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 Author Thread: Does God exist?
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 337 (view)
 
Does God exist?
Posted: 2/14/2009 4:12:01 PM

"There probably is no God - so relax and enjoy your life.”


I'm as mad as hell and I am not going to take it any more

Therefore, I would like to know where I send money to have the first quote placed on local buses ... and while I'm at it ... has anyone managed to herd the atheist group into a force to be reckoned with or are we still a bunch of cats?
And by the way the flying spaghetti monster is gone, I ate it last night spiced with just the right amount of dog … sorry I meant god.
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 70 (view)
 
hunted!
Posted: 2/14/2009 12:49:21 PM
“A MAN HUNTS A WOMAN UNTIL THE WOMAN CATCHES HIM”
Biological imperative of the human species.
I lay out my attributes, display my plumage, and piss into the wind (whatever works). You are the ones who decide.
It is the nature’s way of insuring support through child raising years. This cannot be denied despite our so-called big brains. You will smell me to see if my immune system will enhance yours without even being aware of it. The best kisser in the world has no chance if his he doesn’t taste right. Courting is a complicated test that men take.
For men it is about spreading their DNA. That means having as many children as possible. Only social convention keeps this to a one family affair. Women are limited to the number of children they can have so they are much more discerning in choosing a mate.
We are animals and you are in charge
I recognize and bow to your power.
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
my 2 cents
Posted: 1/27/2009 4:26:56 PM
From what I have seen, men place attractive women on there favorite's list (wish list) at ten times the rate of women placing men on theirs. It appears to be a male thing. Could it be that women are simply not susceptible to porno bots as they already have a ready supply of men bots.
I've had five in the last week. If you will note, email spam is mostly aimed at men's private parts. Are men overly sensitive about their masculinity? Probably

Rather than charge fees could POF simply require us to go through one of those camouflaged word tests in order to get on the site?
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
ATTACK of the porn bots!!!!!!!!
Posted: 1/26/2009 2:52:23 PM
What's the pay-off for them? Anyone silly enough to send money deserves to loose it. What happens when you e-mail them with specific questions? Why is my exwife one of them?
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 780 (view)
 
Religion is the True EVIL in the world
Posted: 7/13/2008 10:16:47 AM
Getting back on line.
Religion being "evil"? This word is most often used as a descriptor of an act or human being, so NO … religion can’t be evil anymore than science (search for natures truths)
The problem with religion lies in the people it attracts… Those wishing to be led and those wishing to lead. It’s a perfect match for the growth of ignorance. For example, the denial of evolution is fostered by church leaders in order to keep their flock(interesting choice of words?) from thinking for themselves. Because these flockers can so easily be controlled, religion is often usurped by leaders who can’t get followers through reasoning. Witch burning is one of a thousand atrocities done in the name of god.
On the other hand atheists are independent thinkers and attempting to get them to follow is like trying to herd a flock of cats. Individually they may be evil but they don’t participate in group evil.
To be fair to religion it must be remembered that it came about in a time of ignorance. The very nature of our species inquisitive minds called for answers to the world around us, to meaning in life, to all those questions we still ask ourselves today. “Because god said so ” were the first words ever said by the original con artist.
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 682 (view)
 
What is your biggest turn on
Posted: 7/13/2008 8:27:35 AM
humour ...loud laugh ...hint of sarcasm ... aimed to make me work (intelligent) …totally silly...irreverent …inclusive …not necessarily in this order
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 98 (view)
 
Is visual attraction what draws and keeps our attention?
Posted: 4/16/2008 6:54:58 PM
Different things for different people! Here is a quote from Science Daily. It restores my faith in my ability to find the right one. Attractiveness is far more complicated than physical beauty.



Fittest Males Don't Always Get The Girl
ScienceDaily (Apr. 16, 2008) — The fittest males don't always get the girl, USC biologists report. Study tackles a paradox in species from fruit flies to humans: If warriors win the spoils, why don't males evolve towards super-aggressiveness?


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There is more to mating than beating up the competition, according to a new study.

