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 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/31/2008 10:28:45 AM
how naive you guys are. he is a 0ne trick pony. Same old same old. thats right someone talks trash and i smack em back to reality. you started this whole thing and in the process your thread became the victim. the detroit tigers are viable team in the AL but your dont want to talk facts you want to talk smack. take your four world series titles in over a hundred years and savor them. Thanks Crazy... support from a one time jets fan turned giants fan whom if you read his post history does exactly what you are accusing me of. detroit tigers 08, who cares? by the way i do currently reside in quebec but i am in no way canadian. so are you going to continue the murder of your thread or are you going to attempt to resuscitate it? the funny thing in this whole mess is that i was the one attempting to get this thing back on topic but you guys cant stop the insults. too bad you destroyed your thread by attempting to discredit me
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 19 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/30/2008 5:08:17 PM
what you accuse me of doing is exactly what you did to me and that you do to others. why are you even here? need to meet your insult quota for the day. you come in here attempting to proclaim my insolence when you use the same tact that you accuse me off. look in a mirror before you accuse the kettle of being black. you went out off your way to insult me and i am the bad guy? some of you never cease to amaze me with your inability to interpret reality. But the truth is the truth about your attitude , you got that right. thats kinda of unavoidable isnt it.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 166 (view)
 
Basketball Predictions?
Posted: 3/30/2008 4:58:47 PM
great basketball over the past days. all number ones in the final four for the first time ever (i think). i cant see kansas stopping UNC and the same for ucla and memphis. unc all the way this year. number two for smith. how about psyco t. cant stop him
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/30/2008 4:32:05 PM
i dont care what you think crazy. re read the post and look who insulted who first. but that doe not matter to someone like you. i will always defend my self and what i believe in. sorry if that insults some people as it obviously does. kaos started attacking my intelligence and i took steps that i felt necessary just like you do crazy all the time. the difference is i have merit and value to my arguments. i am curious what people who disagree with my actions think i should have done. what would have been the appropriate course of action? i would not change a thing. so crazy the ex jets fan turned giants fan, thanks for your two cents worth. fair market value with inflation accounted for. if my actions are interpreted as the bad guy then i apologize but not to those who attack me first. that is not my intention but i will defend my self. the yankees will finish the season with a better record than the tigers and i truly hope we see them in the postseason because we have a little payback for them
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/30/2008 12:40:17 PM
you are the inmature little child. you are the one who began flinging insults first. its not anger either it is called passion. reality will be your messenger. i will admit that your batting line up is impressive but your bullpen is a joke and we will see how your starting pitching pans out. 162 game regular season is about to begin and i am excited. time to pound on the jays. i came in here to defend yankee honor, the easiest argument in all of sports, mission accomplished. sumer wannabe with fans like you who needs boston, giving up before the season even begins. so insignificant chaos talk your smack. you have your team donning rings before the season even begins, you and summer wannabe are a perfect match. got a lot to learn about baseball
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/30/2008 7:29:43 AM
Bottom line is the Yanks haven't won their last game in quite awhile. to be exact the year was 2000. fresh in my memory and still trying to be forgotten by many met fans. when was the last time detroit won? 1984 is the answer. at least we have gotten it done in recent memory. your bullpen is a joke. i predict the tigers are going to lead the league in blown saves. todd jones what a joke. bottom line is your wishful thinking will be crushed by the all star break. enjoy the season. the rangers are in the playoffs this year or was that more of your over my head subtle sarcasm. nothing you have said was over my head you are just good for a laugh.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/29/2008 4:42:55 PM
unlike the braves we won four world series during that run. we did not win any when our payroll peaked either. common argument with no merit to it. in conclusion the yankees equalled in a five year period what your tiger franchise has accomplished in their entire existence. i would like to wish you good luck this season but i cant. i will let reality bring the facts to you. and by the way you might want to check who did knock out the yanks last year it was not your guys.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
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You Were Attracted - But Now Your Not!
Posted: 3/29/2008 4:32:25 PM
those rules sound good and in theory are hard to argue with. if i followed those rules i would still be a virgin along with 97.5% (maybe more) of the world. touch needs to be bumped up if you want it to be realistic at all and not merely wishful thinking. then again maybe thats the solution to overpopulation.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/29/2008 4:20:57 PM
that would be a surprise considering we have made it for like 12 years straight. how is the tigers post season record over the last 12? your enthusiasm is cute
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Detroit Tigers 2008
Posted: 3/29/2008 4:03:09 PM
well after the summerwannabe yankee fan bent over and let the tigers have his way with him i am here to represent the real yank fans. the bronx crew is not laying down for anyone. the tigers pitching is going to implode this year and the young arms of the yanks are going to do just fine along with the veteran presence on the way to the 27th world championship. GOT RINGS?????? never enough and no compromises
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 35 (view)
 
