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 Author Thread: Human trafficking / sex slaves
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 14 (view)
 
Human trafficking / sex slaves
Posted: 11/22/2009 5:49:06 PM
My understanding is that many or most of the victims are eastern european and asian women...........who live in awful situations and are desperate to find a way out!...and many already know that they will probably end up being prostituted.

I guess its not impossible for some N. american women to be taken in.....but i wud think they'd have to be very gullible or dimwitted not to see this coming!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 115 (view)
 
Detroit Lions=Worst Football Franchise Ever
Posted: 11/22/2009 5:22:22 PM

Was that a by-product of a bad Browns team or is this a hint of the future for the Lions?


neither!...this was just a game between two weak teams, and the Lions got the better breaks and came out on top!....not saying they didn't deserve it, but that game cudda gone either way.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1639 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/22/2009 1:33:27 PM
Gmen squeak by in OT.......a must win if they wanted to keep any playoff hopes!...but D is still worrisome as they blew 14 pt. lead in the 4th.

Hope they can build on this!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1635 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/22/2009 6:42:06 AM

And all this is manufactured out of


...our Plant here in NY, very close to the MA border....your demand for our gum has helped put 100's of pple back to work!.....to show our appreciation, we are now working on a rectal chewing paste for you guys.......in those urgent moments, you will be able to peel off the foil and insert a stick into your rectum to hold you over until your 'he-she' can take over!


It's your's to DISCOVER


The moment is lost, pal.....you've been there (and done that) well before anyone has!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1633 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/21/2009 11:32:59 AM

.Maybe you should try the gum instead?


Nope, the law says that we must send all our used condoms to MA, !....once used, they are pressed, dried and cut into strips and individually wrapped in foil..... all for your oral enjoyment, so when you blow yourself a bubble!...you can think of us here in NY.


GOVERNMENT WARNING: According to the Surgeon General, quitting your he-she now can greatly be serious risks to your health. Butt be honest to yourself. You're just going to want one ten times as bad next week.


pal, this only applies to the residents of MA...but since you are banned from entering any other state, i could understand why you'd think it applies elsewhere!...live & learn!


going to want one ten times as bad next week.


and henceforth the dildos, Pal.....you can use them to your heart's (or azz's) desire!


So YOU have taken my offer?


No pal.....i keep telling you, here in NY the anus is an exit,.... not an entrance!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 26 (view)
 
Is the WWE High on Crack?
Posted: 11/21/2009 4:51:41 AM
@OP

What pple are entertained by is a personal matter.....i certainly wouldn't buy PPV to watch wrestlemania, but i'm not gonna judge anyone who wishes to do so.

You'd rather spend your money on porn...and if you think that isn't choreographed or faked then you need a reality check..........but hey, if thats what rocks your boat good for you!

As far as sports go.....its all a form of entertainment also......i know of pple who wouldn't spend a dime to watch over-paid, under performing athletes, and i can't say i blame them!

to each his own.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1791 (view)
 
New England Patriots 2007-2008
Posted: 11/20/2009 11:04:34 PM

HEY WIZ! wass up dude! You still on Pof huh, cool,


Hey kebro...don't worry..the Wiz is still here....his rates have dropped and he will "love you, for long time".......yes, now you'll get a bigger "BANG" for your buck!...and if you are coming from outta town, i hear that he'll pay for your accommodations!


what happened to The Giant's fans ?


we are still around man,.....remember, you'll end up feeling what you don't see....just carry a mirror with you and look for the wet spot in crack of your azz....trust me, this what the Wiz has been doing, since the Gmen won the 08 SB!



What's up Krylon (Kebro)?!?! Welcome back!!!


Hey pal....got yourself a winner here!.....i'm happy for the both of you!




Then we got Sum1(reel)Lypsinka....He TRULY talks out of his a$$.


...and what better expert can we have on aSS-anomics, than the Wiz....he knows azzes like no other.....a true expert in his domain of gASS production...piping his product all over MA!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1631 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/20/2009 10:29:58 PM

It's better late than never, right?


no pal, not when your 'he-she' is...... enjoying riding you to the max!


you were waiting for


you to get to climax!...but your he-she got tired of humping you after the 3rd straight day, that he (it) collapsed from pure exhaustion....hence, your craving for dildos!


Why go searching?


because its like finding buried treasure....you see, back in July all we could see was flaming turds flying outta yankee stadium, right into the East river.....and when it was all over, all we saw was Bsx players as thin as tooth-picks.......we then knew that ALL the SCHIT had been kicked right outta them!!!!.......these Bsx turds were the only remnants of this great yankee victory, which makes for great fertilizer!


Giant fans don't lie


You are Right, and we don't cheat either!.....we won our SB fair and square!.....and didn't have to 'spy' to get an advantage!


bend over!


sorry pal....i don't open that route...for me its an exit, not an entrance.......i know it comes as shock to you, but as i said many times......your requests can best be met by the "good" pple (he-shees) of MA!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 12 (view)
 
Hand of God!!!
Posted: 11/20/2009 9:55:41 PM

Do you think Ireland should get a replay after Irelands defeat?


If Mr. Blatter was a "straight & stand-up" guy....he would definitely have called the results of this match null and void.......the evidence for this is clear and blaring!

But since Blatter is a low-down maggot of a man, and FIFA is as corrupt as it comes....i doubt anything will be done....so much for the FIFA policy of 'honesty & fair play'...it should be changed to: "cheating will be rewarded if you don't get caught"

This is the kinda thing that beckons the use of either: instant replay, or use of a dedicated "goal" referee (1 situated behind each of the 2 nets)............to make sure this BS doesn't ever happen again.

In a fox news report, T Henry has admitted what he did was wrong, and mentioned that a re-match would be the fairest way to resolve it.....He seems to be sincere about it, as he does NOT have a reputation of cheating......But, this comes in the aftermath of FIFA's decision not to replay the game!

This kinda thing has given soccer a proverbial "black-eye" on a world stage.....any fair-minded fan must demand change!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1629 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/20/2009 8:43:23 PM

If you consider deep sea diving a hobby at East River searching for crabs better, and with no luck. Then all power to you, at least you get a chance to swallow seamen.


Hmmmm, lets see........i posted on the 17th and it took you what,.... 3 full days to for your come-back...so i bet you were a busy beaver!....I'm glad that i occupy so much of your time so as to give your life some meaning, Pal!!!!! ......But hey,(coming outta the mouth of the cheapest fan-hore in MA), i realize such precious 1 liners as "swallow seamen" musta just FLOWED out of you ever so naturally!!!


But, yeah i do go diving in the East river, Pal....rite offa Yankee Stadium....i go searching for remnants of the famous Bsx manure...you know, the very same schitt that they got KICKED outta them in month of July, when they got swept by the Yanks 4 STRAIGHT...to secure us the 1st place spot!...you might remember that, Pal!.....i hear the manure is a great soil fertilizer, there is none better, but it stinks to high-hell so we cover it up with the tattered Bsx uniforms that we often fish out.......its amazing how they contain the smell...its like they were made for it!



