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 Author Thread: Guys 25ish and below, what do you prefer in breasts?
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Guys 25ish and below, what do you prefer in breasts?
Posted: 8/18/2009 6:53:30 PM
For the sake of sounding shallow, I find small breasts much more attractive than larger ones. Flat chested is perfectly fine in my books.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Attraction on here...pics first or profile?
Posted: 8/9/2009 6:41:44 PM
When PlentyofFish displays people, in the "My Matches" or "Who Viewed Me", they show them as thumbnails of their pics. There's no profile information. Given that most users don't click on every single thumbnail, it's reasonable to assume that people filter out matches on the basis of what's in those pictures.

It's fair to say that people are initially attracted to the thumbnail picture. If I like her pics but don't message her, it could be because:
1. I feel like I don't have a chance.
2. Something in her profile turned me off (has kids.)
3. Didn't have time.

 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Is intelligent design a scientific theory?
Posted: 7/20/2009 8:58:31 PM
I don't get why this is an issue. ID is just a cover to remove real science from science classes and replace it with ideological content dictated by religious extremists.

The more science classes get hijacked and neuteured of their legitimate content for purely political reasons, the more we hurt the ability of future generations to understand the world and contribute to technological progress.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Firesale!
Posted: 7/9/2009 10:28:18 PM
There is a *huge* difference between DDoSing a website and attacks against infrastructure. The former is extremely easy to pull off with access to the right tools.

It's important to keep in mind that this isn't done by NK (where people don't have Internet access - at all), but by suspected NK sympathizers. My guess is that its probably some Chinese group. To give you an idea about net access in NK: even the DPRK official news site is hosted in Japan. And it looks like a Geocities website.

Anyways, this is no big deal. Really. DDoS happen everyday, and are easy to recover from. The news media are just making a story out of it because of the novelty of cyber-anything and the fact that NK is still a hot topic.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 11 (view)
 
key scrambler It defeats keyloggers by encrypting your keystrokes
Posted: 7/2/2009 5:30:10 PM
You are correct.

However, most "keyloggers" don't operate this way. Rather, they capture the traffic you send to websites of interest (ie. bank.) This allows the criminals to collect relevant information quickly, rather than have to parse through reams of text.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 23 (view)
 
What operating system are you using?
Posted: 6/25/2009 6:16:45 PM
Windows 7 Ultimate.
Centos 5.
RHEL 4.
WinXP Pro.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 6 (view)
 
key scrambler It defeats keyloggers by encrypting your keystrokes
Posted: 6/21/2009 7:45:07 PM

he was using Norton Internet Security and it did not find anything !!!!!
Webroot AntiSpyware was the only software that found it.

Yes, but my point is that he is responsible for the malware being loaded on. If you need an anti-malware product to clean an infected machine, it's already too late.The focus should be on prevention, so that the computer never gets infected in the first place.


its a small program so how can it slow down a computer?

Read the second half of the sentence you quoted.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Minnesota woman must pay 80,000 per song to the RIAA!
Posted: 6/21/2009 5:53:09 PM

Can you name any?

and she lives in US where it definately IS an offence.


It's not illegal to download in Canada. The artists are compensated for the download through levees collected from recordable media.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 4 (view)
 
key scrambler It defeats keyloggers by encrypting your keystrokes
Posted: 6/21/2009 5:47:23 PM
A keylogger was probably not the only thing on that system.

This scramber just seems like a waste of resources that's more for feeding an illusion of security rather than actually enhancing system security. The solution is not to get compromised in the first place, something which should be virtually impossible with good surfing practices.

If the guy had a keylogger, it's because he allowed it to be on there. So I'd spend my time trying to teach him better surfing habits so that he avoids downloading malware like that in the future.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Hackers, good or bad?
Posted: 6/14/2009 5:08:44 PM

HOWEVER, you don't know of any "non-malicious incidents" because they aren't reported. so again, an assumption on your part. if you associate malware to hacking then of course you'll deem it all bad. that just isn't the case. no one gathers data on the work of "good" hackers. but that's the point of forums, yes? let the assumptions and opinions prevail.

The traditional sense of hacking does make the news, but on specialized news sites rather than the mainstream media. That's not just the case with hackers, but enthusiasts of any kind.

