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Thread: How far will you go to get the attention of someone?
wiseleo
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How far will you go to get the attention of someone?
Posted:
2/25/2008 3:42:00 AM
I'd say hi. If it's at a club, I'll ask what kind of drink she'd like. Won't bother with flowers or any other indirect attempts to get noticed by her.
Getting my attention is simple. Figure out what my unlisted phone number is and call it. It's simpler than it sounds, and has guaranteed results. :)
wiseleo
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Men At The Bottom...Would You Take A Chance ?
Posted:
2/24/2008 6:30:48 PM
P.S. To give you some perspective - I drive a hot convertible sports car during the day. When I go clubbing late at night, I take the bus because of parking and police nightmares where I go. :)
Your luck will improve if you stop mentioning bus rides as if it's something contemptible. Put an environmental spin on it. :) Frankly, I am deeply offended by your attitude.
wiseleo
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Men At The Bottom...Would You Take A Chance ?
Posted:
2/24/2008 6:22:58 PM
I am going to avoid commenting on your profile because I don't have time.
AVOID ALL CAPS LIKE THE PLAGUE.
You are on the wrong site. Learn business networking, and personal success will happen quickly.
Find out where the people whom you want to pitch congregate. Find out where the industry mixers are and go to them. Become friends with them. Genuine friends, not just a person on their lists. Don't pitch them for a few months. An opportunity will present itself later. "Oh, by the way, I have this neat little script. Do you mind taking a glance at it?"
Create a pro-level profile on sites like LinkedIn, TalentHunter and whatever others are appropriate for your industry. The more people you know in your industry, the faster you'll make it.
That's how you sell deals.
Cars are cheap. Thanks for not adding to air pollution.
wiseleo
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wtf am i doing wrong?
Posted:
2/24/2008 4:57:17 PM
Last, and importantly you have NON-RELIGIOUS!! Long-term women don't want someone without a spiritual respect about them. You can put christian or other. Never atheist or non-religious. And last don't glorify drinking and partying... You can do it when you meet that person and learn their personality, but long term relationships are not built on drinking habits and partying. These are only pastimes.... Change it IMMEDIATELY.
I agree with you in general, but I dissent on these two points.
I've had several relationships where the women were non-religious. If he's in fact indifferent to imaginary friends, he should express it as he deems it to be appropriate. It may reduce the clicks, but I know that I'd frustrate a religious person, hence it's better to filter them out right away. In conclusion, if the poster is not a religious person, he should not pretend to be one.
In my personal observations, the more intelligent a person is, the less likely she is to have religious leanings. This particular person is a data analyst. Enough said.
The second point is again debatable.
We all seek people who are compatible with us. I don't drink, but I go to many parties that wind up with the "Who can give me a ride" situation. It's always amusing to observe the behavioral changes that transpire. The point is that if I were to meet someone who would claim she doesn't drink and does turn out to drink often, that would probably interfere with the relationship.
I think this profile is refreshingly honest. It can be expanded.
wiseleo
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Salsa dancing in and around Los angeles
Posted:
1/4/2008 12:38:09 AM
Go to Salsa Brava.
World class teachers. I learned quite a few routines and shines from them when they visited Bay Area and were still married.
There's no better choice in LA.
http://www.salsabravapro.com/
P.S. Joby is gorgeous ;-)
wiseleo
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very fast intimate encounter?
Posted:
12/31/2007 8:51:51 PM
Speaking as someone who has met women just for intimate fun (not what I was looking for on POF), it works much like modeling in general does:
You either have the look she wants, or you do not. It's really that simple. If you do, and you appear on her most active list with a clear picture, she'll probably contact you. They are so inundated with e-mail that doesn't match their requirements that they tend to look for their playmates on their own. You better believe me that they are very aggressive if they spot the right fish. I have seen my FWB's inboxes and they are packed with messages from all kinds of people.
You have to be comfortable kissing someone without genuine feelings. I like them as friends, but we are definitely not in love. If you think that's easy, it's actually not. The whole experience reminds me of acting. We act out each other's fantasies. It can get very kinky, and you should be prepared for it. Let's put it this way - do you think you could act in an adult video with other people in the room and under bright lights? If so, it might work for you.
You would have a reasonably better chance if you do not e-mail close-up pictures of parts of your body. They like to see a full body shot and a very clear face picture. If they wish to see a closeup, they'll ask for it. If you are comfortable with including a fine art kind of a nude photo then by all means include it, but they are inundated with close-ups. If you are that good looking (I am 7.6 on hotornot with plenty of 8-10 ratings as well as 1s, which is OK with me given that I haven't posted better pictures) and are serious about having fun online , getting some awesome pictures on TFP basis is pretty easy. I did my own photoshoot with good results, but getting it done professionally is much easier.
Lastly, girls who look like 10 tend to be exceedingly picky and desensitized to pick-up attempts. I love talking to women in "intimidator" class - they are so hot that no one dares to approach them in real life. It never hurts to try, but understand that it is a numbers game. If you like to spoil women, try a more focused site for high income individuals. They have a much better selection, for obvious reasons. There is a big difference between spoiling women and offering cash for services.
Same tips apply for non-IE hotties, by the way, except for nude images. :)
If you are an average Joe, you'll probably want to expand your criteria. :)
wiseleo
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Quality, NOT Quantity Wanted: What to Alter?
Posted:
12/31/2007 12:17:17 PM
OK...Guys?... Who wants his problem?!
Read any number of such posts made by highly attractive women (I seem to attract jerks and slobs). ;-)
I'd say treat every person who contacts you very nicely. I've been contacted by women in whom I had little interest, but I always talked to them anyway. Most will stop talking to you very quickly anyway.
However, you may want to mention whom you are actually seeking. You have an ideal profile in terms of disclosure, yet you have no preferences set. That means you are fair game to any woman within 75 miles from you. You achieved what most guys dream of - too much mail. Now you just have to define further whom you seek. Don't judge them by their profiles. Some of them might be more intelligent/better looking than their profiles reflect. The vast majority of people can't express themselves, never mind doing so in writing. You are probably not looking for that person, but that's implied filtering. So take eye candy compliments mail as just that, compliments.
You describe her as sweet, genuine, and like-minded. That's very generic and invites mail from everyone. In my opinion, that is the best way to go.
When I described the woman I was seeking I used specific situations with which she should be comfortable. Some of them were used as filters. I am not compatible with a woman who doesn't like to be in a convertible sports car going through corners at a high rate of speed through a windy road, for example. You'd be surprised how many of them don't like it. Then I openly disclosed that I have a wild side to me that most parents will frown upon. Had I not used my filters, I'd receive a lot more mail. :) All the mail I did receive was from the kind of women I would date, except for a few that ignored them anyway. The one for whom everything I wrote was a 100% match didn't hesitate one bit. You will take a risk of alienating a potential perfect mate if you start implementing filters. I did it because I knew precisely whom I was seeking.
This reminds me a T-Mobile USA commercial. This family got a shared cell phone plan. Each family member has the option of adding up to 5 friends to a special list, at which point calls to them are free. It's called MyFaves. In this commercial, the family asks a hot-looking older sister "Who are your fave five?". She then lists five of her hottest friends. Then they ask her younger brother "Who are your fave five?" He lists the same friends. The sister screams "Mom, do something!". And her father says "Maybe you should have uglier friends."
Your profile can be improved further, but you have a dedicated website anyway and the first date section,which is heart-meltingly good, should get them hooked enough to look there, so that doesn't really matter.
I'd say enjoy having this problem and don't change a thing!
wiseleo
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last 5 forum posts
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12/31/2007 11:37:41 AM
Haha... you bet!!!
That's the curse of having a great profile - it invites digging into your past.
Not just last 5... more like everything that person has posted. Additionally, I'd run a google search on her screen name and also check on myspace and other social networks if she really got me interested.
Few people realize that every post you make is linked to your profile. Profile review requests, in particular, are the most revealing of all. You can use this to your advantage if you wish to highlight character traits by selectively posting in appropriate threads. Most people, however, do not. That's why posts in Sex and Dating or Broken Hearts, for example, are not necessarily the best idea.
My current catch researched me for quite a few hours by her own admission. In fact, I expect she'll mention this post tonight. :)
wiseleo
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A ProfileThat Might Have Went Wrong
Posted:
12/31/2007 7:57:31 AM
I like your profile.
Reading between the lines it is very funny. :) Unfortunately, women skim first, read in-depth later. Give them something to skim much easier and some eye candy on which to click from the ocean of search results.
Now you just need to add lots of white space between your paragraphs. And correct silly things such as "your" instead of "you're".
