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 Author Thread: Joe The Plumber ... the great Republican hope?
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Joe The Plumber ... the great Republican hope?
Posted: 2/28/2009 8:35:27 AM
Wow gleeleebee what a nice thing to say. You are such a silver tongued devil aren't you.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Joe The Plumber ... the great Republican hope?
Posted: 2/27/2009 5:15:25 PM
If I remember correctly Joe did not thrust himself in front of the camera. Obama was out canvassing and either knocked on Joes door or shook his hand outside. So lets give credit where credit is due. I seem to misplace irrelevant information about irrelevant people. Now what was her name with all the kids with the weird names who live in the very cold state?
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Sarah Palin, Caroline Kennedy, social class, dynasty, the evil media elite
Posted: 2/11/2009 3:53:32 PM

Palin reperesented a serious challenge to Obama because she was an out towner that wasn't in the 'Wahsington Tank'...


humbumb thank you so much for that post...that is the best laugh I've had in a very long time. and I have no idea what the Washington Tank is...but I sure enjoyed your post
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Sarah Palin, Caroline Kennedy, social class, dynasty, the evil media elite
Posted: 2/8/2009 3:36:05 PM
Dance I agree with you also.
And Sara needs to shut up now...but I guess she considers any media better than none at all.
Carolyn would not take the hits that Sara did. Carolyn has been in the media since she was a child. Before Sara came out in Dayton back in August, no one in the lower states had ever heard of her.
Did you all see Sara on UTube at the turkey farm...now that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. It still makes me laugh.
Personally I perdict that Carolyn will show up in Mass to fill in for Teddy when he dies.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 201 (view)
 
smoking bans
Posted: 2/3/2009 4:24:37 AM
A friend of mine who goes to lots of different bars in Ohio said she's seen signs and patrons are expected to make daily donations to help pay the smoking fines. These bars are not private but since there aren't enough enforcement agents, they are playing the odds they won't get caught. And if they do they have the money to pay the fines.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 200 (view)
 
smoking bans
Posted: 2/3/2009 4:15:15 AM

I also find it a little ironic that the same people who promote smoking bans, have no problem with $1 draft night, or $5 all you can drink. you can drink 23 beers, but just don't smoke! I know the argument of, drinking 23 beers only hurts the person doing it, until they leave the bar.


Smokers just want to stretch things. We all agree smoking is an offesive smell. There is NO smell to those around you when you drink what you drink...or I drink what I drink. And because smoking is banned in most states, this does not mean that breathing, seeing, talking or another freedom will also be banned. In my opinion these are weak arguments.
I too am from Ohio and I was glad the ban was passed. I could now go places I didn't go before the ban. Bowling, and certain restaurants (I prefer to sit at the bar). There are certain patios that I avoid because they allow smokers.
In Ohio smoking is still allowed and encouraged at private clubs (VFW, Moose, and those type).
I heard many bartenders complain that their business was greatly reduced. Maybe at first it was. As I always replied when I heard this was eventually the smokers would come back. They would get tired of eating and drinking at home. Afterall eating, and drinking is social (in my opinion). If you are alone you interact with the bartender or other patrons. Or you bring friends.
So you don't have to check my profile, no I am not a smoker and never have been. I grew up with two very heavy smokers, and got tired of going to school smelling smokey. On the other hand, my son never having grown up with it, now smokes on and off. Go figure.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 26 (view)
 
New Orleans for Mardi Gras
Posted: 1/30/2009 9:52:53 AM
to me it's one of those things you do once...and you really don't need to do it again (kinda like the mile high club).
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 117 (view)
 
What kind of wildlife lives where you live?
Posted: 1/27/2009 3:09:16 PM
I live on 650 acres in an old farm house. I've had two bats that were lost and flew around the house, in different years. I've seen more deer than I can count, a few coyotes, Canadian geese occasionally. Let's not even talk about all the field mice that get in to the tinest cracks. Fortunately I have a good mouser named Dusty, and find the dead gifts in the strangest places.
Racoons, skunks, a family of red foxes one summer that we loved watching, and a chipmunk gets in the house occasionally but Dusty takes care of it.
I too have a creek that runs 1/3 of the way between the property and have seen a couple unusual long legged birds, but wasn't close enough to see what they were.
There are others and I'm sure as soon as I post this I'll think of a few other critters.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 77 (view)
 
Best small towns in USA
Posted: 1/26/2009 6:14:13 AM
I absolutely love Savannah. Some may not consider it a small town, but I sure do. I posted on an old thread about Savannah (before I noticed how old it was).