What we do appears all the time on the likes of sites such as the excellent "Hack a Day" (hackaday.com), or on geek news sites such as Slashdot, Digg and/or Reddit.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
UNIX/Linux Utilities / Apps
Posted: 6/13/2009 10:02:54 PM

PS: Anyone know what the heck "nibbles" is? LOL, everytime I look it up, i pull up, um...questionable content. Haha.

Half a byte.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
UNIX/Linux Utilities / Apps
Posted: 6/13/2009 10:01:43 PM

Wow, I suppose I learn something new each day. I think I was like in kindergarten when IRC was being used heavily. Somehow, it stopped being used as much. Every firewall I've EVER used blocked IRC traffic. One of my coworkers told me that it's because too much information either is transmitted via IRC or obtained via IRC. I'm not sure why, but I know there are security implications of using IRC. Anyone know? I guess I can look it up...

Enterprise firewalls may block it for a few reasons. For one, chatting is in most circumstances innapropriate use of company time. For another, some older botnets coordinate over regular IRC channels. Since chatting is an innapropriate use of company time anyways, blocking it off entirely could be seen as an enhancement to security.

No home firewall product will block it by default.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Python Programming
Posted: 6/12/2009 7:36:00 PM

How do you start your own forum subject?

The "New Thread" button is at the top of the page, when you're looking at the threads.

Glad you found a book N3T. I really like Python - it's a real breeze to quickly make programs in, and it's got a healthy dose of libraries to really simplify your life. It's just great for non-production programming.

That along side C are my two favourite programming languages. I enjoy C because its so portable, which comes in real handy when you're developing on embedded platforms. It's also much closer to the machine, which I like.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
UNIX/Linux Utilities / Apps
Posted: 6/12/2009 7:24:12 PM

OMG, people still use IRC?!!! I didn't know that. That's like the punchcard of chatting. How secure is that, anyways?

Yes people still use it. It's painless group instant chatting, and nothing has come to replace it over the years.

As for security, I'm not sure what you'd expect. Standard IMs are sent in cleartext, so its not like they would fare better. As for user authentication, schemes are provided (nickserv), but it's not like it was ever really needed.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 6 (view)
 
UNIX/Linux Utilities / Apps
Posted: 6/11/2009 8:03:35 PM
...of those not mentionned:

Command Line:
alpine (e-mail)
ircii (irc)
screen (multi-tasking!)

Downloading
ktorrent (has www server w/ authentication, lets you monitor torrents from wherever.)
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Anyone game on Unix/Linux?
Posted: 6/11/2009 7:56:29 PM
I played Left 4 Dead on Linux. I had to turn down the settings so far that Half-Life 1 actually looked better. That's the downside of no native ports.

All the commercial PC Games are unfortunately for Windows. Sure, some games are ported over (UT2k4), but they're far and few between. That said, Linux does have a solid library of games dedicated towards the casual gamer.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Xbox 360 potential maxed out while PS3 shows more potential still.
Posted: 6/9/2009 7:22:44 PM
People say that the potential of the PS3 hasn't maxed out yet because of the perceived difficulties in developing for the platform. The Cell with its multiple SPUs breaks away from the convention set forth by other CPUs.

That said, how different is that of a paradigm than that introduced by programmable shaders? Especially when you use video cards to process physics and non-graphic algorithms?

I think people are overstating the difficulty in programming for the PS3. If the programmers haven't figured it out now, three years after its introduction, they're unlikely to do any better in the few years remaining in this platform's lifespan.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 24 (view)
 
Why not trinary computers?
Posted: 6/4/2009 11:36:47 PM
Binary is used because it breaks down everything into its smallest distinguishing factor: yes/no. This is very convenient when you're dealing with hardware.

Implementing a system with three states instead of two in order to perform the same tasks would necessitate more complex circuitry. There would be no performance advantage. Already a processor is able to perform an addition in a single clock cycle, adding a third state would not improve this.