As you can see, this post is easy to read because of all the white space around my paragraphs. You will notice that my last paragraph is more difficult to read.
One more thing, your main picture, though in fact it is very good when viewed as a full size image, looks invisible in the ocean of fish when viewed as a thumbnail. Get Google Picasa and crop it. You want a 300x299 square for optimal POF appeal. I'd crop just the portion of it with you and a tiny bit of ocean in the background. For extra bonus, add a picture border in some bright color. ;-) Show us the full-size version of that picture as a different picture.
Someone that enjoys walking on the beach, holding hands and sitting on the
sand watching the sun fade into the waves, looking into your eyes and watching your hair blow into the last sun rays of the day and that one endless kiss that's hard to pull away from your lips.
***Hope that part wasn't too boring.*** - this sounds good. Perhaps make part of it bold. I think either the actual sentence, or the hint would work fine.
Overall, the profile needs grammar correction and a few other things as above. Should catch you a nice little shark.
wiseleo
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tired of getting no responses
Posted:
12/30/2007 2:48:32 PM
Here is why:
1. Picture - sunglasses are not good. Pictures #2 and #7 are the same. #7 should be deleted due to being overly bright. I'd crop your picture #2 and use that as your main smile. Picture #4 is too busy and should be deleted. Picture #6 is good, but should be cropped. It's a bit overexposed, however. Picture #3 is plainly bad. You have good ratings from your target audience, but that's misleading because they only see a thumbnail when browsing the site and looking for a match.
2. Interests - don't use / as your delimiter. This site prefers comma delimited entries, which it then parses into a readable matrix of interests.
3. You use commas as periods, which makes it hard to read. That also makes me doubt your claim of using good grammar.
There is nothing unique about your profile. I prefer badly written unique profiles to highly generic information-free profiles. I can easily rewrite a unique profile, but I can't do it with a generic profile. In your case, I can't infer enough about you to write you something good.
Here is all I can tell about you so far.
"Hi, I am a physically fit sensual Italian male. I seek invigorating conversation with a female companion. I'd like to make you happy in everything from A to Z."
That's it! Do you think that is enough to attract someone's attention?
"A belly laugh a day is a must" would make for a much better headline for you, if that is a true description of your personality. I wouldn't bury that in your First Date section. Hence, your new headline would be "A belly laugh a day is a must! Do you agree?"
Your first date section reads to me "We'll go to my favorite coffee house and get to know each other better. Afterwards, we'll probably have a dinner. As long as both of us are laughing, does it really matter?"
In order for me to help you, I need to know what makes you unique.
For example, you mention bowling. Tell us about your bowling experience.
You mention physically fit, so tell us how you stay in shape. You mention sensual, so describe how that is relevant.
The more we know about you, the easier it is to attract someone with similar interests. As of right now, your bad spelling, terrible grammar, and rants do not turn on women. :)
Post an update in this thread. :)
wiseleo
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Would like a look :)
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12/25/2007 5:07:31 PM
Hello, Jereme.
Picture - it shows your environment. Good overall, but I'd crop it. There is nothing wrong with cropping a picture and using it as main, and then using same picture cropped differently as an extra one to depict your interests. I see heavy JPEG artifacting in it, but such is POF... Play with the crop tool Picasa and give us something that captures our attention. Picasa is free. We need a 300x299 or at least a 200x199 crop of your face. Face it, you are competing with a lot of people for her attention. A non-distorted clear picture will make your profile far likely to be read. The second picture was taken while you were not in a happy mood and should be deleted. Anything negative does not belong in a marketing document such as your profile.
Headline - The MiXeD case is a teenage tactic. It doesn't look good, ever. I know one particularly hot girl who can get away with it because she can get away with having "lorem ipsum" as her profile and still get a ton of mail. However, and there's no other way to describe it, she's extremely dumb.
You are 21. We assume that you are mature. That statement was questionably acceptable when you were 15, but has no meaning when you are 21.
Other preferences:
You want her to be between 21 and 25? What's wrong with 18-yr old hotties? :) I'd add an upper age cut-off, and call it a day.
Remember this - we, the nerds, own the Internet, so start acting like it. You may not have a chance asking her out at a social event, but you certainly can online. :)
OK, and now for a line-by-line edit. I don't have much to go on. Your writing style is OK, so we just need to work on adding information. The key in marketing is to differentiate yourself from competition. The net is full of generic shy guys with bad pictures. You want to stand out from the crowd to have a swimming chance in this ocean of sharks.
For example, I'll go in detail about sci-fi. Do you like Stargate SG-1? Is Quantum Leap your favorite? By cartoons do you mean Adult Swim or Sponge Bob? If the person to whom you are writing should like this stuff, write about it. Oh, and also consider adding something obscure, like... Lexx ;-), MST3K, or Tripping the Rift. That would bring a smile to someone's face like an inside joke would.
You list beach as your interest. Why? What video games do you play? What concerts did you go to? What sports, besides, hockey, do you play or watch? If you are a hockey player, you should tell us about it. Which video games do you play?
Hello, my name is Jereme and I'm 21 yrs old.
{DELETE Now that I've gotten that out of the way, here's a little bit about me.}
I will admit flat out that I'm a shy and at times quiet guy with a little touch of the nerd thrown in.
{DELETE I'm very mature for my age as }
I value my family as being most important to me along with my friends. I'm also a nice, caring individual who always seems to know the right things to say at the right time. I'm very opinionated as I always like to express my feelings about something whether its in a debate, or just a well-rounded conversation depending on the topic we're discussing.
Remember that little touch of nerd I mentioned earlier? Well, most of my interests gravitate towards being into the sci-fi scene in terms of tv shows, movies...etc. I still watch some cartoons, but hey, who doesn't? We all like to have a sense of nostalgia
{SPELLING corrected}
once in a while.
{DELETE I'm currently trying to finish school at a local community college I'm attending, while also working part-time at a local library to save money. - we don't care about financials unless you are either flat broke or a millionaire, and you wouldn't disclose either}
I currently work part-time at a local library while attending
{INSERT college name}
as a
{INSERT major name}
major.
Your first date idea is a bit bland, but it's better than having none.
Add some more information, and then we can spice it up. Right now I don't know enough about you to write you a catchy headline.
Happy fishing!
wiseleo
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profile reviews asked
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12/25/2007 4:17:15 AM
Tell us whom you are looking for. :)
That picture does not work. The headline "Redneck woman" does not work.
You need to write something a lot more feminine if you want to get good response. Right now your profile is generic.
I don't click generic profiles.
How about something like this? It's a bit overly alluring, but might work. It's better to have too much e-mail, including from guys you wish to attract, that having e-mail just from sleazebags who e-mail everyone.
As for picture, we want to see your smile. That hat definitely doesn't work.
Headline: Stop! Or I'll shoot!
Hi sexy, Femme Fatale here. Do you dare to resist?
Woke up this morning,
Got myself a gun... - did this already.
Cast my fishing line into the ocean,
Got myself a guy... - perhaps you?
My days are filled with danger and excitement. That leads to spontaneity.
My identity is secret. It is worth the effort to attempt to discover it. Only those eligible for my inner circle may discover my true wild at heart personality. The rest will be professionally fooled.
My missions involve me being outdoors, traveling, and...sometimes...even cuddling.
In my downtime I enjoy music. To stay in perfect shape, sports are my game.
And as for you, can you see your life with someone like me? I'd love to meet you, today.
Hey! I didn't say you can go. You've read this far. Click on "Contact spudsmakenzie" now!
First date:
Ssssssssh... these walls have ears! Come closer, I'll whisper it to you.
wiseleo
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The Pay Dating Sites are a ripoff
Posted:
12/20/2007 5:25:36 AM
My story with online dating where I've had luck. I define success as meeting with someone in-person, whether or not a relationship ensues:
Pre-1998 - informal stuff, internet dating either non-existent of in its infancy met my first love that way
1999-2001 or so Yahoo! personals - wrote a custom search string to weed out fake profiles
1999-2001 or so FriendFinder - before it went to hell
1999-2001 or so Socialnet - before it got acquired by americansingles
1999-2001 or so match.com - met someone extremely hot from there and we are still friends
2000-2001 or so aff - believe it or not, it is possible to find a real girl on that site, but it takes easily 1000x times the effort on any other site. It is worth it because she's guaranteed to be as twisted-minded as me.
2007
Hotornot - yep, I am hot enough to fish on that site and have a 5-star membership...Don't try that at home if you don't know how to put a good picture up
AFF - always a hyper-challenge, always rewarding, LOTS of fakes. I have a complimentary gold membership for winning the site's video contest.