MLS expansion - Philadelphia 16th team
Posted: 3/19/2008 10:20:28 AM
citizens of the united states show a great deal of passion in relation to sports. you know not of which you speak. another weak european jab at the iron jaw of the US.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
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Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/19/2008 10:06:20 AM
I am the blind leading the blind. that is one of the few statements that you ever made that makes any sense. still seventeen, and little brain on the prairie. lead on wiz of naught. quite an awe inspiring army you are assembling. "maybe" if the three of you combine your intellects you might be able to find the answer which eludes you. sometimes the reward is found during the journey. if you arrive at the end feeling devoid of conclusion then the meaning escaped you. use caution when attempting to get on the boat, check to see if someone is rocking it first.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 146 (view)
 
Basketball Predictions?
Posted: 3/19/2008 9:39:52 AM
i am pretty sure pick was joking, i watched part of that game also, not impressed at all. easy first round win for UNC. i am a tarheel fan also. this tournament is one of the greatest sporting events in the world. march madness is here right before the start of the MLB season. life is good
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
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Who is your favourite MMA fighter, and why?
Posted: 3/18/2008 12:02:56 PM
wanderlay(sp?) silva is my favorite. even though he seems to have lost something recently. rampage is pretty awsome in my opinion also. wandy is just plain scary looking and if he connects in his initial outburst, night night. rampage i like because of some of the amazing KOs and slams he has done. the one where he picks the dude up over his head and slams him down knocking him out. his head bounces off the canvas and smashes into rampage giving him a huge gash. brutal
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 64 (view)
 
Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/18/2008 11:05:36 AM
OMG are you thick. the answer to the question you ask is littered through out my posts. i cant help it if you cant see it. i am not dodging questions, i have answered it over and over. this is simply the latest example of something just not what you think. to be perfectly clear i am not going to elaborate any further pundit. if you want the answer try reading my posts with comprehension as your goal. oh, but you dont read my posts you just respond to them. now your clueless posts make sense to me.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 61 (view)
 
Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/18/2008 8:34:48 AM
i must speak a different language than you two fools do. its over for me as i can not explain myself any better. i am sure someone out there must have understood what i was trying to convey, if not, oh well. pundit go back to pretending to not read my posts and hopefully you are holding your breath waiting for a response.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 59 (view)
 
Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/18/2008 8:11:51 AM
i must speak a different language than you two fools do. its over for me as i can not explain myself any better. i am sure someone out there must have understood what i was trying to convey, if not, oh well. pundit go back to pretending to not read my posts and hopefully you are holding your breath waiting for a response.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 120 (view)
 
How good is Tom Brady?
Posted: 3/18/2008 7:47:18 AM
for the memory challenged. there was also a thread that appeared right before the playoffs about who was the greatest quarterback ever that i can not locate now, seems to be gone. there were many advocates of brady being the best ever and this is what i have been speaking of
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 53 (view)
 
Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/17/2008 10:48:44 AM
once again the ship sails and pundit and his apparent son wiz are stuck on shore(that means you missed the boat). you both have the ability to read something and arrive at a completely unintentional conclusion. it is very clear that you dont read my posts with the clueless responses you post. try reading even slower and there still might be hope for you to understand my words, im not holding my breath. you misunderstand almost all my words and then you get so emotional responding to things that i did not even say. Don't give yourself so much credit Fishernick. I stopped reading any of your posts months ago. if you want to pretend to not read my posts try not responding to them, credability revoked. if you all read my first post on this you will notice that i end it with enjoy pat fans. i could not of been a more obvious trap but you still walk right in. this is truly, plenty of fish. so more words to misinterpret, i am curious how your minds will spin these. i respect and admire brady and have never said differently. it always fun tools.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 136 (view)
 
