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 Author Thread: Transformed by love or break-up
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 38 (view)
 
Transformed by love or break-up
Posted: 11/24/2008 6:32:36 PM
Every experience in life, positive, negative, even those that seem inconsequential when they occur changes a person.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Would guys date a pregnant woman?
Posted: 11/24/2008 6:29:15 PM
No on the pregnant woman, no on someone who can't deal with being alone.

Pregnancy isn't a huge problem really, but women tend to be less rational and more demanding during that time.

Women who aren't capable of handling their lives outside of a relationship are too needy for me to tolerate.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Showing off
Posted: 10/9/2008 2:41:33 PM
You know that the peacocks with the brightly colored feathers are the males, right?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 19 (view)
 
birthday Date Ideas...
Posted: 10/9/2008 2:40:01 PM
Do you have a really hot friend?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 143 (view)
 
bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 8/24/2008 5:57:53 PM

I'd be pissed off if I didn't get to participate in the night hehe


Now there's someone I'd be compatible with.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 127 (view)
 
bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 8/23/2008 10:38:26 AM

she has every right to be upset....i don't agree with bachelor/bacheloret parties anyway...why would someone who is about to get married wanna see anyone else naket anyway??? to me thats cheating anyway and if they need that party before marriage then there not ready to settle down yet


Interesting. This could be a useful touchstone in judging your compatibility with someone. I don't believe you are wrong here, as it's impossible to be wrong. Your position on the morality of these actions is very true and real for you. Mine is different, and therefor we would be poor partners, but this doesn't make either of us wrong as long as one of us doesn't attempt to foist their version of morality on the other.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
Ugly Guys
Posted: 8/21/2008 2:51:43 PM

Of course, those are all guys that haven't first been rejected on the basis of looks... so it just means you don't mind having a smaller target audience.


She's hot. Perhaps a bit particular or narrow minded, but hot. Hot chicks can be choosy, maybe it's not fair, but it's reality.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Back to the Future...we're here! Dissapointed much?
Posted: 8/21/2008 1:12:04 PM
Dude, excellent topic!

I was just thinking of that old '70s sci-fi movie Logan's Run, and I remember this dude was basically surfing his teleporter for a woman to have sex with. Sadly, we still don't seem to be there technologically.

I'd like to add the Ducati Desmosedici, and the iPhone to pros about the future. I'd add internet dating and increased tubbiness as cons.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 115 (view)
 
bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 8/21/2008 1:02:17 PM
Strippers? Sure, it's a time honored tradition. Providing it doesn't get out of hand.

Porn? Kinda blah really, to me. I mean, I like my porn just fine, but sitting around with all my buddies drinking and watching porn? Nah, I'd rather play Madden.

Live sex shows? A bit further along the continuum, but as long as his naughty bits stay out of her naughty bits (really ALL of his bits should never come in contact with ANY of her bits) then I suppose that's OK.

Prostitution? Now we've crossed the line into infidelity. I'm certainly no moral high-horseman, but getting it from a hooker shortly before you're about to commit to someone for a lifetime seems pretty disrespectful.

The bottom line, before the bachelor/bachelorette party is planned both halves of the couple need to understand the moral objections and boundaries of the other half. If you don't know the person well enough to know these things then you probably shouldn't be marrying them.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Why do men show their car engines on their profiles?
Posted: 7/25/2008 1:50:26 PM

Wait until you get to know him before you go calling him a gentleman


True 'dat. I'm polite, but not sure how gentle I am. My best friends kid refuses to wrassle anymore. Says I'm 'mean'.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
Why do men show their car engines on their profiles?
Posted: 7/25/2008 11:47:07 AM

Having recently joined POF, I wasn't aware of the other 15 threads...thanks for informing me in such a kind and welcoming way. I am sure you're having lots of success here of POF....keep up the great attitude!


OK, you got me. I'm usually a voice for diplomacy around here. I read more into your post than you might have intended and I apologize.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
How to handle these sensitive and potentially embarrassing situations
Posted: 7/25/2008 11:44:02 AM

Let me get this straight. You're a grown man, that has never been married, who is fat. You are judgmental and superficial and we're supposed to tell you how to handle it? I agree deoderant is needed, but sounds to me like you're probably lucky to be seeing anything in terms of a woman's body from what I see of your profile. May I suggest thanking your lucky stars and leaving it at that?


Wow, hateful much? It's an offbeat but honest inquiry. I think you're hiding a raging sea of insecurity in there somewhere.

