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Thread: pen pals in prison..
debzindahouse
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pen pals in prison..
Posted:
9/21/2009 7:48:45 AM
I have a pen pal in an Oklahoma prison - my 24yo nephew lol Two of my other three nephews have done time as well, but they've been released... Hoping they lay low for a while lol
debzindahouse
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If a woman claims to have been raped shouldn't she report it?
Posted:
9/20/2009 6:24:55 AM
Not me. I can hold her responisble for being in a position where left herself vulnerable to rape, but the blame for the rape itself lies squarely with the rapist.
I guardedly agree. It begs the question that if a man gets drunk and ends up getting raped by another male, would we say the drunk man made himself vulnerable to rape? You're absolutely right that the blame for the rape lies squarely with the rapist. I'd add that the victim's actions, dress, whereabouts and state of sobriety should play no moral or legal role in the matter whatsoever. 'No' means 'no', and that should be the end of the matter. Applying 'secondary' blame serves only the rapist, as it diminishes his guilt.
debzindahouse
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Was it fair to give man ASBO for playing Status Quo 24/7?
Posted:
9/20/2009 6:19:47 AM
^^^^^ Or Stardeath & White Dwarfs...
debzindahouse
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Utterley stupid!
Posted:
9/19/2009 4:28:49 AM
At my previous job, my colleagues made a right meal of one of my bloopers. I kept pronouncing the word "Briton" as you would "Brighton". I thought that was the correct pronunciation. They never let me live that down!
debzindahouse
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Was the school right to announce a 12yo student's sex change?
Posted:
9/18/2009 4:42:59 PM
I think an individual in England must be 18 to have the actual operation, but can get hormone therapy long before that.
And if you think 12 is too young to make such a big decision, wait til you hear this! A 9yo primary school boy was allowed to return to school this term as a girl... with the blessing of his teachers and active encouragement of his headmistress, who lets him use the girls loo!
Full story here:
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2645444/Now-boy-9-is-a-girl.html
debzindahouse
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Was the school right to announce a 12yo student's sex change?
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9/18/2009 4:03:29 PM
No, the child wasn't a hermaphrodite. Not sure when this happened, but it's in the news now. The boy is on the list for gender reassignment, but until then he is receiving pre-op medical treatment and dressing and living as a girl.
debzindahouse
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Was the school right to announce a 12yo student's sex change?
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9/18/2009 3:50:04 PM
"A school in southeast England called an emergency assembly to tell children that a 12-year-old male pupil was having a sex change. The boy arrived for his first term at secondary school wearing a dress and with long hair in ribboned pigtails after his parents changed his name to a female one by deed poll over the summer holidays. However, the boy, who is preparing to undergo hormone treatment and sex change surgery, was immediately taunted by classmates who recognised him from primary school.
As a result, the 1,000-pupil school in south east England decided to call an emergency assembly ordering children to treat him as a girl and use his new name. But parents have reacted angrily after some youngsters were apparently left in tears by the news. They claim that the head teacher should have informed parents of the matter beforehand, so that they could have discussed gender issues with their children.
One mother, whose daughter was a classmate of the boy at primary school, told The Sun: "She [my daughter] told me that the pupil is already a target for bullying. What has really upset the parents is that the school didn't see fit to send us a letter first so we could explain it to children in our own way. Maybe we could have explained sexual politics and encouraged our kids to be more sensitive. They were simply told, 'You may notice one pupil is not present in this assembly – that is because the pupil is now a girl'. The girl, as she now is, will go through hell because of how this has been handled."
It is understood that at primary school, the boy's head teacher insisted that children treat him as a boy, despite his feminine behaviour, which included wearing a bikini for swimming lessons, wearing his hair in pigtails and using riding a pink scooter. However, the secondary school has provided him with a separate lavatory and changing room in its sports hall.
The boy's mother told The Sun: "We are committed to ensuring the very best for our child. We are working with other agencies to ensure our child's welfare is protected."
Source:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6204181/Boy-12-is-having-sex-change-school-annouces.html
So, do you think the school was right to make this announcement, or do you think it's political correctness gone amok? Could they have dealt with the situation another way?
How do you think you'd feel if your child said he/she felt "trapped" in his/her own body and wanted a sex change before puberty kicked in? Would you be prepared to face the challenges?
debzindahouse
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Was it fair to give man ASBO for playing Status Quo 24/7?