Female fruit flies sometimes choose males who win fights, sometimes choose males who do not fight, and sometimes choose males for no obvious reason, say biologists from the University of Southern California; Cal State University, Sacramento; and the University of California, Davis.

The findings help explain the large variation in aggressiveness in most species, including humans.

"If aggression makes you more likely to father children, all males should be selected to be very aggressive. Male fruit flies (like humans and other animals) show a lot of genetic variation in aggression, and we wanted to find out why," explained study leader Brad Foley, a post-doctoral researcher at USC.

One reason for the variation, according to the study and to previous research on lizards by other groups, may be that no fighting strategy works all the time, just as in the game rock-scissors-paper.

"We showed in fruit flies that even the most genetically aggressive flies can have an Achilles heel, and lose against males who are (for the most part) wimps," Foley wrote.

"There's no single way to win a fight, or win mates," he added. "Females didn't necessarily prefer aggressive males -- some males mated less when they lost fights, but some males mated more if they didn't fight. Moreover, different females preferred different males."

"Unexpected interactions between individuals can define winners and losers (so-called 'chemistry')," Foley concluded. "In order to understand why flies, and humans, and other animals, are so genetically different from each other, we need to stop imagining there's a 'best' kind of strategy."

So while Hamlet was described to have "the courtier's, soldier's, scholar's, eye, tongue, sword," it is not clear which part drove Ophelia mad.

Journal reference: Cabral LG, Foley BR, Nuzhdin SV (2008) Does Sex Trade with Violence among Genotypes in Drosophila melanogaster?. PLoS One 3(4): e1986.doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0001986

The other member of the research team were Larry Cabral of Cal State Sacramento (co-corresponding author with Foley), and Foley's supervisor Sergey Nuzhdin, professor of molecular and computational biology at USC. The paper was written at USC based on experiments conducted at the University of California, Davis, where Foley and Nuzhdin worked previously.

Funding for the study came from the National Science Foundation.

Adapted from materials provided by Public Library of Science, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.




 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
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How Does Feminism Affect Women's Views on Dating?
Posted: 10/17/2007 9:48:23 AM

One wouldn't exactly expect any university to produce a study which said feminism was bad.


See ladies! ... It's working! ... Just weeded out another who is unable to look beyond stereotypes
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
How Does Feminism Affect Women's Views on Dating?
Posted: 10/17/2007 7:21:15 AM

Feminism And Romance Go Hand In Hand
Science Daily — Contrary to popular opinion, feminism and romance are not incompatible and feminism may actually improve the quality of heterosexual relationships, according to Laurie Rudman and Julie Phelan, from Rutgers University in the US. Their study* also shows that unflattering feminist stereotypes, that tend to stigmatize feminists as unattractive and sexually unappealing, are unsupported.

It is generally interpersonal power of feminism: is feminism good for romantic relationships? Sex Roles (DOI 10.1007/s11199-007-9319-9)
Note: This story has been adapted from material provided by Springer.perceived that feminism and romance are in direct conflict. Rudman and Phelan’s work challenges this perception. They carried out both a laboratory survey of 242 American undergraduates and an online survey including 289 older adults, more likely to have had longer relationships and greater life experience. They looked at men’s and women’s perception of their own feminism and its link to relationship health, measured by a combination of overall relationship quality, agreement about gender equality, relationship stability and sexual satisfaction.
They found that having a feminist partner was linked to healthier heterosexual relationships for women. Men with feminist partners also reported both more stable relationships and greater sexual satisfaction. According to these results, feminism does not predict poor romantic relationships, in fact quite the opposite.
The authors also tested the validity of feminist stereotypical beliefs amongst their two samples, based on the hypothesis that if feminist stereotypes are accurate, then feminist women should be more likely to report themselves as being single, lesbian, or sexually unattractive, compared with non-feminist women.
Rudman and Phelan found no support for this hypothesis amongst their study participants. In fact, feminist women were more likely to be in a heterosexual romantic relationship than non-feminist women. The authors conclude that feminist stereotypes appear to be inaccurate, and therefore their unfavorable implications for relationships are also likely to be unfounded.
* Reference: Rudman LA & Phelan JE (2007).


