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They did it with the ex, so why not with you? Srsly Srs Posted: 7/4/2008 8:41:01 PM
Ladies What if a guy's past included cheating on every girl he had ever been with? Now all of sudden the rules change don't they? Now all of a sudden what a person did in the past matters, doesn't it? I say, if you can't handle the answers, don't ask the questions. Sometimes there are things about someone's past that people really want to know. That might include their sexual history. I never ask woman about her sexual history, because I don't think it's wise to open up that can of worms. If she asks me about mine, I try not to go there. I feel that lot of women will prey upon my open attitude and my honesty and they will dig for details. My experience has been, that women rarely tell the whole truth when I get into this type of a conversation. All this does is get my mind working. I start thinking and figuring out all the holes in her stories. Then I start to dig for more information and I usually find there is much more information that they left out. Then I get mad, not because of the details, but because women often expect absolute honesty, but often fail to deliver the same in return. They are afraid of how I might view them if they told the whole truth, so they feel it's OK to toss out a few minor details and omit the parts that might make them look bad. So, then I ask "Well why in the hell did you bring it up in the first place?" "Don't ask a queston that you aren't willing to answer yourself" I'm not saying that all women are guilty of this, but it's happened a lot. It seems like a common practice among women. They ask many types of questions. They expect total honesty and offer only half truths in return when I ask them the same questions. It's a big annoying game, that I would rather not play at all.

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They did it with the ex, so why not with you? Srsly Srs Posted: 7/4/2008 1:52:39 AM
Chasing Amy As a guy, I'm here to help the OP out a little bit. This may be a bit a Mars vs Venus thing because the women don't seem to get where you are coming from. Yes, this is a common issue to some men. It's so common that Kevin Smith wrote a moderately successful film script about it. It's called Chasing Amy. It's a movie about a guy (Holden McNeil) who falls in love with a lesbian (Alyssa), but later learns that she had slept with many men, before becoming a lesbian. Holden thinks the only way for them to be on equal footing sexually is to have a threesome together. His suggestion crushes the Alyssa's heart, because she is risking her lesbian lifestyle and all her friends to be with only with Holden. In the film, another character, (Silent Bob) tries to help Holden by telling him a story about his ex girlfriend Amy, whom he lost over the same issue. Silent Bob's girlfriend was vastly more sexually experienced than he was. Bob's male ego could not take the blow that his girlfriend had done more sexually than he had. It also bothered him that she was willing to to do things with others in her past, but not with him. She told him that now she wanted more than just a physical experience with various women or guys. She wanted monogamous love and didn't want to share him with anyone else. Silent Bob regretted his mistake. He couldn't put aside his male ego and see that she only wanted him. Silent Bob lost the girl. He spent the rest of his life looking for a girl as good as Amy. He was forever Chasing Amy. This is definitley a guy type of issue. Kevin Smith based the film on his real relationship with the female star of the film Joey Lauren Adams. I have heard similar discussions among men several times on the same subject. It's not that a guy wants to use a woman's past as a bargaining chip to get his freak on. It has to do with the sometimes fragile and competitive male ego and some men's need to feel like they are best or the most desireable or the most virile. I don't have this issue, because I strive to be my personal best and don't compare myself to other lovers. But I've had this discussion with guys and I understand that it bothers many of them. Sometimes women offer this information, sometimes men dig for it. Listing past sexual experiences is a highly risky topic at best. So, no OP, you are not alone in this question. Hell, they made a hit, indie film about it starring Ben Afflick and Jason Lee.

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Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 6:02:13 AM
I'm not even sure how the subject of Alpha males ended up on this thread. That just takes me back to my earlier posts and posts by other people who stated that the classic cave man image is wrong anyway. Earlier societies were very communal and women shared roles and positions. Many women were revered religious leaders and some anthropologists believe there are artifacts that pointed to Godess worship as early as Paeleolithic ("caveman") times. I guess guys like to compare themselves to cavemen and wolves or apes or lions, but truth be told, the human "Alpha male" came along later than "caveman" times. I'd like to think of myself as more evolved than a wolf or a lion or an ape. Maybe I am more like a real cave man, because I don't mind if a woman "hunts" beside me.

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Expain the phrase My children are my top priority? Posted: 6/30/2008 2:49:53 AM
Several possibilities, 1-It's not true but he says it in order to make himself look good 2-He's building in an escape clause for any contacts that come his way 3-Be warned, he has no concept of different loves for different people and he's making sure you realise that you will always be second, and frankly, if a guy does this even before he's met someone, I take it as a red flag. 4-And this is most likely, he's just not ready for a committed relationship, apart from that with his kids, see point 2. Hmm, spoken like a woman who has no children. Sounds a bit man haterish (yeah, it's a technical term). There are several possibilities, but you only covered the negative ones. Talk about red flags. How about this for a reason? He's dated a few women who don't have kids and they don't seem to understand that there are a lot of soccer or baseball or basketball games to go to, there school plays, parent teachers nights, halloween nights, zoos and parks and kid's movies to go to and homework they need help with and an exwife that must be spoken to on a regular basis. It's just part of being a parent. It doesn't mean you can't love anyone or don't have time for them, but they have to understand what an integral part of your life your children are. After arguing this point with several women who claimed they understood this, maybe the guy feels he should just say it up front and save everybody some time. I don't have any kids at home right now, so I wouldn't make that statement that my kids are my life, but there was certainly a time when that was true. I'd say if someone truly requires someone's total and complete attention all the time, they shouldn't date someone with kids. My kids are not an escape clause, they are my family whom I love. Most people have family members whom they love and want to be around. If I saw a woman's profile that read, "I have a big family and close friends that I love to be around", I would think "Good, we all need support and love". I wouldn't think "Ah ha! she's telling me I'll always be second" or "She can't commit to me because she loves her Mom and Dad and her best friend too much". Let her love them. I'm not that greedy

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The instant chemistry demand Posted: 6/30/2008 1:33:50 AM
I had instant attraction and chemistry with both of my wives. Unfortunatley they had the same thing for the guys they met while we were still married. Later, they both divorced these guys and found that same instant chemisty with other men. My first wife is on her third unstable marriage and my second wife has now been divorced four times. I'll take my time. I'm a very patient man. You can have your instant chemistry. There is a term that I've liked for many years. "Too hot not to cool down". I hope that I'm lucky enough to be 70 years old some day, with a 20 year relationship behind me. I seriously doubt that instant chemistry and thinking she was hot within the first five minutes, will have been the thing that kept us together for twenty years. Compatibility, loyalty, compassion, honesty, communication, romance and many other words come to mind, none of which can be determined within five minutes. I think instant chemistry has very little to do sustaining a longterm relationship. I can think of a few women right now that I would marry in a second if the circumstances were different. When I met them, they were OK in my eyes. After getting to know their personalites over many months, they were truly beautiful people to me.

