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Thread: How and when do you know when you're with the one you wanna settle down with?
nexthyme
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How and when do you know when you're with the one you wanna settle down with?
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11/20/2009 6:31:20 PM
I don't know about most guys, BUT I do know the fish I met here was sure, and didn't question if he wanted to be with me or not...
Your guy doesn't sound like he's ready to commit. Some guys these day realize they have plenty of time, because they don't have a ticking biological clock...
I am not in the least going to say that a couple months prior that I didn't wonder if I was doing the right thing, simply because some of our beliefs are different... We went through the wedding, and since have found his beliefs and mine aren't as far from each other as they had seemed...
We have been together for well over a year and a half, married since Sept... Marriage didn't change anything between us, it is really good...
That is JUST my personal experience, I will say I had a LOT of dating experience, and a previous marriage, where my intended seen that marriage was disposable.. Lasted nine years with me giving 110% all the time, and he felt good that the person who cared the least was in control...
You two both have to be on the same page, and some days neither of you are going to feel head over heels in love...
Perhaps take another break and see if life is better without each other... IDK
nexthyme
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Would you date/ be serious with?
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11/20/2009 6:20:23 PM
Gavreel, you are this guys friend, and you can help him understand that some people can't handle this kind of stuff, especially if they DON'T understand it...
Bi polars are NOT always fun to be around, AND they can be down right dangerous if they don't take their meds... I know my little sister decided it would be great for her 8 yr old twin girls, and her to go out in a blaze of glory in a car crash....
Now she blames everyone for HER not being able to see her daughters... Not that the family didn't try and encourage her to stay on her meds, but she felt she knew better about things...
nexthyme
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On professionals and commitment (interesting one)
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11/20/2009 6:13:15 PM
Tom, I read a story, as well spoke to a single guy, who wore a wedding ring, because their company sees them as more stable, and likely to stay on the job verses someone that doesn't have something tying them down...
There is a benefit to them financially as well as for their job stability... I thought it was ODD, that a single guy would work the system by wearing a wedding band, BUT it would be interesting to know how many really are married...
Women on the flip side are less desirable as singles, but then again women have been hitting the corporate ceiling for so long a lot of them have forgotten what exactly they keep banging their heads for...
Hopefully a majority of these people are as happy as you are in their marriage...
nexthyme
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Trigeminal Neuralgia
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11/20/2009 6:05:43 PM
Dilantin IS used for a whole bunch of stuff, and I would suggest you look up the side affects, because I had taken Dilantin for severe nerve damage in my neck for pain, and remember having a dry cough..
The worst part about Dilantin is that if you sudden stop taking it, with in a day or so you can have a pseudo seizure... Like training the brain to believe it is epileptic so off of it then brain goes of the rails... Don't freak, but just saying some of the side affects can be a bummer.
Enjoy your week, and try not to worry...
nexthyme
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Does class matter in online dating?
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11/20/2009 5:53:32 PM
Im just wondering whether the online world can possibly eliminate pre-judgements of class? If it could I think this could be a wonderful advantage of online dating as you get to know people for who they really are.
I personally chatted, even met some very upper end men... Meaning they came from a silver spoon, as well European men, that thought American women were exotic... These were guys that came from well to do families, or had big money of their own...
We all put out pants on one leg at a time, HOWEVER the silver spoon babies families were NOT meant to bring home a "peasant"... My life was that of an average lady, and trying to be someone to impress these silver spooners, just was not MY cup of tea... I admit they were interesting to get to know as people, had great tales to tell
At the end of the day, my take was gals who were looking for someone to provide them some sort of monetary glorious life style were impressed, me.... Nay, I like my simple life, I don't worry about impressing anyone, and I do still rub elbows with above middle waged classed people...
I know they are saying money doesn't make class, however it is funny to see someone flashing money draw in people who think that person HAS money....
So yes, some people can chat up the "upper class", if they are living an average class life, but unless you are a model, or parrot with tits it is fun for only so long... That is MY opinion
nexthyme
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I am breaking up with BF Today! Had ENOUGH
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11/20/2009 5:42:50 PM
Caramel, there are a LOT of people that complain people are too picky, yet when it comes to a person settling for something less than what they want, people can get nasty as well... Go figure...
Take some healing time, and then look at what you really want in life, and from a partner. Look for that 100% if not a little more, then be willing to knock things down to about 85% or 90%, I haven't seen many people get 100% of what they are looking for so make sure the things you are looking for to make sure you hold strong on the things you can' t live without...
This isn't a novel idea, however it seems to me you were TRYING to settle for so little, that you go crumbs, whether he has other women, or is married to his job... It didn't work for you, made you crazy, and at the same time you doubted yourself for your choice...
If you know exactly what you want, and what you are willing to let go, then it makes dating a lot easier, just don't settle so much that you are going nuts with frustration...
I don't see a problem if you two were a couple to expect to hear from each other daily, really a text, IM, e mail, ohhh yeah phone call, or even see the person, not unrealistic... For you and a lot of people, however it wasn't for him, for what ever reason, WHICH made your relationship seem more like a NON relationship...
Keep looking, there are good guys out there, remember I said GOOD GUYS, not "nice guys" that seems a rather controversial term...
nexthyme
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Was she the one?
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11/20/2009 5:28:39 PM
Renegade that is great advice, sometimes it is good that someone knows about a group that others haven't heard about... I hope the OP heeds your advice....
AND NO, people don't like hearing how long the healing period takes... Funny people spend so much time wanting to be apart of or like people, yet struggle to be their own person, then it starts again wanting to be part of people again...
nexthyme
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Was she the one?
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11/20/2009 9:43:27 AM
Yellow Bird, you separated from your wife of 20 yrs, and then take time to heal, so now you are wondering if you missed THE ONE???
Chance are totally unlikely...
If you really think about things, what is it that your really miss, her companionship, the good times, having to actually focus on your own issues without a distraction of the honey moon phase???
Leave her alone, and fix the YOU that left your 20 yr marriage, you are weighed down with so much baggage that you aren't bringing to the table a healthy mind frame...
Chances are you can't stop thinking about her, because you didn't get totally past the infatuation stage. Let her heal, since you injured her as well by NOT being ready for a relationship, that is a kindness that you should be willing to give...
Perhaps consider a LITTLE counseling on how to develop better relationship skills, honestly it makes a WORLD of difference...
Good luck
nexthyme
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Does class matter in online dating?
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11/20/2009 9:34:14 AM
Ohhh OP, there are a growing number of sites such as suger daddy/sugar babies, just to gloss a name of ONE of many... These sites are designed to hook hot chicks up with rich older men that kind of contract an arrangement were the man pays for the hot chicks wants, and ummm NEEDS, while he has a hot chick at his beck and call...