Basketball Predictions?
Posted: 3/17/2008 8:33:20 AM
too late for the name calling, he used that card right out of the gate. hey wiz for the first time in my life and probably the last time i will be rooting for the celts. the rocket has run out of fuel and will be crashing into earth.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 50 (view)
 
Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/17/2008 8:23:11 AM
So for all those(only me) who say that Brady is overrated, explain to me exactly HOW he can be considered "overrated"? He wasn't rated at all prior to his accomplishments!! read really slowly and maybe this time you might understand the words i am using. i think brady is the most overrated QB of all time. he was annointed the best ever before he had the experience, the records or the hardware. he could still potentially live up to those expectations but he is not there yet. enjoy pat fans. to be a little more clear. since most people seem to have short term memory problems at the end of last season there was a major debate in the NFL about whether or not brady was the best quarterback ever. ridiculous and dillusional patriot nation invented garbage. brady is a great quarterback but still has some work to do to even be in the greatest ever conversation. overrated in the best ever since. not overrated as a elite quarterback. thats about as clear as i can be wiz and pun, so i am hoping that you will not misinterpret my words again
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 134 (view)
 
Basketball Predictions?
Posted: 3/17/2008 8:06:07 AM
man, are you a child. forgive me for posting in the kaibs only forum. Hey ****face just because I said like EVERYONE else that they were most likely screwed doesnt mean that I didnt still SUPPORT my team. when you say your teams is ****ed that does translate into i dont support my team it is over. paper tiger ming has been revealed. the most uncoordinated player in the nba, they lose him and they cant lose. tmac is the real leader of the team. i am not a suns fan anyway. i thought a basketball oracle such as your self would of known that. You're a tad bit on the retarded side mate. what a piece of work you are. i would like to talk about basketball from time to time. but with a basketball natzi within the forum walls i hold back. try to participate not annoy mate.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 57 (view)
 
Crosby or Ovechkan?
Posted: 3/14/2008 10:12:24 AM
as a casual hockey observer i would have to vote for ovechkin. crosby has moments of brilliance but most of the time he makes people around him better and blends in. ovechkin stands out like a sore thumb. alex's speed and creativity are unparalleled presently
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 128 (view)
 
Basketball Predictions?
Posted: 3/14/2008 10:06:05 AM
Yeah... my rockets are ****ed. I can accept that. all you do is bash the suns and you cant even support your own team. the suns are going to win it all this year. they are geting it together just before the playoffs and they will be unstoppable . it was a huge transition of style they had to accomodate with the shaq addition. place your bets now. suns over the celtics in six
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 1:13:16 PM
People say everybody has their right to their own opinion, but I say not everybody can be smart.... you are right about that one wiz. So you are saying that Eli is better than Brady? just where did you get that info from? But he is not there yet? no his is not the best ever yet. nice to see you have not worked on your reading comprehension skills. it is almost like you can not understand my words. nice to interact with you again wiz.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
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Steroids in MMA?
Posted: 3/10/2008 1:06:51 PM
believe it or not i read your 2 and a half sentence post in it entirety. you were not that clear with your words shakespeare. are you aware of the meaning of a question mark" stop raging buddy and calm down as my original post was not necessarily directed at you. forums are for peoples opinions not just what you want to hear.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Steroids in MMA?
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:36:47 AM
Steroids in MMA? more like Steroids in MMA!!! are you really questioning that? it still amazes me how naive people are. another newsflash fir ya, the wwe (or whatever label the steroids soap opera is currently using) also uses roids. enjoy your retirement brett, riding off into the sunset without a ripple of controversy. by the way there is plenty that MMA could do if they choose to attempt to stop roids use
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
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Who is the most overrated quarterback of all time?
Posted: 3/10/2008 8:25:44 AM
good post denny, it makes a lot of sense. the only thing i have a beef with is about eli being over rated. he was under rated. practically everyone i heard comment on eli before the playoffs were saying how much of a bust he was and how he could not get it done in the big games(tiki). i have watched nearly every snap eli has taken during his career and i know he can play football. i have yet to see him give up. if what he did during the 4th quarter of the superbowl does not convince people that he can play then i dont know what will.