You don't have to lie to the folks on POF


we don't lie, there are laws on our books which bar the kinda perversion you have going on in MA


Well, maybe I guess


....and guessing is all you've been doing Pal....maybe you should re-enroll into grade school to learn the fundamentals of readin' & writin'......it shouldn't be that difficult, just look at what you've done to solve the gASS shortage for the "great" state of MA!.....i'm sure they'll be happy to "stick you in"


GO FALCONS!!!!


^ another prime example of a what a "cheap-lay" you really are..for the hope of seeing the Gmen ( who btich-slapped the unbeaten Pastries 17-14 in the o8 SB) lose a game which has no bearing for you....TRULY pathetic of you!......but we'll make sure you NEVER forget
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@scoobie



That's funny. I just forwarded that to five friends.


hey, i bet those are the same 5 friends that you've forwarded all the dildos that we sent you!...I'm glad to see that you are re-cycling them...make sure that each 1 of them sends them to 5 friends also, (that is.....when they are done using them!).
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 286 (view)
 
Chelsea football club !
Posted: 11/19/2009 6:09:37 PM

the kick was just too dangerous to be ignored by the ref!


man, you don't get it!.......drogba has made a career of diving and cheating....so when he gets struck like that, real or not......most refs are gonna think he's pulling another stunt...so i'm not surprised that the ref ignored it, and i don't blame him 1 bit!

speaking of cheating.....i guess its official that Henry has become the "new" Maradona!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 283 (view)
 
Chelsea football club !
Posted: 11/19/2009 6:04:51 AM

how on earth did evans get away with what i would call chest breaking kick on drogba?


its by way of justice!...........as drogba is one of the biggest sneaks/divers in the world today!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1621 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/17/2009 6:11:12 PM

At least I come with a price,


good for you pal, you gotta make a living somehow......maybe if you issue 2 for 1 coupons you'd drum up more business!


you it's weekend hobby at the Strip


sure as hell better than your hobby............ in dunking your azz in the river Charles as a disinfectant.


But not as more disgusting than your he-she


....we don't have those in NY, same sex unions are illegal...we shipped them all out to MA, where they belong!


parts of him/her are excellent


and surely, you would know......but hey, i'm happy for you anyway.....i hope you feast on his (its) every part.....i'll even send you a bottle of honey-mustard sauce to hopefully enhance his (its) flavor!


Yup, you sure illustrated it in a football thread.


yep, its what most literate pple are able to do......to go from 1 case example to another, as a versatile way to express a point or idea........even kids in special-Ed are able to do this!...and had you not flunked out of your elementary reading class you'd have learned it too, Pal!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1615 (view)
 
NEW YORK GIANTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:37:03 PM
The way i see it, they need to win at least 5 of these ^ games....to get a solid chance for the playoffs.

if they can get focused and geared, they'll have some reasonable chance of beating the Falx, C0cboys, bEagles, the Skins, and the Pantees!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 4 (view)
 
UFC HW Champion Brock Lesnar Seriously ill and In Hospital
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:32:20 PM
he shoulda stayed in the WWE....even with all the roids....he woulda been much healthier!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1612 (view)
 
NEW YORK GIANTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/16/2009 4:19:53 PM
seems weasel wussington is a Vanna White impersonator in drag


Probably what his most significant 'he-she' wants him to be dressed up as!.....
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1608 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/16/2009 9:06:46 AM

What team did I switch? My team is any team that goes against any New York team....So phucking what you twit?


you answered your own question,... you dip!........you bend over like a $2 hore to any such team that plays NY......knowing quite well that such a team would wanna beat any Boston/NE teams JUST AS MUCH!.......its disgustingly pathetic when a sports fan cares more about a rival team losing than his own team winning!



This is a football thread. How typical for New Yorker to always refer back to some other sport.


I'm just trying to illustrate my point in talking about MLB....the fact that this is a football thread is immaterial, you ignoramus!



I agreed with everything except for the "but NOT because they don't have the ability to win..." part.


If you had any decent reading & comprehension skills....you'd see that my whole theme was about how they DO HAVE the ability to WIN, yet they are not winning due to "psychological " issues.....................so if you agree with everything i wrote then, you'll have to agree with whole assessment!....you Donk!

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@ earth Donk



No, I didn't congratulate the Yankees, they don't deserve a congratulation, because after a while it gets boring the way they win the WS.


Keep eating those sour grapes pal.....mash them up real good and sprinkle some vinegar in them.....its called Carolina Champagne!!!!!!.............and BTW, we don't need your "nice job" remarks either...you could stuff it where the sun don't shine, Pal!..."next year"??....you say.....Great, Pal....then we'll have another solid pitcher in the rotation!



If the Giants could, they would have by now got Brady/Peyton (one of them as back up), Moss, Vin Jackson, Andre Johnson, (receiver), Bush, Johnson, Benson, (rush), Harrison, Phillips, etc (defence). Just like the NY Yankees do to get their championships.


^ this truly shows what an ignorant doofus you are: First of all, Steinbrenner doesn't own the Gmen, or the Jets.......secondly, let me show you a list of the richest NFL owners (from endzone.com)

1. P allen--->Seattle (16 Billion)by far.... 11th reichest man in the US..Microsoft
2. Ross/huizenga----> Dolphins (7 bil combined)
3. Glazer----> TB (2.5 Bil)
4. Kroenke---->Hams (2.2Bil) owns 40%
5.Lerner------->Clowns (1.6 Bil)
6. Blank-------->Falcons(1.5 Bil)
7. Jones-------->C0cboys(1.5 Bil)
8. McNair------>Toxins (1.5 bil)
9. Kraft-------->Pastries (1.4 Bil)
10. Bisciotti--->Ravens(1.3bil)

So as you see.............the Gmen owners/Jets come no where near the top 10 richest owners, so when you say (like the moron you are) that the NY teams would be buying up all the talent.......try doing some research before you spew your worthless gibberish!

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@Broncs


but if your a redsox fans who complain the yankees "bought" there championship, then you should take back your 2004 championship....


couldn't said it better myself!!!!!.
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@wuss


The Red Sox payroll was at $125 million in 2004. Almost the same as this year of $122 million....Not much comparison. However, it is nothing compared to $201 million of the Yankees.


Again, another of your MANY asinine remarks!.......there is nothing preventing the Bsx from spending what the Yanks spent!...Henry has the money, Bsx team makes TONS of money!...the fact that they spent less was to their credit!....the REAL FACT at hand is that the Bsx used the SAME means that the Yanks did to "buy" a championship in 2004...they just spent less for it!....and again, i give them credit for it, they were much smarter about it.......BUT, they used the same method, and they could have spent as much as they wanted!!!.....so don't make it sound like the Bsx had a spending cap..they don't!...............and don't make it sound like all their players are home-grown talent!...they are NOT!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1588 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/14/2009 8:28:50 PM

Sum1 and JaB are both off the bandwagon....When their team wins? Holy CRAP!!! They won't shut the phuck the up, but when they lose?


...and what bandwagon am i off???......you sour-grape eating dipstik!!!.......yeah, the Gmen have been sucking, don't you think we know!.....but that doesn't mean we're not pulling for them when they play!........at least i don't go around switching allegiances when the home town team goes south, like you do!.