My advice to the OP is to search your mind for some diplomatic way of addressing the situation that's in keeping with your character. Be honest, be kind, be SUPPORTIVE, but don't ignore it, and don't just try to 'get over it'. It WILL come back and bite you in the ass. (and probably leave some nasty marks)
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Why do men show their car engines on their profiles?
Posted: 7/25/2008 10:32:39 AM
Seriously? This is like the sixteenth "why do men have pictures of (insert random item here) in their profile?" thread.

They have those pictures because they like engines, or motorcycles, or mountain climbing, or blonde girls with large breasts, or friggin' fairy princesses.

Ask THEM. Each dude is an individual, and the photos a dude puts in his profile are a very individual choice. If you don't like it, don't message the guy. If you like him but aren't sure why he put a picture of (insert random item here) in his profile, then e-mail him and ask him. Wow, what a great conversation starter! :gasp:
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 58 (view)
 
Do any of you guys actually ENJOY subtle or ambiguous sexual tension on dates?
Posted: 7/24/2008 7:03:26 PM
Subtle or ambiguous sexual tension? Is that when you pretend we're gonna do it, but we're really not? Isn't that called teasing?

I'm going to vote no.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Working or on the dole?
Posted: 7/24/2008 7:01:47 PM

Could you please tell me, do you prefer to have a long reletionship with a woman that was her own job and is able to keep herself, or do you prefer to have a woman that lives on benefit and/or is anemployed? And why?


Which one's hotter?

 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Answer This
Posted: 7/24/2008 6:34:03 PM
Dude, you're a misogynist. My guess is that until you have some kind of epiphany you'll continue to be lonely.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 34 (view)
 
What do I do when American men are ...
Posted: 7/24/2008 6:24:38 PM

They are nice people but laugh at themselves are a lil bit too harsh and pointless.


A self deprecating sense of humor is generally considered a positive thing in USAian culture.

Nerds have learned to use it to hide the pain of social awkwardness.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Is he out of my league? Or a misunderstanding?
Posted: 7/24/2008 10:47:15 AM
OP, two points to make right off the bat. First, there are no such things as 'leagues' when it comes to dating. The only people who are out of your league are those whom you don't feel confident enough to approach for some reason. Second, if there WERE such a thing as leagues, there wouldn't be anyone out of yours. You're beautiful, you've got a brain, and a personality. Let me reiterate, no leagues, if there WERE leagues, no one out of yours exists.

Now then, I think you might want to relax your approach to dating a little bit. At your age (I was once your age, y'know) most guys are more about the having fun, not diving right into commitment thing (yes, there are exceptions). Wanting to discuss anything more than the second date immediately following the first is going to make some guys back off a bit.

You're gorgeous, go out and have a good time. Enjoy being young in an interesting world. Relationships will most likely come in their own time.

Good luck, and good fishing.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Emotional women - what do you think?
Posted: 7/24/2008 7:17:10 AM

Does this happen? Is this ok with you guys or do you not "automatically forgive?"


It's not OK, and I don't automatically forgive. I prefer a woman who can exercise bit of circumspection or self-restraint.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
What do I do when American men are ...
Posted: 7/24/2008 5:47:38 AM

If you are an engineer, it is a good start.
If you are a smart engineer, you can be very successful.
If you are a smart engineer with a personality, you can take over the world!


Mish Man speaks much truth. Also, if you can learn geek culture you stand a much better chance of knowing how to manage them.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
marking territory
Posted: 7/23/2008 10:38:15 AM

whew, I thought your boyfriend was pissing on the furniture.


Or on his girlfriend!
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
why not just say I don't think this is going anywhere?
Posted: 7/23/2008 8:10:17 AM

I said this to my ex.. and he still doesnt understand


Well, to be fair Limeshines, I'd have a hard time letting you go too.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
High Maintenance Woman
Posted: 7/23/2008 8:03:31 AM
I wonder.. is it possible to be high maintenance but not at the same time??


Part of the problem is that there's no simple definition of 'high maintenance'. It can mean a lot of different things contextually, and has differing connotations depending on who you talk to.