POF - yep, since December 2007...Seems to be much like my experience in late 90s as far as quality goes, which is excellent.
I am an expert at writing profiles and interesting introductory letters, which is why online dating works for me. The only relationship that was incompatible for me was with a girl I've met offline. Had I seen her profile online, I would have passed on her and saved 5 years of my life.
eharmony matched me with a total of 7 people when I did a profile with them with very honest responses, for fun. Then again, I am not suited for that kind of a site due to my preferences. My profile is hidden to avoid false hopes for other people.
All in all, I would not call pay dating sites a rip-off. I've had success on all of them. It just takes an awful lot of work. :)
It's pointless to contact people who haven't logged on to the site in more than 2 weeks. Fishing from the active pool becomes far more restrictive.
Good luck, and happy fishing!
wiseleo
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Women who like to dance. Men who don't (or can't).
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12/18/2007 11:04:35 AM
Flowerforce wrote:
I dance Ballroom, Latin American and Argentine tango. (Tango by the way usually has more men than women dancing because it is so hot with very close physical contact.) I date men who can't or won't dance. My preference is to find a man who is willing to learn. But is not a deal breaker. ... . In my opinion if you can walk and count you can dance. It is only a man's own inhibitions and lack of self confidence that will get in the way of his learning to dance. There is no such thing as being completely unable to dance unless you are severely physically impaired. It is a great asset for a man to have. There are many places to learn to dance if you want to and many a relationship/romance/marriage has begun on the dance floor.
I will attest to how hot Argentine Tango in particular is. Your lower bodies are always intertwined and your upper bodies are in close contact as well while pushing away from each other. Try this with an unsuspecting girl and you'll probably get slapped, that's how close it gets. :)
Some of the moves I execute are extremely flashy (sweeps, pivots, pivot with a step through her feet...). That's one of the easiest ways to make a woman feel as is if she'd been swept off her feet, which is what all them secretly desire. ;-)
With the right partner, rest assured everyone else will stop and watch. :) It's quite amusing to do a ballroom dance to club music, such as to the ubiquitous "slow" song. All of a sudden all eyes are on you.
It is also an extremely easy dance, if you start with simple stuff. Tango, just like the Waltz and a few other dances is referred to as a "walking dance". If you can walk, you can dance. It's really that simple. Speed and flashiness comes with experience.
If I see a girl list dancing as one of her interests, I know that I'll at least have some fun on the weekend when I take her out regardless of what happens next.
So, to all those guys who say "I can't dance". I challenge you to go to a salsa club before the club is open for dancing. They usually have a one hour free class before the lights dim. First of all, you'll meet at least 10 women while the music is still quiet and you can still talk without shouting, and secondly you'll be surprised how easy it is to start with the basic foundation. After that, when the lights dim, you'll have a choice of 10 women with whom to be seen on the dance floor instead of trying to find one. The basic stuff is easy. Your partner will make it a lot more fun. Take it easy, get the hang of the rhythm, and you'll be saying "I love dancing" in no time.
I can teach anyone how to skate. It takes about two hours to go from being a complete newbie to saying "wow, skating backwards is actually not that hard!". I have a track record at doing this at our local dance skate area in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. Dancing is *much* easier.
Wouldn't you say your odds just went up? I'll see you on the dance floor. :)
wiseleo
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Nightclubs-What Am I Missing? - dancing...above all else
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12/18/2007 7:50:24 AM
I go there to dance. If I happen to find someone with whom to spend the night or more time, all the better.
There is a slight difference between the way I dance, and the way most other guys dance. I am on the dance floor the moment the lights go on, and typically the last one off. That translates to about 5 hours of non-stop dance if a 9-2 timeframe is observed. I go to some clubs earlier because of salsa dance lessons and other similar things. By the way, taking a salsa lesson before the club hours begin gives you a great opportunity to get to know the girls who are taking the class so an hour later you are no longer a stranger but someone with whom she'd agree to practice a few new steps.
I am perfectly content dancing by myself. In fact, most nights I do just that. I actually intimidate some girls and most can't keep up anyway. Oh, and if the club has a stage or a cage, I am either on it, or in it. If they don't let me, I typically do not come back. The view of the dance floor is much better when you are above it. I can spot someone I like from the stage much easier. I can also look at her, see if she's with someone, and possibly see if she is interested. I actually have a VIP pass to one of the hottest nightclubs in my area. Usually, it's just girls who have them.
Since you mentioned metalheads, I happily danced through an entire Metallica concert. I will admit that dancing in-beat to "Fuel" is a very challenging task! Some day I'll measure its BPM, but it's pretty high. I turned a mosh-pit into a dance-off for half an hour, for example. I also happily danced through a Static-X performance and numerous other events.
If you want to meet some like-minded girls, go to a concert where there are no assigned seats. It's far easier than the nightclubs and the music is not as loud. There is a trick to concerts with assigned seatings as well. I've played some russian roulette with extra tickets. I'd walk down the street just before a show and offer a free ticket to some hottie. I typically have good seats. :)
There was one nightclub I went to once, the ratio of girls to guys was literally 10:1. We are talking about the floor really crawling with girls, some of whom were good looking. The music sucked, the stage was barely elevated from the floor by about a foot maybe. I wasn't at a lesbian night either. :) I was very impressed with my options. It's about 40 miles from my house, but it's a place where I'd like to go back to once in a while. Most other clubs are 20-30 miles away anyway, so I might as well go back to where there is more fish.
There are some major drawbacks to nightclubs.
1. Drinking. I never drink while I dance because alcohol dehydrates and I like to drive to clubs. I also need to be in control of all my moves and if I were to drink, I would easily injure myself. I would never drink and drive. Alcohol translates into spills on the dance floor. I've fallen down far too many times.
2. Too many guys. I usually don't like to cramp someone's style.
3. The music is far too loud. It's impossible to talk. I know how to talk to a girl, but I have to give it to the players - being able to make the girl laugh in a nightclub by shouting in her ear is a hard skill. Yes, I did say shouting instead of whispering. I observed one such guy talking to a girl in whom I had slight interest (we danced most of the night) last weekend. He was a total master. I complimented him on it.
4. Guys fail to realize that not every girl is there to be picked up. That gets to be annoying. Then if I go to ask her just to dance, I'll get "No" because she assumes that's why I am asking her.
5. You can't show who you are. I am a very smart person, for example, but I can't get that across when I have to shout every word. At least not very easily. In the dark you can't tell a CEO from a construction worker, which can be considered as a plus from another perspective.
6. You don't know anything about the stranger. She could be a smoker, for example.
I will tell you that if a girl actually keeps up with me most of the night, we typically go home together. It doesn't happen too often, but we tend to be double exhausted. :) It's still much easier than online dating. But online dating lets me find someone who is really compatible with me. I've been doing it for a while, one girl at a time.
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What do I need to change?
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12/17/2007 1:56:09 AM
Good profile.
Nice to see another racer of shifter karts. :) The right one will get what you mean...
If you want to know more just send a message. - boring.
"Are you ready to go racing next weekend?!" - better. Face it, you'll want her at the races.
A color-corrected picture would work better. It's too yellow as is, so it doesn't jump out at her as it should.
Your heavy religious slant (your order of keywords starts with "jesus, god, racing, cars") might turn some off. I never e-mail girls with obvious religious messages, but that's me.
Good luck, it'll be a tough match but they can happen. I drive a sports car and we have several girls who are drivers of modified vehicles come out to our car meets and our forum moderator is a female too. :)
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What do YOU think of my profile?
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12/17/2007 1:46:25 AM
I think it's good enough.
*If I msg you, it doesn't necessarily mean I want to date you ... I might just like something I saw in your profile ... :) - this I would delete.
"haha" is a bit distracting, but if you laugh a lot in real life, might as well keep it. I'd use emoticons, personally.
The pictures are OK. You may want to use a 300x299 square as your main profile pic to avoid distortion.
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12/16/2007 3:06:32 AM
Nice picture.
Add paragraphs. Should be enough to catch a juicy fish. :)
Adventurous type - describe one.
Overall, good. Excellent picture. I'd add more detail. :)
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My profile..not so good?
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12/16/2007 2:56:24 AM
That picture is mean!
Other than that, your profile is straight to the point. There is nothing unique about you. You mention that you like to cook, for example.
Nothing in that profile will grab her attention. Please post your interests so we can help you create something a bit more unique. :)
Tell us a story of a spantaneous date...
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Need some feedback,I havent been getting messaged and i'd like to know y Need other advice aswell
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12/12/2007 9:59:18 PM
The Internet is a picky place.