Contrary to the last gentleman’s opinion, it appears the only thing feminists need to worry about is stereotyping … Don’t! … Consider this as a method of screening out the ignorant .
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 38 (view)
 
What scares you?
Posted: 10/16/2007 8:00:33 PM
A phone call from Revenue Canada____________ (small)
The dying of the light______________________ (medium)
Danger to my children______________________(large)
 rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 309 (view)
 
Does God exist?
Posted: 10/9/2007 9:36:37 PM

If you are living life like there is no God, you better be right.

If I were religious, I would be embarrassed by that bumper sticker.
The messsage is, god is punitive and the only reason religious people do good deeds is fear.
I also feel slighted as an atheist. Religious people don't outdo the charity of non religious. Proven in studies. See earlier postings.

This only reinforces the view that ... faith fears facts ...
 rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 306 (view)
 
Does God exist?
Posted: 10/6/2007 2:56:42 PM
I feel all those things and much more because I have faith in humanity. Believing in oneself is far more empowering than believing in myth. If life goes south, it is my responsibility to fix it ... and no one's fault but mine. I am far freer than you can ever be or you can even understand. You will need to trust me on this.
 rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
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Is it wrong for a Lady to be offended when called WOMAN?
Posted: 10/4/2007 5:01:56 PM
.......................WOMAN......................
Context and culture (cultured, if you would) have created a history for the term.
I have always looked upon it as a compliment. It is the very embodiment of what I am looking for in a female. Half the world is female, but there are few women. My grandmother and my daughters are females!!
Gentlemen and ladies are pretentious terms based upon a class system. Given a choice of being labeled as a gentleman or a man, I will choose the latter … a male with strength, honor, and values … who fights his own fights, bleeds his own blood, and loves a woman in the same way.

nothing less, nothing more.
 rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 302 (view)
 
Does God exist?
Posted: 9/30/2007 12:19:45 PM

but heres the question, what does faith hurt?

Here is the answer

Let me start with a little expansion. Atheists recognize the evolutionary need to believe in a higher power(see previous post) and most realize the pointlessness of logical argument in that regards. We may as well attempt to change the nature of cats as to remove your need to follow. It’s not going to happen.
The real problem lies in YOUR lack of effort to control the extremists in your midst. This applies to both fundamentalists in North America and the Mid East. They are interpreting literature written in a time period rife with cultural clashes and the resulting prejudices, not to mention ancient views on human rights. Furthermore they have been left with no choice but to abandon logic, as logic is the basis of science (think evolution). Without logic they can come to any racist conclusion that they desire.
Having stated this, atheists recognize this group forms a very small part of the two different cultures.
Moving on to the real problem. By saying YOUR … I mean the VAST majority of religious tolerant moderates to whom this note is directed at (both cultures). I ask you to visit some of the fundamentalist forums and look at the vile evidenced. I then ask you what is wrong with your religion that allows you to support this rhetoric (doing nothing to control it is supporting). Is it possible that you have a deep rooted bias that wishes to see another culture crushed ? Your lack of concern would seem to support this notion. You have the power, group cohesion, and the responsibility. Gathering the atheists to face this situation is as hopeless as herding cats as they form less than one percent of the population and by nature are independent thinkers. You are the herd, you hold the power, and you are failing your responsibility! …

THIS failure is the danger of religion….
I hope I offend some enough to get them to think.
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 128 (view)
 
Seduction Style
Posted: 9/27/2007 10:48:18 AM
I would like someone (technician) to take a look at my results on line.

I took the test, got the results (laughed a lot) and copied them. They truly were me. Problem...I gave the e-mail address out only to get feedback that it was not me and ...It wasn't. The interpretation had totally changed, opposite if anything. There is obviously an error in the system somewhere. Can something be done about it? As it stands, it is useless to me.
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
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When you add someone to your Favourites...
Posted: 9/27/2007 6:53:34 AM
It is the equivalent of exchanging glances from across the room. Simply adding you is the lightest form of contact. If you have a lot of fans I figure you may be talking with many of them (your plate is full). Responding to an e-mail places an unnecessary burden on you. By ignoring or deleting me, you send a message. By adding me to your favorites, you are telling me to contact you.