i think brady is the most overrated QB of all time. he was annointed the best ever before he had the experience, the records or the hardware. he could still potentially live up to those expectations but he is not there yet. enjoy pat fans.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
Being ripped off by a contractor
Posted: 3/4/2008 9:48:34 AM
i have been sourrounded by general contracting all my life. while i know there are scammers out there i also know there are just as many honest individuals. one thing i have noticed about the average customer is that most of them dont have a clue how much it costs to do something correctly. i have seen people who when provided a estimate have accused contractors of attempting to rip them off. so while i see all this outrage pointed at contractors i know some is legit and some is bull. detailed contracts will eliminate most of the problems people are having. there is another side of the story: contractors being ripped off by customers. this happens just as frequently. contracts, contracts, contracts
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 50 (view)
 
Favorite Song When You R Mad
Posted: 3/1/2008 4:15:01 PM
hey do you think i could get your autograph? done and done.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
Favorite Song When You R Mad
Posted: 2/29/2008 3:33:19 PM
so supposedly you booked one show over 10 years ago , wow. I think it's laughable that you think he's such a rock star that nobody could possibly know him. when did i say he was such a big rockstar? i doubted that you knew him. I don't know him super well either, only through booking that show. now you verified it. where in my posts did i ever compare him to elvis? If Hatebreed has you believing that they are like Elvis or some sh1t like that then that is truly sad. i dont know why you keep providing me links, like i give a fuct. I toned up at the gym a lot since this photo so don't judge. that one almost captured my curiosity but i refrained. there is a deeper meaning to hatebreeds music that you are missing, they truly have substance to thier work. hidden within the noise is a clarity that you have failed to see. i like hatebreed you dont. you choose to voice your opinion against mine. in the future could you attempt to refute comments that i actually made
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 42 (view)
 
Favorite Song When You R Mad
Posted: 2/27/2008 10:38:25 AM
He's completely full of BS, like you insinuating that you know him personally. i have not had the oppurtunity to gauge his personality through first hand experience. the views that the band preaches are empowering and typically positive. the music is greater than the man in this circumstance. regardless of his personality the message is the moral. why am i wasting my time with someone who thinks tread on me is cool and has the audacity to badmouth hatebreed. maybe you do know jasta and thats why he is so pissed. i should not have assumed that you are a liar so quickly. decimate what threatens me, obliterate what makes us weak, destroy everything that tries to infect.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 39 (view)
 
Favorite Song When You R Mad
Posted: 2/26/2008 5:17:02 PM
I can't stand Hatebreed. um, why did you decide to add that to your post. believe it or not even with you voicing your influential opinion i am still going to keep my own. metallica used to be good at one point in time but the dont tread on me was after they sold out. a weak redneck theme song. i have a hard time understanding why you would not just add your opinion without throwing in the fact that you hate mine. i actually am relieved that you dont like hatebreed. morbid angel? what do you like about that crap? it is just a bunch of devil worshiping noise. hatebreed has a strength and positivity about them that few ever identify. i am glad you dont see it.

4. Maze Of Torment

[Music: Azagthoth]
[Lyrics: Vincent]

Life betrayal - a warping rage
Evil ripping caverns through your mind
Immolation - in blood you've signed your soul away
Sickening life ends but the horror has just begun
Vultures moaning a funeral dirge
Walls await to cradle you and rip your soul apart
Incessant screams echoes through the maze
Insanity approaches - imminent demise

Maze of torment...[X3]
(Maze of death)

Stricken from the holy book - deliverance to pain
Effigy of jesus christ burning in your mind
Voices cry out to bid you welcome
Locked within the dungeons of darkness - no escape!!

