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 Author Thread: How to tell a woman to start paying for part of the date
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 67 (view)
 
How to tell a woman to start paying for part of the date
Posted: 11/20/2009 12:45:27 PM
Just dont ask her out anymore, if she doesn't call back, then you'll know what she was just a dinner whore.

If she does call back and says why haven't you asked her to go anywhere, tell her you were waiting for her to ask you out. If she asks you out, she pays according to the code of law that women follow, if she doesn't ask her out, dump her. Plenty of women out there - dont get fixated on just one.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 12 (view)
 
HST
Posted: 11/20/2009 12:41:43 PM
Will the HST be revenue neutral - No. Was the GST revenue netural - No. I'm sure that most people remembered that stores just tacked on the GST to the existing price, instead of keepingthe price the same. Similarly, most people would agree that they'll be paying more with the HST, unless they are small business owners who will have simpler accounting bills and will be able to write off tax expenses anyways.

To the naysayers: if the government was not going to gain a tax windfall from it, why are they trying to ram it through without public debate? If the merits of the program were so overwhelmingly positive, who would fight against it? Do you really think average citizen is anti-small business to the point of not wanting them to simply their accounting bill - why would they care?

Lastly, do you have any choice in the matter? No. Just avoid making big purchases in ontario.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 39 (view)
 
Is it worthwhile to date here?
Posted: 11/20/2009 12:19:20 PM
"isn't it safe to assume that for every (heterosexual) woman who "gets" a date, there's a man who "gets" a date also"

No. For both sexes, 80% of the people are chasing the top 20%. Meaning that for those in the 20, they can date more than one person at a time, while those in the lower bands might not date at all.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 15 (view)
 
how do you get promoted
Posted: 11/20/2009 12:17:14 PM
"It's not about shining in the position - it's about out shining the position."

I like this alot. While hard work matters, picking up the slack and not bragging about just means you get taken advantage of. I see it alot, and pretty soon the people who do this because the chumps. You need to be promoting yourself all the time - both through hardwork and through telling others with influence about it.

Cautionary note: if your boss doesn't like you or prefers someone else, get out of there. You'll never get promoted. Also, you dont want to work 110% because the company will then not want to promote you - just work 100%. Very important - remember the reverse peter principle (aka the dilbert principle)
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 36 (view)
 
Is it worthwhile to date here?
Posted: 11/19/2009 11:10:27 PM
For dating, its worth every penny that you pay. So real life should be your friend

For forums, its worth it - sometimes.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 47 (view)
 
Is the number of acceptable places to approach women offline shrinking?
Posted: 11/18/2009 12:47:29 PM
People are forgetting a whole bunch of factors that go into the equation....

1) Age: when you're young, you meet lots of unattached or adventurous people. When you get older, people are usually hitched up and/or more conservative. In either case, not good candidates

2) Location: people living in some locations are most welcoming than others. Toronto women are legendary for being stuck up (home of pua), while Montrealers are extremely open. A similar arguement could be made for urban vs. rural

3) Evolving social Expectations: it used to be gyms were meat markets, but not anymore, as people go there to work out only. At my gym, I almost burst out laughing as I see guys make this mistake continuously. I don't think there is a replacement for the bar/gym yet, but I'm thinking its meetup.com.

As a side note, I dont' think that online dating will continue to dominate as I know a lot of guys are getting turned off by it. It'll probably go the way of those chat phone lines.

3)
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 60 (view)
 
Walmart sets its sights on ruling the retail world.
Posted: 11/18/2009 9:53:59 AM
You can't go cold turkey - it just doesn't work.

The reason why the mass printing will work for the US is because China holds massive amounts of US treasury debt (around 800 billion). When the US increases the money supply, it lowers the value of the debt, meaning it puts a lot of pressure on the Chinese to comply. Also, because its more expensive for americans to import, the Chinese get less foreign currency in any trading transaction, and therefore less to lend back to the US.

The problem is inflation.....America is damned either way. Oh well - it'll be interesting to see how quickly it becomes a banana republic.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 108 (view)
 
BF will not tell me his birthdate or where he works - is this wierd to you guys?
Posted: 11/18/2009 9:44:10 AM
Its normal and understandable.

After having one nut job show up to my workplace "just to say hi", well - lets just say I don't give out that information anymore. Work and private life are to be kept separate - period.

His - b-day - maybe he's just private.