As for storage, this goes back to the binary being used because it breaks everything down into its smallest distinguishing factor. An optical disk for instance consists of groves that are detected by a laser beam. The dimensions of the groves are determined according to the wavelength of the laser, and its existence is detected through wavelength interference. It would be impossible to implement a third state in such circumstances. You have a third state with Flash memory - but the end result would require so many more transistors to implement that you'd have even less space to store data than were you to go the binary route.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 35 (view)
 
What is a math geek to do?
Posted: 5/31/2009 8:01:42 PM

Gaze into her eyes. And, in your best "Pepe Le Pew" cartoon French accent say:

"Ampere fourier carnot descartes poisson lagrange, format laplace de morgan."

Works every time.

 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 33 (view)
 
What is a math geek to do?
Posted: 5/31/2009 7:16:01 PM
I'm a geophysicist. Like math, it's also something people don't want to touch with a ten foot pole. Unless you're with coworkers, or someone familiar with the industry, it just serves as a repellent.

So in my case, I just don't talk about what I do, I just say "I work for an aerial survey company."
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
just gave up
Posted: 5/31/2009 6:56:01 PM
Until I stumbled on this thread, I thought I was one of the only ones.

I know what you guys mean. I've been rejected by every single person I've approached. It's not like I target 18-year old supermodels either - I'm more attracted to normal blokes who seem to have a good head on their shoulders.

I really don't get it. It's not like I do the single-line "hey" message, or include any perverted /offputting thoughts. At best, I'll see that the message was read and deleted. Sometimes, it'll be the "unread deleted." To add insult to injury, the person read my profile - so what does that tell me? It tells me that I'm the problem. Especially when it happens every time.

I'm really on the cusp of giving up. I'm 24, and I've never even had a girlfriend. It's funny too, because every time people try to say reassuring things like "you'll find someone" I just don't believe it. Mostly because its told by people who, by my age, were married and had children.

I'm the problem. After two years of being on here, this site made me realize that. I guess I should be grateful.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 1 (view)
 
Unapproachable?
Posted: 5/25/2009 8:58:54 PM
Tis my turn.

I don't know how I come off in my profile. I'm concerned about sounding like a pretentious douche. Anywho, what are your thoughts? Any parts you would remove/change? Any suggestions?
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Profile review
Posted: 5/25/2009 8:56:18 PM

FIVE DAYS A WEEK MY BODY IS A TEMPLE. THE OTHER TWO IT'S AN AMUSEMENT PARK!
I LOVE LIFE. I SMILE A LOT. I LAUGH A LOT. BUT I DON'T DATE A LOT SINCE I HAVEN'T FOUND THAT SPECIAL GIRL. I WORK HARD AND I PLAY HARD. COME JOIN ME.

Well, I would use proper capitalization. I would also remove the portion about why you're not dating alot.

You don't say much of yourself, other than in quips. What are your interests? What do you enjoy? Any preference in music? What do you do to relax? What's your idea of a nice outing? Etc.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 17 (view)
 
Best Firewalls: Software/Hardware
Posted: 5/24/2009 9:17:49 PM
Software-wise, Comodo on my Windows box, iptables on Linux (with scripts to prevent repeated SSH bruteforcing attacks from the same source.)

I don't see the point of getting a box in the middle for added protection. Perhaps if I was in a corporate environment and wanted more control (ie. prevent outbound spam from an infected machine, packet filtering, etc.), but not on my home network.

The ports accessible from the outside anyways are SSH and bittorrent thanks to the router.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Too much info?
Posted: 5/24/2009 8:59:01 PM
I'd agree with Edward. The issue isn't with you or your profile, its with those that message you. From what I gather, you're not the only one with this problem.

You can set your account to only receive messages from people within a certain age range.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Windows7 Rc, have you got yours?
Posted: 5/23/2009 10:43:44 PM
I like it. My only complaints have to do with the elaborate permissions structure, which can block the system's root account from deleting files (very frustrating.) It also blocks anti-virus products from removing infected files that use this fact to their advantage.

They've resolved the gazillion processes running in the background issue of Vista, though that may be because the functions they performed are now integrated into the kernel. I like the new features they added to the start menu/task bar. Haven't tested out the WinXP emulated mode yet.