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Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/30/2008 12:42:48 AM
I would be careful when siting Wikipedia as a source for anything. Wikipedia is a peer based resource. Nothing is validated or verified. It's a user based resource. It's sort of like asking a well read friend a question and then using his information to write a paper. I only use Wikipedia as a jumping off point. I use key words found in Wiki articles to locate published papers written by legitimate resources, such as university professors, research scientists, and information found in historical libraries and archives. I don't mean I do this to write papers either. I do this to be sure that I know what I'm talking about when I quote something as a fact. It doesn't take as long as it sounds like, just a few extra minutes if you do it a lot and you know how to look for things. Wiki is a lazy man's way to research something and might garner you an F in any decent college course. Wiki is OK if you know nothing about a subject, but I also see it as a quick way for people in chat rooms and blogs to appear smart or well read. No offense intended, but when someone quotes Wikipedia, to me it's like saying, "My smart friend john reads a lot and he says that in 1893...blah blah blah".

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How Many Men Out There Can Actually Cum Orally? Posted: 6/28/2008 3:15:55 AM
You wan tips and secrets? OK, here goes. Don't be mad, it's only one man's opinion. I believe I have had the best in my life so far. Maybe the best ever. It was painful to let her go, but sadly, I didn't love her, so it was the right thing to do. I knew that I may never find a woman as skilled as her, but I hate to take advantage of a woman who cares about me. Details: For starters, she seemed to love her craft. She really enjoyed doing it thoroughly. Oddly enough she did not swallow, but she was absolutley a finisher. She would take it all the way to the end and whatever was left over, she would very quietly dispose of into a towel which she kept nearby. I would never know the difference, because by then, I was wiped off the face of the planet. Stamina was a big factor. We would lock into a 69 position for almost 90 minutes straight without a break. She would not give up until the magic happened. Depth was a major factor. She could take it all the way to the base and just stay there. I could hear her controlling her breathing and her gag reflex. She would stick her tongue out, go all the way down, lap the boys with her tongue and lower lip, hang there at the bottom for a long time and then come all the way back up. A lot of spit was a key factor. She always had a glass of water nearby, to keep her mouth lubricated. Very little use of hands was required. She was all about the mouth, the tongue and the deep throat action and controlled breathing to acheive long , lingering depth. When she felt me getting close, she would really step up the pace and if I helped her with my hands on her head, it only encouraged her to go faster and deeper. She never got mad if I helped her. She just got more excited. Best ever! No woman has come all very close to her. I don't base my happiness entirely on sexual skill, so I don't judge other women based on her skills. If I love a woman, that is a huge deal to me. But, somebody asked what makes oral good, so I offered a few tips that I saw from an absolute oral Queen in action.

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Sugardaddy offer Posted: 6/28/2008 2:12:09 AM
I had a sugar momma offer once, I dated this woman a few times. Nice lady, She had a masters in business, over a 100K a year. Went on to get a law degree and start her own law firm in Monterey California. Now she makes a lot of money. I always thought she was teasing me, the way she talked to me. We stayed phone and email friends forever. One day she broke it down and said that it was all real. she would marry me and I wouldn't have to work. I tried to let her down in the nicest way I could think of. I didn't tell her that there was no spark and aI wasn't that attracted to her. She got me a little drunk and threw herself at me the few times that we dated. I guess I left an impression. Ever since the conversation where I politley declined, she IMs me, but she keeps her distance. She wanted me to spend the weekend in her beach house, but I didn't want to take advantage of her, because our thing was more like a few dates, a sexual fling and then years of phone and email friendship. I think I hurt her feelings, but I'm not a user. It's one thing when you give into a woman who's encouraging you to drink and tearing your clothes off. It's another thing when you know she wants a relationship and wants to take care of you and marry you. Part of me says "Go for it! How many women have you put first and how many want to put you first?" The other part of me says, "This is a person, with feelings, no matter how sweet the set up is, you have to be nice and think of other people first." So, I say "No" and she thinks I'm kind of a jerk. I guess.

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Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/27/2008 12:46:53 PM
Just for the record, Cavemen exsisted in the Palaeolithic era, not the Neolithic era. This discussion centers around a "caveman" analogy. Some of us are trying to set the record straight, that "cavemen" societies were not particularly male dominated. They shared responsibilities and status more equally and the vast majority of these early cultures worshiped some form of Earth Mother or Godess. We should stick to the correct term for this time period which was the Palaeolithic era, not the Neolithic era. While the Neolitic era is considered the end of the stone age, only Homo Sapiens existed in the Neolithic era. They lived almost exclusively in shelters that they built for themselves. They hunted, farmed, herded animals and later began using metal tools. The Neolitic era is not the period that most people have in mind when they use the term "caveman". When most people toss around the term "caveman", they are usually thinking of some part of the Palaeolithic era, when several forms of humans, including Neanderthals and Homo Erectus existed and later coexisted with Homo Sapiens for thousands of years. They lived in caves and and also huts and skin dwellings. The arts of working and knapping stone tools, painting and ritualized burials were all developed in the Palaeolithic era. The classic "caveman" image is more in line with the Palaeolithic time period. I know, Just what we needed, more useless information.