Also Sedona AZ is incredible.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Vacation Time..... Where to go.... MEXICO???
Posted: 1/24/2009 2:38:05 PM
I have seen a lot of State Dept advisories come across my desk in the last 6 mos. Check out what is going on on both coasts with the drug cartels on the state dept website.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Aruba, Punta Cana or other
Posted: 1/20/2009 4:20:04 PM
Thanks MiniMe I appreciate the link. I will check it out.
Did you like Cancun better? I saw your pic of fishing there.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 205 (view)
 
If you could have, a free holiday where would you go?
Posted: 1/17/2009 7:35:38 AM
Dubai and a safari.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 59 (view)
 
What is the most exotic place you have traveled?
Posted: 1/16/2009 5:59:07 PM
I lived in Iceland for a year, so I'd say that would be the most exotic. In high school I went to a small village in Guatemala, now there was a third world country.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 43 (view)
 
Going on a vacation by yourself? Good or Bad idea?
Posted: 1/15/2009 12:29:32 PM
I bet after 5 of us get back from Punta Cana (I think thats where they decided they want to go) I'll wish I had traveled alone. I've been in many countries mostly alone, generally in conjunction with a business trip. Maybe one other person was traveling with me, but mostly alone.
The 4 friends are having trouble deciding where and when to go. So where to have dinner and what activity to do will probably be excruciating. I imagine I'll get tired of the indecision and just go where I feel like.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 145 (view)
 
Where did you go on your last vacation?
Posted: 1/15/2009 3:31:34 AM
Spent 11 days in Seoul in early Nov. My job is a vacation sometimes too.
In March 5 BFFs and I are going to the Caribean, but haven't decided where. I started a thread last night but have only gotten one reply.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Aruba, Punta Cana or other
Posted: 1/15/2009 3:28:07 AM
Interesting that you say that Mexico is great for getting out...I've been seeing a lot of State Dept advisories about how dangerous Mexico is getting.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Aruba, Punta Cana or other
Posted: 1/14/2009 4:42:53 PM
There are 5 of us girlfriends who plan to get away in March. It's hard to get everyone to decide, but we've narrowed it down to Aruba, DR or Mexico. We're a bit older than most who I've seen post here. Most of us don't care if all we do it lay on the beach and bake.
We're open to suggestions and I'd love to hear what all inclusives you've been to in either country.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Savannah Georgia
Posted: 1/14/2009 4:33:02 PM
I've traveled to Savannah many time on business and it is an awesome town. River Street (downtown) has a lot of shops and it is an open container area. Grab a drink and walk around.
Old homes, tours, but don't recommend Paula Deens Restaurant. Most locals will not even utter her name. If you want good home cooking I'd suggest Mrs. Wilkes (also downtown and only open for breakfast and lunch). Vinnie Van Go Go probably has the best pizza in the south and is located in the City Market area of downtown.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 64 (view)
 
Where is our country headed now, is this really a depression
Posted: 12/21/2008 4:31:13 PM
yeah I pay $16 every three weeks to have my nails done. Much cheaper than buying a six pack every couple days or a pack of smokes everyday.
I do agree with you manerider that we need to feel human and we need to feel things will get better.
Thank god that my job is very secure and always will be. I can't imagine how millions of Americans are getting by...they aren't I suspect.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 272 (view)
 
Embarrassing question-whipping it out inappropriately
Posted: 12/20/2008 1:10:43 PM
I posted on this site in the early days, and am shocked to see how many women this has happened to.
I think I may have taken the blanket off of him while he was in the act and left him there scrambling for cover. Would have served him right.
Do these guys realize that this is indecent exposure and charges could be brought against him? No of course they do not realize what the consequence could be because they are thinking with the little head and this never occurs to them.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Election's over now: Bill Ayers speaks up
Posted: 12/7/2008 9:16:58 AM

Funny, why do you think Dmotz refuses to tell us who Ayers killed?

Charles it's because you can't post what doesn't exist. And to think someone else posted references to Manson, and Hitler in comparison with Ayers. Makes me shake my head to get the cobwebs out...they must be there as I can't have possibly read that.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 99 (view)
 
