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matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Alluring dress with hard-eyed looks ... what does a woman mean? Posted: 8/29/2009 3:01:12 PM
I'll spell something out that should be obvious: AceOfSpace, if this girl in the sexy get-up is not your date, odds are she didn't wear the dress for you. The women I know (including myself) generally choose attire to express ourselves, not to impress a certain person. If I feel sexy and express it in my clothing, I may attract more than just the ones I find desirable, so I'll have to give the rest the brush-off. Try not to take it personally. (Sorry if a hundred women already replied just this response, but I don't have time to read every entry.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Needs Assessment Not Working Properly Posted: 6/28/2008 2:29:04 AM
Honestly, you are better off not doing this part of the profile. I find it extremely narrow-minded and probably puts off more people (and puts me off them as well) than it can possibly attract. The producers simply don't have the hardware or software or space or speed or whatever to accomplish such a sophisticated goal. I find it particularly stupid to refer to these personality trait stereotypes as "Needs," and they certainly have nothing to do with "chemistry," however nice it would be to check that out over the web. I'm sorry I filled out this test and wish I could remove it from my profile.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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what is the meaning behind this?? Posted: 12/14/2007 2:13:13 PM
He's using you, and says he's "not connecting," to make sure you are cool with being used. If you value your self-esteem, kick this A$$Hole to the curb before it's too late!