Good hardware detection in my case - everything worked out of the box. If only it were that easy with Linux :p
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 3 (view)
 
Profile Review Advice
Posted: 5/23/2009 5:22:02 PM
You don't talk a whole lot about yourself. I mean you say where you're from and what you do, but the only line that hints as to your personality is this one:

I like going to bars, pubs, camping, movies, music, and just hanging out with friends.


From that I can derive a bit of what's important to you, but that's about it. I agree whole heartedly with LilyVee: expand on this. Talk about what's important to you, what you like, etc. That will give people a much better idea of who you are, and give them a chance to realize that you're a kick-ass person. :)
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 9 (view)
 
What am i doing wrong? Not getting responses.Can someone review my profile
Posted: 5/23/2009 5:14:45 PM
I find that talking on sites like this is very difficult. You have to find an excuse to talk with someone, whereas in real life you can just talk to them freely and openly.

I try to avoid small talk, and find something to spark a conversation they would be interested in. I'll read the profile, and see if there's anything in there that I can use to that end. I never say things like "you're hot" etc. I also try to come up with an original subject line.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 16 (view)
 
Undecided/open about wanting children - what do you guys mean?
Posted: 5/23/2009 5:06:02 PM
I want to have kids down the road.

I've chosen to put that I'm "undecided/open", because at the same time I don't want to give the impression that I'm here to mate. I'm concerend that saying "Yes" might in fact give that impression.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 8 (view)
 
Africa - Living Arrangments, Cuisine
Posted: 2/8/2009 11:35:28 PM
It was perhaps a little terse, but he and others have made a very valid point. Africa is not a country. It's a continent, and a large one at that. The kind of ethnic/political/economic environment you'll find in South Africa is very different than what you'll find in Sudan, which is very different from Rwanda, which is different than Zambia, which is very different from Tunisia. Assuming that they're all the same on the basis of what continent they're on is like saying that France and Moldova are the same because they're both on the same landmass. That's simply not the case. In reference to your question on cuisine: what one considers a native dish in France is not the same as what one considers a native dish in Russia.

So if you want to know how things currently are in Tunisia, I'd give you a very different answer than if you were to ask me about how things are in the Democratic Republic of Congo. But yes, there are houses, dirt roads, paved roads, suburbs, restaurants and office buildings on the African continent.

If you seriously plan on going, figure out what country, and talk to someone whose been. Also, make sure to go to a travel clinic. In Canada, they won't allow you back in the country if you haven't had your yellow fever shot before going. Good malaria pills are expensive (I pay $500 for a two month supply) but worth it. You *have* to take these pills if you go in a risk area - malaria is a life long disease, and a nasty one at that.

If you plan on going to more risky areas, learn good safety practices. Never use the same route to get back to your hotel. Photocopy your passport and keep a copy of it with you at all times. Make use of your hotel safe - don't trust the cleaning staff. Don't drink anything but bottled water and beer. Don't eat uncooked fruits/vegetables. Always carry cash that's not in your wallet (I keep some in my socks.) Carry some American money with you. If you want a taxi from your airport, go to the booth in the airport to order one - don't get one on the streets. For your hotel, get them to call one. Don't show your affluence.

As an American, you're a tad bit disadvantaged from your lack of exposure to the outside world. Working in the tourism industry for eight years, Americans were not seen with high regard. Many were very arrogant, and incredibly ignorant. I remember one being upset that people didn't speak "American" in a french-speaking nation. All this to say, be mindful of where you go.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Heading to Paris/London next month...any tips??
Posted: 2/8/2009 11:26:41 PM
Service in Parisian restaurants is different than in American ones. They say the waiters are snotty but I never found so. It's just slower, and the waiters tend to focus on a few customers at a time rather than everyone simultaneously. Take a chair by the street, look out, and enjoy the scene.

Most people you'll encounter in Paris are other tourists. :p Walk around a bit, and see if you can escape the tourist trap. You'll know you're on the right path when the amount of trinket shops start to decrease.

And watch out for the motorbikes on the sidewalk!
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 12 (view)
 
going to the other site
Posted: 12/25/2008 11:54:58 PM
Where there are people, there are idiots. Unfortunately, it's only the idiots who will go out of their way to show pictures of their manhood.