Posted:
9/18/2009 2:56:48 PM
He should've been slung in nick just for
owning
a Status Quo record! They're an auditory assault on humanity.
debzindahouse
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If a woman claims to have been raped shouldn't she report it?
Posted:
9/18/2009 8:03:55 AM
I'd never be so presumptuous as to tell a rape victim how she should deal with such a tragic situation. It's her choice - and hers alone.
debzindahouse
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Profile Preference Of Colour !
Posted:
9/18/2009 7:52:09 AM
I only date white men. My heart, my mind, my body, my choice. Label me what you like. I don't give a rip.
debzindahouse
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Are parents immune to how annoying their kids are?
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9/18/2009 4:22:36 AM
^^^^ Mac, I think there are key reasons we're all squabbling over this issue and will never agree with each other. They are: A) "misbehaviour" is subjective, so we're all talking at cross purposes; B) some people believe adults are
intrinsically
more important than children; and C) some forumites REALLY love kids (and therefore are more tolerant) and some forumites REALLY dislike children (and therefore believe children should be muzzled, strapped to their beds and barricaded indoors). So there's no way we'll forge an agreement on this issue.
Children have as much right to frequent ice cream parlors, poncey restaurants, theatres, the cinema, etc, and anywhere else we parents choose to bring them.
C'mon, there's gotta be something deeply, basically and intrinsically
wrong
with someone who REALLY dislikes children, and as far as I'm concerned, it's precisely these individuals who need to learn about social skills and consideration. Hatefully referring to youngsters as "ignorant brats, irrating as fk, under-educated thugs, useless delinquents, little shits" rather proves this point.
As my 8yo says, "Kids rule, grown-ups drool"
debzindahouse
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Men Cooking = Brownie Points?
Posted:
9/17/2009 4:40:00 PM
I care not a jot whether a man can cook, but...
some skills like the ability to breathe through your ears
...will most definitely get my attention!
What I can't do is give myself a cuddle or a blow job.
Creases me up!
debzindahouse
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The 'Rebel' side to you
Posted:
9/17/2009 8:50:25 AM
I've always rebelled against everything - authority, popular opinion, whatever. It's the norm for me. Sometimes I long to break free... and conform.
debzindahouse
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Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted:
9/17/2009 8:45:52 AM
Yeah, it's the male equivalent of middle-aged women posting profile photos of themselves with their baps hoiked up to their chins.
debzindahouse
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in the wrong? or too much of a risk?
Posted:
9/17/2009 8:40:36 AM
Legalities aside, I think you were morally right to act in this manner. Obviously, this lad's parents and the lifeguard didn't see the events or didn't care, so this is a shining example of "the village raising the child" and I'm all for it.
debzindahouse
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Are parents immune to how annoying their kids are?
Posted:
9/17/2009 8:02:05 AM
That is their parents job, if a child needs attention it is the parents that should be giving it, not a stranger who could end up being a total fruit cake and should be viewed with suspicion if they go around talking to all the attention seeking children they meet, that's how pedophiles lure their victims is it not/ by talking to other peoples children...Really some should be looking after their own or minding their own business !
So I'm a fruitcake and a paedophile because I communicate well with children? Then I guess that makes every person who's ever come into friendly contact with a child a paedo and fruitcake as well - teachers, nurses, childminders, doctors, police and every one else for that matter. Sounds a bit hysterical to me. If you read my post properly, you'd have noticed I wrote, "I communicate well with children". That's a far cry from skulking round playgrounds luring toddlers into the woods for sweets.
Some of us are not interested in making an effort with someone else's children and have gone out to have a quiet meal with no intrusions from children or anyone else! As said if the child is attention seeking then its own parents should deal with it ..
Probably better off cooking dinner at home in that case, because I'm afraid you'll find children are everywhere. What one person calls an "intrusion" another person may not even notice. Granted, if a toddler is throwing a full-blown hissyfit, chucking themselves on the floor and all that lark, then yes the parents really ought to diffuse the situation, take the child home and give him or her a nap. But if we're talking about a kid who's simply wriggling around on their seat, or singing a little too loudly, or developed a case of the giggles, then it's really rather curmudgeonly to grunt and hiss. You're the grown-up. Move to a different table or choose another restaurant.