I don't think, personally, that having high standards makes you high maintenance. My personal take on 'high maintenance' is that you have higher (and unreasonable) expectations regarding how you'll be treated. 'Rules girls' would fit my definition of high maintenance.

edited to add: By the way limeshines, I didn't mean that YOU necessarily are high maintenance. I don't know you well enough to make such a determination. You are probably a very nice and reasonable young woman.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
High Maintenance Woman
Posted: 7/23/2008 6:55:11 AM
The attraction to whiney, needy, b**chy women is moot. If they're hot, they can get away with bad behavior. It's not fair, but it's true. Why would a guy tolerate this bad behavior? Because she's hot. Again, not fair...just true.

In the short term (and this includes marriages which don't usually last) hotness trumps almost everything else. It's stupid, it sucks, it's not true for everyone, but it's the case more often than not.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
why not just say I don't think this is going anywhere?
Posted: 7/22/2008 7:20:22 PM
The last two breakups I've had were both ended with almost this exact conversation.

The first time the woman broke up with me, and got up the guts to come over to my house, and tell me this face to face. She was kind about it, honest, and sincere. We're still friendly.

Last fall when I broke up with someone (after only a few dates) I followed her example and did the same thing. It allowed the relationship to end without (much) drama.

Honesty and straightforward communication is always better than obfuscation and cowardice.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 51 (view)
 
Dominate Women/BDSM
Posted: 7/21/2008 11:54:24 AM

However you do have a relationship with them (a non-intercourse based one perhaps).
You do get involved intimately with them.

If you are failing to understand why this may be a problem then perhaps you need to broaden your sensitivity, empathy and comapsion - for many this will be a deal breaking issue.


I agree with Fire_hot_ouch on this. Even though you're not having a sexual relationship with your subs, it's hard for this 'nilla guy (me) to appreciate all the aspects of the relationship you DO have with them.

I'm not saying it'd be a deal breaker, I like the fact that you're honest, and willing to discuss the issue. But the idea that there's some aspect of your personal life that you wouldn't feel comfortable sharing with me would be a concern. (oh, and I'd be a reallllly poor sub, lol)
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 36 (view)
 
Is it possible to love more than one woman?
Posted: 7/21/2008 11:31:41 AM

My ex was very capable of loving more than one...It was I that was unable to handle it...I thought that his love for this other woman (who lived SOOO far away) would take away from our relationship...it was difficult for me to comprehend...but honestly, I am starting to believe that it can be done....it just takes a HUGE amount of communication and understanding....and not a stich of jeolous blood....


No reason for you to feel bad about not being able to 'handle it'. I know I couldn't either. I have friends who are into the 'lifestyle' and they're happy, intelligent well adjusted people. It's not my thing, but they're not hurting anyone, and I'm glad they've found someone (someones?) in eachother with whom they're fulfilled.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Is it possible to love more than one woman?
Posted: 7/19/2008 3:25:29 PM
YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary

It's a common internet meme.

I would think it would have to involve polyamoury or some other situation where all parties are aware of one anothers' existence and the facts of the relationship. Dishonesty would seem to destroy the trust necessary for a true loving relationship.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
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Is it possible to love more than one woman?
Posted: 7/19/2008 3:14:40 PM
I suppose it could be possible, but only in some kind of polyamorous relationship. The very act of hiding that level of emotional connection would negate your ability to have a similar connection with someone else.

Just my opinion of course, YMMV.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 5 (view)
 
I suck at dating and need help
Posted: 7/19/2008 2:24:01 PM
I suck at making connections on here too, dude.

Nexthyme is both wise and correct. Practice. Conversation is a skill you can improve.

Good luck!
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 6 (view)
 
Ear Hair ??? Dudes seriously?
Posted: 7/19/2008 1:08:53 PM

Hey guys I have a problem, how can I tell a guy that his ear hair is grossing me out? He's a good looking guy otherwise, I just think he's not aware, or doesn't care....but it's all I can think about and I keep staring at it! Help!!!!!! I'm too embrassed to confront him about it and I may just have to dump him, which would be a shame....


Dudes are often oblivious to the ear hair issue. Be polite and diplomatic, but yeah, let him know. If it were me, I'd be grateful. That is as long as you didn't get angry or accusatory. Adopt the same tone with him that you have here, and you'll be fine, but yeah, tell him. I'm sure he'd be willing to trim it up.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 86 (view)
 
Why does a man want a woman to hold his penis while he urinates?
Posted: 7/18/2008 10:26:40 AM
Wait, what now?

So you're a troll? Is that what you're saying?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 22 (view)
 
Can anyone help me?
Posted: 7/18/2008 8:22:44 AM

My god you're so young! I thought this was some sort of "old people " drama! lol

It generally takes two to play such drama! Totally ignore him! Even posting
here is feedback for him!