People of a "higher class" can weed out people that are in their "status group", just as they do in real life if they want...
nexthyme
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Jesus the anti-christ
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11/20/2009 9:14:30 AM
(Another) "niceguyslasts", not a fitting ID...
You argue biblical words, but your quotes of different scripture, but then state this...
If you'll reread the OP I believe I stipulated the biblical jesus. One could ask how do you know jesus existed at all, as there is only one descent source outside of the bible that even indicates jesus actually lived, and it says nothing as to his life, actions or character. As such, if one assumes jesus lived the only place to tease out anything about him is the slanted gospels. And the gospels record nothing as to jesus being annointed, or fullfilling any of the other messianic requirments. If the gospel writers who believed jesus was the messiah couldn't be bothered to include information necessary to conclude jesus was the messiah why would assume there was any?
Dude, you either believe what is in the bible, OR you don't... You seem to want it both ways when it suits you... One moment you are quoting scripture, the next minute you are saying this is a "slanted version", we know that Jesus was Baptized, so he very well could have been anointed then.
As well there are MANY missing, or "didn't make the cut" writings, thus the bible, is really an incomplete book, that had things put in or taken out...
Christians and other religions played leading roles in these conflicts yes, but the point you've missed is that if jesus was the messiah these events never would have occured, as the messiah was to bring an end to violent conficts such as these. Have you ever read the messianic prophicies?
Yes, I have read them... However I also read where Archangel Lucifer told God he'd bring ALL souls back, which went against "free will"... Jesus gave his life say as to save man kind..
Is it true??? Depends on what person believes...
Knowing how to be a good person, a good steward to this earth, and to pass good on through your own kids is valuable... Something the world could stand more of...
True, but this is relevant to the OP how?
It is relevant to those who think they are buying a ticket to heaven... For others, it gives them purpose, and a reason to treat others with kindness, and care that is lacking in many others... WHICH is the whole message of the passage of "Love one another, and I have loved you"...
Personally I don't need to pull up scripture to define my life, nor do I need to wonder if Jesus was a hoax, myth, or real... I define my life by being my own person, and treating others with kindness, and care, not because I am buying a place in heaven, but rather I am not interested in hurting others just because I can... Little legacy I want to leave behind...
There were a a few things that Jesus was to accomplish, that is teaching of forgiveness, and to look towards God as the source of becoming one... Jesus was a teacher and a healer...
Your the one that likes to quote scripture, oh what you have only quoted old testament passages. Here's an idea read the NEW testament ... I don't quote scripture, I just know what is written, and key points that are considered important passages by many...
Personally I am a spiritual person, not a bible thumper, nor someone that has any proof of anything, thus I look at the bible as a mismatch of stories that fit to control people, just as governments do...
I don't need a book to tell me how to live, or if Jesus is a lie or the truth... What I do know is how I CHOOSE to live my life, and don't worry about if I do right I win a spot in heaven, but rather it is the right thing to do...
I'm curious what makes your post relevant in a science and philosophy forum, when it is clearly a religious ideal???
You make an opinionated statement of Christ being the "antichrist"... In scripture of Revelation, there will be 7 years of deception on earth that the antichrist will get to reign... Then all hell breaks loose, those who are sinners get the burn, those who aren't get a ticket to heaven (loose translation) Once again why should I quote which scripture, when you have that area covered, that is if you KNOW the bible...
nexthyme
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Is This a Good Reason For a Husband to Leave?
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11/20/2009 8:48:47 AM
[quite]How is it cold hearted to expect people to honor their wedding vows? How is it cold hearted to feel that people who break their wedding vows deserve to lose their marriage? [/quite]
The best parents I have ever met, are people who have NEVER had kids, thus they THINK that a kid at 18 should be able to tackle the world, and a parent turns their back on them without a second thought...
I have a 25 yr old daughter with her bachelors and a separate AA, out on her own since 19, with a 4 month stint on my couch... I also have a 22 yr old that was out on her own at 17, with a 5 mo stint on my couch...
My former step son is a bit of a different story, but through my help (we are talking son from my former marriage), he IS getting back together with his wife, and pulling his head out of his butt...
Please don't date anyone with kids, because your thoughts of what vows mean, and what being a parent means is two different things... Once again not having kids makes it impossible for you to consider that your own flesh and blood may need a helping hand from time to time, and if they can't turn to their parents, who are they supposed to turn to...
Hey I think the hubby did right he could have been mean and kicked her and the kid out.
He did kick her out, he took all of THEIR money and left her with a place she couldn't afford, nice guy.... What kindness did he have in doing that???
nexthyme
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I am breaking up with BF Today! Had ENOUGH
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11/20/2009 8:31:55 AM
For those in BAD relationships - say if you knew that you would find another partner quickly, wouldn't most of you leave your partner much sooner, rather than later? My point is that I still believe that, for the most part, people stay in bad relationships because they don't want to be alone, and they have a huge fear that they may not find someone else for a very long time, if ever. It's much more difficult (though not impossible) to find a 'suitable' partner once people reach middle age and beyond (compared to the younger years)
the beauty about message 69, is that they may be written in some sort of order, but in the real life of a chaotic mis match, they fluctuate.
If a person is set to a mental state of drama and chaos, no matter the age that is what they would go out and find the very next day if possible... As you state it is much more harder to find a suitable partner in middle age, by that point there's a LOT of damage out there.
My parents are a perfect example of two people that stayed together, (they are still alive) but should have parted ways LONG before this point. My mother has asked me what to do, and 70 and 74, I can't imagine suggesting she get a divorce... She has no skills, except to either put up with, or inflict misery...
The key is breaking the cycle, which is harder than most people think, especially when the only example a person has is the chaotic insanity....
nexthyme
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Jesus the anti-christ
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11/19/2009 4:42:29 PM
So, nobody mentioned that the Bible, was written by man kind, and translated repeatedly so many times, that there is a LARGE proportion of stuff that really doesn't make a lot of sense...
In fact a good number of the old testiment stories can be found written between two and four thousand years earlier in Egyptian text...
There were a a few things that Jesus was to accomplish, that is teaching of forgiveness, and to look towards God as the source of becoming one... Jesus was a teacher and a healer...
Man kind was given freedom of choice, which means no matter WHAT Jesus said, man kind had free will... It seems you are blaming Jesus, for what the Germans did to the Jewish, and polish, and homosexuals, and mentally imbalanced, and anyone they deemed unfit for the superior race... (by the way I am 75% German, and still have relatives in Germany) I am well aware of shit that went on in both WWI and WWII...