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am I good luck chuck Posted: 6/26/2008 7:01:25 PM
I agree with many of the posters on this thread. I have worn your shoes probably more times than you have. I call myself a "transitional man". I think you wear the role with a bit of pride like I do. There is a certain degree of fullfilment that come from being remembered by women as one of the best guys they ever met. You know you have impacted them greatly and often times you become sort of a template for the type of guy they want to marry. My guess is that like me, ( I am trying to change this) you keep these women at a certain distance, probably because you were hurt a few times yourself. Either intentionally or unintentionally, you are sending the message that you are not completely available to them for the long term. You are there as a friend and a lover , but not a life mate. So, they take the healing you have to offer and they move on. When you are completely ready for a long term relationship and ready to proceed without fear, they will see this and they will try to make a go of it with you.

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Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/26/2008 6:42:25 PM
Correction on my earlier comment: Many Anthropologists today are debunking the myth of male dominated stone age societies, not Archeologists. Atlhough it is largely the work of archeologists that helped anthropologists to reach this conclusion.

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Cave man days, bring'em back Posted: 6/26/2008 12:44:21 AM
Many archeologists today are deconstructing the old myth of paleolithic society as a male dominated culture. It is believed that women hunted along side men among Neanderthals and other stone age people . It is believed by many, that male, female segregation of roles and duties did not come about until later on in the iron age, when there were larger populations. That's when males began hunt in exlusively male packs with iron tipped weapons. "Strict gender segregation of work is a product of large populations and specialized work," "Where populations are small and work is large, people do it together. People can't afford to have the attitude of 'No, no, that's not my work.'" This means that in early stone age societies, men and women shared duties more equally, therefore women may have had more equal roles and may have had more say in whom they selected for a mate. There are plenty of examples of male dominated societies, where men took what they wanted and kept women in subjection, they just may not have existed in the stone age or "cave man times". Just a little FYI

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How Many Men Out There Can Actually Cum Orally? Posted: 6/25/2008 3:26:30 AM
Hmm, hard to relate to this one. I've never had that problem. Maybe it's because that I'm so concerned with pleasing a woman and lasting as long as I can, that I've sort of trained myself to cum only on command. If they don't want me to cum and they want it to last for a long time, then it's just not going to happen. If they seem to be pretty satisfied or tired and they ask me to let go, then I can usually let go. For me, it's more of a mental conditioning thing. I make it a point to tell a woman, "Don't say you want it, unless you are done". "When you are done, then let me know and I will cum whenever you want me to". Anyway, I think it's good to set yourself up like this and condition yourself mentally. I'd like to believe that I could last as long as a woman wanted me to or I could cum as soon as she said I could, regardless of what she was doing to me. Hell, she could be slapping me with a telephone book and I would just say "Ok, you said I could cum", "Now, open that book up to the plumbing section, because this pipe is gonna bust soon!".

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/23/2008 11:58:36 AM
I was talking about the difference between women thinking that guys are completely lead around by their members and don't have the slightest romantic or tender thoughts in their heads . I was comparing that idea to the times in my life that I did follow my member. I was suggesting that it isn't quite as simple as thinking with the little head right from the start. There could be romance and tenderness and affection at first, even when the situation was more of a physical attraction, but at some point the litte head takes over and that's usually when I end up seeing the wrong person. I'm saying there is a subtle difference between mindlessly following you sexual impulses and having romantic, affectionate feelings that give way to mindlessly following your impulses. Although both ways lead to poor decision making . I just don't think it's fair to say that guys blindly follow their little heads, when it may not start out that way. I think many women are guilty of making the same mistake at times. They are very physically attracted to a man. There is romance, but it's mostly a physical attraction, then they try to build a relationship out of that and it doesn't work. No, I never tell women I want to bang them, but the few times in my life when I wasn't looking for a relationship, I always made that clear to a woman before I did anything with her. I have made love to women and I have banged women. I think people who claim never to have done both are basically full of it or they are fooling themselves. At least I'm honest about it.

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Does this sound weird to anybody else? Posted: 6/22/2008 3:55:01 PM
Hey, I resent that comment. It just so happens that my name is actually Joe Schmoe and I don't like being associated with this particular situation. OK, so I have been named in three missing person reports and I am still legally married to women in five different states, but that's beside the point. I have nothing to do with this incident and I would appreciate it if my name were kept out of this. Seriously, I agree with an earlier poster who said the OP had made up her mind already. I don't think the OP will change her mind unless this guy shows up at her house with his other woman and wants to move her in and asks the OP if she can cook them all a decent breakfast. "Oh and by the way, my common law wife likes her bacon crispy and can you bring her the newspaper? She 's looking for a job. Thanks honey!"

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Does this sound weird to anybody else? Posted: 6/22/2008 1:55:23 PM
I would double check on the guy with the same name who lives in Halifax. Make sure that this fact is verified by you, on your own and is not just something your boyfriend has said. You should easily be able to locate this guy's phone number and address on your own, without any help from your boyfriend. Once these questions have entered your mind as to the honesty of your boyfriend, you can't simply rely on explanations from him. You have to check these things out for yourself. I'm sure there are many women who believe they have settled something by asking the guy a question and getting a plausible answer from him. But from my experience, you need to dig a little deeper and don't allow them to make you feel like you are acting foolish and jealous. If a guy says, "You are being riddiculous, that girl I hugged is my cousin. Then you have to go further and "say, fine give me her number, I'd love to have lunch with your cousin." I know this sounds like a no brainer and maybe you have checked on every fact he told you, but a lot of women don't check. They get an answer that seems OK and they just accept it as fact.

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/22/2008 1:57:18 AM
I don't buy into the whole, thinking with the little head thing. It's not quite that simple. Usually I am captured by a pretty face, a woman with a beautiful smile, a beautiful face, pretty eyes and beautiful lips. I'm not thinking "Man, I want to bang her" or anything so directtly connected to the little head. It's more like , My God she's beautiful. I would love to kiss those lips and look into those eyes. Then maybe later at some point, after we get close to each other and start making out, that's where the little head kicks in and I transition to, "Man I want to bang her!" I know that is a subtle difference to a woman, but to me, it's a big difference.

