wonder why that is so difficult to understand, oh well i tried.

Me, if the kissing wasnt any good, I wouldnt continue on with the process. But thats just me

p.s. mchurch, you want women's hips to look like Demi's do ya?

Church: I'm happy you're happy with who you are with.. as long as your happy, you will.. well, be happy with her. In the meantime, you forget that you have disclosed that your g/f has many issues due to the dynamics of her previous swinger lifestyle and the abuse she endured from her ex. You love her, so her "imperfections" are invisible to you.. they may not be to someone who doesn't love her, Using your criteria.. they would rule her out strictly based on her previous lifestyle ..

Tell me.. If you had, had first date sex with her.. would you hold her in lesser esteem? Would you have only allowed yourself to perceive her as a support system for a vaj, even while knowing how wonderful she is and how compatible you both were.

this was a federal program and it ended April 1, 2007.
so much misinformation in this thread... *sigh*

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so much misinformation in this thread... *sigh*

By your math, you should be simply good fvck material, but then get discarded when a "purer" man with better "morals" come along.

What makes the woman you are with now, so much better, as a SO?

Being that you would not stick around with your FB's long enough to live with them, how do you know that they would not be a better overall fit for you?

And why is your SO not holding you to the same standard, as you hold women?

Acquire?

Women, who know they want YOU, and no one else, do not make it difficult for them to be "acquired" by you.

That's incredibly insecure.
Seeing as a woman can get laid by virtually any male, to think that she's approaching you, simply because of the convenience that you happen to be available, is most amusing.

You want a woman who's just not into you?

If someone needs to "work" at keeping someone else, they're not a good match.

I can tell by how a woman talks to me, and how she fvcks me, exactly how interested she is in me.

Nevertheless, what do you men think? Do you think women are responsible for their own orgasms?

You might be dating women who are dating out of desperation, and the idea is to, "keep a man".

I own my sexuality. I am a sexual being, and I will not beggar down to other people's standards.

My Girlfriend and I have had this conversation many times...
We want to be sitting on the porch, gently swinging, or rocking and holding hands in our old age....
So for us, the rocking chair is a goal... a sign of completion....

Maybe try doing it now a bit more often? It’s very healthy, I think. One of you may not make it to “old age”, and you will miss out on it.

Sex in the beginning of a relationship is as much of an application process as the rest is.

Its not gonna cost anyone more if thats what your thinking.
Most people don;t understand this and figure its gonna cost more for stuff.
Sorry its not.

I think that it's a crock that men don't date single moms. Almost every single mom I know has a BF. Just my personal observation.

I'd like to know how their dating practices and philosophies are actually working for them.
And so, OP, and Camper, I re ask my questions above.

Yes you have a disease, so now put your pecker on the table and hit it hard with a hammer. That will teach you. And every time you think of those photos, go back to the kitchen, hit your pecker hard with a hammer and say "Thank you sir can I have another."

Pick up sex (as far as I can see) is a completely different animal then Sex on the first DATE.

Well then lets recap: According to you the only difference in length of time you remained together with some of the onese that you picked up and fvcked is the fact that you lived with the ones you waited 3 months to screw. These 'virtuous" 3 month'ers faired no better as long as the length of time you remained together as they're no longer in the picture either. You waited "longer" with your current girlfriend because you needed to to make sure she didn't catch HIV from her ex.. so it's not like you were any more virtuous in that situation than you were in any of the others.

I thought we were talking about first DATES.. not pickup sex??? Ya know, dates where you've had some time to interact whether on line, on the phone in person, through group activities, mutual friend introductions that type of thing ~ A DATE. .

How long did you wait before you had sex?

You were a PLAYA, Church.. You would have dumped them for another girl whether she fvcked you on the 1st or the 50th date.. It was who you were at the time..

The women you slept with on your first date(s) you asked out because you were (at least somewhat) sexually intersted in them, and you had sex with them for that same reason. You wanted to have sex with them, you weren't forced. Is that not so?