As far as not hearing a "Peep"....how much of a "peep" were you and that other Donk (earthling) making when the Bsx fell outta radar range?.......i saw nothing but cheap regurgitated sour-grapes coming outta both your mouths.

yeah the Gmen lost their game, but NOT because they don't have the ability to win...its because they are stuck in a mental "quick-sand" of their own making!!!!!....and if they don't find a way out, it can sink their season.

Gmen need to start playing like they did in 07....as though nothing is expected of them; as though they have nothing to lose; as though nobody has them under a microscope........if i was coughlin, this is what i would be preaching to them over and over in the next 2 weeks.....there is no other choice!....its the only way for them to get their 'mojo' back!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 10 (view)
 
Hockey-Changing the shoot-out.
Posted: 11/13/2009 6:59:27 AM

Bettman knows he can **stardize the sport however he wants and us real fans will continue watching. We'll b1tch and moan, but he won't lose us.


^ and this is the truth!.........Bettman knows his audience....but not everyone will be "taken in"..........the NHL lost me as a fan(and many others as well) in the late 80's early 90's when it all became obvious.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 145 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/13/2009 6:19:07 AM

again since football is the most pop. sport. well atleast you know more then every one else,


all i know is what the FACTS are cause i took the time to look back on it......if you (and others) wanna keep believing in fairy tales, i guess that is your business!


your soultion for the mlb is to get rid of teams


no, my solution is to reward owners/teams who care about putting out a good product for the fans to see.........and to de-mote teams whose owners don't wanna do anything to improve performance!............its no different than what happens in everyday life!


no one is talking about getting rid of there teams,


its not about getting rid of teams, you didn't understanding what i'm talking about......its about creating incentives for lower teams to get better


feel sorry for those fans of those teams you want to get rid of.


i actually feel sorry for the fans who keep supporting teams...... whose owners don't give a schitt about their own fans.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 94 (view)
 
Detroit Lions=Worst Football Franchise Ever
Posted: 11/12/2009 8:01:12 PM
@marsh


It defied logic that the Detroit Lions in 2007 were 6-2 at the halfway point....to this day, I cannot explain it...I remember telling my friends, the Lions had to be the absolute worst 6-2 team in the history of the NFL.


and this is,...... what is called the : Illusion of Parity.....it happens far more than you think and in most instances it is not as obvious as it was with the Lion's 07 team record.
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@steel


I just hope the lion fans finally get to see their team do well. I kind of know how it feels being a pirate fan. We are pretty much in the same boat in terms of bad seasons year after year after year


But you also know that reason why the Pirates stink are far different than the reason why the Lions stink!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 143 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/12/2009 7:43:22 PM

so the nfl is only number one because of marketing, well people need to like the product that is being markted.


Pple don't always need to like the product....they NEED to BE SOLD on the product!...look at the state of american football before the 2 leagues merged...it was 3rd rate behind baseball and basketball....then came the merger, and behold the great spectacle called the Super-bowl, winners of 2 former leagues locking horns to win the great trophy to become the TRUE WORLD'S BEST!....and it snow-balled from there...from that point on the NFL smartly built on their initial success by creating glitz & hype over more glitz & hype to the point where the sporting public was hypnotized...the NFL made sure that there would be no competing leagues...........................Another example of good marketing is the WWE (formerly WWF) wrestling,...wrestling always existed in the US, but was a cheesy spectacle up until Vince McMahon started his marketing drive to expand it...it was do or die!...He created the spectacle called WRESTLEMANIA...wrestling's version of the superbowl!!!!!....where hype and glitz became as important as the spectacle!...as a result the WWE became a giant MONEY MAKING MACHINE and Mcmahon became a mega-rich corp.... as the NFL has!...But lets look at the reality of it...when the 2 leagues merged what really Happened??????...answer: Nothing----it was now the same 2 leagues playing the same kinda football in a different context, thats all!.........the same goes for wrestling, it was the same old tricks with different gimmicks!..that all!.....BUT THE PUBLIC WAS SOLD...on both spectacles!



the fact is the more cities u have with a chance for the playoffs late in the year means the bigger the fan base, oh wait well i guess that happens because of the parity that the nfl has, and like u said the salary cap causes parity, so i guess it is because of the cap.


that right!!!...and its all part of the marketing strategy!!!.......the NFL strategy says: get as many teams to look as competitive as possible so the fans can expect them to challenge for a playoff spot, this gives them reason to create the hype needed to draw fan interest!!!!........in order to do that the NFL need to put the emphasis on Parity, and the best tool to do that is: SALARY CAPS... .if you can't see this then i don't know what else to say except that....... you have been had!!


but are u telling me that the nfl doesnt have the best football players in the world?


man what are you talking about?.....the US is the ONLY country that (american/NFL) football players come from!!!.....they are the best by default, cause there is nobody else to compare them to!


look i get it we are just going to disagree on the cap thing, u think its about management more then the money, but yet u dont want the choices the management makes to cost the team, where i like the nfl because the managment is hold accountable for there choices in the sense that the teams has to pay, now to me thats more about the management then money.


No, i don't want the BAD choices the management made to "cost" the team success....WHY is that?...its because if i'm an NFL team-OWNER, and my management sucks...I can fire the GM (and his crew), but the NEW manager that I hire can't do squat to help the team cause of the limitations set on spending....so unless i cut players and eat contracts, there is nothing i can do... and this does not happen too often!.........In MLB, however, I can fire a GM who did a schitty job and put in a new man who might have a better chance of turning the team around.....so what i had said still stands, in the end you still need good management for true success....money is the vehicle to help you gain that success if spent wisely!



its just odd that your soultion to mang. making bad choices is to spend more money and then turn around and say its about management and not money, its just odd.


its not odd at all!!....see the above explanation.......the way a team "pays" for its bad choices is to have to lay out more money to corrects its past screw-ups!.....this is what happens in life all the time!!!....so why should it be different in pro-sports!
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@ Raph


I actually kind of agree with the notion of getting rid of some of the cellar dwelling teams but not for the purposes of freeing up any talent. More for the fact that it seems pointless to have teams in the league that seem to have no interest in really contending year in and year out. It's one thing to go through a rough spot, but you've got teams like the Pirates that haven't been good in 20 years. And it's not like they haven't had some good players come through their system either. They just get rid of all of them. They're becoming a farm team for other teams.


This is a GOOD point!....and the way you deal with it is by having a 2 TIER league...much like you see in many european soccer leagues.......the last 2 teams that come in dead-last (in MLB) should be relegated into the 2nd Tier league, come the following year....and the top 2 teams from the 2nd Tier league get PROMOTED into the main MLB league!.