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When is dancing considered/not considered flirting? Posted: 6/22/2008 1:11:50 AM
I agree with some of the posters. She wants to dance, then you dance too. Dance with anything and everything that moves. Grind your pelvis into all of them like you are trying to crush pepper. dance with her friends, her sisters, her cousins and her Mom. Dance with women you know and dance with total strangers. Just keep repeating this to her over and over like you're chanting. "Hey, It's only dancing, what's the big deal.?" It's only dancing!" Grind them. Grind them all. Dry hump them into oblivion. Afterall, "It's only dancing!" This is only a suggestion. I take no responsibility for what happens afterwards.

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Sugardaddy offer Posted: 6/20/2008 5:11:10 PM
This is just terrible. I can't believe these guys are offering to be Sugar Daddys. Do you have any idea how many empty calories there are in sugar? This just awful. So, if any of you ladies need a Splenda Daddy, please let me know. I'm available

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/20/2008 4:56:20 PM
I'm going to cut the women a little slack here, because I have to admit that I was very physically attracted to my both of my exwives and I didn't really slow down to see how they were on the inside. Now I would not classify them as bad girls, but they had self esteem issues that lead them to seeking attention from other men. One of them even had even done it in the past to someone else. So, I can understand being so attracted by the physical chemistry you have with a person, that you're willing to overlook a huge red flag and believe someone when they cry and say they've learned from their past mistakes. I guess what I'm saying is, that guys also chase after women they are highly attracted to and fail to see that those women are really bad for them. I try very hard not to do that now. As I get older, I find that the old date killer, "She's got a great personality" is becoming more and more attractive to me. Both of my exes were pretty attractive women and I used to hear that line from guys, "How did you get her?" I've met some women who weren't as attractive as my exes in the classical sense, but to me they were so much more beautiful on the inside that overall they were very pretty to me. I wouldn't hesitate to date a woman whom I thought to be moderately attractive or plain, who made me laugh my butt off, instead of some stunning woman who didn't have a whole lot to say. I wouldn't even have to think about it, because I know, the more I'm around someone I have a great connection with , the better they will look to me as time goes by.

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Does this sound weird to anybody else? Posted: 6/20/2008 12:49:13 PM
Hmm, why can't I be like Ninja and just keep it short and sweet? I had to write two long posts to say the same thing. One post givng my credentials for why I'm such an expert on cheaters and a second post detailng some of the many signs to look for when somebody is cheating. I could have just said it straight out. He's cheating on you! Wow! That was easy! Maybe I'll turn over a new leaf and stop writing such long, drawn out posts that nobody reads......... Nah!!!

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/20/2008 12:30:01 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw a post that questioned the dubious notion that us nice guys are somehow enablers and if we would stop hanging out with jerks, women wouldn't fall for them games anymore. It was good to see that somebody else thought that idea was full of holes, but the post disappeared. I don't hang out with guys like that anymore. That was a long time ago . I'm sure that as soon as he moved away and I lost contact with him, he immediately stopped meeting women, because women are only attracted to bad boys who have nice friends, right? Ha ha! My story about meeting those women at the beach was an isolated incident. My exroomate didn't have sex with 55 women in nine months, because I was such a nice guy, wing man. I'm pretty sure it was his good looks and his "I want to F*** you right now ", vibe that he was constantly putting out, that did the trick. If nice guys had the power to schmooze scores of women into sleeping with his friends, don't you think that even a nice guy would be tempted to harness such a power and use it on himself once in a while? After all, we are only human.

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Does this sound weird to anybody else? Posted: 6/20/2008 4:41:31 AM
Well at least you know I'm not cheating with a secretary. Damn, I made a lot of typos in my post. At least my thoughts and reasoning are clear. You have to trust someone, until it you reach your limit of making excuses for them and stretching logic to match their tall tales. Eventually you will come to your own conclusions of why they were so late all the time and smelling like cologne or perfume or smoke? Why is is that they stopped calling you from work as often? Why don't they ever seem to pick up the phone when they are working late? Who has company meetings at 8:00PM, when there should only be a few late birds left at work? Why were they so cold when all they did was drive home from the office? (making out while leaning against a car or sitting in a car in the winter with the heater off) Why are they buying all these new clothes all of a sudden and the sexy underwear count seems to be growing every week? Why are they waxing or shaving things they havent waxed or shaven for quite while, or ever? Why do they look like they just had a makeover recently? Why is their cell phone turned off or unable to get service or going straight to voicemail more than usual? Who are all these NEW "girlfriends" or "work buddies" that are now supposedly taking them to baseball games or going out together as groups from work. What did they do, hire a whole new crew of people at work? How come work never sent them on a weekend training seminar before? Why are they just so incredibly busy all of a sudden and yet seemingly disinterested in you, when they should be happy to finally see you for a little while? There is no need to panic. One or two little things means nothing, but these little things will slowly start to pile up and you will know when someone is cheating on you.

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Does this sound weird to anybody else? Posted: 6/20/2008 3:57:01 AM
Well, I was cheated on in two marriages, so I know a few things about the subject. I don't know this guy, only some of his behavior. Based on my experience, I would say he's definitely got some other women around. His Dad may even be covering for him. Who knows, maybe he even learned this beavior from Dad. I'm just speculating like most peopl on this post. One big mistake that I see here is when people assume that people can't have other people on the side, because they just don't have time. For example the idea that he couldn't have a wife, because she would have reported him missing a long time ago. The OP is thinking how could he have a wife when he spent so much time with me. Many people use this same argument to dismiss the notion that their spouse id cheating. "How could she cheat? she doesn't have time, between work and the kids and being home with me in bed every night." Having been through this twice, trust me, they can find the time. They can meet people for nooners on they lunch hours. They can stop by a bar on the way home, have a drink, make out a little, play some grab ass in the car, all in the space of an hout or 90 minutes. Then they might have sometime on those "weekend work days" or those "overtime" hours or time spent with buddies or friends to sneak in some fun. Unless you have their time sheets pinned to your wall or make a habit of calling all their friends, you'll never know. Have you ever heard of guys who have lived double lives and had two families? They find the time. Some guys play in bowling leagues and some guys say they play in bowling leauges and have girlfriends on the side. That is their hobby. I'm not saying people should be suspicious freaks. I know all this stuff, but I give women a lot of slack. I can't live in mistrust jealousy and fear, but once the facts begin to pile up and they become hard to ignore, then it's time to wake up and start checking into some of the things you are being told. If things seem ok, then you let it go. If things seem fishy then you keep looking for answers until you are sure one way or the other.