I got an unsolicited message here the other day from a man wanting sex. My profile says I'm looking for a woman. Seriously, wtf.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 11 (view)
 
Is blocking my number RUDE ???
Posted: 12/6/2008 9:53:14 PM

For the same reason that Jack The Ripper would get upset about not being lent a pair of scissors to cut a length of string. It's a strong statement of being considered untrustworthy.

I have to agree. There are ways of communicating with a person without prefacing it by indicating to them that they're not worthy of trust. Assuming that they're the lowest of the low, and treating them as such, is not a great way to kickstart a relationship.

If you don't trust them with your phone number, don't let them know it. Use other means to communicate, such as using an email address that you use only for this purpose.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 48 (view)
 
World's Most Beautiful Hikes
Posted: 11/19/2008 8:20:46 PM
Up Mont Jacques-Cartier in the Gaspésie National Park ("National" meaning "Provincial" in the context of Quebec.) It's Quebec's second highest peak. It's the indifferent caribou at the summit that make the trek worthwhile.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Child Torture - Can God Exist?
Posted: 11/19/2008 8:15:29 PM
God does not rule our actions. That is the beauty of our freedom. We have the freedom to do great things, as we have the freedom to do the unimaginable.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
DO WE WATCH TOO MUCH TV ?
Posted: 11/17/2008 11:32:00 PM
I spend less than twenty minutes on front of a television a day, but I spend hours on front of a computer. I play video games, socialize, etc.

It's all part of the fact that the computer is replacing more and more of the activities that used to take place in the "real" world - finances, mailing, entertainment, etc. As a society we're going to have to find a means to balance the greatness of these machines with the sedentary lifestyle it encourages.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 126 (view)
 
Where did you go on your last vacation?
Posted: 11/17/2008 11:29:27 PM
Paris, France. Three quarters of the people you'll encounter are tourists. The history is so incredibly rich; no matter what you visit you're bound to be awestruck. The metro system is wonderfully efficient. The food is decent on average.

Get out of the tourist areas and its a pleasure to walk around.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 2 (view)
 
Total darkness
Posted: 10/26/2008 4:34:15 PM
In a cave as well for me. It really is weird - it's like someone turned off your eyes. I thought I knew what pitch black was, but turns out I didn't!
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 30 (view)
 
Do you trust Wikipedia
Posted: 10/26/2008 4:29:41 PM
I've seen lots of incorrect content on Wikipedia. Take it for what it is: user contributed content. User, not expert.

There's no standards people before submitted content is approved for posting. That means that with the non-restricted content, anything goes. There is a mediation effect in place from the sheer number of submitters, but alot of crap gets through.

Wikipedia is an excellent resource, a great starting point. But it is not an authoritative source of knowledge by any means.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 27 (view)
 
Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general)
Posted: 10/23/2008 8:22:14 AM
Thank you for clarifying the importance of your work to me iSeal. I can understand your take on where you stand on Global Warming but you must admit that if it was really an issue, the government would have devoted more funds in developing alternative energy systems and not allow large established corporations to reap benefits from deceiving the public.

I wouldn't be so sure. Global warming is as much of an issue as we'll see it become in politics, consuming much of their media agenda. At least in Canada. The problem is that this is such a long term phenomena, and it's impossible to create policies that would have instant ramifications. Assuming they /would/ have an impact. This makes any grand moves difficult on a political level. People react to catastrophes, not to lingering problems.

Personally, I think this focus on global warming is hurting the environment. What if conclusive research comes out showing humans have had a negligible impact on the global temperature rise? The media is creating a bubble of ignorance the subject, which one day could burst. That's likely to happen because the media has never correctly presented the matter to begin with. If that bubble bursts, environmentalism as a whole will take a hit. It shouldn't, but it will. And that will be a true tragedy.

We're so careless with this limited resource that is the planet as it is.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 21 (view)
 
Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general)
Posted: 10/22/2008 9:32:47 PM

No derogatory statement there, just say that you would hold to the most popular view when dealing with a controversial issue. Geologist/geophysicist deal with the environment directly, I mean, like climate variations? Are you involve with the process of refining petroleum into the various fuel oils? Seems to me the best way to reduce combustion byproducts is to eliminate them totally, but that would not be economically feasible, no profit in that. Hey you would be out of a job too. How many alternative power sources do we have out there and how many more are being developed? Familiar with the "Magnetic Surge Engine"? Perfect power source for generating electricity with no fuel needed. Google it and then blab about how detrimental the internet is in educating the public.