Would that include the village idiot? and Rubbish, it takes responsibility and commitment to endure/embrace the trials and tribulations of parenthood, and if everyone went around expecting others to become responsible for their children's actions, then its no wonder the generations that are now finding their feet are turning into a generation of undereducated thugs who think the world owes them...
I'm sure all the parents in this thread are keenly aware of what it takes to raise a child. There's a fine line between being watchful and downright paranoid. And I don't know how "undereducated thugs who think the world owes them" entered the fray. I thought we were talking about noisy children in public. I never suggested anything about outsiders "raising" other people's children for them. What I actually wrote was, "Children learn a little something from every adult they meet." Meaning, no matter how fleeting the contact with an adult, a child will take away a little something about the world they live in and standards of adult behavior. Sadly, adults behave worse than a child ever could.
some of us after making the effort to bring our children up properly, teaching them to say Please and Thank you, to not intrude on other people when out in public and generally behave, are sick to death of all the bleeding heart story's and excuses that are made for badly behaved brats that are dragged up by their apathetic parents.....
There's no excuse for apathetic parents. And when their kids go wrong, I put the blame squarely on the parents - not their kids, who simply weren't taught any better. Call it bleeding heart if you like, but facts are facts - kids learn what they are taught.
Parents don't have to be harsh, intolerant, child-hating ogres to produce well-behaved offspring. Most people don't mind a child's cute little noises, fidgeting and restlessness, tone-deaf singing, squabbling and general silliness. My sons are two of the most polite, well-behaved (in public, at least) little lads you're ever likely to meet. At 8 and 12, they hold doors open for people and always let ladies and OAPs board buses and take seats first. Even though my 12yo is disabled and uses a walking frame, he still lets ladies and OAPs go first. They say please and thank you, and know very well indeed how to behave in public, thank you very much. God spare anyone who refers to my beautiful babies as "brats".
debzindahouse
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Rudeness on 1st date.! Or What,
Posted:
9/15/2009 8:25:36 PM
She was definitely out of order, OP. I'm sure you didn't intentionally misrepresent yourself by posting someone else's picture on your profile, so there was no need for her to be so rude. She should have had the grace to stay and chat for an hour or so.
debzindahouse
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Would you seek out your soulmate in America?
Posted:
9/15/2009 7:48:00 PM
I don't believe in 'soulmates' but as a Septic who's stuck in the UK, I'd much prefer to date and hang out with fellow Americans. I find our guys soooo much better-looking and the women soooo much more fun and friendly. I will defo move back home in a couple more years, so I'm keeping my UK relationships light and airy. I'll open my heart when I'm back on my turf.
debzindahouse
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Restless Legs Syndrome!!!
Posted:
9/15/2009 7:10:41 PM
Yep, my mom and I both have it. The leg doesn't ache or hurt, but just won't relax. I end up kicking the bed in my sleep. A good stretch sometimes helps.
debzindahouse
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Are parents immune to how annoying their kids are?
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9/15/2009 10:09:58 AM
By all means, kids should be taught basic manners. Pauline mentioned children who use foul language, and I think we can all agree that's entirely unacceptable, along with causing damage to other people's property and things like that. But I got the impression this thread was about noise levels, in which case I wouldn't lump noise under the "ill-mannered" category. What is annoying to one person isn't to the next, and noisy children simply don't bother some of us. It will depend on the circumstances, of course, but I rarely find children annoying, regardless how loud they are, because I relate well to kids, and usually they're just looking for a bit of attention anyway. If you give them a bit of your time, they soon settle down. I too have been in restaurants where an active child has leaned over the seats and stared down at me making noises or something. Doesn't faze me at all. I just smile and chat with him/her for a bit because he/she is most likely bored, being ignored and simply wants a bit of attention. It takes a village to raise a child. Children learn a little something from every adult they meet. Seems a lot of adults have forgotten what it's like to view the world from a child's point of view.
debzindahouse
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Are parents immune to how annoying their kids are?
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9/15/2009 9:05:51 AM
The title of the thread states "are parents immune to how annoying their kids are?" with an example of one incident. If that's not generalising and tarring all children with the same brush then I don't know what is.