As well how do you know that Jesus was NOT anointed?? Were you personally there to see his life in its entirety???
Then we get to the point of what if Jesus isn't who they say??? So what??? Going to be pissed that there has been an over 2000 yr old lie???
Being a good person doesn't always mean you understand some fabulous plan, but rather just doing good by other people, by Gia (planet earth) and the living creatures that can't defend themselves against man kinds abuse to the planet...
Knowing how to be a good person, a good steward to this earth, and to pass good on through your own kids is valuable... Something the world could stand more of...
If Christ was the antichrist then this world should have been destroyed 7 yrs after his reign, funny, man kind has did a number on trying to annihilate each other for really no good reason. However I can hardly see the point by trying to assign that to a man who's been dead for over 2000 yrs, do you????
nexthyme
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I am breaking up with BF Today! Had ENOUGH
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11/19/2009 4:28:17 PM
I just wish there was a special device that will go off in our ears when we are acting so needy and door-matty.
There is, some of us had ours disabled by an F-ed up chaotic growing up, so this stuff all seems normal, familiar, and we are at home with it...
It isn't until we decide that we have self worth, and value do we realize there is an alarm that says, "hey I am being a door mat, time to move along"... Key here is to realize what your self worth is...
nexthyme
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Is This a Good Reason For a Husband to Leave?
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11/19/2009 4:23:59 PM
Cuddler you might want to go back and RE- READ the op... Her son didn't move in until this spring, and it was okayed by the husband... The son was working at a 9 buck an hour job, and looking to be making more through training... If he moved in this spring he hasn't been there for a year...
Mommy also has a job, and was making money, so it isn't like poor 2nd husband was getting financially screwed over... I agree at 9 bucks, an hour he could get into a room mate situation, which mom could have helped him figure out how to do...
HOWEVER husband turned to booze, and chasing younglings, yet you call the mother as being mentally ill... What my parents did to me was mentally ill, and beyond... Trying to get your son back into the game is NOT...
You are picking and choosing vows to fit your own meaning, forsaking all others, means not screwing them.... However I guess through richer or poor didn't count for her husband... However he had NO problem being an a$$ and taking all the money out of the joint account... NICE GUY... NOT
I would tell YOU not to have kids, NOR to marry anyone that does, because kids didn't ask to come into the world, being a young adult doesn't mean they are ready to be out in the world these days...
Hell I have taken the time to help my former husbands 23 yr old son... Set ground rules, and he helps pay for food... My husband gets it, and understands that I believe in helping when someone has fallen and doesn't know how to get up... He's learning...
If it took that short of a time for husband to freak, then their were a LOT of issues, besides the son...
Nice to beat up on the OP, after all she shouldn't care for her own flesh and blood, because a grown man should be her world...
nexthyme
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Suggestions on how to make a girl I'm seeing who's sick feel better
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11/18/2009 9:13:45 AM
If you have her e mail send her a get well e mail, and let her know you'd love to bring her chicken soup and all the trimmings of a get well basket... At the very least she will be endeared to the fact that you care enough that she feel better...
nexthyme
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I am breaking up with BF Today! Had ENOUGH
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11/18/2009 9:11:50 AM
The neighbors may not raise an eye brow because they are used to seeing different women in and out of his place...
No matter the case, you have a guy that has a very tight and private way of being, and is punitive if you say something he doesn't like.... Not the way to let yourself be treated... I suppose it could be worse if he spent hours and hours raging on how you pissed up off... Either way, you are walking on egg shells, and that kind of relationship is NOT healthy for anyone...
nexthyme
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Suggestions on how to make a girl I'm seeing who's sick feel better
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11/18/2009 9:07:30 AM
If you know where to send things, drop by some chicken soap.... Don't come on, don't do anything but drop it off, oh and something cute like lovely cough drops, and even tea.
There is really good already made soups at most major grocery stores, so it wouldn't be like you had to do much in the cooking department...
It is nice to have a variety of things...
I have to admit when I was married to my first husband, he bought me the same card 4 times over a span of almost a year... LOL, It was endearing each time...
nexthyme
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What do I do?
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11/18/2009 8:47:57 AM
Sam, you know you have a depression problem, what are you doing to address this???
People go through severe depressions, however it isn't just knowing you have it, but what you chose to do about it, to make it better...
You have accepted your behavior as poor, and that it is alienating you from your group, downers do that. Don't panic with the thought of what if this one friend isn't there, rather how to get help and to be friends with the rest of the group again...
Good luck
nexthyme
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I am breaking up with BF Today! Had ENOUGH
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11/18/2009 8:42:25 AM
Carmel, sounds like you can't let go of something you never had...
It sounds, and this is strictly a presumptive guess, which I don't like making, but it sounds like he had his week day girl, and then you filled in on the weekend...
All of what you said sounds like one big red flag after another, not the kind of thing I would want to call a relationship....
Cut him lose with no drama, no back door opening, et al, because he doesn't sound like a guy you want to hang your hopes or future on... Silent treatment is just another form of control... Do you really want that???
nexthyme
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Is This a Good Reason For a Husband to Leave?
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11/18/2009 8:29:30 AM
It does not matter whether it is a good reason, or not. That is the way it is. In marriage, your first loyalty is to your husband...not a grown child. You were as unfaithful-in a way-as if you had slept around. You chose to give your love, and loyalty, to someone other than your husband. You messed up. Enjoy living with your son from now on...because you will be
Acuddler, seeing that you don't have kids, I can kind of understand you thought process, HOWEVER, it is NOT paramount to cheating... SHEESH... A person who has kids, especially ones who are new out of the nest, may take a couple of tries before they get the flight right...
In the mean time, it has to be agreed by ALL how long the arrangement will be, and how progress is to be made...
Turning her back on her own flesh and blood would be giving loyalty to and love ONLY to a needy spouse, and not one that is understanding he married a woman with kids...
I find your post mean hearted and out of line...
When my oldest was still in school and 19, I was single at the time, and she didn't feel like doing chores even though she lived at home... I told she had two choices, to do them, or move out... She cried, said she'd have to quit school, which I told her was her choice, then said fine I am moving out... And she did...
She was making minimum wages, but had roommates, then got together with a bf for 3 yrs...
She's had a 6 mo stint of coming back to regroup, after college, and starting more classes to better her job odds... She is now 25 yrs old...
As I said I imagine you would be MORE receptive IF you had kids and could understand they were here first, and you don't dump them for a man, grown or not, you do your best to help them up and out...