"Who viewed me "has less meaning as it is simply opening the door to look inside. I could do it in stealth mode, but I do not want to live my life like that.

Lots of different opinions...eh
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 175 (view)
 
Over 45 Men, How should we dress? OK Ladies fire away!
Posted: 9/19/2007 6:05:36 PM
It depends on the type of sandals and the type of socks. Ever hear of dress sandals? You all must still live in the dark ages. Germans wear them all the time. Furthemore I would bet that Eskimos wear them also....
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 294 (view)
 
Does God exist?
Posted: 9/19/2007 4:24:40 PM
No, I do not, but I do recognize the power of religion as should all atheists. The following is an excerpt from an article entitled "IS GOD GOOD"

YOU ARE BEING WATCHED
So why do religious concepts provoke moral behavior even in non-believers? It’s because both religion and morality are evolutionary adaptations, says Jesse Bering, who heads the Institute of Cognition and Culture at Queen’s University, Belfast, UK. Morality does not stem from religion, as is often argued, he suggests: they evolved separately, albeit in response to the same forces in our social environment. Once our ancestors acquired language and theory of mind —the ability to understand what others are thinking — news of any individual’s reputation could spread far beyond their immediate group. Anyone with tendencies to behave pro-socially would then have been at an advantage, Bering says: “What we’re concerned about in terms of our moral behavior is what other people think about us.” So morality became adaptive.

At the same time the capacity for religious belief would also have emerged. Our reputation-conscious ancestors would have experienced a pervasive feeling of being watched and judged, he says, which they would readily have attributed to supernatural sources since the cognitive system underlying theory of mind also seeks to attribute intentionality and meaning, even where there is none. So the same adaptations that led to morality could also have driven the evolution of religion.

Meanwhile, evolutionary biologist David Sloan Wilson of the State University of New York argues that religious practices are also important for group cohesion and are therefore subject to group selection. As humans have become ever more social over the past 100,000 years, and especially from 10,000 years ago, when agriculture led to huge division of labour in societies, religion and morality would have co-evolved as ways to promote social cohesion. “Religion did play a crucial role in giving us our moral nature, at least evolutionarily speaking,” says psychologist Jonathan Haidt from the University of Virginia.

Nowadays, adds Bering, whether we believe in a God or not, the brain architecture that causes us to behave as though we might get caught behaving badly is still present. As a result, atheists are no more likely to be immoral than believers. Indeed, his own
experiments show that, regardless of whether people believe in supernatural beings, both adults and children cheat less when performing a task in private if Bering has first primed them with the idea that there maybe a “god” or a “ghost” watching.

Cultural and technological advances have also changed the way we live, making western liberal societies poor models for understanding the link between religion and morality, according to Haidt. He argues that we are now far more individualistic than our ancestors are. “Technology has changed our lives so we can live in new ways. We can now be moral without religion. We have developed other means of social control,” he says, such as laws, police forces and CCTV cameras.

Yet religion does still have the power to galvanize individuals in any society. Brain- Imaging experiments by Andrew Newberg at the University of Pennsylvania indicate that people in religious or meditative states show a transient decrease in brain activity in regions representing our map of the body and our sense of self. Religious feelings do seem to be quite literally self-less, which may be one of religion’s biggest draws. Many human activities — from music festivals to military service — tap into our powerful urge for group bonding. Haidt believes that we also have an evolved desire to elevate ourselves beyond our own selfish interests to a more helpful, group- oriented and selfless plane.
Haidt says this sense of elevation is mediated through a physiological response in the release of a hormone called oxytocin, which makes us feel happy and good about ourselves. Elevation can come in many forms: we might get it from pursuing a noble goal, doing good, reading great prose, witnessing something skilful, experiencing awe or empathizing with someone else who is feeling good. Still, religious people have an extra source of elevation that many atheists lack — and scientists like Dawkins may do well to realize that even the most logical and articulate argument against religion will never eradicate this evolutionary sense of meaning.