We're also discussing one person's perception of noise, and inserting our own idea of what noise it. H never gave any real indication of the level of sound. It may well have been the excited chatter of a birthday girl/boy she was listening to, and her ears may be far more sensitive to sound than others.
With all due respect, I stand by what I say: social nicety is a learned behaviour and everyone - adults and children alike - have off days.
You got it, T8stee. OP quite happily admits she dislikes children, so it's a fair bet she considers
any
of their noises an annoyance, including their joyful sounds that most people would find endearing and cute. Most of us love children, but others don't. Difference of perspectives, I guess. Those of us who have children tend to see the beauty in them and would prefer the sound of them having fun than that of some unhappy singleton sighing heavily and tut-tutting in the corner. Now,
that's
annoying!
Both in title and content, this thread was condescending, but that's just my opinion.
Not at all. Quite a few of us share your view.
debzindahouse
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If Your Happy And You Know It Clap Your Hands !!
Posted:
9/13/2009 4:01:54 PM
I'm happy because I had a great day with my wonderfully NOISY sons. The business, they are! No sound as beautiful as laughing, joyful children having fun as they discover the world around them.
debzindahouse
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Are parents immune to how annoying their kids are?
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9/13/2009 10:46:08 AM
^^^^ Yeah, I caught OP's "it" reference too, Colin-42. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
This went on for about half an hour, the parents just completely ignored it, stopping once in a while to feed it pizza and ice-cream.
debzindahouse
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Extremely annoying commercials
Posted:
9/12/2009 7:07:31 PM
Confused.com and comparethemarket.com - I've reached saturation point. Grrrr........
debzindahouse
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Are parents immune to how annoying their kids are?
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9/12/2009 6:58:33 PM
Beautifully put, Aunty (message 16). There's a difference between noisy and ill-behaved. Kids are naturally noisy - it's part of their charm. I'd rather listen to a gaggle of happy kids having fun than a bunch of miserable, granite-faced, grumbling old gits any day of the week! If children misbehave or are rude, that's a different matter - that's down to poor parenting and lack of discipline.
debzindahouse
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Would you do any job rather than be unemployed?
Posted:
9/10/2009 4:50:02 AM
This won't be a popular answer, but I'd rather be unemployed than take a menial job for which I'm overqualified. But then again, I'm in a fortunate position and would probably have a different perspective if I had no qualifications and limited resources. I'd rather do volunteer work than earn minimum wage. It gives people job experience, looks good on a CV, provides networking and social opportunities and demonstrates initiative. And it makes you feel useful while you're not doing anything else.
debzindahouse
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Dating in the dark
Posted:
9/10/2009 4:41:29 AM
I wouldn't do it. A man's looks are too important to me. No way I'll bed a minger, regardless how sparkling his conversation is.
debzindahouse
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Sexpectations When Dating
Posted:
9/10/2009 4:31:05 AM
As for expecations when you start doing someone else's thinking with your head you will invariably always come up with the wrong answer.
It pains me to admit this, but I have to agree with Macforty for once.
debzindahouse
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Whose type are you, do you attract a type?
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9/8/2009 5:29:28 PM
I've always been drawn to rock/metal guitarists or frontmen with full sleeve tats and long hair... the bipolar artist type - wild and exciting! But do they ever glance in my direction? Do they b*llox! The only men interested in me are in their 50s, have sensible jobs and can't wait to retire. Just shoot me.
debzindahouse
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gold diggers
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9/8/2009 2:52:25 PM
I saw that Trisha episode! That girl wasn't a very good gold digger. She gave the impression she wanted to be a gold digger, but didn't have the savvy for it. There are far better examples out there. I don't have a problem with women being gold diggers. The wealthy men they go with are just as shallow... They want arm candy and the women want their money in return. It's a simple business transaction, and as long as everyone is getting what they want, then good on 'em all.
debzindahouse
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women hitting men
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9/8/2009 2:09:30 PM
If youre prepared to throw a punch, be prepared to take one back. Regardless of gender.
I agree. I've been in fights with men (not boyfriends)... One of them took place in a taxi queue a few years back. The guy made the first move - he shoved me so I whacked him one. He belted me back and I returned the favor with a swift right. We both walked away with a few cuts and bruises. I don't give a rip. B*stard probably thinks twice now before he thumps a woman. Some of us fight back.
debzindahouse
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Booze Asbo !!
