Are Viruses Alive? chat & forums.

'I need to provide'... ...you know most graduates soon find out that universities don't spoon feed you information like they do at school.

Of course we should just try to get on with each other.

According to astrobiologists...a virus is life.

When researchers first discovered agents that behaved like bacteria but were much smaller and caused diseases such as rabies and foot-and-mouth disease, it became the general view that viruses were biologically "alive." However this perception changed in 1935 when the tobacco mosaic virus was crystallized and it was shown that the particles lacked the mechanisms necessary for metabolic function. Once it was established that viruses consist merely of DNA or RNA surrounded by a protein shell, it became the scientific view that they are more complex biochemical mechanisms than living organisms.

"Viruses exist in two distinct states. When not in contact with a host cell, the virus remains entirely dormant. During this time there are no internal biological activities occurring within the virus, and in essence the virus is no more than a static organic particle. In this simple, clearly non-living state viruses are referred to as 'virions'. Virions can remain in this dormant state for extended periods of time, waiting patiently to come into contact with the appropriate host. When the virion comes into contact with the appropriate host, it becomes active and is then referred to as a virus. It now displays properties typified by living organisms, such as reacting to its environment and directing its efforts toward self-replication". From The Bacteriophage T4 Virus

For the same reason this thread came about with disagreement's on a definition of 'life' and 'alive'

I disagree on your use of 'evolution', you see 4 billion years ago, a donkey was something like a virus, infact something a lot simpler. Again, you have also missed the point of what was being said, to go from something that resembles a virus, to a donkey, takes more than simple mutations...

Shortly after extinction events, the variation in life 'explodes'

do you just have a different gene mutations?

Even YOU accept this but still argue the toss...maybe it's because you're American and half my age.

Actually, Negative is good. Positive is bad.

That gives the circumcised male a GREAT deal of coronal ridge stimulation...meaning LOTS of pleasure. Circumcised males enjoy sex MORE THAN uncircumcised males.

For a woman looking for a sensitive man, an uncircumcised partner has one advantage: his penis will probably be more responsive because of the foreskin that covers its tip. Called a prepuce, the foreskin is removed in some males during circumcision. Over time, however, the circumcised penis loses some sensitivity as it rubs unprotected against a man's underwear all day. Does that bode badly for the love lives of men who were stripped of their foreskin?

Most of the men I have met who were against circumcision were either uncircumcised Jew hating neo Nazi SOBs, who objected to circumcison because 'those people' do it, or whining boys who rarely have sex, and spend their lives feeling they are missing some small degree of pleasure because they were circumcised as infants, and are thus missing a few millimeters of manliness.

Even with this information, the practice of unanesthetised neonatal circumcision continued. This allowed doctors to conduct experiments into the parameters of extreme pain during the 1980s and 1990's on human babies that would have been prohibited in laboratory animals.

All studies on the subject to date compare the pain experienced under anesthesia to the pain of unanesthetized circumcision. None compare the pain under anesthesia to the lack of pain experienced by the non-circumcised infant. In other words, they lacked a control group of children who were subjected to no surgery. This violates the scientific method and hurts children needlessly, because circumcision always causes some pain. No method of pain control for neonatal circumcision exists that is 100 percent effective. All circumcised infants suffer during the procedure and afterwards.

and it worked. Right?

Get some medical training before telling other people how to medically treat their family members who are not your family members.

It depends. If he lived in a part of the world where you NEED to take 3 body washes a day, then no. Otherwise, it could be OCD.

did your parents have YOU circumsize?

do you clean it each time you pee? do you pull back the skin and clean it...even if you're in a hurry or at work...i bet you don't

just think of all the gross things growing under that foreskin

are you willing to do that

did you know that it hurts many women to have sex with a man who isn't circumsize

Of course it's for medical reasons. Do you think OBGyns are have penis fetishes? Good grief. No wonder your family is pissed.

Of course it's a tradition - FOR HEALTH REASONS.

Basically, what your friend does with his son is none of your business.

Next time you speak to god, ask him/her about the appendix or tonsils.