Why do you want to know this stuff?
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Walmart sets its sights on ruling the retail world.
Posted: 11/18/2009 12:48:55 AM
Look, you can't just "not buy" from China anymore, especially if you no longer have any kind of manufacturing capacity. Secondly, the cost of goods would sky rocket so high that people wouldn't be able to afford to buy anything. They need time to break the cycle.

Believe it or not, what the US is doing right now by printing incredible amounts of money is only way to pressure the Chinese to raise the yuan (by devaluing the worth of foreign held debt). By raising the yuan, china wouldn't be able to export as much to the US, and therefore gradually wean the US consumer off of chinese imports.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 313 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/16/2009 11:19:54 AM
People - stop feeding the trolls and let this thread die!!!!!

To the women who are desperately trying to keep this thread going....

If you don't like a guy's attitude to getting married, don't date him. IF that means you cant find anybody else, TAKE THE HINT AND LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT. B*tching and complaining about it is not going to change anyone's opinion on it

MOD - please close this thread
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Microsoft Lays Down The Hammer On Xbox 360 Mods.
Posted: 11/13/2009 10:57:32 AM
I dont see a problem with modding the xbox, as modding consoles as been going around for the past 20 years. As for the hardware ban, its very easy to get around and getting back onto xbox live.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 96 (view)
 
STD/Mutual Testing Questions
Posted: 11/13/2009 10:49:51 AM
This is "a to each their own argument". If you find getting asked is offensive, just dont date her then.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 82 (view)
 
STD/Mutual Testing Questions
Posted: 11/12/2009 1:33:53 PM
Getting back to the point of the thread......

Is it socially acceptable to ask your significant other to get tested: yes
Is it common: not so much

While some might consider it a sign of distrust and lack of respect, others would take it mean the exact opposite - that you respect and care enough of that person to let him/her know that you care about their health.

Secondly, testing is easy and confidential. You probably can't go together to do it as clinics often have separate testing hours based on gender.

So really people, there isnt really an excuse NOT to get it if one partner is asking for it.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 99 (view)
 
Men 35-44, are we in the sweet spot?
Posted: 11/10/2009 1:59:43 PM
Ah...my bad. I didn't realize that was sarcasm - sorry - the internet doesn't always convey the innuendos as well as the spoken voice. There seems to be a "anti-men" contingent that is proliferating on this website that goes from thread to thread bad mouthing one gender exclusively, which is really turning me off this site.

And you're right about both genders having a sweet spot!
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 97 (view)
 
Men 35-44, are we in the sweet spot?
Posted: 11/10/2009 1:26:02 PM
I know what you mean kjacks - but I must admit - it still kind of bothers me.

The attitude that the whitetigress and others like her exhibit just seems so damn common on this website - makes me wonder where all of the normal women are (other than offline...lol)
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Back to school?
Posted: 11/10/2009 1:20:38 PM
+1 on cleaning up facebook. People really don't understand how much of a drawback it is - if something is online - its public.

Might I suggest linkedin - its more professional and can lead to some powerful connections.

P.S - kendra - keep up the good work - your bro is a lucky guy!
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 256 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/10/2009 12:41:54 PM
Lol - you're making this too easy, but I'll be civil

1) stop watching the leave it to beaver reruns - both genders make breakfast/drop kids off to school/ pay bills. Its not a unisex thing - sorry to burst your bubble on that.

2) Feminazi refers to the deliberate and intentional propaganda by a branch of feminists that are only meant to demean and subjugate men. It is hateful and vile, and is just as bad as anything that the nazis did. Your thread postings pretty much hit that nail on the head.

You claim that you want the "right man" - but you seem to only want a foot stool.

Here's a hint - get a cat.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 253 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/10/2009 12:26:43 PM
That stastic is based on one report over 20 years ago (early to mid 80's), and it refers to the first year only. I should also mention that this theory was disproved in 1996 by peterson. Anyways, as soon as the women remarries/dates again, it drastically reverses, as the woman still receives payments while receiving financial support from her new beau.

Edit - for the benefit of the reader - male living standards go down overall

This link takes you to an abstract by Duke University in the United states circa 2001

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14208018

There are a wide number of other reports from around the world that basically say the same thing.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Is it just me, or has the world gone mad?
Posted: 11/10/2009 12:21:24 PM
If she said worst type of people, then I would agree with you. But instead she chose as her baseline - worst type of males. Furthermore, she implicitly reinforced this suggestion when she tied it with the feminist quest for gender equality.