Posted:
9/1/2009 9:34:07 AM
These drinking ban orders are a complete waste of time - they'll be inefficient and impossible to police. If the councils were truly concerned about town drunks, they'd kerb the number of offies, clubs and bars allowed to trade within defined areas. Instead, they manufacture yet more legislation that essentially offloads responsibility on to retailers whose livelihoods depend on these alcohol sales. It's ludicrous to ask them to be public nannies. What next - forcing the kebab shops to limit chips sales because their customers are obese? The vast majority of us are perfectly capable of monitoring our alcohol intake, thank you very much, and those who don't should simply be charged under the existing "drunk and disorderly" law, which should carry harsher penalties.
Debzindahouse
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Who is in the wrong? Affairs within Marriage
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8/26/2009 3:31:03 PM
"A divorce can be granted if it is proven that one partner in a marriage has had an affair and committed adultery, defined as having had sexual intercourse with a person of the
opposite
sex other than their spouse, and if the spouse finds it intolerable for the marriage to continue."
Does this mean that if a married person has a gay affair, then divorce is not justifiable under UK law?
Debzindahouse
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No more Big Brother
Posted:
8/26/2009 12:28:11 PM
Good riddance to bad rubbish! If they can't find something decent to fill our screens, they should just air re-runs of Touch Of Frost or Silent Witness...
anything
but BB!
debzindahouse
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Are you a snob about anything?
Posted:
8/24/2009 6:44:43 PM
I don't have a problem with accents but dear God, if the word has a 't' in it then please make an effort to use it when speaking... Thing is not Fing .... Something is not somethinK... Thirty is not Furreee...
And "we was" and "I done it" as well! OMG they drive me absolutely bonkers! My eldest son, in particular, has a thick Sowf London accent and I'm forever correcting his grammar: "You didn't 'done' it, Finlay... You DID it." Grrrrr.......
debzindahouse
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Is excitment a thing of the past when we are in our 40s plus?
Posted:
8/24/2009 5:14:18 AM
Apart from a hot man next to me it would take a lot to excite me first thing in the morning as I am a lazy b1tch who never wants to get out of bed. I dont agree that age stops us feeling excitement though, maybe the things that get us going have changed. For example a few weeks ago the new Argos catalogue came out and by God I couldnt get there quick enough.
I hear ya, SJXX - it's a bit disturbing how excited I've been about my new slow cooker. Couldn't wait to try out a recipe for American-style shredded beef (it was scrummy, by the way!). Not quite ready for the Horlicks and knitting needles yet, though - I'm also amped about the L.A. Guns gig in Camden next month - absolutely peeing myself to see Tracii Lords burn that axe!
debzindahouse
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Time machine - where would you go and who would you meet?
Posted:
8/23/2009 10:18:45 AM
I'd go back to June 17, 1985, the day after I graduated from high school. I'd pack my bags, kiss Mom goodbye and hitchhike to Los Angeles to watch the birth of Guns N' Roses... up front and personal. I'd be a professional groupie - follow L.A. Guns and Hollywood Rose as they gigged West Hollywood, watch as they morphed into G'n'R, hang with the band, sleep with the band, appear in their videos and bang my crazy, amped-out head day and night... If I'd have done all that, even just for the beginning of their career, I'd die a happy woman, knowing I'd really, truly been "alive".
debzindahouse
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What Defines a Civilised Society?
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8/23/2009 7:55:34 AM
What makes a civilized society? The key features would be strict behavioral boundaries and tough penalties for stepping out of line - a society in which rights and responsibilities go hand in hand, and the common good of the people takes priority over the rights of the individual.
Adults are essentially oversized children – if we’re allowed to get away with something, we’ll do it – hence, for example, the scourge of repeat offenders and Asbo kids. I reckon crime would plummet if dire consequences were a certainty. The same principle applies on a personal level – politeness would probably make a speedy comeback if anti-social behavior suddenly resulted in social exclusion.