After I cleaned up your profile for grammar, spelling, and other similar things, I am left with:
=== Begin cleaned up profile ===
"I am the girl on the right in my main profile picture.
I am 20 and looking to meet some new people in my area for friendship and possibly more... I want some guy friends who I can chill with and just have a good time. :D I like to have fun and I’d like to meet people who like to do the same... but I also love to just chill at home with friends.
I want to meet REAL people, who are friendly, and honest.
I love my friends to death. They are my rocks.
I love music of all kinds, but recently I am more into a lot of underground stuff like Jungle/DnB and happy hardcore. Besides that, I love techno, dance, rock, and pop, and other genres.
I'm currently working as a cook and getting my last high school credit to graduate. Then, I'm planning to go to school for cooking and possibly do an apprenticeship to become a chef. :D
I'm a nerd at heart. I love to read and am in love with Harry Potter.
I'm a movie fanatic too. I love anything from horror to comedy. For example: “Super Bad”, “Knocked Up”, “40 Year Old Virgin”, “Anything With Adam Sandler”, “Pretty In Pink”, “Sixteen Candles”, “Breakfast Club”, “10 Things I Hate About You”, “Dazed And Confused”, “Star Wars”, “Girl Next Door”, “The Matrix”, and much more.
I'm currently trying to build a collection of all the best movies, but there are so damn many!"
=== End cleaned up profile ===
Notice that I added paragraphs, capitalized movie titles, and so forth. It's very difficult to read lots of text without paragraphs. You tend to use "n" instead of "and". That distracts your readers.
I didn't clean it up to the point of losing your personal style, as that will convey a wrong impression.
You should also be aware that any forum postings you make are automatically linked to your profile. So now that you mentioned potential boyfriend issues, that is likely to be public information.
My honest impression so far is that there is nothing unique about you. The pictures are not flattering. You can take better ones.
It is obvious that you love to cook. I am going to surmise that you like to cook crabs. :)
What else do you like? Why do your friends choose to be your friends? Ask your friends to describe you.
I know what Happy Hardcore and Jungle beats sound like, but most people do not. In fact, if you can dance in-beat to that pace of music (180BPM and up), that's very impressive.
Here are the pictures that you might want on your profile:
1. Smiling, but not with a forced smile. Pictures with a forced smile tend to look bad. Size 300x299.
2. Out at a club having fun, but not zoomed in. This should be a vertical picture.
3. Smiling with your natural smile with tantalizing dishes on a platter. Again, not zoomed in. This can be a horizontal picture.
Your last group shot looks OK and natural. There's no way to salvage all others, so they should be deleted. If the original group image is big enough, such as more than 2 megapixels, you could crop a smile out of it. Google Picasa makes it easy.
You should have the pictures taken by someone who knows what she's doing.
Any non-main picture can be of any size, but they'll get scaled down to about 300 pixels in width. For that reason, vertical images can be a better option. The main picture should be of dimension specified in point 1 to avoid image distortion in thumbnail view.
There is no first date? That suggests lack of imagination.
I don't see anything unique enough to create you a catchy headline.
Good luck!
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No one???
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12/12/2007 3:12:38 AM
It's good. :)
I see no need for changes.
Happy fishing!
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please help me and my profile
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12/11/2007 5:08:42 AM
I'll tell you why. You are too hot.
Some girls I'd add my favorites list even though I don't see her as a match just because they are very nice looking. I added you for that reason, for example, since I doubt we'll meet unless you fly by US sometime. Although, Caribbean cruises are pretty cheap these days and I'd been meaning to go. :)
Someone as cute and pretty as you are can induce shyness in everyone but a very hardened player. You also look very young. Some would probably guess you are not even 18. If I were local, I would actually probably add you to my faves list and dedicate some time to write you a good letter, because presumably you receive a lot of them and some extra creativity would be in order for it to be read. Just writing a catchy enough headline takes quite a bit of time. If you were local, I'd probably take you out in a split second.
Bear in mind that you are quite tall, especially if you put on your heels, and have what many would consider a model's look. I can't see the rest of you and I suspect you were being modest in your profile, but your face is cover-worthy. That can be very intimidating. They may think you are unapproachable and out of their league. You may want to address that concern if height is not an issue for you.
Would I change your profile? I doubt it. Perhaps remove that overexposed picture that makes your face overly white and add some reassurances that you welcome all contact.
Actually, let me switch back to rational mode now.
"I think it's funny how many people feel the need to put "hot", "sexy" and "attractive" in their profile name. haha. It's like I can see your picture, no need to put words like in your name. I'm still trying to decide if it's an arrogance thing or people are just insecure about themselves and need people to think that when they see their picture. Either way it's rather amusing and makes me laugh. :D "
- that right there is quite intimidating. They think "Will she laugh at me when we meet?".
So there you go. Honest enough without crossing the line? :)
Now, please excuse me while I go back to being smitten.
Happy fishing!
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Tuning Profile for 2008
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12/10/2007 11:04:18 PM
I think that profile is downright excellent. I am not sure I'd mention that smokes occasionally tidbit, but that's about it.
Pictures help to add credibility to a profile, especially when they
portray the interests, hobbies and lifestyle of the person.
People aren't invisible in everyday life, why be invisible here - tell me.
- this blurb is best reserved for private communications.
Good luck. You've demonstrated that you know how to have fun. :)
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12/10/2007 10:41:58 PM
Welcome to the cutting room floor.
Here we go...
Headline - every kiss has a meaning? Boring, potentially controlling and clingy.
Your other two pictures are much better. Pink sun shades? That'll work...in San Francisco. The picture in grey suit is what I'd use.
You are a photographer, for crying loud, you should be able to setup a decent shot. No excuses.
"First off I must insist on this....please do not contact me or add me as a favorite if you do not have a visible photo, this is a dating site and we are all here for the same reasons....we want to see you!.......And just a small tip for some of the women out there....love you all but gotta say this to you......Think of the bait you are using ie your pictures. If you don't want the guys that are just looking to pick up women, then don't use pics that reveal most of your boobs, meaning the underwear shots. Guys are visual and they will take a lead from the message that is being sent to them, whether it is your intention or not...you will get the slugs. Funny how the guys are not taking pics of their crotch and posting it up there thinking ...boy that will get me the type of girl I want.
So remember....post what you want, but don't complain about what you get due to it.....the first time you meet someone are you going to be walking around with your top mostly un-buttoned or always leaning forward squeezing you buds together.....I don't think so......and when you are finished teasing with the boob pics....what's left? Perhaps I am just old fashioned and like myself that way, but either way......Good Luck fishing!
And now back to our regularly scheduled program."
- DELETE that whole mess.
"
{DELETE I am fairly easy going. I am not into head games of any sort.}
I have been told that I wear my heart on my sleeve, but that's just who I am. If you say it, mean it. I hate to be kept guessing but some suspense is nice.
{DELETE I do not like to go to bed angry, so I would rather resolve a disagreement before then}
."
"
{DELETE How do you describe someone that you have never met. As long as you do not try to be controlling...all things can be worked out. If you can laugh when it is funny, and cry when it is sad then you are only showing the real you.}
She should be passionate, caring and not be afraid to communicate. Enjoy some time together holding and touching, as physical contact is very important in a relationship. {
DELETE (and what the heck is the meaning of this?) She knows the difference between should I or shouldn't I.}
She must definitely enjoy a motorbike ride! "
"In the spare time I have, I love going for rides on my motorbike and bringing along one of my cameras, never know what you will see. It would be great to have someone come along. My photography is fairly important to me, it allows me to let others see some of life through my eyes..."
"you can go to this link to see just a small bit just copy and paste the link to a new window."
- DELETE. Otherwise your profile will be deleted.
Some of the work I do involves my photography and video work, but that is not all I do.
"To reach me use ................. MSN as well."
- DELETE. No contact info. You'll get deleted if you insist.
I have no patience for those who choose to violate rules of a free site.
Get rid of that cancer ribbon. I appreciate what you went through, but it's in the past. We don't need to know.
My overall opinion is that you are not ready to meet a woman. You may want to, but you are still shaken up. Remove all contact restrictions whether expressed or implied and open yourself up. Not everyone posts pictures on the Internet.
Heck, you are on 7 favorites lists with that profile? Have you contacted them?
Your psychological profile is completely not in tune with your profile.
Let's try something more fun and flirty.
=====
"
Take a scenic ride with your Guardian Angel
" might work for your headline.
For your opening line, perhaps "
It's a bright and sunny day. The temperature is 75F and you climb on my motorcycle.
