After four years of marriage, while wife maintains same job, and one child, they get divorced. After another two years, husband demands a hearing for child support because he claims that wife is deliberately under-earning... as she has a degree in CJ, which COULD allow her to become a State Trooper earning approximately $10K more a year than the hospital job that she has now had for ten years. Never mind that in order to become a State Trooper, she would would have to attend a six month boot camp/training that would not allow her to be custodial parent of her children and she has never expressed any interest in becoming a State Trooper.
As the judge pointed out in said hearing (yes, this is a true story), the hospital job was sufficient income before he married her and all during the marriage (including the several times that the husband was unemployed), so why now suddenly was it an issue? If it was not an issue addressed and rectified prior to the separation, then is was not an issue, period.

Unfortunately, because your income allowed and *you* allowed for your wife to be under-employed throughout your marriage, you have essentially "made your bed." Understand, I agree that in your case, it is not fair - she is grossly underemployed if your post was accurate, but this seems to be a bed you have made.

 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 29 (view)
 
My kids don't need a dad . . .
Posted: 2/20/2010 10:30:30 AM

Why the hell do you even bother haunting the single parents thread, Steven, if you're so dead against who/what we are?


Cause Stevie boy has issues. He has issues that you couldn't even place in an extra large suitcase. Stevie boy here needs a whole tractor trailer and even that is pushing its limits.

See, my bet is that Stevie boy either has an ex who got sick of his psycho-rage crap, ditched him, probably got a restraining order and then forgot about him - moved on with her life, got married and had kids and Steve has NEVER GOTTEN OVER IT. Either that or Stevie boy has the hots for a single mom who has rejected him and so he's transferring all his pent up frustration and inappropriate rage over her rejection on to ALL single moms. Nothing like a man with a hard on for a woman he can't have.

So, he stalks the Single Parents forum, searching for women he can attack because he cannot admit that he has issues and go on to get help for them. Rather sad, when you think about it.
 jayderaven
Joined: 7/16/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
My kids don't need a dad . . .
Posted: 2/20/2010 10:23:10 AM
Their profiles say that shit because they must believe men really want to read that, like the popular one "my kids will always come first". Common sense should come in to play as no guy wants a women who openly tells him, he will always be last on her list and should like it or lump it.

Why even bother with single mothers in the first place, when you see permanent little walking and talking reminders of the man she screwed before you. Which is revolting but these doormat/push over guys are so desperate for a women, they loose all self respect and dignity by settling for child(ren) created by her and another guy.


Says the man prowling the Single Parents forum.... oh, wait, never mind, this man probably won't ever get laid again with an attitude like that.

Gee, mister, got a little transference issue going on? So pissed off at not getting laid that now you hate ALL women... or is it that your ex has moved on and had a family and so you hate all mothers now? Seriously, you have some MAJOR issues and should not even be attempting to date until you seek counseling and perhaps medication to deal with your anger management issues.

But of course, you can't handle this type of advice, so you will most likely spew your pointless, impotent rage all over this forum and, in a desperate attempt to "prove me wrong" make up unproveable tales of your manly prowess... and then, deeply entrenched in your denial, will continue to attempt to date and wonder what the hell is wrong with EVERY single woman you meet... so yeah, good luck with that, okay?
 
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