The young man was working, and learning a trade... Her husband has his own reasons, the kid was just one of many sources of frustration... Maybe he didn't have kids like yourself, thus he believed he should be #1 in all things as well....
nexthyme
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Keeping the profile open after you've become serious
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11/18/2009 8:16:30 AM
After reading all the posts, I want you to understand there are a LOT of people who are here for the forums ONLY, and or friends... My spouse can freely look at what I am doing, and in fact when he has "wind down time" from work, he plays on his computer, and I do the forums on the lap top right by him...
It is to bad that this site doesn't provide for a third choice of either, because as I noted before I have made some really wonderful female contacts... I also chat from time to time with men I got to know before I met my husband, but once again nothing I wouldn't mind him seeing...
Hang on to your sanity and ask him...
nexthyme
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Keeping the profile open after you've become serious
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11/17/2009 11:21:51 PM
Stacy, this is the time to talk to your guy, instead of asking others what he's thinking... We really don't know...
Perhaps he is a forum freak... I met my guy in July of 08, married in sept of 09, and have never chatted with any male beyond friendly I like what you said on such and such forum... Women generally write me, and it is very clear if you look at my profile I am so into my guy...
Talk to him, and find out if he is giving you lip service, or he really is serious, THIS MEANS LISTENING... Sometimes in an emotional situation you have to be willing to listen, and to see what he has to say WITHOUT blaming, accusing, et al... What I would suggest you learn is to use I feel, it seems like before you address the issue...
Make sure you don't say "I see you on line, and think you are trolling for other women", he will shut down faster than a clam...
My profile is also hidden, and never at any point when things got heavy did I unhide it..
Have a non threatening talk, this is very important...
nexthyme
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Why do men lose interest so easily?
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11/17/2009 11:14:35 PM
I agree with wackMC....
You have been here since the 11th and are already in a bind over men losing interest.
Stop giving your number out, and get theres... I did this, so that when I had the time, I could contact them... Then I'd call and make sure they weren't busy.
Texting is not communicating as in an opener... It is good for: Hun I am on my way home, need milk? Have you seen the paper today, if not go look at it.. et al...
It seems you may not be giving off interest vibes, or are over anxious either way it's a turn off...
nexthyme
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kinda confused i guess and girls seem to be the best for advice ;)
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11/17/2009 10:59:44 PM
Ok, so you really dig this girl and don't want to blow it... However your friends are saying slow down, and you are worried about what to do...
She's been cheated on, so she has a fragile sense of herself, however if you pull back, will she panic, if you keep going at a neck break speed will it burn out...
Sometimes sitting down and talking, using body language, meaning warm touches and telling her how you feel, that you are really liking where things are headed, BUT you don't want things to burn to fast...
Let her know you aren't withdrawing, but rather letting yourself catch up and you want to do this relationship right... You two are still getting to know each other, however YOU UNDERSTAND just how important it is for her to be able to trust you. That you will do everything you can to assure her that that is important to you to make sure she knows she can trust you.
When you acknowledge what she fears a lot, she will relax...
Let her know you and her have plenty of time to become intimate... That it isn't because you don't want to, but YOU WANT IT TO BE the right time, and something that is meaningful to both of you...
My relationship went pretty fast considering how some people think timing should be, however after over a yr we married, and life is just as sweet and lovely as before we married...
I am not saying you are looking for marriage, but my point is that you can go at a fast rate, and survive, BUT it isn't advisable unless you have learned crash guards...
Good luck
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He ran away...
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11/17/2009 10:38:58 PM
Hun at least you know, AND you made the point of standing up for yourself, which is to be treated better... People who engage in the gutless if I disappear it won't hurt (them) then it is all ok really tick me off...
Of course you feel disappointed, because it has been so long since you felt like connecting...
Worry not, sometimes things take a while, but when you meet the right person AGAIN, you will know all the frustration was worth it... Doesn't feel like it now, but standing on the other side of the rainbow, I know about being hurt, NOT like YOUR pain, but still being hurt, and hurt bad...
I still don't think you did anything wrong, and if a person asks, answering honestly seems like a natural response, it wasn't like the two of you were engaged in the act of making love...
It seems like he probably had more going on in his head then you knew about, and he just couldn't handle getting close on HIS end...
Good luck, you are going to find someone who makes you smile again...
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We broke up, we made promises, a year and half later, i feel absolutely horrid.
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11/17/2009 6:20:14 PM
Jen I understand the romance right through HS, Jr, et al... Come from a foster family with all the biological kids falling for their jr, and or hs sweet heart married, and happily ever after...
I was not one of them, was a foster kid, so that didn't happen for me...
The question you have to ask yourself IS.... Are you hanging on because it is something IN your family and friends around you, so you see yourself as failing if you don't make it with him???
Trust me I understand loving someone beyond all sanity too... He was someone for 22 yrs that treated me like a revolving door... sighhhhh, was so glad when I finally told him to NEVER contact me again, the fire was out, and he was just the way he was...
I also understand how trying to date is pretty much like jabbing your eyes out with dull scissors, your heart is just NOT into it...
Please don't feel you are stereotyped... I understand, have 3 adult kids, and a 13 yr old, they all have told me I don't get it... Sadly I do, I was there, had my own issues...
Focus on your schooling... yes he may come around... My one foster brother loved his HS sweetheart dearly... She went to school and broke up with him... He would NEVER let any family bad mouth her, and yr and a half later she came back to him... They have been married for 9 or 10 yrs now...
If and when you are ready you will know, in the mean time remember at the age the two of you were, these promises are well intended BUT life is changing to quickly and people change...
He may be flattered, but he may be remembering his promise when he realizes you aren't waiting for him to keep it... That MAY sound like game playing, but really it is called putting your education in front of romance, and if he realizes what he's lost then it is only a win win...
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Is This a Good Reason For a Husband to Leave?
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11/17/2009 6:01:45 PM
Bluedawn, you got a lot of different insight, at the end of the day sometimes anger is what gets a person through the tough times, and this IS a tough time...
Keep pushing your oldest to get his shit together, because life is a tough place out there... I had help from my foster parents till I graduated college at 24 yrs with to very very younglings... I paid rent, and water and electricity, plus bought my own food... They had a tiny apartment above their house, so it worked well for all of us...
My point is this, sometimes it takes more than the 18 yrs that people think a person is allowed to grow up and be responsible...
Your husband has some major issues that you aren't aware of, but as I said get the lawyer, and get you equal share... Obviously he didn't demonstrate much love when he took all the money from your account...
It is a true labor of love to have a spouse handle and live with teen or grown up kids... Apparently that isn't what he felt he signed up for...