[Solo: Azagthoth]

Passing through corridors embedded with
Scars of those who have gone before you
And left their marks

Warning comes too late to save you now
Visions of suffering stab from the inside

You pray for death
Mourning does no good as you can only die once

Souls are being raped by the maze
Lost in these halls... endlessly

[Solo: Brunelle]
[Solo: Azagthoth]

Maze of torment...[X3]
(Maze of death)

1. Smash Your Enemies

I hope I'm alive.
To witness your demise.
Make you feel my sorrow.
Encompass all my pain.
That I've felt for years.
Dreading each dying day.
Hanging by a thread.
On the edge of my sanity.

When I wake up the real nightmare begins.

Will I make it through my time
in living hell?
Do I possess the strength to
smash my fears into the ground?
I've tried to be strong.
I've tried to overcome but
I don't think I possess the
strength to carry on.
I'm torn between, and there's
no right choice.
I've gotta fight back.
I won't be scarred for life.

so while you are empowered by religous rhetoric and overwhelming negativity i find strength in reality. i am sure that the average person will not see positivity in the hatebreed lyrics i provided but they are there. where as there is not enough spin in the world to make morbid angels preachings positive. hey maybe one day you can get your chance at the maze who knows? i will stick to hatebreed and you can have morbid angel. why start agreeing now?
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 32 (view)
 
French language laws in Quebec undemocratic
Posted: 2/23/2008 6:41:10 PM
as a solution or peace offering to english speakers in quebec, the school systems have lowered thier age limit and started "educating" students in english at younger ages. i believe now the teaching begins at 2nd grade and remains through out the public schooling system. i have two children who are currently involved in the school system. i have to say that in my opinion the school my children are attending shows little ability to teach the english language. my children have an advantage because they speak english already. recently after having perpetually top of the class grades one of my children recieved a 50% grade in english. i was baffled. i calmly investigated the situation. even though generally my kids behave well i did not discount that they could be the problem. i talked it over with the child in question and they told me that everything had been normal. nothing had changed, they participated as usual, did thier homework and did fine on the tests. eventually the teacher was approached and questioned. apparently the teacher was not even aware that my child could even speak english, slight oversight. at my childrens school i would estimate that less than 10% of the students can speak english. i am still not clear as to why my child was given the grades they recieved because the situation has not reached a conclusion as of yet. i guess what i am trying to say is that in the school my children attend they do not take the prospect of teaching (or grading) english very seriously. watching english movies and reciting the alphabet year after year just does not cut it. fortunatley i am not depending on the system to teach my kids english.

i read a comment earlier that was something about the french speakers in quebec thinking they speak english better than they actually do. so true. when i came here i came under the guise that it was a mainly bilingual city. BS. that is not even close to being true. the funny thing is when you talk to someone from here they truly think that most people do speak english. one poster mentioned going into a store and the clerk could not speak french so they walked out. i bet that clerk could not speak english either. i have become an expert at charades and non verbal comunication. typically the accents are so thick that i have all i can do to understand if i ever get that far. i am an outsider in montreal. i am learning french. there is nothing wrong with protecting your heritage. its really none of my buisness.

maybe i should make it clear that i am only talking about montreal. i realize quebec is large and i know little about montreal and even less about the rest of quebec
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 6 (view)
 
HABS COMEBACK SPECIAL....(for hockey fans)!!!!
Posted: 2/20/2008 5:12:22 PM
a little story in relation to last nights habs game. i am an american living currently in montreal. i have been here for around two years. before i came here i would not of been able to tell you what a hab was. i was your typical american in relation to hockey. so last night i was watching the game with a girlfriend. i have watched many games with this person. i have had to battle through a lifetime of conditioned hockey prejudice in order to give hockey a fair shake. i will admit the sport has been growing on me, shhhh, dont tell her. i believe the third period started and the score was 5-2. she wanted to turn the channel. i would not turn the channel. i am always telling her to stick out games until there is no chance otherwise you might miss something memorable. sometimes the best games start out as the worst games. i might not know hockey that well but i know sports pretty well and i was trying to point out to her that it was not over yet. she was not hearing any of what i was saying. she is a very emotional fan. i was telling her that if the rangers scored it was pretty much over but if the habs could get a goal it would give the habs new life.