If things don't get better, talk to the police!

But be ABSOLUTELY certain, that part of you doesn't like the attention!


I want to second this advice.

You have know in your heart that his opinions and contributions are meaningless. As soon as you see that an e-mail message is from him, just delete it without reading any further. Don't respond to it, don't put any value to it. His dramatic little games are not worth your participation. Let it go, and you'll be OK.

Good luck!
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 26 (view)
 
What's it Worth?
Posted: 7/18/2008 8:16:51 AM

Then tell me what Confidence is. Tell me what it looks like. Because whenever you ask women what they want, and they say Confidence, it doesn't help the situation. They could say Cheeseburger, and still get the same non-message across.


Wow, I never understood confidence to be such a nebulous concept. Confidence is the belief that you have worth and value to the world. It's presentations are somewhat intangible but are manifested in body language, modes of speech, and dress. It's difficult (but not impossible) to fake, though.

It sounds to me as though you may have some self-esteem issues. If you're still close to your parents (which at the age of 22 is hopefully the case) maybe you could discuss this with them. Perhaps a clergy member if you're religious, or just your friends. Friends should cause you to be more confident in yourself, and true friends will help you to achieve that.

Good luck!
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 23 (view)
 
What's it Worth?
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:17:08 AM

Then why say "Some guys got it, others don't?" What's the reasoning behind such statements? There is something there that I obviously lack. So yes, I probably am bitter. But it's either keep shooting myself in the foot to get what I want, or say screw all of that garbage and do what I want, and make myself happy. It's not worth the trouble...


You're hurting a bit, that seems obvious to me.

What is this mythical 'it' that some guys have and others don't? There really isn't one.

It's about confidence. I think you may have had women on such a pedestal previously that you didn't feel worthy of them, or like you'd have to run some kind of game to get their interests.

This is not the case. You're worth every bit as much as the next guy, possibly more. But you have to know this and believe it yourself before it will have any effect.

I'm not just talking about going out to the bar and picking up some hottie. In order to have a stable and healthy relationship you have to see yourself as a full partner in that relationship. You have to know that you're worthy of being there. I hope you can work this stuff out and find some happiness. It's out there dude, get some of it.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
What's it Worth?
Posted: 7/18/2008 7:07:11 AM

Am I the only one who sees the vast amount of contradiction in this statement? Or am I to understand in order to get a woman I must walk a fine line of not too much to the left, or not much to the right? If thats the case, I would rather walk on my own, without being forced on this tight rope.


I'm afraid you'll be walking on your own for awhile. You're focusing far too much on who and what you might need to be to satisfy a woman's desires.

None of this is as complex or as difficult as you're making it out to be, and I think you'd find with some introspection that there's nothing about you that contradicts the average woman's needs or desires.

Relax, this is supposed to be fun, remember?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
What's up with this...
Posted: 7/18/2008 6:55:54 AM

men are weird! they think they know how women's mines work.


Mostly mines work by chipping away at the stone, and hauling the diamonds up to the surface.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 4 (view)
 
Emotionally unavailable, does it bother you?
Posted: 7/17/2008 2:55:20 PM
Is it really such a task to keep your emotions and their attached drama in check? If so, then my guess is sooner or later that dam is going to burst, and the resulting flood is even worse than dealing with the clingy, dramatic type of woman.

I can't (and won't) speak for all men, but in my case I prefer that any discussions we have regarding your feelings have some concrete basis in fact. I don't want to be held accountable for things you dreamt I did, or omissions that I couldn't be reasonably expected to be aware of.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 54 (view)
 
Why does a man want a woman to hold his penis while he urinates?
Posted: 7/17/2008 2:51:36 PM

BUT!!! None of you answered the question...

Is this symbolic?


If none of us have done this (real nice to imply that some of us are liars), then how can we say what another person's motivations would be?

Are you making this up and just asking an off the wall question to get attention?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Profile Names/Headings ... Name the Top Cliches
Posted: 7/17/2008 1:16:21 PM
Sassy. I see it ALL the time, I'm not sure what it means, but I know THEY don't know what it means. Based on the evidence Sassy = heavy.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 74 (view)
 
What would you guys recommend as traits of 'a good guy'
Posted: 7/17/2008 12:51:59 PM
Honest
Loyal
Chivalrous
Brave
Circumspect
Capable
Decisive
Inspirational
Generous
Flexible


Hey, I just described me! How cool is that?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 28 (view)
 
You are out of her league lookswise. What else would keep you around?
Posted: 7/17/2008 12:03:23 PM

So if you are somewhat attracted to a girl but you think she is not in your league in terms her looks, are there any other factors that you consider when weighing the pros and cons of a relationship?