By doing this we will prevent cheap stingy greedy owners of teams like the A's, Padres, Marlins, pirates from making a mockery outta MLB........they will be forced to stay outta the cellar to keep their teams from dropping into the lower Tier....so you'll have a double competition in MLB.....1) for the division pennant and 2) to keep from being Demoted!!!
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@denny


so the only way to level the feild is a cap, so a select handfull of team cant just outspend the other. now that would mean the players would make less but atleast the super stars would be more evenly spread out


Man, you are so hypnotized by salary caps and that it is scary!!!!.......i tried my best to show you the issues but you don't see the light....i'm kinda sorry for you!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 139 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/12/2009 9:46:09 AM

ok back to the cap thing, u say that the d-backs didnt have a big payroll, well they where 8th in baseball but they where 3rd in the nl, so they did spend more then 80% of there league. also the difference between them and the highest payroll in the n.l. was just 2 mil.


2 million?.....so then it proves that it is more management than spending that makes a team successful.


the bottomline is that the yankees dont outsmart any team they just out spend them, my point is still its not the management its the money.


you have contradicted yourself over and over by your own examples.....the yanks have been outspending teams by wide margins and they've come up short most of the time..........so out spending doesn't buy championships, its been proven....if that were true then the top NFL spending teams would be considered favarotes for the SB!


i never said that money buys u championship on a reg. basis, but what it does is make every other team that cant spend that type of money weaker.


not true...how does it make wealthy owners like the Twins weaker....they could spend way more if they wanted to regardless of what the Yanks do......this might affect teams with low budgets if they lose a player by free- agency, but that is usually becuase they are not intersted in keeping big money players...look at pittsburgh pirates!...they've been dead last (and happy) in their division and still thrive.


and this talk of parity, u dont make sense, u speak of the nfl as if its just a bunch of ok players and thats why its full of parity, they are great players thats why they are in the nfl,


read well!...i've never said anything about the players themselves, although anybody could look good in comparison to a whole bunch of players who are mediocre.....it becomes easy for a RB/QB to rush/pass for many yards if the opposing defenses are relatively weak...but what i mainly mean by parity is that the talent is more widely disperse in the NFL, by way of salary caps.....which doesn't necessarily translate into higher quality....its just an NFL shell game!



the nfl talent level is just as high as the mlb level.


you are dead wrong here...talent in MLB comes from all over the world...we can be sure that MLB has nearly the best talent available!


you keep saying they " craft parity" look the yanks won 103 games and royals lost 103 games( i dont think those numbers are, but u get my point) ok so u will always have teams at the ends of the sprecturm, the same way the colts can go 13-3 and the browns go 3-13, u have this every sport, so if u take out the best and the worst teams, u are left with whats in the middle and in both sports its a bunch of avg. teams.


then what the hell is the ultimate point to having a salary cap?.....i already explained to you that there were more WS winners in the past 20 yrs then there were SB winners...you wanna give more breaks to cheap-skate owners?...whats the point if they still mismanage the team, .....they'll still come in last or do poorly!


football has parity because it has leveled the playing feild, the mlb has parity because the playing feild is not level.


What???...the whole point to trying to level the field is to get parity...in the NFL, its done artificially.....in MLB, you don't have articial parity, because free market forces are in effect...in some division you have "natural" parity such as we see in the ALE, as there has been close contests between the Yanks, Bsx, and BJ's.


i just always wonder how much better the avg teams would be if they could sign big name free agents, or better yet if they could just keep there own stars and not be outbid by the same 4 or 5 teams that can afford to spend what ever they want.


well go look at the SF giants...no body outbid them when they signed Barry Zito...as far as teams keeping their own stars, well why don't you ask the management of the A's and pirates why they let all their young talent go free.


sure sometime in football u will b out bid, but it wont be because they have a limitless payroll. maybe iam wrong maybe iam not, but then again the nfl is the most popular sport these days, maybe they did get it right.


NFL is popular because of marketing tools, not because of salary caps.



last point, u said"a cap would serve to further conceal teams with poor management" u rwrong a cap exposes poor mangament, just stay with the colts/browns theme, the colts payroll this year is
$111,295,962( and this includes harrison, so it may be lower) and the browns payroll is $119,946,192 and they suck, again this is why drafting is so important and it also shows that the choices that the gm's make a direct effect on the team, thats the point of the cap to level the playing feild, if u make alot of bad choices it will effect ur team,


bad choices are made by management, but salary caps can trap such teams into a state of failure for a long time...yet there are many teams who know how to work the system better and manage to stay competative because they've made the salary cap work in their favor....teams who've made bad decisons suffer the most and have less opportunities to get back up whereas in MLB, a team can start spending more to acquire better players and if they make smart acquisitions they can get back up!


in the nfl u cant make bad choices and just spend more money to get rid of the problems.


exactly, which is why in MLB...the bad teams are the ones in which the owners don wanna spend much, whereas in NFL....if you've made bad choices in the past, the "system" penalizes you even further!!!!!!.....and you can't correct this even if you changed the management to more competent people...why would they wanna join a team that they can't do much to help!
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In short, i fee l salary caps are an unnatural way to contain costs....i feel the free-market method is always superior...the only problem with MLB, is that they should penalize cheap owners for not putting their profits back into the team!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 136 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/10/2009 11:38:01 PM

no i dont think its that easy but thats what seperates the good teams from the not good teams.


In salary capped sports, the ability to draft well is what separates the top-notch teams from the outright awful teams.......the midrange teams are the ones that get the most benefit in that they can pick-up the overflow that would help or maintain their mid-table standings.....which is what the NFL ultimately wants....parity!!!


about the heisman, its a college award not a nfl award, so if u pick a player based on hype and not how that player fits there system then that team is making a big mistake, again the difference between a good org and a not so good org.


the HT is used as a benchmark of high achievement for college QB's and the top candidates have usually been selected high in the draft....if you wanna call that a form of hype, i'd agree but its what most experts go by!.....i don't make the standards!


if it makes u fell better to say they are lucky then so be it,just keep this in mind the colts have 3 high round drafts picks out right now ( gonzalez, sanders, and jackson) but yet they are 8-0, what a lucky team i guess.


teams that don't usually get high draft picks have to use other means of getting top picks...and that is what i'm talking about when i say that the management makes a difference..it isn't often easy to trade one of your aging but most accomplished players in order to have better leverage in the draft, but some teams are better at it than others....... its a way of unloading some of their highest paid players in order to stay well within the cap...........and this isn't something that most teams can do well, ....many teams use this as a way of balancing their payroll books, a few teams however have not only used to balance their books but to actually siphon talent from lesser teams in exchange for aging players.......its basically a shell game in which you have a few true beneficiaries.


u asked why should a team have to relinquish a player when the cap has been reached, thats the point of a cap, its forces teams to handle the way they spend money and who they give it to,


correct, it forces a team to give up someone who, (in the absence of a cap) they would probably have kept if they could.....so that player must be doled out to some other team whose cap is smaller...but not necessarily a weaker team!!!!...so you have a sitituation where (at best) 1 of your top players may have to leave to a lesser team, or at worst, when that player is picked up by a superior team....this is a good example of player- stacking if there ever was one!!!!


if a team spends alot of money on a first rround player and he is a bust, it puts the team behind the 8ball you are right, again thats what seperates good teams from not so good teams.


this can happen whether or not you have a cap...but since a draftee can go bust in anybody's hands, i'd say its more a matter of bad luck than anything else!