so the first six or seven minutes of the third period go by (i think) and nothing happens. for some reason there was a commercial break and i was telling her that the canadiens need to score now. she was begging me to turn the channel because she hated seeing her team losing. well we all know what happened. it was an entertaining game to say the least and watching her experience the largest comeback in franchise history was something else. i dont like when i see fans of a team give up on their team prematurely. like fans who left the habs game early yesterday and missed the comeback, they did not deserve to see it.

the moral of the story is do not give up on your team until the game reaches a point of no return. the greatest comebacks in sports history are probably some of the least viewed events. i guess i am a glutton for punishment because i sit through a lot of heartache to rarely witness a special occurence. i dont really remember the bad stuff but the incredible moments have a special space in my memory. i still have a question though, what is a hab? technically, i dont want to ask her because for some reason i think i would appear like a dumb azz even more than usual in regards to hockey questions
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Lunar eclipse on wednesday - last one till 2010
Posted: 2/20/2008 4:41:59 PM
the estimated time that the partial eclipse is supposed to begin is 843 pm eastern. about one hour an eighteen minutes later it should be fully shaded. the total eclipse is supposed to last 51 minutes before the shadow retreats. so aroung 10 pm et the full lunar eclipse should be available for viewing, weather dependent. thanks OP for the heads up, hopefully now the weather will cooperate.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 49 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/19/2008 11:44:45 AM
it is not a question about whether or not society is looking at sports through blind eyes. they are looking at baseball through a microscope and the press and society look at all other sports with blind eyes. its a huge double standard. i said it before and i will say it again. fan of sports other than baseball should be happy that baseball is taking the brunt of the assault. the press is overhyping the baseball press to deflect attention away from the real issues like the NFL the number one abuser of PES. it is marketing genious at work
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 45 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/18/2008 1:24:48 PM
another addition to the PES soap apera played out today with the andy pettitte press conference. with giardi to his right and cashman to his left pettitte went through his hour long press conference. before the conference began it was stated by the yankees organization that this would be the one and only time andy addressed these issues and that there would be no restrictions on the questions topics. after watching the whole thing i am sure that the no restrictions statement was a bunch of BS. he would not comment on any questions concerning how he felt about roger clemens misheard and misremembering comments. andy only said that mcnamee told the truth about pettitte and the testimony that he (pettitte) provided was truthful. i wanted andy to say i remember that conversation like it happened yesterday and i am not lying, roger clemens is the one lying. andy pettitte said he was sorry and that he made a mistake. if he could do it all over again he would not take HGH. so with mo, jorgy and derek there for support andy made it through this difficult day. i wish his statements regarding his and rogers conflicting testimony could have been addressed more decisively, but this is what we are left with. this episode slightly strenghtened my opinion that roger is guilty.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 41 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/17/2008 3:01:56 PM
you know pickmy maybe you are one of the only ones whos right, about his innocence. as far as i was concerned before wenesday there was no legitimate evidence against clemens. there still is no definitive proof or even close. pettitte and the details about rogers wife really shifted my opinion. maybe debbie clemens just made a grossly idiotic error in judgement. who knows? we were not there. pettittes word is not absolute. i would like to hear more from pettitte about his testimony and have him corroborate his statements. i am still not sure why andy was not there on wenesday. his presence would have really established credability for his testimony. the aspect that bothers me about the pettitte testimony is that the two of them are supposed to be very good friends. andy says that him and roger only spoke on the subject of PES on two occassions, and on the second time roger denied the first instance. that seems very unrealistic to me. these men played on the same team for nine years(i think). all that time spent traveling and training together and only two conversations? very fishy. i want roger to be proven innocent. i am sick of people i have admired and respected being discredited and humiliated publically. humiliation is entertaining though i guess.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Lunar eclipse on wednesday - last one till 2010
Posted: 2/17/2008 7:32:33 AM
lets just hope that the gravitational effect does not cause any events of consequence. i was not aware of the impending eclipse but look forward to viewing it. hopefully it will be a clear night and a overall peacful event.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Put the lid back on the Mayo...Your Mr. Kraft...
Posted: 2/17/2008 7:15:25 AM
i thought redundant threads got deleted. just because it has a witty title does not change the fact that this is another spygate thread. the giants won the superbowl. i am sick of hearing about the patriots. maybe proof may surface eventually but so far there is only speculation. now the patriots are experiencing a trial by media just as clemens went through. how does it feel?
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 37 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/17/2008 7:08:40 AM
only after the recently provided evidence against clemens has my opinion changed from neutral to i feel he is more likely guilty than innocent. for those who thinks its funny that im finally realizing his guilt you are the people i have been laughing at the whole time. since wenesdays congressional soap opera many respected legal analysts have been asked what thier opinion was in reference to the likely hood of roger being convicted based on the current level of evidence available. everyone that i have heard has said that there is not a chance that he will be convicted of anything without any further evidence. although the american judicial system sometimes resembles the "any given sunday" philosophy. a bunch of "what ifs" do nothing for me but apparently "what ifs" have been enough for the majority of people before wenesdays latest evidence introductions.