I personally am against marking, cutting or piercing of ANY kind on children !!!!

you are right, I do not understand your science because it is wrong, it goes against Gods True Science....

my 17 yrs old has never had a med in her life, I thank God for that

100 mutations of a virus = a virus

followed by 4 billion years of mutations let me guess...yep still a virus.

Viral evolution is a subfield of evolutionary biology that is specifically concerned with the evolution of viruses. Many viruses, in particular RNA viruses, have short generation times and relatively high mutation rates (on the order of one point mutation or more per genome per round of replication for RNA viruses). This elevated mutation rate, when combined with natural selection, allows viruses to quickly adapt to changes in their host environment.

let me guess again...you're American.

.. the same people who think vaccines are cures?? are they schooled in the same instititions where they teach Drs to cut out tonsils because they are overworked??.. do they have anything to do with isolating the HIV ~ virus~ or of the poisoning of our mylen tissue with drugs, drugs and more drugs??.... I will pass on those qualifications.... blessings

You can have all the education in the world ........but without God you will
never gain True knowledge!

If one feels threatened by anothers' belief to the point of resorting
to put downs .......maybe they need to take at look in a mirror
and begin to examine the insecurity and lack of confidence within themselves
that cause them to have the need to attempt to knock others???

were following the instructions and example of their parents.

Everyone had the choice to get on that darn boat.

Whatever parent or parents does not show an example
of morality and the love and words and teachings of Jesus to their children
they expose them to the same fate as 'noahs ark'

the parents of thosechildren yes are to blame.......As they are today...........

Why should any child be denied to know the love and beauty of Jesus and
the Glory of his kingdom

he does not infringe on man/womans free will

next.........orleans is not the whole world.

God gave so much to the people............What has the people given to God?????

their wrongs will go unnoticed?

Gods mercy is there for anyone who desires it........free will!!!!

Your posts are rather juvenille to say the least........who are you trying to offend.
or do you often feel offended yourself??????
'people often attack what they fear'

maybe just your uneducated guess's????

Smarts PhD / Post Doctoral

and yes it was because of the sins of man/woman that brought Gods'
hand of destruction on the world.

Even him felt bad at what he did God claimed He would never flood the world again[

You had mentioned I made God out to be an angry God.......that is rather
manipulating don't ya think

If you care to pursue the issue of the love and mercy of God

but to blaspheme and use riducule such as socialist...what have you;

In May 2007 Jenny McCarthy announced that Evan was not a “Crystal Child” after all, but had been diagnosed with autism (there is a possibility that he may have been misdiagnosed). She holds on to the mistaken belief that Evan’s alleged autism was caused by his receiving childhood vaccines. Most anti-vaccination believers claim that the compound thimerosal led to an increase in autism cases. The Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine is their usual target. However, thimerosal was never used as a preservative in the Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine. All vaccines licensed since 1999, with the exception of a few multidose container vaccines (such as some, but not all, HIB and Influenza vaccines), have not contained thimerosal as a preservative. Autism has not declined since 1999, thereby disproving this connection. In addition, Jenny McCarthy's child, Evan, was not born until 2002, well after thimerosal had been removed from most childhood vaccines. This has led Jenny McCarthy, and others, to claim that it was the MMR vaccine itself that caused autism or that it was vaccines in general that caused autism. All of these ideas have been disproven in multiple scientific and legal examinations of the evidence.

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So you really are serious about astrology?

Speaking authoritatively, as someone trained in mathematics, we know that complex numbers do NOT exist. Complex numbers are numbers that contain an IMAGINARY part, a part that is truly imagined, and has no representation in the real world, not in any dimension.

The theory that we should only consider those things that we have found evidence for, is called empiricism, often called British empricism, because that is where most of the concepts were developed. It was conclusively proved false in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Taking one example to be a generalised truth for all situations is a logical fallacy.

By the same argument, in order to say that the universe runs according to the complex number system required by quantum mechanics, you must first prove that complex numbers exist. There has yet to be anyone who has found a complex numbe in our reality.

That philosophy is called British Empiricism, because it comes from Britain. We Brits invented it, and we Brits proved it wrong, almost 100 years ago. Science learns. It learned that empiricism was wrong.