look i understand the fact that as a yankees fan you dont want a cap, i think we both know that the yankees g.m is the most overrated in all of sports, i mean the guy spends more then anybody else but yet has only won 1 championship is the last 9 or 10 years,


which is more proof that spending doesn't consistently buy championships therefore why the need for a cap?


just imagine if he could only spend 100mil a year or 120 mil a year, the yanks would be just a avg. team, that goes to show that they are not that well ran as a org.


not so, if the yanks were limited to this much, most of the other teams would reduce spending even more cause if not they would lose out big time on penalty money, revenue shares.....lesser teams would have a helluva more to lose than the Yanks if a cap were put in place.........which is why MOST owners don't want caps!.........Yanks wouldn't be avg., they'd still be the ones offering the best pay in a contracted market!.....you are making the false assumption that if MLB, would cap spending at 120 Mil,...all of a sudden more teams would be on the same level but in reality, you'd see the pattern as you have now just on a lesser scale!


what iam saying is the money the yanks spend keeps other teams from being able to get star free agents.


this is pure BS!!!!....you talk as if the Yanks strong arm all other teams...they don't!...do you know who the richest owners in MLB are?...its not the Yanks, try the Twins and the Tigers' owners, and these owners can spend every little bit (if not more) than the yanks can!...and there are others on par with the yanks.......no one prevents a team from going after players, the yanks do it cause they want to do it...and they don't intimidate anyone else either.



right in the aspect that u are dealing with a sport that has a cap, its the management that matters the most. the knicks and the clippers spend alot of money on the wrong players, thats why they stink. but ur point doesnt really make alot of sense because nobody spends about what the yankees spend therefore in there case its about the money not the management.


Correctly picking top free agents takes just as much ability as it does to get top draft picks!....you admitted yourself that the knicks and clippers have high payrolls but little to show for it..............the yanks have had the highest payroll since 2000 to 2009 and have only won 2 WS.........so regardless if you have a cap or not, its still the management that makes the difference!.....in the NBA, for teams like the knicks, clippers..it would be very difficult to reverse their luck because of the ceiling that keeps them locked in...the only way for them to break out is "eat" all (or some) of the bad contracts. the knicks have had a history of doing just that!...there many ex-knicks playing for other teams that still get part of their salary from MSG (knicks owners).....so in this case, all a salary cap is doing is: a)preventing teams of higher means to break out of their rut, b) continue being a source of corporate welfare to other mostly lower teams...which in turn produces:A} the illusion of parity thru mediocrity: B} lack of motivation for owners of so-called avg teams!


i see it the other way, if u put a cap in baseball that would shed light on poor management as well.


you are wrong, a cap would serve to further conceal teams with poor management as they will get the windfall benefit of getting the kind of players that they would not ordinarily pursue (or hold on to)....in order to uplift the team at or near a .500 performance,( which is something they'd never see if they were forced to get a player at the free-market value)....this is the strategy often used to "craft' parity!


also i dont know this to b true but if u go back and look at those baseball teams that have won the w.s. over that time spand i would think alot of them where in the top % of payroll, for example the back to back years the bluejays won they had the top payroll, so again its the money not the management


wrong again, cause neither the D-backs or the marlins had anywhere near the highest payroll when they won...and i'm just naming 2 teams!.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1548 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/8/2009 10:35:44 PM
The problem with the Gmen is clearly psychological....there is no way that they should have lost that game even after leading 14-10, under normal circumstances.......i think there is something going on (that is affecting morale) that the public isn't being made privy to.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 133 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/8/2009 10:26:30 PM

how about drafting better, theres a idea


and you think that is so easy?........Its not so easy for most teams to put together a technical staff sharp enuff to pick out all the promising players...the Colts and even the pats have had good luck in the draft, but it is still a crap-shoot!...how many heisman QB's make it big in the NFL?.........and even if you get a group of good players you still have to end up paying top money in salary...and that is where the head hits the ceiling...why should teams be forced to relinquish a player cause the cap limit was reached?


when a team from the largest city in america is in what do u think will happen?

well, i didn't know that Indianapolis was 1 of the largest cities in the US...that must explain the big rating that the colts get, right!...........how large a city is has little to do with a team's individual success....look at the Braves of the 90's when TedTurner owned them...he made them into a money making machine...a team from a middle market city that drew high rating everywhere they went.....and with what payroll????


to b honest i dont care what the ratings are, i dont work for the network that carried the w.s. so i didnt beneifit and unless u work for them i fail to see how it help u either.

ratings = $$$, for the sponsors, the network, and the cities involved.......when you have a team that creates interest/following, you create a cash flow for your team....and if the owners are smart, they'll put most of the money back into the team.


take the spurs for example, great team right? well there ratings where not good when they went on there run of championships, so does that mean there not a good team?

see above explanation


to me a .500 team is avg, the nfl has more avg/or above teams then mlb, so how is that a crafted illusion? you say the yanks draw fans at other ballparks, well so do the steelers and they have a cap. last thing about the ratings, the nfl has outstanding ratings with a cap, oh wait i guess thats because every nfl fan is brainwashed.


you are getting confused........let me say this, in the PAST 20 YEARS, there have been 14 different teams winning the WS in MLB....In 20 yrs, the NBA only had 8 different teams.......and The NFL, has had 10 different teams win the SB..even if you adjust it by percentage of teams, the ratio is still better for MLB......the NBA & NFL have salary caps, and in general, the top half (in both sports) are still the same teams, and the bottom 1/2 are still the ones that haven't won anything.....In short, the salary caps hasn't LEVELED ANYTHING...it is the crafting of parity that produces that illusion!!!!.....The Lakers and the Clippers have had nearly the same payroll, but the Lakers were always the winners and the Clippers always stunk, and they are both in the same market!!!!...why is that???......It is the management is MAKES THE DIFFERENCE, not the payroll......the salary cap forces a distribution of talent, thus the reason for a higher number of mediocre teams (playing at about .500) which has served as a shield for poor management...thus if you were to lift the salary cap, the first thing you'd expose is how BAD the management/ownership is in many of these middle of the road teams!!!!....therefore, a salary cap will only break what doesn't need to be fixed.....A team like the Pirates is a good example on how bad the ownership is...in a town like Pittsbugh, which is a great sports market, the pirates have sucked for 20yrs or so...with a salary cap in place, they will still suck cause its their management letting all their top young Drafts go (J Bay, Damaso Marte, etc) because they don't wanna pay them.




if bledsoe doesnt get hurt there may not be a tom brady today, again it goes back to drafting well,i know this doesnt happen alot but it does happen and there have been other teams that have done well


being able to draft well is an art not easily mastered by all...see above explanations!
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At Bronc

If the yankees have a first round draft pick that is a bust, its not a big deal cause they can just go out in free agency and remedy the problem.


not necessarily true.........the Yanks have made many free agent acquisitions to fill gaps and most have not panned out as planned.........it is just as difficult to pick the right free agent than it is to pick the right draftee................even other teams,look at SF, paying Barry Zito all that money, and he didn't measure up!