Even if many no longer need religion for social cohesion or moral guidance, and think that atheism is the only rational route, we should nevertheless recognize that religion has had a pivotal role in our evolutionary history. It can still reinforce moral values and work with our innate moral sense. It can also be used to justify immoral behavior towards those who do not embrace our beliefs. Like it or not, religion remains an important part of what we are. •

NewScientistat http://archive.newscientisLcom

 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Is being good not good enough
Posted: 9/19/2007 4:09:08 PM
We wish to impress god by being good? the following comes from an article entitled "Is god good"

YOU ARE BEING WATCHED
So why do religious concepts provoke moral behavior even in non-believers? It’s because both religion and morality are evolutionary adaptations, says Jesse Bering, who heads the Institute of Cognition and Culture at Queen’s University, Belfast, UK. Morality does not stem from religion, as is often argued, he suggests: they evolved separately, albeit in response to the same forces in our social environment. Once our ancestors acquired language and theory of mind —the ability to understand what others are thinking — news of any individual’s reputation could spread far beyond their immediate group. Anyone with tendencies to behave pro-socially would then have been at an advantage, Bering says: “What we’re concerned about in terms of our moral behavior is what other people think about us.” So morality became adaptive.

At the same time the capacity for religious belief would also have emerged. Our reputation-conscious ancestors would have experienced a pervasive feeling of being watched and judged, he says, which they would readily have attributed to supernatural sources since the cognitive system underlying theory of mind also seeks to attribute intentionality and meaning, even where there is none. So the same adaptations that led to morality could also have driven the evolution of religion.

Meanwhile, evolutionary biologist David Sloan Wilson of the State University of New York argues that religious practices are also important for group cohesion and are therefore subject to group selection. As humans have become ever more social over the past 100,000 years, and especially from 10,000 years ago, when agriculture led to huge division of labour in societies, religion and morality would have co-evolved as ways to promote social cohesion. “Religion did play a crucial role in giving us our moral nature, at least evolutionarily speaking,” says psychologist Jonathan Haidt from the University of Virginia.

Nowadays, adds Bering, whether we believe in a God or not, the brain architecture that causes us to behave as though we might get caught behaving badly is still present. As a result, atheists are no more likely to be immoral than believers. Indeed, his own
experiments show that, regardless of whether people believe in supernatural beings, both adults and children cheat less when performing a task in private if Bering has first primed them with the idea that there maybe a “god” or a “ghost” watching.

Cultural and technological advances have also changed the way we live, making western liberal societies poor models for understanding the link between religion and morality, according to Haidt. He argues that we are now far more individualistic than our ancestors are. “Technology has changed our lives so we can live in new ways. We can now be moral without religion. We have developed other means of social control,” he says, such as laws, police forces and CCTV cameras.

Yet religion does still have the power to galvanize individuals in any society. Brain- Imaging experiments by Andrew Newberg at the University of Pennsylvania indicate that people in religious or meditative states show a transient decrease in brain activity in regions representing our map of the body and our sense of self. Religious feelings do seem to be quite literally self-less, which may be one of religion’s biggest draws. Many human activities — from music festivals to military service — tap into our powerful urge for group bonding. Haidt believes that we also have an evolved desire to elevate ourselves beyond our own selfish interests to a more helpful, group- oriented and selfless plane.
Haidt says this sense of elevation is mediated through a physiological response in the release of a hormone called oxytocin, which makes us feel happy and good about ourselves. Elevation can come in many forms: we might get it from pursuing a noble goal, doing good, reading great prose, witnessing something skilful, experiencing awe or empathizing with someone else who is feeling good. Still, religious people have an extra source of elevation that many atheists lack — and scientists like Dawkins may do well to realize that even the most logical and articulate argument against religion will never eradicate this evolutionary sense of meaning.