As a loving parent you are trying to get your child out on his own, tough world for kids that age... Some manage to make it well, my now 22 yr old has a fab place (detective work to find out where she lives) and is in medical school back East, however she cut me and all the family out of her life to do this... That hurts like you can't imagine, but it was her choice...
Your husband apparently had his mind set on something different, and fighting does cause men to go deep into a cave...
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cooking meal at home on a first date.
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11/17/2009 12:59:38 AM
My vote is that it is a scary ass world out there, and he doesn't know these womens intentions any better than they know his...
If he meets someone that he really clicks with, he has PLENTY of time to impress them later on..
Most women I know, including myself would find this creepy, and a dangerous situation... Yes, these days women have to be so very careful... Ask him if he's heard of the "craigslist" killer...
There are a LOT of really horrible stories out there, a person has to use common sense, and be safe....
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Is it that they're clingy or I'm too independent?
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11/17/2009 12:55:24 AM
beautifuldisaster2 , what a wonderful ID...
Here's a novel idea, how about talking to your BF... You were a loving nurse maid, perhaps something his mamma never gave him, and he liked it so much... NOW he feels vulnerable, and his feelings have gotten deep enough to where he'd suffer horrible pain if you left...
If you TRULY love him, you would be willing to compromise... What is wrong with giving a 24 hr notice, really that isn't taking all the spontaneity out of life, AND it demonstrates that you care about his feelings, WITHOUT giving up your freedom...
The two of you need to set boundaries, meaning there are areas of each of your personality, and or way of being is something you have to have respected, and being independent you are in need of keeping some of that...
You don't have to lose that part of yourself, AND if you talk to him, and find out why he's gotten clingy (chances are he won't even have noticed) that you need him to get back to the self assured man he was before...
Let him know (if you really do love him very much) that he means all that to you, but you also have a side that you need to cultivate on your own. Assure him that it isn't to be looking for anyone else, or what ever his fear is...
What I have learned about bad boys is that they usually have a very large wall, when they finally surrender that wall, they feel helpless and so vulnerable that they cling to the very person they want to keep by their side... Some times so hard they squeeze the life out of the relationship...
being aware that YOU bring out this vulnerable side of these men, means you have to be aware of this, and willing to keep their heart in tact... Other wise like one said don't date seriously, because someone is gonna get hurt, and it probably isn't going to be you...
Seems to me if you are a bad boy chaser, you have an unconscious desire to tame the wild beast, then get a bit bored when they are wanting to be your shadow...
If he's really a great guy, be mindful of his vulnerable feelings, and TALK THINGS OUT...
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Any girls here that don't kiss on the first date?
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11/17/2009 12:41:06 AM
Pal, sounds like she's NOT sure whether she likes you more than a friend... As well if she is dating someone, which happens with both genders, she may be wanting to break away, BUT is still involved with someone...
It is hard to say, guess after two dates you may ask her if she is interested in getting to know you on a more personal level...
Ultimately you are asking strangers to read her mind, and it can be a plethora of things...
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A friend sugested I ask out her friend
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11/17/2009 12:37:41 AM
Please posters, if you can, try to help the OP out and not be silly.
Hun, not being silly, but rather saying that this poor guy is making assumptions that he shouldn't, as well he shouldn't play games...
He never has said he likes Katie, or if he is even interested in her...
As well he got hooked on the idea of his female friend being into him because she is overly flirty... If she was interested in him, she wouldn't be playing match maker with her friend Katie...
As I said, it doesn't matter if Katie initiated interest, or not... It depends if the OP is interested, and willing to make a move like ohhh I don't know, asking her out for coffee, or drinks, or what ever younglings do these days....
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A friend sugested I ask out her friend
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11/17/2009 12:24:19 AM
Girls typically find guys even more attractive when they first rebuff their advances/hints.
WOW, love it when a man knows the mind of all women...
Maybe they colluded, and Katie ask your friend if you would be interested in her... Does it matter???
If you like her, ask her out, it isn't like you have to decide then and their if she is your life partner, or anything like that...
Playing games like, rebuffing her, and keeping her waiting is really immature, and for most average folks doesn't work in the least... IF and ONLY if a guy has GQ looks, then women SOMETIMES will be thrilled to get another chance of interest...
Sounds to me like a control game, and women who are secure with themselves find these little games juvenile and tedious at best, at worst, they think these guys are shallow game players...
SO, your friend asked, and now it is up to you to decide you are interested or not...
Like the other gal stated, perhaps your friend is playing match maker, and Katie never expressed interest in you, however your friend lady X seems to think you two would be perfect....
EDIT, being an oldy here, I will tell you this, if I want to know what is ailing my car, I don't talk to the store clerk about it, I talk to a car mechanic... Some here, you are getting advice from men, who think like men... When you want to know how a woman thinks, ask a woman, because they have the inside scoop on how the female brain works... I personally always ask a man if I am having a man issue... Women have some interesting insight about men, but time and again a sincere man hits the issue on the head.... same with women... Just saying...
I will agree with one thing Bulldog says, and that is not to hang out so much with your female friend, IF you like "katie"....
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11/17/2009 12:17:11 AM
OMGosh, I got married to someone from here on 9-9-09... I have allowed my former adult step son move into the garage, until he gets on his feet... eeecckkkkk
Ok, hun, blood is thicker than marriage these days...
Is it a good reason? People leave for what ever reason and don't think twice, his is just as good as any... It must hurt like hell, and has really put you into a bind...
Your husband apparently was ok with one child being on the tap, but simply couldn't handle a second child, in particular someone that is grown...
I'm sorry this happened, but it sounds like you need a good lawyer, so at least all the money he took gets split, it is NEVER cool to clean out the joint account....
Sad he demonstrated his true intolerance a year after the two of you were married...
If you think there is MORE going on, then perhaps you are right, however at this point it doesn't do much good to speculate, you have to pick yourself up, and move forward so you aren't homeless...
Good luck sweety
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We broke up, we made promises, a year and half later, i feel absolutely horrid.
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11/17/2009 12:09:21 AM
Ohhhh Jen, the pit fall of young love... sighhhhh
The two of you are in that sweet little world of magic, and everything can be perfect if we wait until later, but here you are now in reality...
Those sweet words he and you whispered so long ago, and for your age group it seems forever, he meant... He meant it then that is...
HOWEVER, he had time to grow past all the emotions he had about you, and now he is smitten with of all people YOUR best friend... Sighhhhh
Sorry hun, this is how young love happens, and you will have to decide if you are going to hold on to an empty dream, or to realize that people at your age, (oh sh!t at my age too) make promises they mean at the moment, but then time changes things... Thus those promises become fleeting...