I blame baseball and the owners who claim they are "broke". IM a rockies fan, and there is no reason why the Monforts can go out and spend money like the yankees. Im not saying 200 million, cause the YES network is a cash cow. The rockies could be the phillies, about 110-130 million just to compete every year.


Right!....the owners are far from broke....look at teams like the Pirates and Padres.......why would an owner stay in a business where he's losing that much money for 20+ yrs?...a Salary cap will NOT force owners to spend their revenues!


It doesnt take a genious to go out and sign sabaithia and tex.


Believe me, it isn't as easy as it looks...if it was that easy the Yanks would be winning the WS nearly every year!!!!........the uncertainties are bigger when you go after established free agents then it is with rookies.....and the risks are greater, because there is more money at stake.........a rookie's future is brighter, he can only get better with time, not always the case with a veteran!............there is an 'art' to going after free agents, almost as much as it is with drafting!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2131 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/8/2009 9:23:50 PM
@ Earth


$200 million a year payroll (that's only players) and there was no WS championship trophy for 9 years.
That makes $1.8 billion, with a B, spent without a WS championship.


And by making this statement, YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT!...that just spending money DOES NOT buy championships!.........on 1 hand you've been crying and whining about how the Yanks spend their way to the top.......and on the other hand you now say that their huge payroll hasn't won them squat in 9 yrs!!!!........congratulations, you just put your D!CK IN YOUR OWN MOUTH, Pal!........................enjoy!


Had the Yankees lost this years championship, they could have asked the government for bail out money.


the Feds could only wish they could make/generate money as well as the Yanks!



If Sum1 was my cousin, I would have barred him from all family gatherings at my house.


...........and the pleasure would be ALL MINE................Pal!

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The Wuss


Almost like when the Yankees picked up ARod and got nothing for 9 years.


Performance isn't the point here...you Donk!.......the issue was about how you said (incorrectly) the Bsx payroll remained constant, despite buying players like Ds-K, and Drew.



But then again you speak for Red Sox fans that you claim would spit face?


I speak for "common-sense"...........i can't see fenway park being sold-out every game to a bunch of fans who would be at ease with a 2nd or 3rd place finish.........But then again, I may not fully understand the boston-mindset.....Living in NY, us fans have higher expectations for our baseball teams!


We play a tough division where a team likes to spend crazy money, so how else are we suppose to compete.


How else you ask?....why don't you look at how the Pastriots built their success!.....a) wise draft picking. b)good trading. c)good coaching. d)nice playing conditions..........As you see, even your buddy, mr. Earth has acknowledged that spending crazy money sure as hell don't assure a team of winning........does it!
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you don't see any Philadelphia fans here bad mouthing anyone here


No, you are just BELLY ACHING about how the Yanks 'bought' the WS......well then I guess thats how the Phils won the WS last yr right!...they had a bigger payroll than the rays!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2125 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/7/2009 12:28:08 PM

I heard yesterday that it's not likely that the Yankees will go after any big ticket free agents.


Don't believe it!........Yanks need a solid starter in their rotation, that is where they are hurting the most right now!.......Lackey is gonna file for free-agency, and I can see John Lackey in Pinstrips next year!...if the Yanks don't get him, i'd bet he'll end up with the Bsx!


they are probably not going to sign both Matsui and Damon.


thats gonna be a tuff one to call!....both are dangerous hitters, and clutch players..Matsui's knees are pretty far gone, and can't play the outfield much....Damon doesn't have the best throwing arm, but his legs can still move for a guy his age................But the reason why 1 of these men will be let go is because they are gonna need the money for a high profile pitcher!


Mariano Rivera stated he would like to play five more years.


the best dam closer in MLB, and future HOF'er.....there few who have the kind of control and accuracy that he does!.......if he stays well i see him playing for at least another 3 yrs!


The AL Central has been busy already.


there alot of parity in this division so i'm not surprised to see these teams trying to get an edge.......anything can happen in that division come next year!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2122 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/7/2009 6:55:02 AM
heard that the Phils just re-signed Cliff Lee....that was fast!....and smart, doing it in the middle of the Yank's celebration, and didn't give the Yanks time to make a move on him!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 129 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/7/2009 6:50:34 AM

look at the nfl, i know that people say that has parity, and it does, but to me that a level playing feild, also just topoint out the fact the nfl has a higher % of teams with a .500 record or better then mlb does


its amazing that some pple are so brainwashed into thinking that the NFL has a more perfect system...but i credit the NFL wizards for pulling off 1 of the biggest illusions in pro-sports!
The reality is that salary cap system is deeply flawed!....look at the Lions, Chiefs, Browns (to name a few)...these teams are at cap limits...and look at their records,now how can Detroit hope to make any major improvements?....they'd have to wait for players contracts to expire (or eat them)...even the Gmen, who spent a great deal of money on Eli's new contract, what would happen if he got hurt and couldn't play?...thy'd have to rely on the 2nd stringer, or eventually they'd need to get rid of another big name player to balance their account...and this is what the hallmark of the NFL game is about....playing a salary "shell" game!...its a BS system which was made to create parity, teams at or over .500 is nothing but a crafted illusion, much like any socialist system was made to create a 1 class society.

look at the TV rating and you'll see that this WS was the most watched since the 2004 Bsx..the reason is that the Yanks were in it!......this draws both Yankee lovers and Yankee haters alike!....as good as the Phils were (and they are a dam good team) nobody gives a dead rats azz about them (except their own fans)...the proof is in last years playoffs when the played the rays in 1 of the lowest rated WS on record!

The REAL remedy to improve competition in MLB is for the owners to start spending the luxury tax money (they receive every year form the top 5 teams) on QUALITY players instead of buying themselves another yacht!!!! or another mansion in their game of 1 upsmanship!.....the fact is that the Steins care highly about having a good quality team on the field.....they didn't have to go and spend money to get AJ, CC, Tex, they could have just as well (minus the playoffs)financially...but they want quality!

Thats why when the Yanks go to visiting ball parks, they draw a full crowd (wait till next season and you'll see!) whether to cheer them or boo them!!!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2120 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/7/2009 6:26:01 AM
Anybody catch the the Yanks VICTORY parade?.........it was awesome....approx 3 million showed up (unofficial)......incredible!!!!!!!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 123 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/5/2009 11:42:01 PM
****************************WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS***************************

Yanks, WS champs of 2009

We are the champions
No time for (sore) losers,
for WE are the Champions..........of the World!

We now take our bows, and curtain calls,
As we lift the WS trophy up high,
we thank you all!

Its been no bed of roses,
no pleasure cruise
We fought hard and rose back up,
and we didn't lose!



How bout them Yanks!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2117 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/5/2009 11:19:29 PM

The Red Sox have stayed consistent with their payroll.


Oh, i'm sure it stayed real consistent when they went out and 'bought' Diasuke, right....and JD Drew (a real catch!)




the Yankees, they went out and bought their championship


You know what, (my sour-grape eating) Pal...if the Yanks bought it, they legitimately paid for it.......unlike the NE pats who 'Stole' the SB, by underhanded-ness!



As a Red Sox fan, which I probably speak for most of us. We truly don't care that we didn't win the WS....It would have been nice, but it doesn't even matter.