So yeah - its misandry
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 250 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/10/2009 12:11:19 PM
TuffLuv,

Sigh - it seems that all I do is go from thread to thread debunking the nonsense that you seem to spout non-stop. Even in the link that you provided, the acute observer would realize just how silly it is. For example....

"And while men usually fare better financially than women in a divorce"

I've never known or heard of any man that has fared better financially than women in a divorce. Men never get support payments, and are crippled with the financial consequences of divorce for decades. In fact, people say that divorce is the biggest threat to a man's financial security.....

Secondly, you seem to be ignoring other reasons why men are depressed - perhaps the most obvious reason of them all. That they are despondent after divorce BECAUSE of these financial obligations all the while the wife is partying it up!

Thirdly, I still dont get your comment regardinly the "transition" that men are in. Urge for the hunt = building houses. Very strange point of view. I thought building houses would be more closely related to the task of building things - perhaps like wood working or - gasp - maybe even a career!

Fourthly, you still haven't responded to me in another thread about the benefits of marriage - which I take it to mean - that you agree that there is no benefit. And no, citing a non-longitudinal study from 20 years ago is evidence

Guys - many of the women posting in these kind of threads are just feminazi trolls - just ignore them and if we're lucky they'll go back under the bridge they came from
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Is it just me, or has the world gone mad?
Posted: 11/10/2009 11:43:55 AM
And when you say worst type of males - what exactly are you saying? That having casual sex is bad / amoral/ just plain evil? Talk about a classic case of misandry!
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Back to school?
Posted: 11/10/2009 7:28:36 AM
Some really bad advice here to be frank.

Some people are telling you to go into fields that are dominated by women or are incredibly saturated with cheap labour - neither of which bodes well for you.

What you want is to get into a field that is "anchored", meaning that it is less likely to be outsourced and is more recession proof. An example of this is your barber - can't be outsourced and everyone needs it even during a downturn. You also want to ignore the hype about the impending shortage of workers due to retirement - frankly they have been saying this for decades and it shouldn't be something to plan a career around. This is due to the fact that they have lifted mandatory retirement, and secondly, due to the poor saving rates of canadians. People just can't afford to retire at 65 anymore, and will probably be working till at least 75 (if not longer) Too late for you.

So my advice - go for the trades. A drywaller can make about 100,000 a year if he works hard, 80,000 if he coasts. A framer can make a pretty penny as well, but whatever it is, go blue collar. You'll earn more and if you start your own business you can pretty much write everything off as a business expense.

P.S - following your hobby is only good if your hobby is being a dentist or stock broker. While being passionate about what you do is important, you gotta be realistic. People have to want to buy your services, and mom and dad cant be your only customers.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Moving To Ontario
Posted: 11/10/2009 7:15:26 AM
He's in the trades, so he shouldn't have any problems finding work. If he was a doctor or another white collar profession, then yes, keep heading west.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 91 (view)
 
Men 35-44, are we in the sweet spot?
Posted: 11/10/2009 7:11:00 AM
You're assuming that they want to settle down.....why would they when the going is good?
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Right or Wrong? Your Take on This ...
Posted: 11/10/2009 7:05:21 AM
Nooooo.........this is what she mentioned in the first line.

"After about a week or so of chatting online, I invite him to meet me up at a friend of mines party. .... Now I know that a party/social event of this sort is perhaps not the best set-up for a first meet"

She makes it clear that this was a first meeting/date kind of thing, the bringing along someone else was just to make him feel comfortable instead of being a loser and coming to a party by himself. I'm sure it wouldn't be okay if he brought along a chick!
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Is it just me, or has the world gone mad?
Posted: 11/10/2009 6:57:03 AM
So what's the issue here?

She pretended to believe in something that she didn't so that she could get close to the guy of her dreams, and then found out that she didn't quite like it. Valuable lesson #1.

Then again, if she didn't pretend to believe in those things, she would've never been with that guy. Valuable lesson #2.

If the issue is whether or not people are being promiscuous more today than in the past, while that isn't true. Statistically speaking most people have cheated at least once in their lives (from high school onwards), and depending on who you believe, 10-25% of all kids paternity does not belong to the guy who thinks its his kid.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Right or Wrong? Your Take on This ...
Posted: 11/9/2009 11:24:02 PM
Flip it around.....

How would you feel if we went to a party together, and I drop you for your best friend?
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 25 (view)
 
Retire from looking for love on POF and now on the Forum
Posted: 11/5/2009 9:19:52 AM
Yup - i've given up looking for that love connection online for sure.....as I find real life offers better rewards in terms of quantity and quality.