"
You hug me tightly and I enjoy the flow of wind in your hair. I notice how spectacularly it shines in the bright sunlight. We stop at a scenic overlook nearby and I take a few snapshots of you with a picturesque backdrop. We go to a mountain stream where I give you a demonstration of what fly fishing is all about. Remember, we can only eat what we catch. We catch a medium sized trout. It's laying there glistening in the sunlight.
I don't have my guitar here with me, unfortunately, but I do have a Shorelines CD playing over my bike's speakers. The sound of Flamenco guitar envelopes you. And you can smell the trout cooking...
For your ending, perhaps "
Your dinner is getting cold, so click that "Contact" button already.
"
==== End Profile ====
==== First Date ====
Didn't we just have it? :)
==== End First Date ====
Hmmm this story not a bad idea for one of my dates, now that I think about it... The question is whether you can pull this off! LOL
Happy fishing!
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12/10/2007 5:14:28 PM
I like it.
The pictures are good.
If there are any changes, they are too minor.
I'd suggest using
bold
to add some finishing touches on your subheadings.
You mention you always drink on the weekends. You need to offset that with some clarification. Perhaps "But always in moderation, Captain's orders". You don't want to spoil the overall impression of your profile with the suspicion "What if he's an abusive alcoholic?!"?. After all, you appear to be quite strong and can easily hurt someone. So figure out a way how to minimize such thoughts.
That's about it.
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profile reviews pls!!! preferably girls who are my type: 'tomboy' read profile to find that out! :P
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12/10/2007 1:30:28 PM
Considering that you are exactly my type, I might as well help explain why you are attractive to me. :)
Unfortunately you love women, but such is life... :)
If you were in my area, I'd definitely send you an e-mail and at least offer to take some pictures.
First of all, your main picture appears to have been taken either with a wide angle lens or self-taken from a stretched arm. It gets distorted that way and doesn't reflect the true you, not to mention the overexposure from flash that is too close. I have to mentally scale it back. I love your exact type of face, so I'd imagine your dates are pleasantly surprised when they see you. However, currently it takes too much work to visualize an 8x10 of you.
How to fix it? Your last picture has your normal face in it without distortion. I know that you get a lot of looks when you are out. For someone who claims to love modeling as an interest, and you are potentially at that level, your best bet is a pro-level photoshoot. With your height and your face, you should be scoring 10 across the board (if I get 10s, it should be a piece of cake for you) and deserve nothing less. It's pretty easy to get quality pictures at no charge and many photographers would love to have you for a portfolio.
Just don't do a private photoshoot on a secluded uninhabited island, for your safety.
Now let's look at the text of your profile. We have some issues here.
First, do include body type. I search for thin/athletic/average and that's it. If you say "Prefer not to say", you don't show up in those results. I'd bet you the majority does the same.
Frankly, you won't need any text. The text you have now, however, does not make much sense. It's a lot of random stuff. Secondly, you need to capitalize your sentences and change case on I's from small to capital.
""confidence is a must, happyness is a plus, edgyness is a rush, edges i like em rough.
intoxicate me, i'm a lush, stop your makin me blush, people are lookin at us!" - on my radar" - I can tell those are rhymes. I can't tell if that is a quote from somewhere or something you wrote and the purpose of it.
Microsoft Word has a nifty feature that fixes sentence case, changes i to I etc. So I cleaned up yours a bit, and now we'll start cutting things up.
"First thing you need to know; I’m a princess. ^-^" - not catchy enough. Delete until you come up with something more catchy
Add: "Easiest way to describe me:"
"confidence is a must, happiness is a plus, edginess is a rush, edges I like 'em rough.
Intoxicate me, I’m a lush, stop your making me blush, people are looking at us!" - on my radar " - I like this, but it needs to be put in context.
The things I really like are:
Water, music, makeup, fashion, hair accessories, sunglasses, purses, comfy big sweaters, shoes. Britney and Janet are two of my main idols.
"Something I learn is that the differences in people are what make the world such a beautiful place." - fluffy, delete.
"I learned I’m a really wonderful person, and more beautiful than the world. :d so I expect the best for myself, n to be treated very well!!!" - self-centered, delete.
"I'm a princess. " - let's be more original, delete.
"Magic good connections are amazing. Being comfortable is important to me and so is finding cozy atmosphere with good feng shui." - I can't make sense of "Magic good connections. What are you trying to say? Will keep as is, but it ideally needs to be rewritten.
"I love to just relax, curl up and sleep. When I get that luxury, I cling to it, and sleep. Or cuddle if someone special is around. ^-^" - this indicates time management issues. I would delete it.
"Chilling is real fun. Meeting new people is great. New things to try are sometimes good too, as long as it's not insane! I'm up for almost anything, as long as it is vegetarian friendly. : )" - fixed run-on sentences
"I like fun things. I never like being bored, or unhappy." - fixed run-on sentences.
"I love to party and meeting new friends!" - combined. Less fluffy.
"Talking is great, at a cool coffee shop, at home, at a friend’s, at a park, picnics are cute, and....surprise me! :p" - belongs in first date section
^.^
"I love to be held.
Cuddling is fun.
Holding hands is too. ^.^" - removed extra whitespace.
As far as relationships go:
"I’m looking for someone who will take things slow with me..." - artificial time limitations are not attractive and smack of insecurity, delete
"In fact; those who don't take things slow will find they get 86'd out of my life just like that. Poof!" - delete.
"I love new friends as well! Even if that's all that happens. : d" - delete, redundant.
"friends are fun, and the most important in life! Never can one have too many friends. ^.^" - delete, redundant.
I am extremely random.
"I like parties and stuff. I love gatherings and meeting new people, even though I’m shy at first, and I love cool people. Drinking at parties/clubs is good stuff, dancing once I have a few drinks is good, as long as I’m having fun, it's all good. : )" - corrected, I wouldn't use the word stuff, but I don't want this to not sound like you.
"I’m looking for friendship, possibly that can grow to a relationship, so if you’re looking to get 'intimate encounter' then don't message me!" - keeping it as is. In your case you'll get a ton of mail once this profile is fixed.
"Things attractive to me:
People with confidence who say what is on their mind with an aggressive, kind of dominant like in personality. I like them to be possessive (to an extent!). Tomboy type personality really attracts me! A strong person is awesome, mentally as well as physically, and how nice and sweet someone is...
Stuff like that I think is cute, and I notice peoples little habits, often finding that really cute and honest as it's something they can't hide, even if it's their wandering eyes. :p" - rewrote, too many changes to itemize.
"I am going to do my 1 2 step now. " - corrected, quote from a song.
Your first date section is fine. It just needs its capitalization fixed. I'll just paste it below.
In summary, this is still a draft. Here is a cut and paste version.
Figure out what you really want to say and in which order, and we can come up with a more refined version.
This was difficult. Enjoy :)
=== Begin profile ===
Here is the easiest way to describe me:
"Confidence is a must, happiness is a plus, edginess is a rush, edges I like 'em rough.
Intoxicate me, I’m a lush, stop your making me blush, people are looking at us!" - On my radar
The things I really like are:
Water, music, makeup, fashion, hair accessories, sunglasses, purses, comfy big sweaters, shoes. Britney and Janet are two of my main idols.
Magic good connections are amazing. Being comfortable is important to me and so is finding cozy atmosphere with good feng shui.
Chilling is real fun. Meeting new people is great. New things to try are sometimes good too, as long as it's not insane! I'm up for almost anything, as long as it is vegetarian friendly. : )
I like fun things. I never like being bored, or unhappy.
I love to party and meeting new friends!
I love to be held. Cuddling is fun. Holding hands is too. ^.^
I am extremely random.
I like parties and stuff. I love gatherings and meeting new people, even though I’m shy at first, and I love cool people. Drinking at parties/clubs is good stuff, dancing once I have a few drinks is good, as long as I’m having fun, it's all good. : )
I am attracted to:
People with confidence who say what is on their mind with an aggressive, kind of dominant like in personality. I like them to be possessive (to an extent!). The tomboy type personality really attracts me! A strong person is awesome, mentally as well as physically, and how nice and sweet someone is...
Stuff like that I think is cute, and I notice peoples little habits, often finding that really cute and honest as it's something they can't hide, even if it's their wandering eyes. :p
I am going to do my 1 2 step now.
I am flattered by your compliments, but I’m looking for friendship first and possibly one that can grow to a relationship, so if you’re looking to just get an 'intimate encounter' then please don't message me!
=== End Profile ===
=== Begin First Date ===
Talking is great, at a cool coffee shop, at home, at a friend’s, at a park, picnics are cute, and...Surprise me! :p
Hopefully someone would make me smile...
Chase me if i ran away...
Hold me if i was cold...
Make me feel special...
A frappucino, or ice capp supreme would be lovely too!