You must do penance if you voted for Obama Abortion issue
Posted: 11/28/2008 5:30:25 AM
ready4somethingfun you just don't have a clue here do you. I guess we don't understand your scarcasm when it applies to a discussion. I too am scarcastic and generally when I am trying to make a point, I keep it in check.
When you get up you might want to do a google search and see how many Americans are happy with the US at this time. Yes the stat is close to accurate with Bush, but it is close to the inverse of people being happy with the US now (fellow Americans).
And please don't be so rude and critize Charles or any other Canadian poster here just because they do not live in the US. In my opinion that shows your ignorance.
Charles, Motreal Guy and some other posters are must more "up on things" than you and I put together. I got back from an overseas trip about 10 days ago and I was amazed how every country I was in was talking and talking and very excited about our recent election. To practice their english, people came up to me and asked questions on what I thought about Obama and such. Other countries are very anxious for the US to be the powerhouse, for lack of a better word, that we used to be.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 141 (view)
 
Until this morning...
Posted: 11/23/2008 3:56:50 PM
Where4 thanks for sharing that article. I too believe that the GOP has gone the way of the religious right. I think it has hurt the party and they seem to be pulling the strings for the party. I realize they have a lot of clout but in my opinion they need to come up with their own party and leave the GOP alone. No one in the party seems to have the ba*ls to stop this train wreck.
I've read a lot since Nov 4th about what the GOP feels they need to do in the future to even have a shot a winning another election. None of the articles dare mention the religious right.
I believe it was Swamp who said those who abandoned the party are partly to blame (for this loss). I don't agree that one should stay with the party regardless. To me if the party I'm affiliated with no longer meets my needs or they stray too far from the party line, it is up to me to vote where I see fit. It's not like I've voted Democrat all my life (there was that one time I voted for...don't laugh...Ross Perrot) and they can count on my vote in every election. "Well there's Teri's vote, we can count on that one." Neither party can count on anyones vote ever. So to me it is fruitless to call anyone a traitor or unAmerican if they exercise their right and vote as they see fit (or endorse which ever candidate they choose, and for whatever reason). No party has my vote or any others vote for life, they always need to earn that vote.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 128 (view)
 
Until this morning...
Posted: 11/21/2008 3:15:35 PM
Take a step back guys...also take a deep breath. We all know you both disagree...but enough of the name calling. Can't we all just get along?
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 37 (view)
 
Politically opposite SO?
Posted: 11/17/2008 8:48:33 PM
Go Bucs! What the hell is maize anyway? Ground corn.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 103 (view)
 
Until this morning...
Posted: 11/17/2008 8:34:30 PM
Ok what's with the all the bald heads all of a sudden????
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 100 (view)
 
Until this morning...
Posted: 11/17/2008 2:38:01 PM
Hey Swampman I like the shaved head ( I just read this thread, as I have been out of the country since shortly after the election). I checked out your profile and you didn't have much to shave there guy.
I saw Face the Nation yesterday and Newt and Bobby Jindal(sp) were discussing what the Repubs need to do in the coming years. What they said sure sounded like what Obama just ran on. Interesting they were saying they needed to pay more attention to the middle class, beef up education, pay attention to things that matter to the average American.
Interesting that I've always been taught that the Republicans are for big business , could they be reevaluating their game?
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 76 (view)
 
Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 11/4/2008 12:37:07 PM
I love it jed...that was a great comment!!
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 85 (view)
 
Joe Biden's October Surprise
Posted: 11/2/2008 3:13:13 PM
I would have done my fact check before I posted, but I was on my way to the Columbus State House to hear Obama. What a long day, but I wouldn't have missed it for anything. I still haven't heard how many people were there.
Scrooge you never look like an idiot any more than the rest of us do.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 71 (view)
 
Joe Biden's October Surprise
Posted: 11/2/2008 4:51:33 AM
ibscrooge my guess would be (no facts...I'll leave those to razr or Dad) that it is very hard for a junior senator to sponsor and get bills passed. I don't know for a fact but it may have been a Republican controlled congress too, making it even harder. And as some of you say, with his Messiah complex he should have been able to push any bill through. Sounds good but not real world logistics.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 61 (view)
 
Joe Biden's October Surprise
Posted: 11/1/2008 4:16:25 PM
Razar see it is a waste of your/our time to post to these two. They do not want to know anything that they don't already know. I've learnt what I've learnt...don't need to know anymore. Save your breath.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 67 (view)
 
Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 11/1/2008 8:25:08 AM
I explained to a gal at work yesterday about why all this stuff about Obama can't be true. I told her all the stuff we all know, that if he was pals with terrorist, was a socialist, that no one had seen his birth certificate so it's unknown where he was born, that he'd never be able to get a clearance, and he will have the highest clearance possible.
She said...I was wondering about this (but hadn't though to take that thought any further). I also said if McCain isn't afraid of Obama why would you be? She obviously does not watch the news because she had no idea that had happened. And lastly I told her that if any of this was r e m o t e l y true the media would be all over it (or would have been all over it when this whole thing first started...the primaries).
I went back to my desk thinking that it is very good for the Republicans that millions believe what they are told and don't question things that give them pause.
Just makes you go hummmm?
Hey all I'm planning on going to the Columbus State House on Sunday to see the up and coming president and first lady. I'm going to drive by there later today and scope it out.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 61 (view)
 
Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 10/31/2008 12:13:35 AM

Quite a chip you got on your shoulder there harliegal. By the way, I think motorcycles are useless toys for non athletic people. Most the people I have met that ride them are way out of shape and not all that bright. But I digress...