And besides, if you say, in reference to sex, "Ok... so that's all there is...." I say you are doing it wrong. You are talking about sex - the very thing that propelled you to ask out those women on the first place. If you feel there is nothing special about sex, or "just sex", what drives you to ask women out in the first place? What's the initial attraction?

If two people are honest about wanting a monogamous FWB, it's very possible and easy to manage actually.

Don't assume the worst in others because you yourself couldn't see being in a FWB.

I am so heartily sick of hearing how a woman who sleeps with a man she doesn't love, or sleeps with a man on the first date, means that she has no respect for herself.

Actually my current bf and I slept together early on and we're in a loving relationship that has lasted 2 years. If we break up, it will have nothing to do with sleeping with him too soon.

Those are 3 different flathead catfish, thus my name flathunter.

I'd tell him to back off or go away.

Five weeks? I wouldn't even tell a man where I lived after only five weeks.

Sexual compatibility is very important,

any advice would be great thankyou

I dont want him to think he can just come back into my life again and act like everything is fine. any sugguestions any one

There’s a difference between love making and sex. And sex is something you should be good at it

If any woman does a FWB she is an idiot. Once in a while I can understand.
But to be doing that regularly as a free prostitute? She would have to be mentally
challenged to be doing that.

I can't imagine saying to some guy "you can use my body for your sexual needs
whenever you want because we are friends". It sounds so sad and degrading
for the woman.

Some women can best be described as "handsome". It doesnt mean that they are a lesbian, it just means that they are not exactly feminine looking, but they are still attractive...

Getting f**ked is easy. Finding a compatible partner is another.

Frankly... every man Ive slept with... Ive been far more "experienced" & "interesting" sexually than they were.
So I'll say this...
I can work on a good sexual relationship with a man I have feelings for...
What I cant change is a guy with a sh*tty personality who I just dont like... and values that are different to my own.

First, I don't care about losing most people's respect. They more than likely wasn't that important to me anyway.

2ndly Shit happens. I ain't worried about that, I won't justify that. But shit happens and I chose a guy and sexed him without much thought to the future of my relationship or the kids. Marriage was on a humbug. I fly here, I do this, I do that. If it works it works. If it doesn't it doesn't. So be it. Pretty much how I live the life.
The best laid plans.... are always torn up with a jackhammer. That's if I bothered to plan at all... and a lotta times I don't. I fly around, and whereever I land is where I land. I deal with it to the best of knowledge and ability.

Where ever I go.... there I am.

Some people might think you easy. Especially men think that way. Which is stupid.

If I have sex with a man who turns out to be a narrow minded sexist madonna/whore misogynist, how can it possibly be a problem that he showed me early who he was and what he was all about??

As for any potential relationships my whorishness (is that even a word) might have "killed" early, I consider it a blessing.

1. Should a guy go back into a relationship after being dumped?
2. Is it valid to say that people tend to fall into there old habits. Breakup/cheat/get back together.
3. Once the trust is gone in a relationship, is it gone forever?
4. Is it possible to take a year or more to fall in love with someone?

Well since this is all about TIME. I can't help but wonder, how often are you talking about seeing said person. Once a week, three to five times a week, once a month?
I mean for me-If I am seeing someone three times a week, six months would be a long time to wait. HOWEVER, if I am only seeing this person once or twice a month, six months might not be long enough.

Hard to find any woman who wants to have sex period. All they want is friendship or to chat.

Like to know everything about a woman before entering into a relationship, including sex. Once I've experienced this, and all the other aspects of her personality and life, then I decide if she's right for me.

This is about him, and him only.

She was a virgin till 21 when I met her.

Then were are the daddies Azzhole? OH yea ... they aren't involved in their childrens lives because of the mother. hahahaha

So the woman goes and complains to you about the guy being an ass and you say ‘well didn’t you see the warning signs?’

All my "friends" were exclusive, monogamous relationships that simply lacked romantic love. I wouldn't consider being in a relationship where they're sleeping around - that's just yucky and it's one thing when you think you've been sleeping with all their past partners, it's another when they continue to acquire them.