Even if many no longer need religion for social cohesion or moral guidance, and think that atheism is the only rational route, we should nevertheless recognize that religion has had a pivotal role in our evolutionary history. It can still reinforce moral values and work with our innate moral sense. It can also be used to justify immoral behavior towards those who do not embrace our beliefs. Like it or not, religion remains an important part of what we are. •

NewScientistat http://archive.newscientisLcom

Being good is being human
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Is every action a selfish action?
Posted: 9/11/2007 4:33:23 PM

If you include psychological motivations, then you could make an argument that virtually all actions are somewhat selfish in motivation.


The fallacy in that is there is evidence that we are hardwired for altruism. If this is so, then the vast majority of “noble” acts are unselfish, it is just human nature and not a conscious manipulation for future profit. This also takes heaven, as a reward out of the equation.
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Is there more to consciousness than meets our perceptions?
Posted: 9/11/2007 4:16:29 PM
First off, we are indeed talking about seeing the future. (no can do)
Second, your supposed premonition is as "saintgasoline" (cool handle) says. Confirmation bias… Every time I approach the crest of a hill, I move over because I am not able to see the future. Every once in a while some idiot comes shooting over the top in the middle of the road. However I do not see this as premonition ,rather as defensive driving. Life is full of cautions taken with the vast majority being needless concern…but every once in a while you will have saved your butt by the precaution you have taken. Yes some animals seem to know when “people are going to die in hospitals”. “when earthquakes and volcanoes are imminent” This can be explained (and has been) by their keen senses which are several orders of magnitude more powerful than are own. I realize that I am not going to convince you of anything as you make your statements as established facts. Enjoy, see you in the future
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 115 (view)
 
why do men lie about their age?
Posted: 9/10/2007 11:57:51 AM
From my understanding men seek women who are attractive and women seek men who have power and status. (the proof is there for the reading) It is an evolved trait. Historically, just after leaving the trees, power and status came from the ability to physically destroy your opponents. To tell you that I am much younger than I am may cause you to think of me in a more attractive light (self deception yes…but almost hard wired) I may think that when you actually meet me and see how wonderful I am, age won’t matter. By actually stating my real age lower down in my profile I am being a bit more honest. My hope is that you find my profile interesting enough to keep your attention. Many of us “elders” believe that you stop looking the moment you see the age. (Perhaps if POF placed the age at the bottom of the profile this problem would be resolved)

On the other hand women deceive themselves in a different way. Some of you are guilty of using photos from a much younger time. You too are caught up in the evolutionary trap of the males preference for beauty… skin deep though it is.

Give the guy a break, simply point out to him that he is only diminishing his chances of finding “the one”. Do this and us guys should give the girl a break. Peace?
 Rob 300
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 110 (view)
 
why do PEOPLE (men and women) lie about their age?
Posted: 9/9/2007 10:10:24 AM
There is a lot of literature on lying. Societies are built around the concept. Many animals attempt deception, from the bird who feigns a broken wing to protect its nest, to the puffer fish who pretends to be many times its size. We not only attempt to deceive others but we do the same to ourselves. I’ve been tempted to sell myself (selling is what POF is all about) as a younger man, a richer man. I’ve been tempted to us Photoshop to remove wrinkles and add beef(dam good at Photoshop).It’s all part of survival. No big deal…. To balance this we have evolved to see through lies, from the shiftiness of your eyes to the twitching of your cheek muscles, things that we unconsciously analyze, searching for the truth. However the nature of POF allows folk to get away with lying far more easily. Many people are looking for immediate gratification, simply happy with the desired attention that lying brings forth today. This is human nature. Food on the table now. Worry about tomorrow … tomorrow. Have you always been honest to the tax man? Have you ever told the nice police officer that you didn’t see the speed limit sign when you meant to say was you never saw his dammed radar trap. We have all done it …except me of course.

P.S. For a small nominal fee I will Photoshop your pictures for you. I will enhance mammarys, reduce waistlines, dye your hair, add hair, remove hair, remove wrinkles, add a six pack… even wipe that silly smile off your face…have a good day… don’t take any wooden nickels… dang, I just gave my real age away.
 
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