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/20/2008 3:14:31 AM
I gotta go with Nathan on this one boomer girl. That wouldn't work. Badboys don't need much help, because so many women want them, that the'll do fine on their own. Most of the time when I went out with my ex roomate, I was invisible anyway. My other roomate and I used to say, "Oh he wants us to go out with him? Wait, let's go get our invisble cloaks on". I got very use to women coming up and talking to me or buying me a drink, knowing full well they were just trying to get the low down on my ex roomate. I thought it was kind of rude, to kiss up and flirt with me just to meet my friend, so sometimes I played with them. I would stretch the conversation way out and keep redirecting it back to me and what I was all about, knowing full well they were just trying to ask about him. I figured hey, if women are going to flirt and speak with me just to meet my friend, they were going to have to work at using me. I didn't have to make it too easy. I would say something like, "Well if you buy me another drink, I'll tell you all about him". I was easily amused back in my celibate phase days. I had to do something with all that pent up energy. Having a room next to that guy every night was like living next to the Carnegie Hall of sex. There was basically an orchestra of finely tuned ooohs and aahhhs coming out of his room almost every night. I hated every minute of it. I could only stand to listen to it for ummm.... uhh... a few hours, before I would umm... go to sleep, yeah... that's it, I would just go right to sleep, uh huh, just right to sleep, that's what I did.

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Why Lie!? Posted: 6/19/2008 11:24:43 AM
The average date is getting fatter. American people continue to get fatter, due to poor diets (fast food) and lack of excersize. The average weight for American men and women continues to increase. It takes years for health studies to be compiled and published and they the lager health orginizations don't do these studies every year, so the "average weight" of men and women always lags behind the size of our ever increasing body weights as a people. I believe the latest larger studies were done in around 2002. At that time, this was the average for men and women 20 years and older. I rounded the heights to the nearest quater inch. Average Male Height 5'-9 1/4" tall. Average Male Weight 190 Pounds Average waist size 39 inches Average Female Height 5'-3 3/4" tall. Average Female Weight 163 Pounds Average Female waist size 36.5 inches Women's clothing sizes are all over the map, between different clothing makers and styles from around the world. I no longer understand women's sizes, so I have no clue what the average dress size would be for a woman of this height and weight.

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/18/2008 3:43:57 AM
Boomer girl, I would like to think the women who go after guys like this are in the minority, because that means that they really want to meet guys like me. Sadly enough there were more than a few women who would walk up to me, to strike up conversations with me in order to ask me who my friend was. I remember very clearly, one time we were at a beach and I started talking with these nice looking young women. We joked and laughed and talked and drank wine coolers for a couple hours. My roomate , Larry (The Player), talked a little bit, but mostly smiled and gave his little looks to the girls. When they left, he quickly said a couple of words and got a phone number. A week later he was out on a date with one of the girls. The other girl from the beach called the house. She was frantic that her friend had not called her back to check in. I calmed her down and told her that her friend was fine. (Larry wouldn't hurt her, he might make her sore, but he wouldn't hurt her). Anyway, when they returned home I told them about the phone call. Larry asked his date why she felt that she needed her friend to call and check up on her. She answered, "Well, I barely know you, for all I know you could be an axe murderer". Larry replied, "Then why did you go out with me?" The girl quickly pointed to me and said, "Because, I talked to him for hours and he was funny and he was a really nice guy." The moral of this story? A woman will date a good looking, bad boy, player and potential axe murderer, as long as he hangs out with nice guys, whom she would never date.

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/17/2008 12:40:18 PM
Mermaid, Bad boys get what they want, because women let them. Yeah, this was a very long time ago, many years have gone by. I don't know where he is or what he is doing at this point. I never really envied him. I was actually in one of my celibacy modes that I have done over the years. So, I wasn't dating or having sex with anyone at that time. I was in one of my healing modes, spending time working on personal growth. I wasn't trying to learn anything from him about meeting women. I was more interested in examining the dynamics of attraction, animal magnetism, flirting and the whole "bad boy" thing and how it works. I had lengthy discussion with him about what he did and how it all worked. I never used any of what he told me. I'm far too open and honest to be like him. I reveal my flaws. I don't hide myself. I lay it all out there. He really knew what he was doing. He didn't just stand there and use his looks. There was a lot more to it than that. He had strategies. The whole thing was kind of a physchological game, with specific battle plans on how to meet women, get in close and get them into bed. One of his main philosophies was to give women just enough information about himself to keep them interested. Never reveal too much about yourself. Remain a mystery to them. Never show your flaws. Women want the man of their dreams and their fantasy man. If they don't know who you really are, they will fill in the blanks. They will see you as the fantasy man that they want you to be, because they don't know enough about you to realize that you are just a regular guy. They will leave the nice, regular guys, who treat them well, as they run off to chase their fanatasy, mystery man. They will eventually figure out that you are not prince charming, but by then you will have already had sex with them a bunch of times. He said he envied how easily I can talk to women and how honest and open and revealing I am with women, but he said, you'll never get laid with that approach. He is right in a way. My way leads to one on one relationships and strong friendships. His way lead to massive amounts of sex with just about any woman who caught his eye. Women should take note. Guys who are having scoring with large numbers of women like this guy was, it doesn't just happen by chance. They are running a game and it works almost perfectly and women eat it up. They love it! At least half of them knew he was a ladies man. They just had no idea how bad their bad boy really was. He was banging scores of women from at least six different cities.