In a way, you cant resist it can you? The truth stabs you and blurt out your attitudes. I know a little about the military and I know they're human, and you raise a good point about returning to the US for just plain normal troop moments.

But there is another point here which has reared its ugly head. Its people's attitudes of entitlement, including entitlement to disrespecting and belittling the people making sacrifices for the nation. Anyone willing to sacrifice their life for me can do no wrong. In WW1, a man made a critical statement about the war and the president and was beaten to death, with tacit approval of the courts. Well, cant say I blame them. Anti US in the time of war is the same as being a traitor.

You are absolutely hysterical! Me with a chip on my shoulder and I care what you think about me or my toys why????? You are the biggest blowhart I've seen on this site in quite a while. The truth stabs me and makes me blurt our my attitudes...and what in the world does this mean???? And whos entitlement is allowing them to disrespect those who sacrafice for this country? Not saying a negative word about the military or it's military games, seems to be equated with not being a tratior. Whatever. I could tell from reading your post I responded to that you had not served your country, you guys are very easy to pick out. Blowhart. And I thought Marcus was screening and limiting new posters in the political forum...seems like another flamebaiter got in again. My last reply to anything you post...you are not worth my time and effort past this post.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 55 (view)
 
Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the Homeland?
Posted: 10/30/2008 4:17:25 PM
You have to have ethics and skill to be a US soldier


You have posted some stupid things in this thread but this takes the cake. You obviously have never been in the military, like I have, or you would not make such a statment. It would be nice in a perfect world if all soldiers had ethics and skills, most of know that many of them do not.
Did it occur to any of you doomsday idiots that they are done with their mission and are coming back to the US? Obviously not. If you knew anything about the military, the troops aren't generally kept in the filed indefinitely.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 771 (view)
 
Over for Mccain?
Posted: 10/30/2008 4:03:12 PM
littleaudrey no one I've read so far has commented on your well thought out post. I agree with you, although I don't know anything about the Jewish vote. We both care about the same issues and I am interested to see how it all shakes out Tuesday. Once the results are in for Ohio and Florida I think the rest is gravy for Obama.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Uncounted Votes
Posted: 10/30/2008 4:23:59 AM
The military being behind a republican is certainly no big deal, and nothing new. I was in the Navy and I've worked for the AF for a total of 32 years. Many think they will not have a job or won't have the financial backing for the programs they work if a democrat is in office. Personally the amount of money that DoD spends on unnecessary things is staggering. But that is for another thread.
Currently I work with 60 other people and it is well know in the office where I stand. Out of 60 I know of 4 and suspect a couple others of being democrat. I bring that up because the numbers of military members stated in an earlier post who are pro McSame is no surprise to me. The real surprise would be if the numbers were lower, but then I can hope can't I.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 118 (view)
 
In Light of the Neiman Marcus Bill...
Posted: 10/27/2008 4:54:57 AM
How do you guarantee this Eric? Just how do you guarantee that Obama did not buy his own clothes? Should you have stated you wish this to be the case.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 620 (view)
 
Over for Mccain?
Posted: 10/26/2008 6:22:38 AM
Far be it from me to get into the fray when it doesn't involve me, but I have a point that might make things clearer.
It is not always required to mention a person's skin color . Take this for example.
Evening news about a bank robery. When describing the robbers the newscaster mentions that the men who did the deed as black. No problem right?
The same newscast with the same info, but the newscaster does not mention the color of the guys.
Does it mean they are white so no need to mention it? In fact they could be Asian or Indian.
In my way of thinking if you mention one race's skin color you need to mention all of them.
I think in the post that is being referred to the color of the preacher was inportant or your post would have not had any valadity.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 97 (view)
 
In Light of the Neiman Marcus Bill...
Posted: 10/25/2008 3:00:48 PM
I just can't wait until all this campaign crap is over...I wish this Tuesday was the election.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 75 (view)
 
In Light of the Neiman Marcus Bill...
Posted: 10/25/2008 9:13:37 AM
You're supposed to be the type of person that advocates that we should help the poor out, but yet you find it yuck and disgusting for people to give away cloths that they don't ware anymore to people in need? The greatest example of redistribution of wealth is charity, remember that.