=== End First Date ===
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Why don't tall men choose to date tall women?
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12/10/2007 6:46:45 AM
It's simple. As stated in profile, I have no height preference.
I will tell you that I had a lot of fun dating an asian girl who was 5'10 with gorgeous green eyes. Yep, they exist. Sleeping with someone who is the same height is also much easier. I dated a 5'11 girl (my height) and all of a sudden we didn't have to come up with extra creative ways to please each other. That was really refreshing.
However! I've also dated 5'2 and 5'3 girls. There was one absolutely stunning girl I dated (too bad she's married now...and not to me) who was 5'3 but wore 6" platforms. Wow could she stop the crowd in its tracks.
Never underestimate the power of high heels and platforms. On the other hand, a 5'11 girl wearing high heels commands attention, anywhere. :)
I won't have a problem dating an amazon woman if she happens to get caught in my net.
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Are there any guys out there who actually do what they say they're going to?
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12/10/2007 4:36:33 AM
What I do if someone who is not a match e-mails me.
I'll still open and reply to that e-mail as a matter of courtesy. After all, we all hate the dreaded "deleted unread". Then I will thank her for the compliments and for writing to me and ask a few questions.
If she replies, I'll reply to her questions. However, lastly in that e-mail I will say outright that I won't lead her on and that while it is possible that we are an ideal match, it is highly unlikely and offer to be friends if there are common interests.
If she agrees to be just friends, great. I love making friends. If not, there is plenty of other fish out there besides me and I am sure she'll find someone worth her time. :)
I prefer to not waste the other person's time if our relationship goals become incompatible.
And yep I call...if I have something to say. :)
I never say "I'll call you" without meaning it.
Leo
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Ok- So review me already...
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12/9/2007 8:47:44 PM
Not bad. :)
I'd kill the "I am unable to find a teaching job in MI, but I don't want to move away from my family. They are important to me and I am not willing to lose those relationships" - I am not anti-family, but why would you downgrade yourself with words like "unable to find a teaching job"? After you remove that line, the rest of it becomes redundant.
There are a few typos that a spellchecker will pick up.
I see that you like dogs. You may want to go into more detail on that.
Your current picture could be improved in a couple of ways. I don't think it portrays you well. The 11/17/07 picture in the grey/black stripes outfit is most playful. If you have a full-res picture of that, I'd crop it just to a 300x299 image of your smile and use that smile as your main. It's far more appealing. You can use Google Picasa, which is free, to learn how to crop. On the other hand, you have an average of 8.8 rating from men in your target age group and women love it. :) Have you considered dating women?
- just kidding...
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would like some input on my profile. . . what are some likes and dislikes?
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12/9/2007 7:46:15 PM
Agreed with lil about the princess thing. I wrote it as an example based on your previous headline. Now the headline has changed, so you need a new opening and a new closing statement. That means more work! Take note - everything must match, so if your opening and close are headline-specific, you'll need to change them. I wrote a silly bit about fishnets in my profile because eliciting a smile, even if it's to a corny joke, is better than having no response.
Your headline really should describe you and not her. "Tall swimmer at ease on the golf course" - something like that perhaps. POF doesn't give us enough space for an easy cool headline so it takes work. :( You want to highlight contrast. Contrast makes you stand out from the crowd.
Why particularly a swimmer? Swimmers tend to look hot and women know it. It creates a fantasy image of dripping water. That means more clicks. Don't you want to look hotter to them?
I separated my writing into paragraphs and so should you. :) If you hit enter, it won't submit the form. White space is a vital component of any sales letter. Don't kid yourself, that's exactly what you are writing.
The line about consulting time was my joke to you, not for your profile.
- I'd suggest deleting it as it is offensive. :)
Now our writing styles got mixed and it looks messy.
Fix your capitalization, grammar, paragraphs and so forth. I already did all that for you, so you might as well use my work.
Group picture does not work and doesn't show you anyway. Your previous one was better. Get Google Picasa and experiment with cropping. ONLY WORK WITH COPIES. The picture I use right now is from an otherwise boring shot that wouldn't be getting rated 10s as it is right now. You only need a 300x299 square, which is easily doable from a multi-megapixel generic picture.
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Bored...humour me and review my profile or let me honestly know what you think
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12/9/2007 7:14:54 PM
I can see the improvement :)
We still need to do a bit more work. And make no mistake, editing profiles for strangers is hard work.
"I can assure you it is the latter" would be more correct.
I like how you incorporated GH. :) It is a fun game. There is nothing quite like watching little kids headbanging to metal at Fry's where they have it on demo. The expressions on the faces of their parents are priceless!
"I value friendship first before a relationship, if you really enjoy the company of someone then the sooner you realize that it's not a race the better you will feel about which direction a relationship is headed and that this person will be there through thick and through thin with you" - run-on sentence. It should have a period before "If you really enjoy." I am not sure, but I think you also need a comma after "someone". That's a heavy sentence, but if that's what you want, so be it.
Your "first date" section needs help. It has run-on sentences and should be split into paragraphs.
Perhaps what you meant to say is this?
"Ah yes, first dates...The fabulous first impressions. The maker or breaker of the mighty second date.
I personally enjoy that first date. It's the perfect way to find out more about the person who you have been chatting with. The best part of a first date is the challenge of how you keep it interesting. I'm up for dinner, and anything active after that..."
I'd end it here and cut out the parts below.
"I like to make it as comfortable of an experience as possible for my date as well as myself, and that really comes down to chemistry and whether we have enough common interests to keep each other entertained all night." - and I'd probably just delete this as well.
"What do I mean by participate...well, don't you hate it when you are doing all the talking for example?" - delete. No need to hate.
"All in all, that first date sets the impression, how that day/night goes is what makes it. I can assure you though either way, you will have had fun." - we don't need an editorial on what is a first date.
wiseleo
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Please review me...
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12/9/2007 6:46:14 PM
Well, now it reads like you are a cheery human being with diverse interests. :)
The picture is good. A bit overexposed, but we are not all photo geeks. Although, Picasa from Google is free and can adjust pictures very quickly and painlessly. I am not sure why you have low scores. They may need to be reset or they may adjust over time.
Minor nitpick (nothing major anymore :) - change "I've given up the idea" to "I've decided not to be". Give up - bad. Making an informed decision to change your lifestyle - good, plus gives you an option to change back. Constant gigs can be hell on one's life.
Drop the hang out and activity partner restrictions. I look for friends and dance partners as well as lovers. Surely I am not unique in that. There is no point in having those restrictions. I'd drop them all.
Otherwise, good job. Night and day difference from your previous one. Now we just need some action pictures. :)
wiseleo
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would like some input on my profile. . . what are some likes and dislikes?
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12/9/2007 6:24:01 PM
First of all, your picture is wrong.
You are 6'1, with a good-looking face, and athletic. Do you realize just how much advantage you have over most other guys? Princesses love that look, so you are on the right track. But, you need to show that look. Your current picture is not conveying your advantages at all. Although you still got rated a 10 by one voter, which suggests that you will have success with any picture, you can do much better than that.
you can't seriously expect someone to
read that profile. No capitalization, fragmented sentences, no paragraphs. It's better to have too many paragraphs than none.
"well lets see, for those of you that dont know me, the name is david" - let's change that.
Perhaps, "Hi! My name is David. I am looking for you, my Princess."
". . ive lived here since i was 3 years old. . moved from chicago. . when i graduated high school i went to college in new jersey. . . i moved back to the beach about 3 years ago. ." - who cares? Delete.
"i guess u could say i started to miss the beach and the family i have here. . i have a younger brother which is in the marines right now, and two older sisters. . . one lives in chicago, and the other lives in the big city of loris lol . ." - who cares? It's your personal profile, we are not here to date your family. Delete.
"I have been working for a Nissan dealership here for 2 years. I love working on cars. {DELETE but im not sure it is the job for me}" - you got your ASE, a position with a franchised dealership, and want to downplay it as an ambiguous career like that? That's quite an accomplishment! I know what you did, but the girls typically do not.
"I enjoy helping people regardless of whether it is for profit or for just pure pleasure." - ah, so there is someone out there like me who charges friends for consulting time. :) Edited to make it sound better. Commas may be missing.
". . lately i guess you can say that i have felt in complete. . im missing something in my life and honestly i dont know what it is, but i wish i could find it . . for some odd reason i have been single for a couple years, and honestly its the pure lack of confidence in myself and i really dont know where it came from. . ." - We don't care why you are here. This screams "avoid me". Delete! Want more self-confidence? Go to a gay club. You'll be hit on all night long, guaranteed. It's a good experience if you want to find out what it's like for hot girls. I am not joking.