You have to let go, and realize you have a monster big world out there, and it is up to you to go out and explore it... Don't try tying yourself down to a promise that was meant well, but impossible to keep in the long run....
Allow yourself to mature some more, and you too will find someone just as interesting, and fall in love and get married and have babies.... Sorry about the dramatic finish, BUT my point is, it was a sweet love tale, but one that seems really ill fated in this day and age...
Good luck, it will get easier when you realize letting go is better than holding on to an empty promise...
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cheated
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11/16/2009 11:58:09 PM
And to the OP, There is a LOT of mis information out there about STD's. And some of the Professionals do not know the whole truth. And we've just heard from one who advocates ignoring the risks of that.
NOWHERE did I ever say.. don't have adult consensual sex. Nowhere did I say that a thourough waiting period, and blood test should follow a thorough questionaire of a prospective dating partner.
Thyme, All things in safety, and in moderation. But your post isn't.
argumentum ad personam aside, the original post is NOT about std's, but the op being pissed that she was not honest about sleeping with someone...
He never brought up an issue about being worried, concerned, or upset that she may have exposed him to a disease... Therefore stating I am advocating unsafe sex practices is a total straw man attack, which is ridiculous at best.
Once again she could have LONG been a carrier of a disease, as can the op, or even you if you haven't had a recent FULL PANEL STD test, which doesn't just include a blood test...
Personally Beach I am married, met the man here, and have not been on the market for over a year and a half... I took responsibility for my intimate life, and before I got with my SO had a full test, because I do take STD'S serious...
So now that you know about my intimacy practice prior to marriage, and my husband and I never took breaks during dating, nor get all bent at each to need some sort of break NOW, it is a nonissue..
OP, if you had been concerned about her catching something during a break, then it would seem reasonable that you both go in and get tested...
You have made statements accusing her of actually cheating, after first stating she and you were broken up when it happened. I don't defend her for NOT telling you, but I get the impression that she knows just how much you would freak, because she was doing her best to move forward.
After all if you have had an on again, off again relationship over the past 6 yrs, there is little doubt that you wear a halo and that at some point either of you have considered this relationship bad for the both of you...
If she asked you, and you stated you never did anything, perhaps she felt shamed, and didn't want to face your wrath. It would seem after this length of time the two of you have more of a sick addiction, instead of a healthy trusting relationship...
IF you are so worried about your sexual health demand a test before you sleep with her again...
Other wise face how you posted this post, which is that you are pissed that she was with someone when the two of you were broken up, and didn't have the courage to come clean for what ever reason...
Beach when it comes to relationships there is a matter of respect and privacy... that doesn't mean that he can't ASK the question, but rather ask the question for the reason you got on YOUR soap box, which was because of concern of STD... Up until this point, he hasn't stated that was his issue, he complains she lied and must have cheated... In fact the title is called "cheated", not cheated and put my privates at risk of falling off with crouch rot...
It seems interesting that you would get so bent over the STD aspect, kind of like projecting your own feelings or fears???
What ever the case, I don't advocate unsafe sex, celibacy is the ONLY safe sex there is. However there is a way to go about finding out things IF you truly love the other person, and it isn't ON some condition...
The op had a set condition and obviously his get back together GF feared being honest, it isn't hard to see why...
Should she have been honest, SURE, but there are two sides and then the real truth, so beating me up with your ad hominem really is pointless... This isn't about STD's, this is about a guy pissed his broken up with GF had intimate relations with someone else, and was to afraid to come clean about it.. OR what ever the truth from her side is...
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He ran away...
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11/16/2009 11:31:53 PM
He asked me how my last relationship ended so I told him.. should I have lied or been vague about it? I felt like he deserved better than that...
Of for the love sanity, did the batch of posters miss this???
He asked she answered. I am sure there must be some conduct rules on dating, and having your the last love of your life end this way, but really come on...
She is a young woman, and the guys asked about her last guy, where is HIS TACT in asking her in her bed what happened to her last love??? He got an honest answer, and then felt all freaky about it.
OP I still don't think you did anything wrong, you answered, and I am sure it was after taking a pause to think about how to answer the question, and how it would appear if you hedge the question at that time...
No matter what, there isn't an instruction book for every instance in life, and you most certain will be faced with more situations that you will have to sort out how best to handle it...
No hun I can't imagine you will get over a situation like that, and unless (no suggestion you did this at all) you told this guy what a perfect man you beloved was... That would freak anyone at, and perhaps make them hesitate to man up about things...
People are the way they are, and sometimes you get the chance to meet some one who has it all together, and then others that jump ship at the first sign of drama... What ever the guys issue was, it belongs to him...
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Dependability in & out of relationship
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11/16/2009 5:34:52 PM
OK, so you already crossed the line... Why bother posting???
You don't know anything about what she can or would do if or when things go south... People pulled strings to get you into a job, and you are pissing it away chasing after a romance...
Your potential career demise.
On a side note, NEVER think you know another person so well as to be able to predict what they can or will do in the future...
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cheated
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11/16/2009 3:47:40 AM
Beach, I would get your point as totally valid IF the OP was taking issue that he was potentially being exposed to some STD, however that isn't something he brought up, or stated as a concern...
At your age of 55, do you have all the women you meet fill out a questionnaire as to whom they slept with, how many times, if there was protection, did the they have sex in the dark or with lights on, et al???
I understand all the STD stuff, former medical professional that still keeps updated, as well someone that has dated
The op is biotching she cheated... First he said they were broken up when she did it, now he's changed the story to where she was seeing the other guy and him at the same time... Lets face it there is his story, her story, and the truth in the middle...
He can say anything he wants about not pole hopping, but then he adds he had plenty of opportunities.. What is that supposed to mean??? He's better, because while they are broken up, he kept his pants zipped??? really, what if the gal in the saga didn't come back, and she connected with the guy... One we wouldn't be hearing about this, but two then he wouldn't look so foolish biotching about her supposed "cheating" when they were broken up, all the while he was broken up...
Once again if two people ARE broken up, what each person does IS their business... He should have asked her to get tested, as he would just for the sake of safety... However his issue is he sees her as property, AND someone else played on what he sees as HIS personal play ground, even though at that time he didn't want to be with her...
Sometimes you can't have everything you want.
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Why some men never want marry?
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11/16/2009 3:34:25 AM
Splendere
Nextthyme, it is difficult to explain to those whom have not experienced it the joy that providing for a family or raising a child can bring. Additionally, these are rights of passage; why as you say not many single men will be considered for positions where they are charged with the responsibility to speak for or be responsible for a majority of persons.