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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do guys like the smell of a woman's natural vagina? Posted: 12/8/2007 12:48:33 AM
Whether a fragrance is pleasant or not is very subjective; the sex of both people involved, and how they feel about each other counts a lot. Loving someone goes hand in hand with loving their ever-present unique smells. Notice that it is mostly the women here, who are concerned about "fishy" smells? I've noticed that as a fresh fish starts to go off, it releases ammonia, one of the by-products of pee as it degrades. A woman (or perhaps a brother or male friend) gets the message that a wash is in order, as uncleanliness is associated with sickness. But the same woman who might smell like fish to another woman may smell good to a man, especially if he is devoted to her. Temporary odors that she finds unpleasant are forgivable or even pleasant to her lover, because we associate a person's smells with the great feelings they give us. A person's most basic scent is present in all their excreted fluids (including saliva, groin, belly button, and feet), this is how all baby animals can recognize mama and papa in a crowd. Has anyone else heard about the studies of armpit smelling and DNA? There is some evidence that women are more attracted to a particular man's BO, when that man has a DNA profile that is complementary to hers (having what hers lacks will give the offspring better chances). I once dated a guy who I loved only as a friend. It might have grown into more, but I couldn't get past his funky natural smell, especially in his hair oil. Yet I've had a lover with armpits I wanted to rub my face in, as gloriously as many men here revel in the "natural" vagina.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Review my POF profile Posted: 12/7/2007 10:51:22 PM
Your impression of the world of internet dating is elegantly expressed, revealing earnestness in your desires, intelligence, and authenticity. Your smile is adorable. I agree with everything you said, and hope you stick your head in once in a while, in case there is a miracle and people can work out a new etiquette that actually works in this social venue.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Please review my profile Posted: 12/7/2007 10:40:51 PM
I thought your profile was well organized and full of information that would appeal to the right man. I think the internet is already too full of peoples' "Stories" about themselves, and being honest about who you are and what you enjoy doing is essential if you want to attract the down-to-earth, compassionate, and creative person you seem to deserve.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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too strange ?? Posted: 12/7/2007 10:34:47 PM
I like it. The way you punctuated your stream-of-consciousness actually makes it very readable, even though it appears dense at first glance. I've seen profiles that were far more strange, and even when you are naughty, you get away with it because you are kind of cute and obviously have a good sense of humor. The way you just lay things on the line shows confidence, and your wide range of interests predicts that you might occasionally be flexible about the club, if the right person was making you a better offer.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Why is smoking pot a crime? Posted: 9/23/2007 9:01:57 PM
In Oregon, smoking pot is a crime because the voters want it to be. In the 1970's and 1980's, pot advocated repeatedly collected enough petitions to put de-criminalistion on the ballot, and every single time, it was defeated by a land slide. I personally don't care if people unconcerned about the health effects (male sterility, lung cancer, etc) smoke pot in their own homes, and would fight for chemotherapy and glaucoma patient's to be able to use it without stress. Smoked-up people who get behind the wheel are lethal weapons. Judgement is impaired at least as much as with alcohol. When I was in high school, my best friend was stoned and driving. She took a little bump in the road two fast, rolling the vehicle and killing her boyfriend. Trying to escape reality by pointing out that this is "anecdotal," is typical, too. If so many deaths have occured that we all know someone who got killed, it means too many people are getting killed. People who drive stoned are murderers, because they should have known better. I realize I sound like my mother, but I really wish I could share the sweetness of a mind that developed unimpaired by mood altering drugs.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Using women for practise? Posted: 6/1/2007 9:36:21 PM
I go by the Golden Rule also. If I was attracted to a guy enough to say yes to a date, and I later learned that he was not attracted to me, I would say, so what? Besides, Scorpiomover never said the woman was ugly. He made it very clear that she was just not the kind that made him sweat and stutter. I'd be relieved he wasn't sweating and stuttering all over me, because THAT WOULD make me feel uncomfortable.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Using women for practise? Posted: 6/1/2007 9:19:08 PM
Scorpiomover, I find this a very interesting question. In a very real sense, everyone we date who doesn't turn out to be our soul mate is practise, because we LEARN from those experiences. We learn what we really want, and get a better handle on who we ourselves are. And everyone could stand to practise good communication skills. It ALL goes into that person we will be WHEN the right person comes along.. Consdider this: Let's say you went out with someone just for practice. You were considerate, relaxed, concentrating on being a better date. Let's say your date was doing the same thing to you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you might just end up in a good relationship with that person. You have to know someone for any intial attraction to take hold and be more than just a hormonal impulse. . . For those who are so judgemental of the OP, I think it is downright dumb to attach such a moral significance to the word "use." What some of you are doing is projecting your own insecurities onto the theoretical "unattractive" female, making her a victim and patronizing in the process. What is WRONG is to assume that she is inferior to him simply because he does not find her attractive. Guess what? They are equals. She can take care of herself. Both people get something out of a date, it's called SOCIAL EXCHANGE, and its normal and healthy.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Suggestion: Display compatibility score on a profile Posted: 5/24/2007 9:40:29 PM
I disagree, because after checking out a lot of people's compatibility info link, it seems like most of us are very similar, if not the same. There are not enough factors measured. However, to correct this would be too expensive, and this site could not be free.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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NO HELP Posted: 5/24/2007 9:37:38 PM
I honestly do not have a common question- I want to know how to take the personality test over again- and the help page talks about "filling out the form" and "being patient," but there is NO ACTUAL LINK to send an email.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Showing interest Posted: 5/20/2007 3:15:06 AM
It really depends on the substance of your nice message. If a guy messages me and just says a few complimentary things, without mentioning any common interests, or telling me something interesting about himself ,or even asking me a question, then I probably would not respond. It wouldn't be personal- I simply wouldn't know what there was to say. I don't know any women who want to be chased, either.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Friends? Posted: 5/20/2007 3:00:54 AM
Onwaves, Maybe its just that yours is the male perspective, but I totally disagree, and I think I know a little more about what "a woman knows within three months." For me, a spark is not something that's either there or its not there. It has to do with being turned on, and I don't think I am alone among women in saying that a guy actually has to DO something that turns me on for me to get turned on. He might not DO that thing until after we have known each other a while. Maybe it is saving a kitten from a tree. Maybe it is making me laugh. Maybe it is looking at me a certain way. Maybe it is touching me in a certain way. Or maybe he does a few of those things, but sprinkled in between he has done things that turn me off, like disrespecting someone or swearing too much or slapping me in the a$$. Honest, onwaves, the only thing a woman knows for sure within a few minutes or a few months is when a guy is someone who will NEVER turn her on.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Friends? Posted: 5/20/2007 1:08:21 AM
Good question. I strongly disagree that the "Friends-thing" is just a courtship. Attraction may exist on both sides, without arriving at "mutual" levels for a period of time. The more you get to know someone, the more things you can potentially appreciate about them, but its hard to get to know someone (really know them) if you are in courtship mode from the get-go. From experience, I know you can be friends without anticipating a future romance at all, but then one day the spark hits you. After all, you can't really tell if a person is sexy (at a "keeper" level), just by going out a few times. For example, how does the other person know how to turn you on, if they don't know you? It also takes time to work out the subtle communication that some people require to indicate their romantic interest without making a fool of her/himself. I never think of friendship as "more than" friends, either- even if it is often "friends" PLUS chemistry. Why? Because the friend side of the equation is much more valuable, in the long term, than the "spark" side. Friendship is the necessary glue that holds a healthy romantic relationship together. It is a constant, while your desire ebbs and flows. When sex is the primary binder, people get their hearts broken, or stay in unhappy relationships, become "home-wreckers," and occasionally kill each other. The real problem in POF is that we are forced to choose between them by way of introduction. People say "friends" to take the pressure off, because they'd like more than a look-see and a few sniffs of the other person's pheromones before needing to make a decision to keep pursuing a relationship. If you say "friends," it gives you that time you need. It's less demanding. You can arrange for another meeting, and another, without worrying about charming the living daylights out of someone to prove you are Ms or Mr Right before their next POF "coffee date" is scheduled and you lose their attention.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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When someone says they are a genius!? Posted: 4/15/2007 7:29:04 PM
"Genius" is what scientists call anyone who tests at the 98th percentile or higher on any of many tests that have been specially designed by expert doctors and psychologists to determine an individual's ability to think. A super-genius tests at the 99.9th percentile. Geniuses, by definition, exist. However, brainpower is no sunstitute for experience or emotional maturity, and should not be confused with education. I suspect your date was trying to show you that you two could be equals even though you are much older (and therefore more experienced) than him. Yes, I think he was trying to tell you he could keep up with you. Look for my new thread: Why does everyone assume that being a genius is a GOOD thing?