At the moment, criminality is repaid with a slapped wrist or, at worst, a brief, cushy stretch at taxpayers’ expense; thuggishness is rewarded with street cred and public apathy; laziness is repaid with a guaranteed income on benefits; and rudeness is met with indifference.
debzindahouse
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home alone and eating healthy.... or not
Posted:
8/23/2009 6:00:32 AM
I think eating healthily is a bit like going to the gym. You know it's good for you, you know you will feel much better for having been, but it's sooooooo damn hard at times to make the effort.
How true! Cooking for one is boring. I pretty much live off salads, Special K (with skimmed milk), packages of Asda’s “Good For You” pasta carbonara (only 3g of fat), chicken slices and mustard in Weight Watchers wraps or low-fat tomato or Thai chicken soup mixed with steamed basmati rice – all low-fat but far too high in carbs. Peanut butter is my weakness. I could eat a whole jar of the stuff in one go. Best not to buy it in the first place but my son loves it too, so after two spoonfuls, the jar goes back in the cupboard.
debzindahouse
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Food - all in the visual presentation?
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8/20/2009 2:47:40 PM
OP, a few years ago a friend and I had dinner at a similar restaurant in East Berlin called Nocti Vagus - not sure if it's still there. It was a real eye-opener (bad pun). The owners and all staff (except the chef) are blind. They confiscate anything that illuminates (mobis, lighters etc), then staff lead you through double doors to your table. You spend the entire evening 'feeling' your way through your meal in inky blackness. My friend and I thought the experience would be all style over substance but the chef came from a Michelin-starred restaurant and the food really was delish! Interesting pouring water from a full jug sitting on the table - you get an idea how blind people rely on their other senses. They said in a blind restaurant, your opinion is informed solely on taste and texture, rather than appearance. When we left, we were covered in food and crumbs, but at least you can nick food off your friend's plate with impunity lol. It's a very sensual experience, best shared with a lover.
Apparently, the first 'blind' restaurant opened in Zurich by a man whose wife is blind. He said it was a 'social experiment' and it was quite successful.
debzindahouse
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USA Right Attacks British NHS as Death Panels For Old
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8/20/2009 4:09:00 AM
I was surprised at the reaction to my post 26, which was a reaction to an "American" asserting how proud they are of their country, living in England and using the NHS.
Nothing wrong with being 'proud' of your country, regardless of where you happen to reside - but that's a debate for another thread.
Were the situation reversed, i.e. a Brit living in America then all health care would have to be paid, therefore having no effect on the American healthcare service.
Are you sure about this? Does the NHS have to reimburse US hospitals for treating British visitors? I've not heard of it, but perhaps it's true. I suspect a Brit living in America as a naturalised citizen or a resident alien needs medical coverage like everyone else - either from an employer or privately paid. Mind you, we also have Medicare and Medicaid, federally-funded programs that cover the elderly, vulnerable and those on low incomes.
I support the NHS, and am very aware of how cash strapped it is, how hard the staff work, and the responsibilities they have. I see nothing wrong at all with the NHS claiming costs for treatment to non resident’s health insurance. How many posters would expect to travel outside the EU without Insurance to cover health care?
I completely agree. Even as American citizens, my sons (who are dual US-British nationality) and I purchase medical insurance every time we travel back to the US to visit family. In fact, it would be irresponsible to travel abroad
anywhere
without medical insurance. During one visit to California, both my boys contracted chicken pox, which required medical treatment and delayed our return (non-refundable) flights. Thank goodness the insurance covered all of it, even the cost of the rescheduled return flight!
Who care's? They're American's. If they want to kill off a load of themselves by not providing healthcare to the most needy let them. They are the highest polluter's on the planet, just withdraw healthcare completely and 'bang' no more global warming.
Awww, you feeling lonely and left out, mate?
debzindahouse
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No Redemption, No Life ?
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8/19/2009 3:01:05 AM
Should we be able condemn those to death on conviction who have no redeeming qualities based on their character and history rather than just the crime itself?
I'm all for the death penalty, especially for people such as little Peter Connelly's killers. They're probably the most hated people in Britain. Many believe you simply forego your 'right' to live when you commit such a heinous act. On the flipside though, I can see death penalty opponents arguing that your 'redeeming qualities' case doesn't account for mitigating factors (such as childhood abuse), the potential for rehabilitation, future good works and the opportunity for experts to study and learn from serious offenders. It's too divisive an issue.