I think the issue that is missing is the fact that some where along the line women became the enemy... Sad really, because I repeatedly see on this thread and others, the "what I am going to lose when things go wrong"... WOW, any potential relationship has LONG failed well before it has even began, and the worry of material things are so much more to them...
If these men were so happy they wouldn't be on a dating site looking for women. If these men were so content with all of their toys, and the money they made, they wouldn't be on a dating site...
It must be really confusing...
My husband and I's choice was not made because of a fear of marriage on paper, but a desire to be with each other, and have a committed relationship that said We are both making a commitment that is stronger than what a piece of paper says...
There is no fear of the risk that there isn't any piece of paper that says one of us loses if the other decides to leave, that is the leap of faith we both took... We don't look at each other and think, when things go wrong, then we have dodged the legal divorce bullet... We stood and committed just like and wedding on paper, and that was for us to commit in the eyes of a higher power WE believe in...
I can understand a man thinking like we do, if it goes beyond that fear of what SHE may take WHEN things go wrong... The thought of things never last goes away, and the desire to work to a life time with that person is strong...
Once again younger couples that want kids have more at stake, and legalities when it comes to kids are covered with that legal piece of paper, not something my husband and I have to face...
I do wonder why there is such a deep seated hate, and how easy it is to state marriage is meaningless.... It seems only meaningless when people see marriage as a temporary thing, which I do know about, that was my ex husbands attitude... He wasn't there for the actual marriage part, he was their for the benefits, and when he drained away all of those benefits, then he stayed just for the last bit of comfort he could get by me parenting all the kids...
I still say, if a man has a negative attitude about the whole thing, then by ALL MEANS don't get married, always be up front. Remember with that attitude there may be a time where the woman he can't resist will come along, and he will have to make a choice to fully change his attitude, OR move along...
I have met a number of men who have deep regret about a woman that was the best things he had, but because of his attitude he gave her up, only to regret it years later...
On a side note as a person that was a medical professional, I got somewhat close to my patients, depending on how much time I spent with them, and how often I had to X ray them... I met a life time bachelors that had regrets about not having a person to grow old with.
They wondered what it would have been to have had children, and if perhaps their life would feel so empty...
That is NOT a reason to get married, however it does let a person know how choices in a younger age can be something that back fires in older age...
The paper means nothing IF a couple does not value it, but it isn't the paper, it is the vows that the two make, and how serious they are about keeping them... Not a day goes by that i smile when I look at the picture of my beloved as he nearly tears up as I read the vow I wrote for him...
I am looking for a life time, and refuse to think what my husband and I committed to is just temporary....
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11/15/2009 8:09:04 PM
Two things, you don't date in the work pool, especially since it was NOT a job you got easily... Causing issues would sort of being like peeing on those peoples shoes...
#2, yes, she is an untimely person, and maybe means well, but her priorities aren't about her commitment but rather just barely cutting it... Why bother to say you will come in early, if you aren't going to do it...
My experience is that untimely people are that way with everyone...
Rule one though, STAY AWAY from dating co workers.
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He ran away...
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11/15/2009 8:05:03 PM
Oh hun so sorry to hear this... It is so very hard to know what is going on with the guy....
Let it be, I know how hard that it, but if he can gain some sense of being, he will contact you, if not he wasn't a loss...
I don't think you did anything wrong telling him about someone that meant so much... People don't always react the way you expect, so just know that it isn't you. You were trying to be open, and some people can get weird about things, we don't always understand the why...
Let yourself feel ok about deciding to move forward in life... Remember dating is tough, sometimes it seems like forever before you meet that one person who gets you, and loves you anyway...
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P.P.& Rapists
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11/15/2009 8:00:23 PM
String I could get and follow most of what you said until this...
it scares me that so many have absolutely no concern what so ever about innocent people going about their lives and being killed by predators,which by the way is what most lynchings were.
Nappykat has a total point and reason to feel how she does, because it wasn't a lynching killing criminals. There were God knows the number of people, who were hung because of their race... Not because they did anything wrong, not because they were criminals, but simply because they weren't white...
I can see her ambivalence understanding HER reality, and HER heritage, that isn't all far back in history...
The mentality is still alive and well, my husband is half black, and he gets BS all the time... I heard it first hand, and worse yet, I got several hate e mails, belittling me about the person I married just because of his heritage...
I like what cassago says, which is the government is riding the world of someone horrible that can't live in society...
The area I live is RIPE with serial killers, and child killer... Wesley Allen Dode did the world a favor after murdering 3 boys, by getting executed with in two years of being caught for his horrifying deeds...
While he sat in jail he drew pictures of
how he would torture and kill little children...
He also wrote about his repeated mental thrills of what he did... And what he did was absolutely beyond reproach against 3 children... The last being a 4 yr old, and the worst most horror that little boy went through for several days...
He did the world a favor, because he knew there was NO HOPE for him, and he was a horrible menace to society... In fact I can't even begin think about how unhuman this guy was...
Nappykat, if it help look his case up, I think you can see how he did the world a favor with his execution...
You want to know the sickest twisted part???
TWO WOMEN, tried everything they could to keep him from being executed... Not because they were sane sounding, but because they loved him, and he meant so much to their children...
Execution really is a hollow victory for the family, simply because they can't have one last moment with their loved one, no matter death penalty or not..... Only thing is that surviving victims don't have to worry that evil that hurt them will get out to do it again, or hunt them down...
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11/15/2009 7:42:03 PM
OK I can get your feelings of being ready to move on... I have met people who didn't have a terminally ill spouse, yet still get married 6 or so months after their spouse death... HOWEVER your kids aren't looking for a NEW dad, kids just don't work that way. That seems more of something you are wanting, and thinking they need...
Dad can be a total no show, and their kids will still long for them, I know had kids that their dad was not in their life by his choice...
Date, but it seems imperative to get some healing for YOUR children, and keep your dating and parenting "hats" separate until you really find someone that is in it for the long haul...
It is possible for bloke #1, your own unresolved issues over having a partner over whelmed him, in particular when he had his own grief to work with...
You may feel ready, BUT your kids still need time to adjust to a dad who is not a no show, but daddy that passed to be with "God", there is no chance for him to come back... Much different dynamic... JMHO
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11/15/2009 7:33:25 PM
" If a person is broken up with you, they have nobody to answer to then themselves."
I disagree.
There's a lot of STD's out there, and everyone should be up front and honest about who they have had sexual activity with, in this case, and in many others.
I have to wonder when people state such tripe what kind of personal boundaries they allow their partner...