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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saying I love you Posted: 4/15/2007 6:45:44 PM
Why do you need to hear it over and over again? Are you afraid he will stop, and you won't be able to tell by his behavior? If you think it is just sweet to be reminded of it a lot, tell him that. Otherwise, you come off as very insecure, and that is a turn off to many people. (Just my two pennies.)

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Saying I love you without having even met Posted: 4/15/2007 6:36:37 PM
Since you don't really know him, either, it is not wise to speculate what it says about him. He took a risk, saying it, so try not to be judgmental until you find out more. He's telling you these are his feelings. I would take advantage of the opportunity to ask him what he means by it- a good way to learn about a person.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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How can you tell if your in love? Posted: 4/15/2007 6:29:26 PM
When you are awash with giddy feelings and your physical rhythms are off ( can't sleep or eat), it's got to be hormonal. I call it the infatuation hormone and it's very fun. . . but like being high on a drug, not something that lasts, and you don't want to make important decisions under its influence. To me, real love is a verb; something you DO, not something that happens to you. It's a choice, and therefore you can control certain things about it. Like how to express it, what or how much to ask in return, and when to stop.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Why cant i find a man willing to commit Posted: 4/13/2007 1:27:46 AM
I'm wondering if, during these 4 or 5 months, you are seeing each other regularly or just off and on. Because if you were seeing each other regularly for that long, you must have had ample opportunities to make your attitude about this subject known. Especially if you've been intimate. It's possible, if you were just seeing them off and on, that to them you were just a "booty call." It is tough for women these days, because there are a lot of women out there who demonstrate (and therefore "normalize") sluttish behaviour. Men have to read the signals you put out, so do have a care in what those signals are. For example, it strikes me, that if your values are more traditional than not, perhaps you should think of a different name. "She Devil" sort of gives the impression that sex is more important to you than making a serious relationship with someone. just trying to help

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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I know I am being a shallow jerk, but going out w/ her anyway. Posted: 1/24/2007 2:04:22 PM
What about calling her Lily? That is a beautiful name that is fairly common with gen-Xers. However, you risk offending her if you act like its because you HATE her NAME; instead maybe suggest it as a special "pet" name that only you get to use. . . . it's just a thought . . .

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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A Few Extra Pounds Posted: 1/17/2007 11:54:50 AM
I don't think the problem is whether people are honest or not about their weight. The problem is that in filling out our profile, we are necessarily limited in how many options we have to describe our build. Since I happen to believe that each and every person in the world is unique, then none of our bodies can be accurately described in one word or even one sentence. It isn't weight that really matters, anyway. It is size and level of fitness. For those of us for whom weight is important, I suggest utilizing the option of not responding to profiles without a photo. In this day and age, with web cams often costing less than $20. there is simply no excuse for not having your photo posted (people are going to assume the worst, and rightly so, in most cases).

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Horseback riding experiences Posted: 1/11/2007 7:50:31 PM
My very first horseback ride was a kindness given to me by my dentist. (I should say, dental student; we were low income, so had all our treatments at the dental college.) He had horses and I must have sparked when he talked about it while working on my teeth. I was only seven or eight, and God bless my mama for letting me go. I got to bring my best girlfriend with me. I rode in front of the saddle on his horse, and my friend rode with his lovely wife. Since they were expert riders, we cantered most of the time and it was glorious. Being at that height was majestic, and the horses' graceful and powerful movement evoked a sense of freedom that got me hooked for life. It would be years before I rode again, but that first experience meant I never had any fear. That helped me to eventually work at a ranch leading trail rides and exercising the more cantankerous beasts.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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charlie horse Posted: 1/11/2007 7:40:22 PM
A good friend had what seems like a similar problem. It turned out to be a herniation of the wall of the vagina. Amazingly, they were able to correct it with a straightforward surgical "rebuild" of the area, with completely satisfactory results.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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OH SURE...it's easy to say CALL HIM...but what I want to know is, should I? Posted: 9/18/2006 11:45:24 PM
CALL HIM. He is the only one who knows why he didn't call, and as long as there is a chance it was based on a misunderstanding, you owe it to the both of you to find out. Be prepared for the truth, and just do it.