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Offally good
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8/18/2009 12:17:35 PM
Thanks for having the intestinal fortitude to lay this subject bare... we forumites like a gutsy debate har har har
debzindahouse
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Emails sent just to be critical..
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8/17/2009 3:04:30 PM
Have you ever had these sort of messages or would you ever send them? Do you think these people are trying to help or just being as obnoxious as they possibly can?
Yeah, I've had a few of these moronic messages too. Always makes me giggle. I think they do it because they fancy you (they're reading your profile) but you wouldn't fancy them. It's just a cheap parting shot. Pity 'em and delete.
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Do you look good for your age?
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8/17/2009 9:35:35 AM
I do okay for (nearly) 42, I think. Most people I've met guess I'm mid- to late 30s - can't complain about that.
When you look in the mirror what do you think? Are you happy with what you see or do you long to change the way you look?
I'd jump at the chance of a nose job if finances would stretch.
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Petrol emissions & the environment
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8/17/2009 9:10:37 AM
I don't own a car so that's my contribution! I've got two legs, a bike and a travelcard lol
debzindahouse
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how do you know if someone is out of your league
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8/17/2009 7:01:35 AM
The older I get, the more 'out of my league' guys get lol
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Single women prefer married men! (It's true)
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8/17/2009 6:24:24 AM
Is the other woman not using him to alleviate her own bitterness, inadequacy and insecurity?
Perhaps. But, as other posters have mentioned, she may simply want a commitment-free fling. Who knows?
Her
motivation is secondary to the issue. Fair enough, it may not be
nice
to play with someone else's toys (ie, husband), but then again, the other woman isn't breaking any promises or betraying any vows either.
If you're arguing that the 'other woman' should
share
the blame for the affair, then I entirely disagree. Is the wife hurt that the
other woman
has betrayed her? No, because the other woman
hasn't
betrayed her. The wife is hurt that her
husband
has betrayed her. So it's her
husband's
misdeeds that have caused the pain. I can't make it any clearer than that.
How did the world react back in 2003 when we learned a band of obese American teens had launched a lawsuit against McDonald's for making them fat? Most of us were gobsmacked at the plaintiffs' complete and utter lack of personal responsibility. Well, how is cheating any different? Life is full of temptation. A married man who plays away then blames the 'other woman' for leading him astray is simply abdicating personal responsibility.
debzindahouse
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USA Right Attacks British NHS as Death Panels For Old
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8/15/2009 9:35:56 PM
I'm speechless! The poster has lived here for 15 years and quite possibly has been paying NI that whole time. There is a good chance the father of the child is from the UK and has been paying NI his whole life. Or ... you could realise that this child was most likely born here and has as much right to medical treatment as mine or yours or anyone else's and why on earth should the poster have insurance to reimburse the NHS?
Thank you, *Nats* - you're right on all counts. I've been working and paying National Insurance since the day I arrived here 15 years ago... and I'm very happy to do so. Both my sons were born in England and their father (my ex-husband) is British (and as you correctly guessed, has been working and paying NI his entire life). And I anticipate my sons too will be paying their NI stamp when they're old enough to work. Me? Well, I exercise, eat healthily, take my vitamins and have quit smoking (via a Boots quit-smoking programme) so my personal demands on vwulme's NHS are minimal.
I hope your health insurance (which I am sure you would need as a proud American living abroad) reimbursed the hard put NHS so they will not have to refuse treatment to yet another UK resident who has paid into our system all their life.
Vwulme, private US health insurance would not have reimbursed the NHS, as the patient (my son) in this case was a British citizen. But for the record, I'm living in England on a resident visa, so every pound of tax taken from my income is paid to your British government.
debzindahouse
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Single women prefer married men! (It's true)
Posted:
8/15/2009 8:44:46 PM
I was married and said 'no'. So the man wasn't a cheater and yes the woman (women) were deserving of blame - and all of it- for trying to entice me to cheat.
No harm, no foul. If no infidelity took place, then blame is not required.
Historically, injured wives (understandably) viewed it risky to blame their husbands (breadwinners) for any wrongdoing. If he took offense, he may beat her - or even walk out on her, leaving the family destitute. So lashing out at the seductress became the safer option. It suited men well - they got off scot-free. This culture continues today, even though women are no longer economically dependent on men.
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