"Last year my new year resolution was to quit smoking cigs, and ill be damned i havent had a cig since dec. 30th of last year!!!!" - congratulations. Don't date smokers. Adds appeal to your profile as an expression of your will power.
"I like to go out and have fun with friends. I am not really big on the whole bar and club scene, but occasionally I'll have a drink or two with them." - cleaned up.
"I like watching and playing sports" - What kind? Elaborate, especially on the sports you play.
", and oh ya . . my kindness is definately my biggest weakness and it seems like everyone knows it and takes advantage of it" - let's change this.
"One of my greatest inner strengths is my boundless kindness". Doesn't that sound more appealing?
". . . well if you want to know anything else feel free to ask" - that is a weak close.
Princess, congratulations, you've found your Prince. Click on "Contact dscher" now and let's get to know each other better. - a more action-oriented close.
". . . and by the way, that is my nephew in my picture with me, no children yet for me" - remove kid from the picture. You will get more clicks, guaranteed. Since there won't be that picture for much longer, you'll delete this sentence altogether.
Happy fishing!
wiseleo
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Im a tid bit intimidated..
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12/9/2007 5:52:16 PM
Your thumbnail picture is nearly invisible. Black on dark blue backdrop doesn't work for main profile picture. If she can't see you in the sea of profiles, she won't click. You are not smiling. Your face needs to be more of a closeup. Think about it - which profiles do you click on? The ones with big smiles, right?
Your headline is clingy.
For your face picture, make it a square of 300x299 pixels. It should be lit bright but not overexposed.
"*MOST DEFINITELY NOT LOOKING FOR A ONE NIGHT STAND. OR ANYTHING OF THE SORTS.* looking for something that lasts a lifetime. " - clingy. Delete.
"Hmm lets see, im relatively shy at first sight, but even so i love heavy metal, watch anime, do a lot of stuff with computers, if im inspired i love taking pictures and writing poems but i need someone to inspire me for that, absolutely love to go out and spend time with friends. I'm a dirty blond, love to fool around and tinker with things." - fix your capitalization on I's, add apostrophe in I'm.
Edited:
"Hmm lets see, I'm relatively shy at first sight, but even so I love heavy metal, watch anime, and do a lot of stuff with computers. If I'm inspired, I love taking pictures and writing poems, but I need a muse like you to inspire me. I absolutely love to go out and spend time with friends. I'm a dirty blond who loves to fool around and tinker with things."
You need to realize that "fool around" has both positive and potentially negative meanings, including sexual ones as a synonim for foreplay. Are you sure you wish to use it in such an ambiguous way? It's not clear what you mean.
"-I enjoy helping others when they need it {DELETE , or sometimes bother them when they don't need help}." - that is again clingy.
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-I try not to judge people by how they act the first time around when i meet them, cuz you never know they might have had a bad day.
-And being a fairly shy person, its tough for me to meet new people.(The worst is the first conversation i just get too nervous)
-I'm looking for someone who i can have to hold.. hopefully forever.
-I am also supposedly a hopeless romantic, as some of my female friends have told me.
" - all that is clingy and insecure. Delete.
"+++If you need help with your computer feel free to contact me, I'm always up for a challenge.+++" - yep, that's always fun. Why not, keep it. :)
Overall, the impression I got from your profile was "Clingy, overly helpful computer nerd". Calling her a muse, which I think is what you were trying to express, would be a subtle compliment. Some women won't get it, but you are probably not looking for them.
You haven't expanded on any of your interests. I see skiing and rollerblading, for example. Both are highly visual sports that lend to excellent photoops on picturesque backgrounds.
You can do MUCH better than this. But you really need to stop being so clingy. I can sense jealousy and insecurity. There is a difference between being there for her and loving her deeply versus overwhelming presence.
The impression you may want to convey is "Smart, attractive, well-rounded computer science major who is not pasty faced from being in the room all day." Right now I see none of that. Describe your day out skiing, at a theme park, skating silently through eucaliptus groves (that smell is intoxicating), head banging at a metal concert.
I can see your potential, but it takes a lot of work and reading between the lines to get to that point. You have less than a second before she clicks back. They are fickle and picky fish. :)
Cheer up, put on a happy face, come out of your shell, and enjoy POF. :)
Happy fishing!
wiseleo
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The greater snowtemplepilot rave!
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12/9/2007 5:11:51 PM
Pictures - they are the same. Unless I am doing a 3-D mold of your head in a CNC machine, I don't see a point. The main pic is good and clear. Add a body shot in a natural setting. Your picture is getting rated a 5-average. I know you can do much better than that. Get over your inhibitions and ask a friend who is a skilled photographer to take a good one.
"Hello, just trying this out, lets see what happens. Fun right? I play and love music, I draw, and I sit in front of my computer waiting for the next person to give me that reason that will take me away. lol jk, doing this for more stuff. I am sensitive though, youll never know unless you try. ps. I know I forgot the apostraphie, waiting for you to notice!" - Boring? Yep, really, really boring.
Edited:
"Hello {DELETE , just trying this out, lets see what happens. Fun right?}
I play {ADD instrument name} and love {ADD specific styles of } music.
{DELETE I draw, and} You may be interested in seeing my album of drawings. {POST a picture of your work, if you are good}
I {DELETE sit in front of my computer waiting for the next person to give me that reason} {ADD am waiting patiently for that e-mail from you} that will take me away {ADD and out of my sleepy lifestyle hibernation}.
{DELETE lol jk, doing this for more stuff}. - placeholder
{DELETE I am sensitive though, youll never know unless you try.} - too lame
{DELETE P.S. I know I forgot the apostrophe, waiting for you to notice!} - not funny"
By the way, it's "apostrophe".
There is nothing in that profile that will make her take a second look. I don't know enough about you to make concrete suggestions. Please provide more information with examples so we can help you write something more coherent. I cleaned up existing entry, but it's absolutely empty, as you can clearly see.
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Input please
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12/9/2007 9:28:48 AM
The pictures are good.
The content is good. I don't see a reason to change it.
"must between" should be "must be between"
"quite evenings " should be "quiet evenings"
"time with my kids" should be "time with her kids" - you are writing from 3rd-person perspective.
Those are just a few minor corrections.
Given your musts, you probably receive quite a bit of mail from unqualified applicants.
Happy fishing!
wiseleo
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Looking for some help: profile review
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12/9/2007 9:22:10 AM
Excellent profile. Very enticing story.
Remove restrictions on relationship is all I can suggest to you. You won't attract wrong kind of women with this profile anyway. :) That's part of the reason why I have no restrictions on mine - I wrote a profile that will filter out most women due to my lifestyle preferences.
Minor nitpick - purusing is actually spelled perusing.
Happy fishing!
wiseleo
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Bored...humour me and review my profile or let me honestly know what you think
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12/9/2007 9:14:44 AM
Your main picture is great.
"That being said, I also learned life's lessons through the tough way, right in your face. I made all the mistakes and basically am tired of the old cat and mouse game, I want a woman to be straight up, say what's on her mind always. Nobody likes to guess." - Who cares? No matter what you want, you'll still be in the cat and mouse game, unintentionally. Delete.
"I enjoy my alone time, I respect anyone else's alone time as well, I am big on communication, it's a necessary building block and should not be taken lightly." - This line will upset many. Delete.
"Anyway, that's all I can think of at the moment, enjoy your read...ask whatever questions you may have." - in sales we call this a weak close. Morever, that is not enjoyable. You need a call to action like "If you agree that I am the best dam catch on this site, click that big "Contact" button now".
Here is your homework assignment. Ask your friend to describe you as if he were to set you up with another girl. Better yet, ask a girl. "Questions is a cool guy. He's is into blah blah blah... I think you should meet him because blah blah blah. Oh and he also is blah blah blah". That will give you more ideas of what to put in your profile.
Start with your major perhaps and why you chose it? That indicates your goals. Tell us if you are good at Guitar Hero and other Bemani games.
By the way, empathy does not make you a fun person to be around. Empathy implies that you care about others deeply and that you are sensitive, but it's not a comedic trait. So rewrite that sentence.
Happy fishing!
wiseleo
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Can somone review my profile please were am I going wrong ?
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12/9/2007 6:49:31 AM
And hopefully [to] find my soulmate. Missed that part. :)
Also, delete the sentence starting with "I've been single for a while" - no one cares and it smacks of desperation.
"Love doing" should be "love practicing"
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Can somone review my profile please were am I going wrong ?
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12/9/2007 6:46:33 AM
"I am looking for long-term love and hopefully find my soul mate I’ve been single quite a while now and I am ready to change my life I have everything in my life I need apart from a women I can love."