First of all!....you speak for nobody but yourself, as most TRUE Bsx fans would SPIT right in your face for saying "we don't care that we didn't win the WS" <-----this is the mother of all your brain-farts, Btw!!!!............................and after being ahead in the ALE for 2-3 months, i guess the Bsx didn't care to win the ALE, either!!!...Is that why we dusted them 4 straight games to secure 1st place, back in July, right!.......This is a perfect example as to why you are such a complete Donk!........Not only do you lay brain-fart after brain-fart, but you insult pple's intelligence in the process!....Go eat some more sour grapes!


We are done with baseball for this year and have moved on to football.


Then WTF are you doing here?...other than having oral diarrhea, spewing out your mindless gibberish!


We got our rings not once, but twice. That's all we ever wanted


yeah, thats all YOU ever wanted, yeah rite.....i'm sure the 3 stooges fully concur (henry, werner, luchino) with you....they could care less if they don't get another WS for another 80 yrs....thats why they are in the top 5 teams with the highest payroll!......Btw, keep those brain-farts comin' Pal.....it brings out your best side!


So enjoy your 27th championship


We will Pal......and you'll be able to see it, just tune in on tomorrow's ticker-tape parade in NYC.
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Mark Teixeira and CC Sabathia maybe? I liked Tex when he was on the Rangers. And I've always liked CC. But I sort of look at both of those guys as turning heel like pro-wrestlers now that they're on the Yankees.


there is no-where else that these players would rather be than in Pinstripes!


The Phillies were not playing like champions for a lot of the series. They weren't playing with any heart. They seemed to be playing like Cole Hamels felt; like they were just ready to go home and call it a season. The intensity that they had last year against the Rays just wasn't there.


The phillies ran into a 'brick-wall' called the Yankees......Like C. Manuel said; "The Yanks stayed 1 step in front of us, on all counts...they did what we couldn't do!"....if the D-Rays were anywhere near as good as this years' Yanks, they would have beaten the Phillies themselves in 08!
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@ Earth-ding/dong


Question was not how good the NY Donkeys were, the question is how bad the Phillies were.


If the Phillies were that bad, then how much worse are the Bsx???????...at least the Phils were able to win 1 game in NY!.....we beat the living schit outta the Bsx, 4 straight in July!
You spew your oral diarrhea about Andy pettite, not realizing how cool he was under pressure and doing it in the clutch!.........The Bsx would sign him in an instant if they could!


Whatever happened to Pedro? The Pedro Martinez we used to know.


Pedro left cause he didn't feel it was worth his while to stay in your schit-hole town, much like Boggs, Clemens and Damon...and besides, he got his ring so he could care less.


what happens if you leave Red Sox for 'mo money'


You eventually end up winning the WS...like Boggs, Clemens and Damon did!


The best thing Pedro has done in his entire life was when he knocked down to the ground a fat old guy from Yankee management during a brawls between Yankees and red sox a few years back. That scene is priceless, I'll never forget that.


And if this is the "best" thing you Bsx fans can cherish of Pedro...then it further PROVES my notion that you all are a bunch of pathetic reprobates!!!!



POF has a bunch of losers.


Of course you know that you are indicting yourself as well!...(as you've been long part of the POF scene)


The losers have nothing else to do in their life but waste their times with other peoples profiles.


Congratulations, for coming to a full realization of what you've been doing all this time on POF, pal!


losers will do what losers do the best.


And who would know that better than you, Pal!


During my hiatus from pof,


I tend to think you got kicked off!



I drove to Boston from carolinas and on my way I literally pissed on NYC. Yes, I stopped in NYC to piss.


And when I drove from Maine back to NY...........I literally wouldn't even piss on the BEST part of Massachussets!

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--------------------------WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS........OF THE WORLD!--------------
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2106 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:29:35 AM

baseball needs to put a cap on the money, its just outta hand that a team can spend that much more then anybody else


Many of the owners are not in favor of it.....the lesser teams like it the way it is, as they are making money off the revenues, but they are not putting it back into their teams.


they should look at the nfl as there model.


the NFL has produced mediocrity through the illusion of parity.....i don't wanna see that in MLB!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 116 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/5/2009 7:15:41 AM

So how is that going to work?


hopefully, not the same way its been working for you....by channeling all your azz-gass into your brain cells, and in doing that you've taken:... double talk, and hypocrisy up to new heights!

***************************WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS****************************
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2102 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/5/2009 6:46:41 AM

you did it


We know, Pal....we know........and i'm glad to see you are getting into the spirit of it....Who's your Daddy?


You paid for it, more like a quarter billion of it.


Keep eating those sour grapes Pal........Yeah, like the Bsx didn't go out and sign most of the players who were responsible for winning the WS in 04, right?......You hypocrite!

If your team's management is STUPID enuff to let some of your better players leave and not replace them with more effective performers, then its their own fault.

ASK NOT, what the Yanks have done to improve their team........But rather, ASK what your team's management is doing to improve its team!!!!

You spend nothing!.....you get nothing, you Donk!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1523 (view)
 
NEW YORK GAINTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/4/2009 11:01:34 PM


NY YANKS 2009 WS CHAMPS!!!
No. 27

 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2098 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/4/2009 10:34:15 PM
**********************WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS MY FRIEND!*********************



NY YANKEES.....2009 WS Champs!
Number 27!
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Well deserved MVP......to "Godzilla" Matsui.......Hats off to the clutch players like; A-Rod, Johnny D, Jeeter........and a shout out to Andy pettite, for a helluva job!.....the Bull-pen, and last but not least to the best dam closer in MLB....Mo-man Rivera

Congrats to the Phillies as well...a solid team, they proved their 2008 WS was no fluke!
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You guys can kiss my a$$


No Pal!......you will be kissing our azzes!......because we've EARNED our BRAGGING RIGHTS!..........so get on all 4's .......and tell me how it tastes!
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Whooooooo- Haaaah!...................HOW ABOUT THEM YANKS!

NYC will be having the WS victory parade in the canyon of heroes this Friday the 6th......everyone is welcomed!!!!.......drop what you are doing!...leave your job, play hooky, leave your girlfriend (boyfriend)...jump on a plane (or train)...COME ON OVER!.............and show the Yanks some LOVE!!!!!!... the big apple will be 1 big party machine!!!!!

 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 111 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/4/2009 9:56:24 PM
**********************WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS MY FRIENDS!********************



NY YANKEES 2009 WS Champs!
Numba 27!!



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You know, understanding what you write can make you a better reader..


Sure, Pal........i'll keep that in mind!


And being a better reader will help your retention process.[/sure]

Of course, Pal!........


I'm sorry if my "come-backs" hurt your feelings


...Its okay, Pal.....i forgive you, us New Yorkers have big hearts!...
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 6 (view)
 
How would a post MLB World series, WORLDS SERIES be/sound like??
Posted: 11/3/2009 8:32:04 PM

I am talking about individual city teams from around the world being involved in this.


it would be a great thing to see, but it would extend an already long baseball season!....after playing 164 games plus playoffs, most of the players would not have the energy to start another tournament.........but it would be a great thing to see the MLB (WS) champs playing other Baseball league Champs from other countries in a World tournament...but the problem is that most of the World's best baseball players are all playing in MLB teams!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 108 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/3/2009 8:03:18 PM

My true colors?