As cute as it is to demand knowing the name, number, and et al of a persons sex life, really it is NOT your damned business... Knowing if a person has a disease is one thing, knowing the who, and or how many IS NOT, they are two different things...
Remember beach read the profile, he's trolling for someone while he supposed to be with this woman for 5 or 6 yrs... If he is such a trust worthy person why is HE on a dating site biotching his SO sleep with someone while they were broken up...
If he has a profile looking for someone has he told her that she can expect to be on the outs with him anytime soon???
This is a case of accusing a plate of being a black pot like he is... Unless she is out trolling for someone else too, he has absolutely nothing to biotch about except that he's a control freak, keeping HER on the back burner.
When you aren't dating someone, their life is personal, unless they actually have something to say...
STD's can lay dormant for a very long time, so does that mean she should be berated and accused of cheating, if she never knew??? That why they have testing and condoms...
If you have an off and on relationship, then use condoms knowing the other person has the RIGHT to be with whom ever... It is THEIR personal business... An STD doesn't mean you have to confess anything, except that your partner may need testing...
nexthyme
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time to delete your POF account
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11/15/2009 7:18:55 PM
My old lonely bus driver from HS who hits on all the teenage girls
OH GROSS....
I do remember as a young woman (21 yrs old) going clubbing, ha ha what ever they called it in the old days... I seen my ob/gyn... That creeped me out, my friends and I left, I think it was a bar he frequented...
nexthyme
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cheated
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11/15/2009 12:27:20 AM
If a person is broken up with you, they have nobody to answer to then themselves. You asking her was out of line and intrusive, as well you seem to think that she should have remained celibate. Why, was she supposed to know you two weren't really broken up, or that for sure you would get together????
If you two are broken up, that is broken up... Seems to be the issue of people thinking they are taking a break, but then call fowl when the other person seen it as broke up...
As others said, you either accept 100% it was in the past, and now is moving to the future...
She didn't tell you, because she knew you would freak out, and it was something personal, and she was working at moving on with her life. People do that when they are trying to move on from a broken relationship.
I think YOU should move on from each other, because there has to be a reason you are on again, off again...
Relationships have issues, problems, et al, it is the working through it as a couple that defines how solid of a relationship you have ...
nexthyme
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time to delete your POF account
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11/15/2009 12:17:23 AM
I wouldn't say I have an awkward experience, but there was my first love that found me on two different dating sites over a span of several years. We knew each other and he disappeared for 8 yrs then seen me on a dating site. We lost track again, and he found me on another site...
Ultimately things went weird, and I told him to never contact me in this life time again...
No teachers, preachers, (did see my ex's profile that had been hi jacked on one site I was on)
nobody that I can think of as weird...
Oh well a stalkerish guy seemed to locate me over the years on most of the different dating sites I have been on... I block him before he can say anything...
nexthyme
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bf has bad time management
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11/15/2009 12:10:05 AM
he cant understand why im not wearing my ring anymore, that is one of the main reasons why i refuse to wear it now. i told him it doesnt mean shit until theres changes yet he says this relationship isnt one sided, who the **** is always screaming at the top of my lungs about why arent u here at xyz time? he cant give me a real answer as to why he cant be on time. he told me one time if u worked long hours u would be tired too i said yea i would be tired but i wouldnt be a lil **** about it and not show up to somewhere i know i need to meet someone - thats the difference between u and me. i even threaten if he doesnt get his shit together that i wont be coming to his religious service at all and he better tell them the truth. im always angry yet his dumbass cant understands why.
Shug you are looking for???
If you want people to bs you, and say yes Celeste (by the way my oldest daughters name she's 25) you are right he's a total dillweed, and he is totally out of line et al... You came to the wrong place...
You have mentioned how you scream at the top of your lungs... As well you have a potty mouth (once again don't worry I did too, lol, ok it is a little better) these two things can cause a man to become passive aggressive...
One thing you want to ask, would you be motivated to get some place on time when you know your ass is going to be torn to pieces, by the one that says they love you???
Don't get me wrong, THIS is not saying he's in the right... BUT, I was married to someone who didn't have a clue on time management. For land sake I could send him a forth mile to get bandaids, and it would take him at least 2 or so hours to get back.. LIKE WHAT IN THE WORLD...
I would finally have had it, and then break into a string of verbal abuse, screaming yelling, and you know what, he never changed... In fact he did other things that really chapped my hide...
When I finally decide after 9 yrs of marriage, I had had enough shit, and was NOT going to live like the way we had lived, I stopped caring when he came home... If he didn't show up to something that had a scheduled time, I left, I carried out plans we had, or went home...
THIS got his attention, BUT by then I was done with the whole marriage soooooo him catching on didn't matter...
The thing is we have been divorced for 9 yrs, and he is STILL this way. His GF reams him from ear to ear... In fact his family STILL will tell him a scheduled event is 2 hours early then what it is...
The bottom YOU can't nor do you have a right to change him... This is him, and yes it infringes on your side of things, BUT you have a choice, learn how to deal with his lack of time management, OR walk away...
He's an adult, and people are who they are unless they want to change...
So you rant, rave, cuss and burst blood vessels in your head, has it done any good???
My suggestion, let him know that you NEED him to be timely, and if he can't be, and he doesn't show up, then you will carry on with out him... He can learn to manage to be timely if he wants, but you aren't going to keep waiting for him...
THEN follow through...
The reality is this, and I had to learn it myself... Yelling , screaming, cussing, does NOT GOOD on men, they shut down and don't hear much of what you said, and just feel you have beat them with leather whips permanently attached to your hands... After a while they tune you out completely...
You can't control another grown adult, and to do so is unfair, and destructive behavior to your relationship... Threatening not to do something that is important to him does NOTHING to make him want to change...
One other thing, men are intimidated of a screaming woman, because they don't know how to deal with that kind emotion. As well, he doesn't give you an answer, because he HONESTLY doesn't have one...
People used to tease my ex saying , "there is the real time, and Jimmy's time"; if he makes you that crazy, you aren't in a compatible relationship. That is a core value for you, but NOT for him....
Good luck
nexthyme
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A smoker's chance?
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11/14/2009 4:49:49 PM
What Zepher said....
Your word is your bond and integrity... If you lie just to be with some girl, then you aren't what she wants. She doesn't want a smoker, or someone who lie to get what HE wants, disregarding what she's looking for...
Dishonesty is dishonesty, perhaps this is a good time for you to stop smoking since it seems to be an issue for gals you'd like to get to know...
That doesn't mean don't write someone, just be honest about this aspect... Lying only creates an element of distrust from the start...
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