Edited:
"I am looking for long-term love and hopefully find my soul mate. I’ve been single quite a while now and I am ready to change my life. I have everything in my life I need except for a woman I can love." - not enough periods, woman, apart from should be except for.
"I’ve got varied interests from films to go for drink with friends and travelling I also love doing Thai-Boxing."
Edited:
"I’ve got varied interests from films to go for drink with friends and travelling. I also love doing Thai-Boxing." - not enough periods
"ideal women" should probably ideal woman, unless you are into polyamory.
"But also understands the importance of family & close friends.
But also someone who is talkative as I feel it can be quite romantic sharing a bottle of Wine or Vodka and chatting about anything and everything till the early hours of the morning."
Starting a sentence with "But" is bad form. Consider "She". I wouldn't mention vodka in a dating ad.
Edited:
"The ideal woman, hopefully you, is patient, caring, honest, faithful, but also affectionate and not afraid to express how she feels. Perhaps you would appreciate sharing a bottle of wine and talking about anything and everything until sunrise?" - the bit about friends and family is redundant as I doubt any woman worthy of your attention would admit being contrary to that statement.
"One other thing I would say is I’m not a clubber I enjoy fun nights out and just because I am not a clubber doesn’t mean I don't know how to enjoy life." - you've just eliminated all women who fancy going to a club. Was that truly your intent? If not, delete it.
Your picture is not ideal. It's gettting rated at or below 7 by your target categories. You can do better. :) A picture that won't get distorted is a square 300x299 pixels in size.
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be kind, I just changed/updated my profile please review
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12/9/2007 6:10:20 AM
I am going to argue with the "You chase" statement. Search results matter. You just need to login daily so your profile will show up at the top of search results.
A well-written profile will grab her attention. Yours is written well and in a very relaxed style. You may want to get a clearer main picture. The ideal size for it is 300x299 pixels. That way it will not be distorted. You know precisely what you want. I don't see a need for changes.
"your still here please drop me a line." - correct that to "you are". Decapitalize "Suit" to "suit".
Happy fishing!
wiseleo
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Some profile feedback please
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12/9/2007 4:43:28 AM
Offending rock music fans is not good ;-)
Get rid of dislikes. They are trivial and do not add appeal to your profile.
We don't need you to tell us you are new on the site. Delete that.
Overall, yours a simple profile devoid of any meaningful information. Describe why you can't get enough music. I am sure there is a hot story there.
Where are your skydiving pics? Where have you traveled and is there a memorable story from there? Where are your football pics? Action beats mugshots by a long stretch.
Your smiles are incomplete. It appears that you hate the camera. Try smiling and actually showing your teeth. I have a feeling that picture will look more fun. :) Your look in last picture appears to be most fun, but still incomplete. When you upload a picture, make sure the file is square. Optimal size is 300x299.
What the heck is "down to earth". To me that means boring and comes across as if you are a bit insecure. :)
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Please review me...
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12/9/2007 4:31:12 AM
OK...
Applying the standard rules of sales (After each paragraph ask yourself "So what?" or "Who cares?")...
"I've read through a few profiles and there are lots of people who seem very nice, but unfortunately I don't really have the confidence just yet to send anyone a message. If you have looked at my profile and you think we may get on, please feel free to send me a message and we'll take it from there." - Hell no!!! Delete this.
"I don't get the chance to meet people very often and I don't get out to bars and clubs much (also I can't stand dance music, so clubs are a double no!) so I thought I'd give this a try as I'm sure there must be other people who are in the same situation." - Who cares why you are here? You are here and that's what matters. Delete.
"{DELETE Hmmm... it's been a while since I went on a first date but as I remember, }Somewhere quiet is best - no point going somewhere we can't talk!"
"I don't mind travelling to meet someone but obviously someone who lives close to me would be preferable!" - belongs in About Me section.
"I'm self employed, the main bonus of which is that I don't have to get up early! I've played in various bands since the age of 15 but I've given that up as it became boring." - Self employed in which field? Which instrument did you play? Do you have pictures rocking out? Sounds lazy.
"{DELETE I've never been married and I don't have any children and preferably I'd like to meet someone who doesn't want to have children either. It's not that I don't like kids, I just don't want any of my own.} I don't have a definite idea about my ideal partner, but preferably she would be aged 20-40ish, be intelligent and fun to be with, not too extrovert and share some of my interests." - you already listed that you don't want children. Why do you want to explain that even more? That doesn't make your profile more attractive.
I can sense that you used to be very extroverted. What happened? Snap out of it. :)
Happy fishing! :)
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12/9/2007 3:51:23 AM
Your pictures are OK, but women are rating them in 5-6 range. That is not good enough to make them click. Try to make them more appealing. This one is a bit... hawkish.
Won't bother reading dislikes and neither will she.
Likes - each could be a mini-story, although the sheer amount of them will do the trick of making her read them. Paste them into "interests" box and summarize some in a short paragraph.
Your final paragraph has run-on sentences and should be two paragraphs. Your decision to disclose financial success is up to you.
Good luck :)
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i get plenty of views but...
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12/9/2007 3:19:24 AM
You are 6'3, yet you don't have any pictures highlighting that...Speaking as a tall guy, girls love it when we are the taller the better.
Your current main picture will elicit "cute", but that's about it.
That's one thing you can improve on. Take some hot pics with a big smile. :) Given your intelligence, surely you know how to work with the light. Think of it as an engineering problem.
There are some typos, so run your profile through spellchecker. :) I also see run-on sentences and incorrect punctuation.
Delete "I want someone to hold me, someone to listen to my problems". No one wants to listen to someone's problems voluntarily. We all do anyway, but I'd rather get paid for that. :) I know what you are trying to say, but those are wrong words. Delete "someone who wont use or abuse what I bring to the table" - unnecessary, and a turn off. Perhaps rephrase this "and I never do anything intentionally to hurt people I call friends" into "I cherish my friends"? Same meaning, far more positive.
You are saying that you are into D&D, which is code word for "stay away from *that* nerd" in some minds unless you are looking for a D&D playmate. :)
I rewrote your profile to be a bit more assertive and less fluffy/needy. It may or may not match your style, but it likely will get more nibbles. You may or may not want to keep your poem. It's a nice touch, in my opinion, and highlights your unique identity.
I see you may be into metal, emo lifestyle, punk etc. Your profile does not convey it. I chose not to speculate, nor am I too sure you'd want a punk or metalhead girl. :)
As I said, snap some hot pics doing things you love. I know you can do it. It's easy to test if the pic is hot enough - put it on POF to be rated. If you are scoring 10s, it's good. :)
Your headline is OK I think. It's humorous and from a song, which is good.
Happy fishing :)
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Hey! You! I noticed that you are checking me out. I am not just cute, but also a very nice guy who wants to hear from you. :)
When was the last time you went out with someone who actually listened to you? Really listened. My friends know me as someone who listens and offers objective and impartial advice. I truly cherish my friends.
As far as fun is concerned, you'll find me curled up with a good book, playing video games, and I actually am quite good at playing Dungeons and Dragons as well. Do you remember how to play it? :)
In my playlist you will find various music. In particular, I am very fond of Enya. My collection of music includes predominantly techno, but also other genres.
I am looking for a girl within 100 miles of Wright, WY who likes to cuddle by the fireplace during winter and chilly summer nights. Ideally, you should be close to my age.
I can't wait to meet you!
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Introduce Yourself Here.
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12/9/2007 12:55:02 AM
Hi everyone,
So without duplicating my profile :)
I decided to stop by Plenty Of Fish to see what other species exist in this sea of love. My interests are spelled out nicely in my profile. I live online, so your likelihood of reaching me very quickly is high.
It may take a while for me to find the right girl, but it's worth the search. I am a very patient person...
Those of you who write in your profile "tired of games" may find me a refreshingly different person. However, you may also decide that you do in fact secretly prefer when men play games with you after I tell you a few hard truths.
And now a few tips for those new to online dating.
0. Most importantly, please realize that you have an advantage while you are new. If you waste that advantage by not posting a picture immediately, you won't catch as many eyes immediately. New users are viwed more frequently.
1. Your picture is worth a lifetime to someone. An oversized smiling headshot works best.
2. This is unique to POF - their software resizes pictures very clumsily. If you wish for your picture not to be distorted when others view you in the sea of fish, crop your own picture to about 360x360 or 400x400 square. Only square images will show perfectly without distortion.
3. Clear images are more likely to be clicked.
4. Report those who tell you to go to other websites. Save the rest of us the headache. :modhammer:
Happy fishing!
Leo
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