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/17/2008 2:54:45 AM
reality-- Of course it's a guy who doesn't believe my story. It was the same way when my other roomate and I used to tell our buddies about our roomate. They never believed it until they went out with the guy and saw how easily he picked up good looking women. The funny thing is, he didn't believe me either. I had to start counting them to convince him about how many women he had. My other roomate and I were giving him crap the day that he had three women in the same day and we guessed how many women he had brought into his room over nine months. I had a pretty good idea of how many there were. My room was right next to his, plus I stayed at home a lot during that time, so I fielded a lot of his calls. The three of us finally started counting and discussing all the girls. We came up with fifty and then I reminded him about the girls I saw him leave bars with, who never came to the house. Our final guess was somewhere around 55 women in 9 months and he slept wth all of them. If you factor in all the repeat performances that he gave, he basically had sex with about 5 different women every week and added about 1.4 new women every week to his little black book. Most of the women were in their mid to late twenties. It was very interesting to watch a true master player at work. We had a lot of discussions about how he worked his craft and what his women thought. I remember too many things to discuss here. One thing that used to make me laugh was a thing I called, "The turn around". Some girl would call, whom he hadn't called in a month or so. I would hear him on the phone saying, "Why didn't I call? I thought you didn't like me anymore". He would have them apologizing to him, because he didn't call, because he was too busy having sex with 3 women in one day or 6 in a week. Some women love jerks. I am sure of that.

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Why do women like Jerks Posted: 6/16/2008 1:50:57 PM
What I learned from having a true player for a roomate. I had a roomate years ago. He lived with me for nine months and slept with well over 50 different women during that time, having as many as 3 different women in one day. Women often called the house and asked me questions, trying to find out more about him. I mostly just listened to them. I tried to stay neutral and just listen and learn. I didn't reveal details about my roomate's personal life, nor did I tell him that they were asking probing questions about him. I often asked them the same two questions, being careful not to reveal my roomates business to them. It was sort of a personal survey. 1. (me) "What about the guy?" (women) "What guy?" (Me) "The guy you were seeing the day before you met my roomate, Larry". (Women) "Oh! He's a really nice guy, but Larry is soooo good looking and sexy! I know, I know. Larry has lot of women. This other guy is a really great guy, but he's too nice and kind of boring." 2. (me) "If you think that Larry supposedly has all these girls, then why would you date him? " (women) "He's so nice looking and sexy. I know he's kind of a bad boy and a player, but I think I can be the one to settle him down and tame him. Does he have a lot of girls?" (me) "I don't know, why don't you ask him?" What did I learn? These women wanted it all. The thrill of the chase. The good looking man, who's appealing to other women. The wild stallion who needs to be tamed. The project man, who just needs the right woman to settle him down. What about the nice guy? Oh, he's the guy you call when it all crashes and burns and your life is full of drama and you need a shoulder to cry on.

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Does a ring make a difference? Posted: 6/16/2008 3:29:17 AM
do you continue to repeat the same patterns but expecting different results? (Thats insanity) [/quote} Exactly! getting married again would mean repeating past mistakes and therefore would be insanity. The point of my story was not to say "Woa is me. Look how bad things were for me". The point was, I learned that I don't need to be married to be committed. I stood the tests and I know what I'm capable of and who I am and what I value in life. What benefit is it for me to get married? What do I gain from it? I know women who have been married and divorved three and four times. What can marriage offer me that I can't getting by telling a woman, "I love you. There is nobody else for me , but you" and then simply acting upon it. In my book, there are workers and there are runners. Marriage won't change a runner into a worker and a worker isn't going to run simply because there is no ring their finger. Do you really think a worker is going to say, "Yeah I'd love to work on strengthening this, committed long term relationship and bond we have, but I just remembered, we're not married, so you're on your own. I don't care how much it hurts anyone, I'm out. Sounds like a runner to me.

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Does a ring make a difference? Posted: 6/14/2008 10:20:12 PM
Marriage is meaningless. I was married twice, both of my exes cheated on me after five year relationships. Both of them sent me these long love notes, telling me how great I was and how much they loved me and couldn't live without me. Both times, my exes met a man within a few months after writing me these love notes. I never cheated on my wives and I never would have. I was completely committed to them. They obviously had no regard for the fact that they were married to me and had children to raise with me. I would have given my right arm for these women, married or not. Committment is in your heart and in your mind. Anyone who thinks a ceremony or a piece of paper or even having children, will keep people together is fooling themselves. I was fully committed to my wives in my heart and mind. They were not. Both of them have told me that I am now their standard for what a husband should be. They both have even had arguments with the men who came after me, saying that they know what a good husband or boyfriend should be like, because they had one and they dumped him. I told them both the same thing. "I was good, because I was 100% committed to you, but you were only able to see your own needs and wants and not those of your spouse and your children." Marriage won't change the way people think about each other. I still loved my wives for several years after I divorced them. They forgot about me within a few months of meeting a stranger. The OP's girl is like a lot of women, who think marriage is some magical committment potion and if you both just drink it, you won't have work on the relationship and everything will be wonderful. Well, as we all know, some women are spitters and some are swallowers.

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Would you date someone who believed in UFOs? Posted: 6/14/2008 9:16:09 PM
I would definitely date a woman who believes in UFOs. In fact I prefer women who believe in UFOs. What's wrong with having an Un-Fettered Orgasm? Those are the best kind! Total release is a good thing.

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How to when you're on top.... Posted: 6/13/2008 1:24:11 PM
Meesage 85 mentioned reverse cowgirl which is a good choice. By facing away, you can lean very far forward until your chest is almost touching his legs. You can also grab his shins for leverage. By leaning forward and using your upper body to support and push off with, you have less weight on your hips, therefore you will have more control over your rhythm, stroke rate and how fast you descend. You won't be plopping down or coming up too high so that he falls out. You can do more controlled little hip and butt movements, without having to push your entire body upward. By facing away from him, you can sort of be in your own little world up there. You might feel more free to lose yourself and get into your own body movements and experiment with your body control without having to stare him in the face and wonder what he thinks of all this. Once you master the reverse cowgirl, then you can turn around and lean forward into his chest and then finally you can go back to the standard high saddle postion once you've mastered those two.