I work in exploration. Oil companies hire us to find new oil reserves for them to extract. Though we are running out of it, there's still loads out there to be had.

Geologists deal with the mechanics of the Earth directly. Climatology is an integral part of that. It touches so much of what we study, from aeolian erosional processes to the monolithic impact of Ice Ages on the surface.

I'm not too worried about the threat of no dependence on oil. People need oil. They will for a long time to come. If they don't need it for cars, they'll need the petroleum for plastics. And the less they think there is of it, the greater its worth - which only helps.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 18 (view)
 
Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general)
Posted: 10/22/2008 8:07:36 PM
So what is your take on "Global Warming"? Or are you one of the Apologetics that states it's not a natural event but something that "Big Bad" mankind is responsible for?

No, I'm a geophysicist who understands the evidence. If you look at the last interglacial periods, there's always an increase in temperature. We're at the tip end of an interglacial, and temperatures are increasing. No conspiracy there, just how it is.

There is a greater increase now, however, than was measured in the last interglacials. A sharp glitch. That's where the question of anthropogenic influence comes in, and frankly, that's beyond the scope of my interest. But to maintain that the temperatures don't rise in an interglacial period makes about as much sense as saying that the Earth is seven thousand years old.

You categorizing me as an "apologetic" or some other derogatory term for purely presenting evidence is the problem here. This precisely the type of mentality that hurts research when it reaches political circles, and man kind's progress for greater knowledge.

PS. I work for the world's largest oil companies. You won't find any geologist/geophysicist here who contends that global warming isn't happening. They know the science as well as I do. This movement that opposes the acceptance of its existence has nothing to do with science, and everything to do with politics.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 15 (view)
 
Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general)
Posted: 10/22/2008 7:17:03 PM
That's for another "debate" thread.

And that's another phenomena, brought forth by the Internet, that hasn't helped science. Thanks to an increase in sources, people are getting inaccurate information. For instance, the poster above is basing his information on the short term global cooling phenomena of the seventies - ignoring the trend of the last few thousand years. And he is unable to distinguish between the cyclical Antarctic ice formation and the ancient formation on the landmass itself.

The Internet is a wonderful tool for expanding knowledge in the right hands, but likewise is a disseminator of much crap. It leaves people to distinguish for themselves what's correct or not, which perhaps isn't the best filter when its on a topic for which they know nothing of. Then again, that's debating on the Internet summed up.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 13 (view)
 
Public Ignorance on Global Warming (and science in general)
Posted: 10/22/2008 6:47:49 PM
A lack of education is the big problem I see with this.

The media is a big culprit. They are paid for by sponsors, and therefore value ratings. People being the unfortunate sot they are, prefer to hear sensationalist stories versus the more profound educational type. The end result is that the media does a very poor job of sorting through the products of scientific research, instead favouring very narrow presentations of their findings that are sure to interest viewers. "Coffee is bad for you." "Coffee is good for you." Many contradictions, but being more accurate would lose viewership.

The media gives people what they want. So, media ignorance is a byproduct of the ignorance of the people (though they do feed into one another.) To that extent, a lack of education is a big problem. It doesn't help that there is a definite anti-science sentiment that's very pervasive in the United-States over the last decade. This ignorant treating of "scientists" as a group with an agenda certainly has hurt matters as well. You can thank the far right for that. There's a mistrust of "science."

Were people to understand what science is, and the principle behind it, things would be cleared up tremendously. There are districts in the States where only 20% of students graduate high school. If education is such a low priority by the people, so little valued, then how can you expect an educated society? Ignorance will only continue to grow.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 134 (view)
 
the earth is growing
Posted: 10/22/2008 6:20:44 PM
Shouldn't all rocks on the planet be the same age as the planet it's self? I mean... in support of the earth not gaining mass?

No. Rocks are not static. They form (genesis) through different means. Sedimentary rocks are formed from the accumulation of broken up rocks, shells, and other earthly materials on the surface, which then get cemented together with heat and pressure (product of being brought down to depths.) How they do so is very well understood. Igneous rocks form from magma cooling. Metamorphic rocks are the conversion of the former two into new rocks from heat/pressure.