matisse808

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Wrong if you do...wrong if you don't... Posted: 9/18/2006 11:36:15 PM
Wow, Op, you were right about everything (except maybe waiting that 45 minutes to begin with! I don't wait more than 15 minutes, and only that long if the place we're meeting is new to them or they are new to the area, etc. Remember: if someone who doesn't deserve your respect disses you, then consider the source!)

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Why communication? Posted: 9/18/2006 11:20:33 PM
Try as you might, if there is no understanding, then there is no communication. If there is no empathy, there is no communication. If there is no "meeting of the minds," there is no communication. Communicating WELL is a skill that has to be learned, sometimes the hard way. The 80 year olds on the park bench who don't need to discuss anything, have probably been together for years, when things sometimes had to be hashed out. They are reaping the rewards of being great communicators!

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Why men don't date strong women... Posted: 9/18/2006 11:12:27 PM
It's nice to feel like we're needed. We want an independent woman that is totally capable of looking after herself but makes us feel like without us, she has no idea what she's doing. You're kidding, right? LMAO

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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I'm Not Attracted To Men My Age.... * Posted: 9/18/2006 11:06:02 PM
What the Fox, you're my role model! And WHAT is the deal with all these otherwise- presentable men who set their mail to only accept females 20-0 years younger than themselves? Even if I'm still "allowed" to email them, I must avoid these guys on principle.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Is Love a feeling or an action? Posted: 9/13/2006 7:29:33 AM
Love is a decision based on your feelings and the others' actions.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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what is with the never call again crap and why do we put up with it? Posted: 9/9/2006 4:36:23 PM
Don't take it personally. As Van Morrison sings in Domino, "And if you never hear from him, that just means he didn't call." This is internet dating in the 21st century; people are a lot less likely to make commitments, when there is still a supply of fish nearby that haven't been checked out yet. Learn to appreciate the fact that its acceptable for you to the same thing. When you find your enthusiasm in a relationship waning, but would prefer not having to explain, just go "poof." Clean cuts heal the fastest and with the least scarring.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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non-drinker/smoker date Posted: 9/9/2006 4:29:05 PM
I would go to the nonsmoking section of a full bar, where they have 50 different non-alcoholic choices of things to drink on hand (the mixers). They can also make any combination of things. I had a non-smoking/non-drinking date like this the other night, and it was great. You could also try juice bar, or any daytime outdoor activity.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Sweet guy, low income OR abusive guy, high income Posted: 9/9/2006 4:25:56 PM
I have noticed that guys w/o a lot of money actually tend to be nicer. I don't know if it is because different bankbooks reflect different value systems (ie; some of the highest paying jobs a re morally repugnant) or because guys with money can get away with being abusive- there will always be someone needy enough to put up with it. Maybe it is a little of both. But don't ask me "which one" I would go with. There are plenty of fish in the sea!

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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if women think men are dogs Posted: 9/9/2006 4:20:16 PM
Not all are men are dogs, but some are. Obviously, some women are dogs, too. Maybe women who aren't like you say should just deal with the dogs that come around by saying, "excuse me, but you seemed to have confused me for a dog."

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Losing loved ones and moving on (when) Posted: 9/9/2006 5:43:51 AM
The answer is right there hidden in the question. A loss like that is so utterly personal, you have to go through it on your own. Obviously, if it is uppermost in your mind, you are not ready to let them go. If you go out and find yourself compelled to talk about it on the first date, you are basically telling them that they will not be coming first in your life for who knows how long. Bringing someone else into your life at this point is not only NOT going to help you, but they'll feel powerless because they cannot take someone else's place. Stay single until it is a significant piece of your history, not an ongoing concern.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Drawbacks of Online Dating Services Posted: 9/7/2006 2:32:36 PM
(Duplicated by mistake)

matisse808

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Drawbacks of Online Dating Services Posted: 9/7/2006 2:32:27 PM
Using internet dating sites is a completely different thing than meeting people in real life. Here, we have to do without most of the information we take for granted in real life- we can't see them move, catch a flitatious glance, smell them, hear them, or see how they interact with others. If we aren't picky here, we could spend our whole lives dating sorting out the wheat from the chaff. What we need to do is keep ADAPTING to THIS REALITY and learn to write better profiles and better emails that actually convey the information and meaning we need (to know what we're doing).