what kind of evidence would i want to be more resolved in my opinion? how about a positive drug test for starters. what about an admission from clemens himself. i want more "credible" witnesses alleging first hand knowledge of clemens steroid use. i want legitimate proof not tabloid proof and what ifs. hopefully more relevent information will come to light
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 33 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/16/2008 3:06:17 PM
three years after he retired rose agreed to permanent ineligibility. the reason he agreed to this condition was because baseball promised to not pursue the gambling allegations any further. rose was aware of the proof that MLB posessed and folded like a cheap suit. if he never bet against his own team i dont feel he would of done that. he admitted his guilt in 2004 (partially) in the gambling issues that he was accused of. roger clemens and barry bonds have not been found guilty of anything up til this point and have not admitted anything. pete rose, or charlie hustle, was a amazing player. he was certainly in a league of his own. even though he has never admitted to betting against his own team that he coached i believe he did. pete rose placed daily wagers on the team he coached. rose was so consumed with his gambling addiction that he was not always concerned with winning the game. he considered the bets he placed and tried to tweak the games accordingly. i feel it is a shame that a player of roses caliber is denied the hall of fame but i think it is warranted. i hope more evidence surfaces against bonds and clemens that will make their guilt even more obvious.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 32 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/16/2008 11:23:57 AM
whatever cocy, your post are empty of meaning.you dont even try to remain on track within the forum. now you are focused on me. you whine about me not providing you with factual evidence. im not your errand boy. i can produce study after study with a few key words entered into almost any search engine. im sure you can find someone to hold your hand for you and walk you through the procedure. i have wasted enough time on you. i dont give a shite about my spelling, obviously. you just pointed that petty point out so you could be right about something, good for you. feel better now? you keep making ridiculous statements and avoiding my questions. you made a statement that is absolutley absurd, steroids only benefit top tier athletes or that might not have any benefit at all. that is plain and simply utter stupidity. i am not the best speller but at least i have common sense and some basic deductive reasoning skills. since you no longer have anything of value to say im done with you, bye bye
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Ritalin = Unfair Academic Advantage?
Posted: 2/15/2008 4:37:13 PM
its very similiar and related. the topic is coming up now in the sporting world. ritalin is a performance enhancing substance. right now it is being abused by athletes that do not really have a problem that the drug is intended to treat.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/15/2008 12:31:51 PM
Thinking something...and show proof that you think is not just an opinion, but fact, are two different things. you got me there

there are many scientific studies that have been done in the past and are presently occuring. i am not going to educate you by supplying these references. open your eyes. how many world records or gold medals have been forfeited because of PES use? you ever watch wrestling? notice anything unusual about the size of the actors? thats just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to proof that is available if society chooses to take their blinders off. we are never going to know when roger clemens started taking PES unless one day roger decides to come clean. for your information steroids were around before 1984 so it is possible that he could of taken them his entire professional career.