Forums are good, but really, having been a long time user I can tell you that they are a pale shadow of what they used to be...
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 17 (view)
 
V.....Y?
Posted: 11/5/2009 9:15:16 AM
The original was better - they are rushing this one too much. I especially loved how they introduced the martin character - "oh yeah - by the way - I'm an alien - Cya".

But lets see if the writers get better or not.....

P.S - I hope there's not an elizabeth plot line involved......that was pretty bad last time.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 31 (view)
 
Whats wrong if you dont feel like having sex?
Posted: 11/5/2009 9:09:20 AM
This thread is a joke right?
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 55 (view)
 
no sex for 15 months
Posted: 11/5/2009 9:07:57 AM
Man - some of you people need to get it on....seriously. Anything more than a month is way too long, and if you're going beyond that point - you really need to get your ass in gear. If you dont use it, you'll lose it.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 34 (view)
 
from one dater to another: 'show me your drivers license, please'
Posted: 11/5/2009 8:53:44 AM
ID's for dating now......and people wonder why they are single????LOL
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 91 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:19:43 AM
Tuffluv: a couple of problems with that study

But perhaps the biggest problem is that the time frame is too short - only 8 to 9 years - does not make it longitudinal. What they need to do is go back now, and see the same population and determine if people really did live longer and happier. I bet with the divorce rates being the way that they are, things are drastically different now.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 45 (view)
 
Why some men never want marry?
Posted: 11/4/2009 12:50:04 PM
Umm....what are the benefits for a guy to get married? Really are there any?
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Safe dating in the internet age
Posted: 11/3/2009 11:54:29 AM
You guys are creepy.

Secondly, how much information do you expect to find online? I googled my name, my married brothers names, and 4 single friends - and got nada.

Thirdly, how can someone check out thousands of names via google - the amount of time required is staggering. Can you provide the link to show us what you mean?

Fourthly, you don't need the net to figure out someone is a faker or a pscyho. Just use your gut and trust your instincts. I know by the second or third date how a woman is going to be, and whether or not she needs to be kicked to the curb.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 62 (view)
 
Men 35-44, are we in the sweet spot?
Posted: 10/30/2009 2:32:39 PM
WOW.....glad to see that you're not being judgemental....

"Except for the really really dim ones. If their STDs don't kill them first - ya know, because they are hitting it regular ~ with all sorts of strangers ~ and too dim to protect themselves, and condom accidents do happen. Girls get drunk and forget the condom. Or, they get used by several drunk guys that don't use a condom. etc, etc.... "

Considering that she's not single, but is just on a dating site for "research", what kind of assumptions do you think we can make of you, hmm?
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 64 (view)
 
guy/girls who were cheap on date
Posted: 10/29/2009 4:47:07 PM
Buddy,

ALL women are cheap. Just accept that and get on with your life.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 20 (view)
 
People won't share or exchange pictures
Posted: 10/29/2009 4:40:03 PM
Lol - I guess nobody reads the terms of the user agreement when they sign on. I used to have several pics uploaded but I removed them for the following reason.

All pictures submitted to pof becomes the property of pof, and this means that they can use your pictures in advertisements for the website if they wanted to. Futhermore, they never delete old accounts - especially if they're women.

Just recently, there have been more than a few reports of women complaining that their "deleted" accounts are showing up as either still being active or being used in web ads. Imagine how awkward it be to explain to their future significant others why their face is plastered over the internet of them looking for hot guys....

I'm actually really surprised by the number of people that DO have their pics up. I think its safer to just send the pics afterwords via a third party - such as hotmail.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 103 (view)
 
Wouldn't ordinarily do this... Maxim mag/porn accusations etc
Posted: 10/29/2009 11:49:00 AM
dump the drama queen
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 17 (view)
 
looking for intimate encounters on pof
Posted: 10/29/2009 11:47:12 AM
Or you can do what several women do and create another profile.

Also, be wary of people who are claiming to want Intimate ecounters, as it is often a advertising/screening tool used by many women, which was very popular back when they had visible favourites. What they did was put down IE first, wait unitl they garnered enough publicity, then switch to long term. This would garner them the most attention while preventing those people who did e-mail them earlier from contacting them in the future.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Does exactly what it says on the tin? hmmm doubtful!
Posted: 10/29/2009 8:25:38 AM
Why is it that after having read the OP's message, I knew immediatly what type of woman she would be without ever having to open up her profile page (ie post 40 years, divorced, etc)? I now know what some of my older friends are talking about....
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Men 35-44, are we in the sweet spot?
Posted: 10/26/2009 10:19:22 PM
I think the article is right and wrong.