Honey I never said anything about giving Palin's used cloths to the poor. I said it was gross to RETURN them to the store, things that she has worn. But then I think it is gross to return anything that has been worn to the store so other unspecting people can buy it (thinking that it is new). But she could give it to the Goodwill so they can make some money on it.
But if Palin wants to pay taxes on it, she can keep it. And after seeing the pictures (links) posted, she may want to give this idea some serious though.
Yep they did look like shower shoes but I think they were very out of date sandles.
Ok after seeing all the other posts, this is a woman's issue and you guys just don't get the point here. Thanks ladies for "getting" what I waws yucking about.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 49 (view)
 
In Light of the Neiman Marcus Bill...
Posted: 10/24/2008 4:12:42 PM

But Sarah said it's all ok because she's returning the clothes......giving them to charity or something like that.

Yuck she's planning on returning clothes that she's worn!!! Or the campaign did after the convention....not good. That is pretty disgusting actually.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 31 (view)
 
In Light of the Neiman Marcus Bill...
Posted: 10/24/2008 4:35:21 AM
Stee;city what you forgot to mention was the clothes will be donated to charity, IF PALIN DOES NOT WANT TO PAY TAXES ON THE $150,000. At least all the articles I read said this.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 22 (view)
 
In Light of the Neiman Marcus Bill...
Posted: 10/23/2008 7:41:03 PM
Dad that was a $400 haircut Edward's had.
Can any of you tell the difference between a woman's jacket that cost $1,000 and one that the RNC paid $2,500 for? I certainly doubt that I could.
Palin was in Troy Ohio this morning and I heard a guy on the local country station way in on her wardrobe. He suggested that she show up in jeans, a John Deere sweatshirt and hat, and the crowd would go nuts. And I'm sure he's right.

As far as the cost of men's clothes my take on this is that men generally have a few suits (on the campaign trail maybe 20, just a guess) and lots of shirts and ties (correct me guys if I'm wrong on this). So if a man spends $2,000 per suit, etc, he's still got less invested that the women on the campaign trail do. What's my point in posting this...nothing...it came to my mind so I posted it.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Obama vs McCain on taxes & truth about the war
Posted: 10/23/2008 4:27:44 PM
OMG Tim I agree with you!!!!! You just have on a repub mask right?
Are we getting to you or have you felt like this the whole time?
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 237 (view)
 
ACORN busted in Nevada
Posted: 10/22/2008 5:51:28 PM
"Sorry kids, leftover Ramen again tonight, we had to donate to the messiah."

Didn't you hear that he wasn't really born in a manger...he came from the planet Krypton!
And this Democrat sure has never been into poor me. Because that would be a lie...I am doing very very well, but below the $250K needed so I would have to pay higher taxes.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 236 (view)
 
ACORN busted in Nevada
Posted: 10/22/2008 5:47:53 PM
Brandi he never answered this post except to say that it was a Canadian company...lol. He doesn't know his geography very well does he...and like a lot of the posters they ignore posts with facts contrary to what they believe.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 232 (view)
 
ACORN busted in Nevada
Posted: 10/22/2008 2:43:20 PM

If you go donate to Obama through his website all the donations can be tracked to the owners of the credit cards where you'll find mine in there for several $25.00 payments to that account. Track down my phone number and ask me about my payments, I tell you I made them and you can repeat the process several millions of times and you can talk to each and every donor.


Me too Mac, me too.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 221 (view)
 
ACORN busted in Nevada
Posted: 10/21/2008 3:56:45 PM
Ronjo you silly thing. That is Ontario CALIFORNIA!!!! Not Ontario Canada.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Joe Biden's October Surprise
Posted: 10/20/2008 7:49:29 PM

Most of the people voting for Mr. Obama could care less what Biden says. Most are voting against what they see as the status quo, not for the better candidate.

I take that is your OPINION roger. I personally am voting for the better candidate, and Biden is Biden.
 harliegal
Joined: 8/31/2007
Msg: 631 (view)
 
The Great Debate!
Posted: 10/20/2008 7:43:45 PM

Powell was asked to run and he said no he said that he did not have the fire in the belly needed to run.

vvendy I believe that if you do some checking the reason that Powell never ran for President was because of his wife. She was adament about him never being the first black man to run for President, and I think it wonderful that he cares enough about her to respect her wishes. Also I seem to recall that she had an illness or something that he did not want the media to get their horns into, even though they are aware of it. I can't find any articles about it though.
 
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