presently for the most part this discussion is speculatory. somebody is wrong and somebody is right. thats undeniable. my theorys just make a lot more sense than yours. PES do have dramatic effects on the users. to say that they might only work on some people and or that they dont work at all is absurd. i went to highschool in the early ninetys and my school was pretty small and isolated. i know for a fact that there were several members of the football team using steroids. the results were dramatic. they became physically more muscular and mentally more agressive. the size helped them with power which benefited them on the field. the added agression was another benefit in the sports world. being able to turn on an aggression switch more easily is extremely beneficial when playing sports. i do not need irrefutable evidence to form a intelligent opinion on the effects of PES. regardless of how much proof there is available there is always going to be ways of discrediting something anyway.

i asked if PES have the ability to make decisions. how do PES manage to differentiate between highly skilled athletes and all the rest of people. i am very curious to hear your explanation.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 25 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/15/2008 10:24:48 AM
unless you already HAVE superior athletic ability, its unlikely that steroid use will improve your ability. and without studies determining the levels of improvement, its all speculative anyway.

what a load of crap. the only point you made with any merit is that its all speculative. there was a time when people did not realize that cigarette smoking was bad for them. it tooks decades upon decades of research to only recently begin to convince people of its negative effects. there are still mental incompetents that still dont accept this fact. the point is that there were people who said smoking was bad but there was no proof. that does not mean they were wrong just unsubstantiated with their opinion. with PES all we can do is make a educated guess as to the effects combined with the relatively small amount of research that is available combined with the statistical evidence that is undeniable. i did not miss your point as you suggest again, i disagree with your point. PES have a effect on all the athletes that use them, to suggest otherwise makes no sense what so ever. they make terrible players ok, they make ok players good, they make good players great and they make great players legends. have people payed any attention to the evolution of the PES conceptions. not to long ago people thought in baseball that PES would only be of benefit for power hitters, that was the accepted theory recently and how absurd was that? peoples understanding of PES effects are constantly evolving. my opinions on PES effects will be substantiated in the future. unless you already HAVE superior athletic ability, it's unlikely that steroid use will improve your ability. if you would just put some thought into that sentence you would see how fundamentally flawed it is. do PES have an on/off switch that only turns on if they have determined whether or not the recipient possesses superior athletic ability? the answer is most obviously no. the evolution is not complete with PES. until society accepts that PES are present in all sports worldwide and commit to eliminate them this is not over. the NHL is a good example of a group that is oblivious to PES within their sport. i am not attempting to offend NHL fans but they should be very thankful that baseball is the whipping post for this problem and deflecting attention away from other sports. the NHL might get through this ugly episode in sports with little to no attention. anyone who thinks that this problem is only occuring in baseball is looking at the world through rose colored glasses
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 22 (view)
 
roger clemens...
Posted: 2/15/2008 7:44:41 AM
barry bonds holds the record for most homeruns in a single season. clemens is number eight on the all time MLB list in wins. there is one modern era player ahead of him and greg maddux is only nine games behind him.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
In Their Primes...Ali Vs Tyson..Winner?
Posted: 2/14/2008 4:11:13 PM
i think ali would take it but it would be close. ali would have to weather the storm as i predict he could but mike was a very dangerous man. for the people who think mike was in his prime when he began his losing ways, your crazy. before buster the one hit wonder knocked him out he had never even been knocked down in his professional career. the beginning of the end. when he fought buster he was co cky and not conditioned properly because he would not listen to anyone. mike was in his prime around two years before that fight. with all of mikes public stupidity it is very easy for most people to forget how dominant mike tyson was. mike tyson in his prime was one of the best heavyweights ever. if he would have been coachable i think he would of had a chance to be the best ever. my opinions people.
 fishernick
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 140 (view)
 
Which sport is tougher on the body: hockey or soccer?
Posted: 2/14/2008 12:14:16 PM
its ridiculous to attempt to have a discussion with pedro unless you are supporting everything he says. he is always right so why oppose him. dont you know by now that everything across the pond is harder to do, better to play , and more interesting to watch and support. all sports we poorly attempt to do here are just derived from the great history of european sports. every north american sport is highly inferior and we are all second class compared to europeans. when are we going to wake up and start worshiping the monarchy again. we need a forum about second rate sports so we no longer offend the grand wisdom of pedro. soccer has to be tougher on the body because he says so, i will accept his unfailable knowledge.
 
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