Yes indeed Pal!!!....its your TRUE colors;.. which are..... green, greener, and greenest!!!...(and various other shades therein).



take my word for it


......there is nothing more Pathetic than for you to constantly take CHEAP SHOTS at other posters (in your 'lame' come-backs at me) in order to make up for your FEEBLE mental capabilities......you are a small, low-down man, Wiz!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2090 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/3/2009 7:36:02 PM
AJ Burnett's DISMAL efforts sunk the Yanks last nite!!!!!!.......what he did in 2 innings could not be overcome, even by the explosive Yank offense....and although we closed the gap by 2 runs (8 to 6)......we were too deep in the hole by the top of the 9th....had he pitched a half-decent game....the Yanks woulda won last nite's game on sheer offensive thrust!....after the game was over, i was still in disbelief that AJ was so horrible!....

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@Earth(worm)ling

So i see that you've crawled outta your hole......and the first thing you do is to call me out!


I thought I would stay away from POF for a while


...Yeah right!.....you closed your account (or did someone close it for you!.. ) as you were SHAMED into abject embarrasment!!!!!


his NY Donkeys are in WS and about to win it.


The Yanks are in the WS because they DESERVE TO BE THERE thru hard hard work!!!......and that GIVE us fans the RIGHT to crow about it!!!!!


But he forgets that it's s WS between $208 million versus $111 million.


For how many years have the Yanks had the highest payroll in MLB?....and of all those years, how many times have they won the WS?.......if having the top team payroll was directly proportional to winning the WS, they'd be winning it EVERY YEAR...you ignorant Donk!!!!


Donkey's not winning the WS this year is as unnatural as Donald Trump dating a 60 year old woman.


Funny....but that is NOT what you (and your Butt buddy, the Wiz) were saying in the 1st half of this season.....when the Bsx were ahead in the standings........you then had the Yanks dead and buried by the end of June, in spite of their team payroll.....didn't you, you pathetic hypocrite!!!!!!!!


Only this year.


Only this year?????.... .......i think you've lost your mind Pal.....if the Yanks win it this year, it will be No. 27!!!!............maybe you should go back to the sanitarium for another 2 months, cause it seems that they didn't put you on enuff medications!!!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 106 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/2/2009 11:15:32 AM

How about if I sh!t my sour grapes down your throat


Boy, those sour grapes (& mule piss) really do the job, don't they!....brings out your true colors,.....a bitter, jealous little dildo of a man!!!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 103 (view)
 
Problem With The Yankees?
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:16:16 AM

they bought another championship


^......a good example of pure ignorance, at its finest!!!!...........maybe you should wash down your sour grapes with a tall glass of stale mule-piss.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1494 (view)
 
NEW YuK GAINTS fans that speak fart language....
Posted: 11/1/2009 11:36:21 PM

And who's "most of us"


"most of us" is those of us, who have insight and common sense!


Anyway, I was right when I said YANKEE SUCKS!!!


............don't eat too many of those cheap sour grapes, Pal.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1491 (view)
 
NEW YORK GIANTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/1/2009 11:03:00 PM


Here is a quote from the Wiz from a post he made back on 4/26....when the Bsx were ahead in the ALE standings!


I hope the Yankees fall on their faces. Just to show money can't buy championships....

YANKEES SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!


Most of us already know that money doesn't buy championships, pal...................But we also know that low down dirty tricks & cheating can certainly get you some championships, eh Pal!

 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1489 (view)
 
NEW YORK GIANTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/1/2009 10:43:56 PM

As much as you do.


Then based on the known Facts, he cheated!....what else he may have done has not been made privy to the public.


It doesn't even matter what anything you have said because none of it has any central part to what the league has done.


What the league does is to protect its best interests...the NFL has determined that it would be in its best interest to minimize it, and dispose of it as quickly as possible.


The league acknowledges that other teams were also involved


merely a ploy to disperse the full brunt away from the NE team.... being the 'teacher's pets' does have its privileges!


They also acknowledge that recording signals did not compromise the game,


...well, what else could they possibly say?.....anyone who believes that has gotta be as gullible as they come!


One time wonders


Its all good, Pal......at least we can hold our heads up high knowing that we didn't cheat or steal the SB championship!......we won it fair and square!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 2073 (view)
 
This Week In Baseball
Posted: 11/1/2009 10:01:48 PM


Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How bout them Yanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent game by Johnny D & A-rod..........clutch performances by both men!
Just when it seemed like the Phils were gonna take the game...then, POW the yanks come up big...and kick'em where it hurts!!!!

Big hits by jeets and Posada as well.......God bless the Mo-man!!!
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 1455 (view)
 
NEW YORK GIANTS 2009-2010
Posted: 11/1/2009 9:10:25 AM

Recording signals really doesn't give you the upper hand.


Oh of course not!.... ....i guess he was doing just to keep from getting bored!


And it's not like Belichick flipped every rock to cheat


...and how the hell would you know?, you think he'd volunteer to tell about all that he was doing!


The difference between Belichick and everyone else that was doing it was that he got caught for it.


No, you donk!....the difference is that he was probably doing way more than what everybody else was doing....which is why he got caught!...its called greed!


This is only believed by the eye's of New Yorkers...


...yeah, and everybody else is blind!...


And why is it that the Patriots are still good? It's a clear indication that the Patriots video taping had nothing to do with their success.


I never said that they were NOT good, you ignorant Donk!...what i'm saying is that all this was done to get an unfair edge!....and in the hands of a good team, that is all they needed to get over the top!...if you had any insight whatsoever, you'd see it!.....for you to say that the taping had nothing to do in aiding their success is about as foolishly ignorant as anyone could get!....is Bettacheat stupid enuff to do something risky that isn't gonna help his team???.....Duuuuh!


If Belichick was recording signals? Who do you think he learned that from? That's right PAL!!! Parcell.


From him to say that he got it from parcells is just hear-say from a bitter man!...and even if he did, its very likely that Bettacheat exploited it more and took it to another level..greed feeds on itself!


I can't wait for the tell all book when Belichick retires.


Yeah sure!!!.. if you are gullible enuff in having him jerk you off to believing whatever he wants his fans to believe.....then yeah, knock yourself out....pal!...make it your Bible!


Being the supervisor of sh!t sludge


At least i'm the supervisor....and you are stuck with the task of sucking it in!!!!!


.How dumb are you?


certainly not dumb enuff to believe Bettacheat's lies!


Go phuck yourself!!!


Yep, vintage Wiz at his best!.......poor in wit = rich in profanity.....
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
Msg: 5 (view)
 
Help, NY Yankee Fans!! Cano for Beltrán?
Posted: 10/31/2009 11:04:02 PM
Beltran!...no way!

Yanks don't need him!......their needs will be better met if they use the money to get another starter in the pitching rotation!

I hear that Lackey (the angels) will be a free agent soon!
 
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