Just wondering.


If your self-esteem is so damaged that you would consider a woman 'out of your league' then there wouldn't be a relationship anyway. The guy with low self-esteem isn't going to approach a woman whom he (mistakenly) believes is out of his league.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 23 (view)
 
You are out of her league lookswise. What else would keep you around?
Posted: 7/17/2008 5:29:49 AM

So if you are somewhat attracted to a girl but you think she is not in your league in terms her looks, are there any other factors that you consider when weighing the pros and cons of a relationship?


Well, I'm a Cubs fan (National League) and if she looks like she's a White Sox fan (American League) then there's a chance it's not going to work out.

Leagues, class divisions, it's all in your head. Men don't focus on 'leagues'. Not the self-confident ones, anyway.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 72 (view)
 
Soldiers Coming Home
Posted: 7/16/2008 7:56:15 PM

I have a right to post on these forums as much as anyone else here. I have been a very active member on POF since 2005 in the state of Maryland...Missouri and I will be meeting my gal pal Kathy in New Mexico next month after b1tching about some bad and good dates we have had over the years. I even met my boyfriend through these forums....how about you??


I spent sixteen months escorting convoys, conducting patrols, and operating vehicle checkpoints in central Iraq. I've only been on POF since a few months after returning home. (Fall of 2007)

The interview you quoted doesn't seem to speak to or support your point, even the last two sentences you added don't back your original claim that it was so much harder at the outset of the invasion and those of us who've served recently 'had it easy'.

Your opinion on whether or not we're wimps (some of us are, most of us aren't) is without merit or value. You've never tied on a pair of boots and slipped into your body armor still soaked with sweat from the previous mission. You're of course entitled to your opinion. I just feel that you're wrong, and I think I'm much more entitled to mine.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Why lie about little things?
Posted: 7/16/2008 7:49:07 PM
Hmm, it's cheap to register a vehicle in Nevada. Just for giggles (nothing on TV tonight) I built out a F150, pimped it a little, but not too much and came up with a MSRP of $36,000.

The fees to register it were about $650.

Here in Nebraska it would be about $2500.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
What do they REALLY want?
Posted: 7/16/2008 7:40:38 PM

Probably. I'd hate to think a "friend" is that shallow but obviously I'm just not girlfriend material.


He's not shallow, he's normal. If I'm reading between the lines correctly then you two have been doing the sex thing for some time, and you're wanting a deeper commitment, and it's not forthcoming.

I would say either be happy with what you're getting, or cut off contact and start fishing elsewhere.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Why does a man want a woman to hold his penis while he urinates?
Posted: 7/16/2008 7:36:16 PM
It doesn't appeal to me. At all. Must be a something in the water in your town.
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Wealthy Man, Poor Woman
Posted: 7/16/2008 7:34:35 PM

I am 60 now, and just do not feel the motivation to go back to school. Am not totally dumb, do belong to Mensa, but I agree that is not the same as education. When I was a young woman, college was not quite as reachable for everyone as it is now. But, that is an excuse, I am sure. Busy raising a family, whatever. Never, ever considered myself a leech.


I have no idea where the leech thing came from. You're obviously an intelligent and successful woman. I honestly do see the situation as his loss (and feel a bit sad for him).

By the time someone has reached the age of 45 or so, if they're reasonably intelligent they've acquired as much seasoning and/or wisdom from life as anyone is likely to get through school. Were his friends just entertained by and interested in different things than you?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Why lie about little things?
Posted: 7/16/2008 2:06:48 PM
We're telling you it's possible he's NOT telling fibs.

But if you're not sure about his integrity why would you make another date with him?
 murf167
Joined: 9/7/2007
Msg: 20 (view)
 
Wealthy Man, Poor Woman
Posted: 7/16/2008 1:17:29 PM
What you're describing here aren't really issues of wealth, but of social class strata.

I'm sorry you called it off, there's every likelihood that you would have happily been accepted into his circle of friends. You may have some insecurities over the issue (may have, I certainly don't know you well enough to say anything for certain).
 
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