I definitely agree that the early 22-27 year olds really go after you for the aura of sophistication that you can bring to the relationship and the little tidbits of freedom that you can offer. In the past year, I've dated a few and these were definitely some perks that they enjoyed (especially since most lived with their parents).

I'm not quite sure about the older women bit - many here in Toronto seem overly conservative, but then again - I'm only in my early 30's and maybe things change as one gets older. Even in the cougar bars, they seem to gravitate towards older men. Shame really.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 3 (view)
 
How to end a FWB relationship that is soooo good
Posted: 10/26/2009 10:03:33 PM
1) yes its healthy. 11 years is not a big difference, and you're both consenting adults. Kudos to you for taking the plunge

2) 5 months is not really a long time

3) why ruin a good thing. If the situation is good right now, aren't you afraid that you might scare him off by rushing him into something he's not ready for? Are you willing to take that risk? IF so, then talk to him, but dont say I didn't tell you
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 295 (view)
 
love and weight gain
Posted: 10/19/2009 11:51:26 PM
I probably would leave as well....weight gain to the point of obesity is a sign that you dont respect yourself to exercise or eat right. If somebody doesn't love themselves, how can they possibly love me?

And to the people that are chastising the guy because he's upset about his 22 year old daughter being 350 pounds - what the hell is wrong with you? The life expectancy of someone who is morbidly obese is next to nothing, and NOT doing something to prolong the life of your child is criminal. Especially considering that the early death is entirely preventable. This is a case of political correctness just being lethal.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 72 (view)
 
I need some advice from survivors of childhood abuse for better relationship with guys
Posted: 10/19/2009 4:28:22 PM
Missmewsic: that is your opinion and no doubt the horde of cats you live with would agree with you. But my statement was pretty spot on - despite her "spirituality" she still has problems that need to be addressed before going out in to the dating world.

Then again, after looking at your profile - I can understand that you are in the same boat as the OP. Considering that you justaposition such as hobbies as target practice and psychology along with this little tidbit of a redflag in the something about you section:

IMPORTANT BULLETIN:
UNCOOL (+ DANGEROUS?) TO POST WITH YOUR KIDS ON THIS SITE WHERE POTENTIAL PREDATORS LURK. KIDS SHOULD NOT BE USED AS SALES TOOLS TO MARKET YOURSELF. PLEASE PETITION POF TO CHANGE THEIR POLICY ON POSTINGS WITH CHILDREN TO AT LEAST MASK OUT THEIR FACES IF POSTED. FOR WIDER COVERAGE OF THIS MESSAGE, PLEASE COPY & PASTE INTO YOUR OWN PROFILE. THANKS

Makes one wonder - perhaps you should also include fear mongering as one of your hobbies.....
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 64 (view)
 
I need some advice from survivors of childhood abuse for better relationship with guys
Posted: 10/19/2009 2:04:39 PM
Wow - third thread today about sex abuse/rape, etc, etc.....

Look, the OP needs to seek professional treatment. Yes, she saw one shrink in the past but it didn't do much, but maybe that's because she wasn't in the right mind set to get help. You only be helped if you want to.

Maybe trying seeking help again before getting on a dating site. It's not fair to the guys to bring this kind of baggage, and you're really damaged goods until you've resolved your deep seated psychological issues. Really - just get your sh*t together.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 100 (view)
 
Fear of Date Rape.....
Posted: 10/19/2009 1:59:48 PM
If you're that afraid of getting raped by every man including the mailman, maybe you need to seek treatment instead of being on a dating site.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Who Really is in Charge of Russia?
Posted: 10/19/2009 11:08:42 AM
putin is the man pulling the strings...
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 15 (view)
 
is it acceptable to hide certain things?
Posted: 10/18/2009 12:17:16 PM
Small fibs are no big deal....as they don't fundamentally change the relationship. Obviously, if they are bigger things such as physical disability, went through a sex change, etc, than that should be pretty much upfront.
 sexyfunguy
Joined: 4/9/2005
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Am I to assume...
Posted: 10/18/2009 12:15:03 PM
Op: nobody is forcing you to stay on the site, you can leave any time. My only suggestion is that you stay for the forums....as they are the best thing about the site.
 
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