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Clean-Up afterwards...disturbing???!!!!??? Posted: 6/13/2008 12:56:11 PM
Since this seems to be a pretty frank discussion, I'll just be graphic here. I think some people are missing the point of giving a woman a towel after sex. Many women like to get up and go to the bathroom after sex, either to pee or to clean up. If you are in a monogamous relationship, this most likely means you are having unprotected sex. So, when she gets up, it is very likely that "the juice" will spill all over the her side of the bed and drip down her legs on the way to the bathroom. How many times has a guy heard a woman go "aaahhh!" and chuckle as she rushes into the bathroom? Why do women have to read into everything a man does? Even when we try to do something thoughtful, it has to be analysed and interpreted, often in a negative way. "Oh what? So I'm dirty now? Is that it? Now I'm just your dirty little whore! Hmmm?" "Uhh... no, I thought you might not want to drip all over your new Persian rug on the way to the bathroom. Sorry!" Please ladies cut us just a little slack once in a while. Where is the love?

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Penises as focal points.....Hot damn ! Posted: 6/11/2008 3:52:10 AM
If ever you could communicate with a man's penis what would you say to it? I would say "Look, I told you before, not to Come around here and to tell your two hairy little buddies to stop hanging around. You'd better straighten yourself up, because I think you're starting to act like a real d!ck. "

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Masturbation in public places? Posted: 6/11/2008 3:22:29 AM
You have masturbated in swimming baths, where children swim and others are likely to swim into your excretions? It's no big deal. I wouldn't worry about that guy getting his excretions on me. I'm a strong swimmer. I can out swim his excretions any day of the week.

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why is it that most gals dont respond back when u im them?? Posted: 6/8/2008 9:44:04 PM
I've had my own personal saying for many years. It's kind of funny that I'm going to say this on a site called Plentyoffish. "There are millions of people in this world who won't like you, so who cares if five or even ten people in a row, don't like you? Because, there are millions of others who won't like you." I've always thought that telling someone "there are millions of fish in the sea," doesn't help them, when they've just been dumped or haven't received a return call after a date. It often makes them feel worse. They feel like, If there are so many fish , then how come none of them like me right now? In my point of view, I take a realistic, logical approach. With over six billion people on the planet, they can't all like you. Therefore, it's no big deal if you met several people in a row who didn't like you, unless you have some serious personal issues. In baseball a good hitter will only succeed in about only 200 out of 650 at bats or around 31% of the time. They expect a certain amount of failure. It's part of the game. I'm sure when a baseball player fails to hit in his first 10 or 20 at bats of the season, he isn't telling himself "Don't worry, I have 630 more chances left." He's probably thinking, "If I can start hitting just 1 out of 3 times, I'll be happy and I'll turn this thing around. " Most of the time when I set up a meeting with a woman, they like me very much, but if I met several women in a row who didn't like me, I wouldn't worry too much. Failure is part of the dating game, especially for an average looking guy.

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The perfect quip at the perfect time Posted: 6/8/2008 8:07:13 PM
Years ago when my son was about 6 years old, he popped up with one of those questions that kids come up with, out of the clear blue. (Andrew) "Dad? When I die and go to heaven, will God still celebrate my birthday?" (Dad) "Umm.. That's good question." "I don't know, Drew, maybe." (Andrew) "Well, what's he gonna do?" "Is he gonna sing," (singing the happy birthday song, in a sarcastic tone) "Happy birthday dear dead Andrew, Happy birthday to you!" "That's Real fun!!" I was laughing my butt off and my son was still kind of mad about, about death spoiling his birthday in heaven some day.

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secret single behaviors... Posted: 6/8/2008 7:31:19 PM
I will find five or six different live versions of the same song on Youtube. I listen to all of them consecutively and sing along all the way through each song, at the top of my lungs.

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Reasons not to go to the gym Posted: 6/8/2008 7:15:39 PM
I'm a caring person. I don't want to make everyone at the gym feel bad, when they see how much better I look in a pair of shorts and how much harder I workout.

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Ladies, what would you do if he showed up wearing this? Posted: 6/8/2008 6:59:31 PM
I don't know the guy, so obviously I can't say for if he is an attention seeker. But, I worked with a guy who was definately an attention seeker. He was one of those guys who would always jump in, make suggestions and get involved with a job that wasn't his assignment, when there were a lot of higher ups were around. When he got married, he talked for weeks about how he had to special order his kilt from Scottland, how his groomsmen would be wearing kilts too and how for shoes, they would all be wearing red, converse, hightop, tennis shoes (mind you, this guy was in his fifties). He purposely had his wife's wedding ring sized too small, so he could show how a real technician can fix anything (we are a group of techs at my job). He pulled out a ring sizer and a mallot in the middle of his semi- scottish wedding ceremony and resized his wife's ring on the fly. I'm suggesting that the OP's date might be one of these quirky attention seekers.

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Curvy Vs Slim Posted: 6/8/2008 11:52:50 AM
Besides - anyone over weight can slim down - ugly and stupid are forever....... Wait a minute. If this is true and I am looking for relationship that lasts forever, then I should only date women who are ugly and stupid , right? I've doing it all wrong!

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whos been throught this crap and came out the other end? Posted: 6/8/2008 2:24:02 AM
Speaking as a man who was married twice and cheated on twice, I think I need to wade into. First of all not "all men" cheat and arguably, not even "most" men cheat. There have been many many surveys done on this subject. The results vary widely. Some results have the rate for men cheating at least once in their marriage at 20%. Some studies show the rate to be 37% or 40% Another recent study had the number at 50- 60%. Let's not forget that in most of these studies the women cheaters were only about 8% to 20% behind the men. I know a lot of men who were faithful to their wives and they were cheated on. Being a veteran of this type of betrayal, I can offer some advice. 1. Once you are sure your spouse cheated, do not spend even one night in the same house with them. I don't care if your finances can't take the blow and you need to live together for a few months to save the money to move out, DON'T DO IT! Nothing is worth the menatal anguish this will cause you. 2. Don't ever take them back, not for any reason. They lied once, the second and third times just get easier for them. They are broken and they can't be fixed, not for you they can't. They may learn a lesson with the next person, they won't learn it from you. 3. Tie up your lose ends quickly. Cut all ties immediately so that you'll have no reason to ever speak to them again. Separate all bank accounts, car loans, credit cards, car insurances, the house, and gym memberships. The longer you have ties the more pain you'll be in. I don't want to cover break ups with kids, that would be another long post. Get away and stay away. After that, things will get better with time.