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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If You could choose to be a famous sex symbol of the opposite gender you are, Who would you be ? Posted: 9/7/2006 2:18:16 PM
Ewan McGregor, not only for looks, but also for his intelligence and complexity.

matisse808

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Has the Whole Relationship Been a Lie?? Posted: 9/7/2006 2:15:34 PM
You can do better than this guy- who needs this kind of drama? Drop him. Give him the chance to try to win you back, and see if he can convince you to trust him. Meanwhile, take care of yourself and do not lower your standards!

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Living at home how much of a big deal is it in dating? Posted: 8/6/2006 5:54:59 AM
I don't think a person's living at home would automatically turn me off. If he had relationships with his parents that were adult-adult, was not treated like a child and made to obey "rules," or required to have familial "approval" of his dates, why not? It shows that he knows how to function as part of a family group, and has parents that can be gotten along with (always a bonus!). I find men who get along with their parents and other family members to be attractive.

matisse808

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marrying a virgin Posted: 8/6/2006 5:40:34 AM
I can't answer your question because I would never ever marry someone I had not had sex with. The risk that I would be disappointed by sexual incompatibility for the rest of my life is just too great.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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not fighting to save your relationship/give up too easily Posted: 8/5/2006 8:06:21 PM
I think, if anything, most people don't "give up" easily enough. They don't know when to quit. Nobody should have to fight to stay in a relationship (even if it is just fighting to understand, or be understood- that is always tempting. You need to respect yourself enough to realize that when you are suffering too much, that is your soul is trying to tell you that person is not right for you. Move on.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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why are we attracted? Posted: 7/14/2006 11:08:26 PM
There are at least three factors that I know of. Some of it is chemistry; pheromones indicative of DNA least like our own has been shown to be more attractive to us, and this makes sense if the biological drive is to dive into the deep end of the gene pool. Timing and signals: women are most attractive when they are ovulating. Sociological studies shows that we are drawn to people that about as good looking as we are; 10's look for other 10's, 3's for other 3's, etc. I think they showed this by seeing who ended up with who, and the number values were objective, not subjective.

matisse808

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Can you handle the truth? Posted: 7/4/2006 4:59:21 AM
The truth, by definition, must be handled. But don't forget to get independent confirmation that it is, indeed, the truth, and not just some ***hole's opinion.

matisse808

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should one change in a relationship Posted: 7/4/2006 4:54:54 AM
1. Never go into a relationship having already identified something you wish they would change. 2. If you are already in a relationship, and discover something about your SO you wish was different, all you can do is make your opinion known, along with a GOOD REASON this trait is undesirable for them as well as for you. Then shut up, and leave it up to them to agree with you or NOT. It''s their life. 3. People who are always finding fault with their SO are just asking to be left.

matisse808

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Is separated single? Posted: 7/4/2006 4:50:26 AM
It depends on who you ask. The person who is separated will say "yes," but to anyone dating them, it is an escapable fact that the separated one is not yet completely available.

matisse808

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If your significant other was cheating, would you want to be told? Posted: 7/4/2006 4:48:07 AM
Definitely. There is nothing worse than going around without having all the information that pertains to me. And if these "others" who know are people who call themselves my friend, then they owe me the truth- to keep mum is a betrayal. This happened to me once, and the people I called "friends" who didn't tell me hurt me almost as much as the infidelity did.

matisse808

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What are some characteristics about men online that bother you? Posted: 7/4/2006 4:33:55 AM
Men who can't stop talking about me as if I were a "girls gone wild" video. This is especially true with men you haven't met ambushing you with an IM. We've just met, I've introduced myself, but they think I said my name is "babe," or "princess," or "beautiful," and go on and on about how hot and sexy I am. How rude for these men to think I'm going to fall for these cheap lines and start talking dirty with them! Disgusting!

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Is it possible to fall in love with someone you never met? Posted: 6/26/2006 7:53:38 PM
No, but it's possible to fall in love with the subconscious idea you've created of someone. Most people believe the lies they tell themselves quite readily.

matisse808

Joined: 6/1/2005

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Its better to have loved and lost than to never have loved Posted: 6/18/2006 6:30:39 AM
Lisa, Lisa, Lisa . . . To never have loved is a terrible terrible thing! Would you honestly prefer that person had never been in your life? Would you be willing to give up the memories? And, if you have never experienced the loss of having your love for someone systematically destroyed by their behavior . . . then you can't appreciate enough that being able to love is the biggest gift of all. It is far more important than being loved.

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