When these rocks are brought to the surface, they erode from the wind/water/etc. It all happens over very long cycle periods. Thus the rocks that exist on Earth are of different ages.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 316 (view)
 
Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 10/14/2008 8:28:16 PM

I haven't seen any real evidence of a moon landing.


...except for the rocks that were brought back. Rocks are a wonderful thing - each one is like looking at a history book. They keep a record of their life, and its really impossible to fake.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 7 (view)
 
Bisexual Option?
Posted: 10/14/2008 7:37:57 PM
I have to agree. Have an option for bisexuality, such that when a man is declared as such, searches will return results for gay men, bisexuals, and women. When gay men do a search, they'd get other gays and bisexuals. Same deal with female bisexuals. It doesn't seem like something that would be all that hard to implement. Then gay people could set in their mail settings only to be mailed by males or females, if they don't want bisexuals. It's win win all around.

I'm glad that PoF allows for gays to look for gays. Certain other sites don't offer that at all, on purpose, to appease a certain mindset.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 89 (view)
 
the earth is growing
Posted: 10/14/2008 6:33:47 AM
The Earth is an oblate spheroid to be precise, not a perfect sphere. The reason has to do with our rotation.

As for gravity, that's what I work in. I measure gravity on the Earth's surface for the oil industry. Earth's gravity (and thus mass from the surface down) has been precisely measured on the surface for nearly a century now, at levels more accurate than GRACE.

Guess what - that mass ain't increasing. Ground-based grav measurements are sensitive enough that they can pick up very small increases.

Every time you speak, I easily refute you. Why? Because I'm a geophysicist relying on research, and you're someone with no knowledge of geology relying on the poorly substantiated words of a cook. If you want to be able to produce a debate where you won't be shot down in milliseconds, learn some basic geology first. Mind you, if you knew basic geology, you wouldn't even have this discussion.

Like I said - read a good book on geology. If you want to learn some history, read on history. But if you want to learn about why we know the Earth is the way it is, read a book on basic geology.

Or if you want to keep trolling, don't read a book. Don't educate yourself, and God forbid, don't look at the reams of research out there. Then keep having these debates with people who present you the evidence you need, who easily refute the lone cooks on which you rely, who ask that you but take an even handed look at things. Just keep ignoring them entirely, and especially don't counter any the evidence they may have.
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 85 (view)
 
the earth is growing
Posted: 10/13/2008 8:52:14 PM
That the earth started out much smaller than it is now, and as it expanded the upper shell of the earth broke apart forming the giant landmasses we know them to be today.

or

The earth has always been the same size, all the land as we know it used to be a giant island that broke up and went sailing until they settled on their current positions.

...or the correct explanation:
The Earth was originally a molten ball of rock, which has undergone a continuous cooling process as its inner energy is radiated off into space. The solid crust on the surface of the Earth that consequently formed moves on the underlying fluid mantle. The movement is fueled by the inner flow dynamics of that mantle. And yshi is right, the tectonic plates are still moving. You can actually measure that movement on a daily basis with the right tools.

The mass added to Earth by meteorites is beyond insignificant. Contrary to what your quote asserts, you do not see their presence in limestone/coal/etc. deposits. Seriously, if you want to learn about this stuff, don't rely on websites written by ignorant cooks with laughable substantiations. Read a good book on Geology instead.

PS. Went through the site. Had a good laugh. Dude, it's a frickin' joke - why would you fall for that crap?
 iSeal
Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 81 (view)
 
the earth is growing
Posted: 10/13/2008 3:41:52 PM
Actually, there is proof of oceans 500 million years ago. There are water-borne crustaceans are in what is now 550 million year old rock.

Anyways, what's the point of persisting in this debate when a non-expert, in the face of overwhelming and *simple* evidence by the experts, refuses to even consider their views? It's an incredibly unbalanced perception of things. It's like the 911 truthers, or the moon landing deniers.

A debate involves reason. This isn't a debate, it's a bunch of people trying to appease someone who would rather believe in magic. There is no room for reason there.
 
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