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Penis Enlargment Posted: 6/7/2008 3:24:02 PM
Flip her the bird, I just measured my middle finger. It is aproximately 3 inches long and it is about 2- 3/4 inches in circumference . My middle finger has given women great pleasure countless times and has bailed my tired tongue out of some very tight spots (pun intended). My middle finger has been a very reliable and dependable tool when it comes to making a woman have an orgasm. My middle finger has always been there for me, like a trusted friend. My middle finger and I are like this (crossing my fingers) . I'd say, if you are bigger than my middle finger, then you'll be OK and you'll find a way to work with what you've got. If you are smaller than my middle finger, then may God and your surgeon help you!

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what is with everyone being bi-sexual? Posted: 6/7/2008 12:49:27 PM
I have to admit, I was a little surprised when I did the research and reading for my previous post. I didn't think that more men than women had engaged in same sex activity since adolecence. I guess that's because men are keeping it much more in the closet. We see all these women makiing out on TV and kissing and grinding on each other in clubs. So we assume that more women have same sex encounters. It just goes to show you that a lot of these women are just doing that to tease men and draw attention to themselves, where as guys, who barely look at each other in public, are apparently going through with it and they are taking care of their business in private. I don't have any personal experience. I'm just going by the statistics. Men, with their hairy bodies and hanging, veiny, flesh tubes and their wrinkly, hairy, chicken skin, ball sacks are not very attractive to me. I honestly don't see how women can even find our bodies attractive at all. I guess that makes me straight. Ha ha! Thank God for the women who like our bodies. God bless you ladies.

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So sick of hearing this Posted: 6/7/2008 7:48:14 AM
I have this problem with saying too much sometimes. I love to tell stories and often there is some serious, revealing information about myself in the story. Women can learn a lot about a man if they are patient and don't go into a complete brain lock the moment a guy mentions a past relationship. I listen very intently when women talk about their exes, because I beleive they are trying to reveal themselves to me within the context of the story. I really appreciate the rare woman who understands this concept and can laugh and listen to what I learned from an experience. I've told many women some stories about my marriage or dates or sexual escapades that I think are very self revealing and often very funny. Only a handful of women can actually hear anything I say after I mention another woman, because they are so hung up on the fact that I'm not talking about "them "every minute. They can't seem to understand that the strory teller is usually the central figure of a story and is interacting with people within the story. The story is about who they are and what they've experienced and learned in their life. It's not like they are telling you a story about a time when their ex husband went on a camping trip, with some random girl and they got severe mosquito bites on their butts, because they were so into having sex that they forgot to close the tent. They Are that "random girl". The story is funny, because it's about Them and something They experienced. It's not about how good their ex-husband was in bed.

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legalized prostitution Posted: 6/6/2008 8:46:29 PM
We should learn from history. Whenever the U.S. has tried to make common vices illegal, crime industries have sprung up around those illegal activities. Alcohol prohibiton was a huge mistake that led the rise of mafias in this country. Illegal drug sales has fueled the rise of modern mafias and organized gangs since the 1960's in this country. Prostitution has always been a steady source of income for mafias and gangs. If the government legalized these activities and taxed them, then crime associated with these activites would decrease. With the end of prohibition, many gangs and mafias had to diversify and invest in some legitmate businesses, but they were able to stay afloat with other criminal activities until illegal drugs became a huge source of income. People will always practice these vices. When you legalize and control things like gambling, prostitution and drugs, it forces crime syndicates to go a little bit more legitimate, as was the case when the mafia moved into Las Vegas and was forced to follow the laws a little more closely and pay their taxes or lose their businesses. If prostitution were legalized nationally, they could form their own unions and create health care and retirement plans. Regular STD testing would become mandatory for licensed prostitutes and union members. Pimping and crimes against prostitutes would decrease. I neither gamble, do drugs or visit prostitutes, but I would legalize all of it. It works fairly well in other countires.

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Strangest compliment you've received lately? Posted: 6/6/2008 6:56:16 PM
I've had a few strange compliments over the last few years. One woman I dated said, "You are undercover sexy", after a long makeout session. Funny thing is, I knew exactly what she meant the second the words left her mouth and I've always seen myself that way. I bought a recently GPS off a friend's young (20 year old) roomate. All I did was shake her hand, gave her the money, made a little small talk about her basketball career, her knee rehab and her hometown. I absolutely did not flirt with her. She told my friend, "He is so awesome! And cute too!" The strangest complment ever? I'll try to keep it as clean as I can. About ten years ago, after a long sexual interlude with a woman, she said Wow! You're as good as a woman, in bed. I was sort of at a loss for words. I didn't know she was bisexual. I said "Uhh... OK... really? umm...That's wasn't quite the goal I was going for, but uhh...thanks?"

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If you are a middle aged man . Posted: 6/6/2008 5:50:27 PM
I'm forty seven years old. I have dated women as young as twenty five years younger than me and as old as eleven years older than me. Once in a while I meet someone who I really click with, for some reason and they just happen to be much younger. I would prefer to date women my own age, but women my age are so gaurded and completely picky that they rarely give me half a chance. Their lists for the "right guy" are so long and exclusive, that I find it hard to believe they even date. Younger women seem to operate on a more immediate, basic level. "Is he cute and or sexy? Does he make me laugh? Is he nice to me? does he respect me? Is he honest or does he cheat? Can I talk to him? Will he not bore me out of my skull?" That's about it. None of this "Spanish Inquisition" just to meet for a freakin coffee. I wish I could find someone my own age, who I could really hit it off with . I haven't dated a woman older than 35 years old in the last 4 years. I even dated a few that were in their early twenties. Most of these women want an intellectual, spiritual, sexual mentor. Basically, they want a "Transitonal Man". It's very nice while it lasts, but it's lonely when they learn to fly and leave the nest.

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